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DA lays charge over ANC Facebook post

2011-05-05 16:12

Johannesburg - A charge has been laid against an African National Congress ward councillor candidate over a Facebook post, the Democratic Alliance said on Thursday.

"DA Councillor Alison van der Molen laid charges this morning at the Jeppe Police Station against Mr Keith Peacock, the ANC candidate for Ward 66...," spokesperson Jack Bloom said in a statement.

Peacock had posted a comment on Facebook under the alias "Councillor Keith", Bloom said.

He said that this was "unethical" and in contravention of the municipal electoral act because Peacock was knowingly making a false statement as he was not a councillor.

This was punishable by "a fine or ... imprisonment for a period not exceeding five years", according to the act.

"The ANC needs to repudiate Mr Peacock's unethical conduct," Bloom said.

Responding on Facebook, Peacock said: "It is always sad when people lose their sense of humour, but it ... often happens around election time."

Comments
  • Currie_Mafia - 2011-05-05 16:20

    CONciller Keith....hmmm, they taught you well, didn't they ?

      SaintBruce - 2011-05-07 23:51

      Misrepresentation of a title , post or appointment in a public forum is a serious offense. In the Corporate world this would be a dismissable offense. Think about trying to impersonate a police office - it is a criminal offense and the electoral act calls what Mr Peacock did an offense. Anyone nominated as a candidate for a Ward should know the electoral act and therefore this cannot be 'spun' into a joke. Sorry ANC your underhand tactics are being shouted from the rooftops again!

  • Gabba - 2011-05-05 16:22

    and another slap on the wrist for ANC! He will is making a mockery of the electoral process and makes a light hearted statement like "It is always sad when people lose their sense of humour" I'm surprised that someone of his supposed stature is making jokes about something so serious...

  • Eidel - 2011-05-05 16:24

    Hi Councillor Keith. Seems to be a joke to be a councillor or am I getting it wrong

  • Point Blank - 2011-05-05 16:30

    Wishful thinking, people are entitled to it.

  • Snys - 2011-05-05 16:33

    Councillor Pee Cock...false statements sounds like desperate people!

  • goyougoodthing - 2011-05-05 16:33

    This is where I disagree with the DA on how they approach things. Look at the bigger picture first, this kind of pettiness, no matter how valid in a working democracy, will only divide people. Fight the important stuff and stop making mountains where there are molehills.

      Rover_ZA - 2011-05-05 17:10

      I was gonna comment but I don't think it could be said any better.

      moiraine - 2011-05-05 18:14

      Exactly.

      World Traveler - 2011-05-06 16:44

      You vote anc? I bet!

      Cynical Sci - 2011-05-06 16:55

      Why not do it all correctly while at it, otherwise one needs to go back and fix it. Strikes me as being inefficient. Why knock them for ensuring that things are done correctly

      Philip Darne - 2011-05-13 12:25

      Agreed

  • CharlieSheen - 2011-05-05 16:36

    People, if it was such a pissy thing to do, and if nothing should have come from it, why is it illegal????? Would you walk into a store, steal something and then when caught, blame people for not having a sense of humor?

      The_Bird - 2011-05-06 09:34

      When the DA says 'Mr Peacock further acknowledges that he is not the councellor of Ward 66' how can he then be accused of 'knowingly giving false information' (from the Act). The one logically excludes the other. Furthermore the provision in the Act only applies to 'when required in terms of this Act to make a statement'. A facebook electoral campaigning page does not fall under a required statement made required by the Act, therefore the provision is surely inapplicable?

      schmerz - 2011-05-06 13:06

      @The_bird, ok so i can say whatever i want whenever i want and then justify it later by saying it was untrue? unless i am being asked to say something? "When the DA says 'Mr Peacock further acknowledges that he is not the councellor of Ward 66' how can he then be accused of 'knowingly giving false information'" - because that is exactly what he did. It does not logically exclude the other, unless you are impaired. If he acknowledges that he is not the councillor but tells people he is the councillor then wtf else is he doing, how is that not knowingly giving false information Yeah, and im singing this from a cloud (im a flying newt btw, unless you ask me later of course)

      World Traveler - 2011-05-06 16:45

      Just about as pissy as the toilet saga! anc are pissy people.

      Cynical Sci - 2011-05-06 16:59

      @The_Bird: The logic applies because the calling himself Councilor Kieth is in itself a statement, while his acknowledgement was a subsequent and separate statements. I think the DA is only going after the 1st statement.

      Tess - 2011-05-07 09:52

      At no point was Keith purporting to be a councellor. The facebook page is not him pretending to be a councellor it is his electoral campaign page. That fact is exceptionally obvious if any of you had visited the page. That is why people are saying the DA is engaging with petty politics - because THEY ARE! @Shmerz He did not knowingly give false information. He is openly in the public interface running for counsellor in the ward. "Knowingly giving false information" means that you are telling people you are a counsellor when you are in fact not. The statement quoted by the DA is evidence that he is not telling people he is a counsellor when he in fact is not. That is why the one logically excludes the other. You must be impaired to not understand that. His facebook page name 'counsellor keith' is a play on words, alliteration etc if you look at the page it is an electioneering campaign he is not pretending to be a counsellor. That is why Keith says the DA has lost its sense of humour not because he is not taking the job seriously because they are engaging in preschool type petty politics.

      gksa - 2011-05-07 19:42

      @Tess So if Helen Zille campaigned the next elections as "President Zille" that would be all right, wouldn't it? 'Cos it's just a play on words, right? Can we have that in writing? All these figures of speech are confusing, sjoe. Gotta keep in mind to to take the ANC figuratively and the DA literally... Remember, everyone: when the ANC says "We will crack down on corruption and non-performance"... it's just a play on words. Just like "Heaven" and "Dubul'ibhunu". And "Councillor Keith".

  • DeonL - 2011-05-05 16:39

    This is no laughing matter Mr. P unlike your surname.

  • Brakkies - 2011-05-05 16:40

    am i missing something? he responded by saying "people lose their sense of humor" but WTF did he actually say that brought the complaint on?

      Brakkies - 2011-05-05 16:42

      ok sorry it now, FFS storm in a teacup.......

      King Shaka@24.com - 2011-05-05 16:43

      He called himself a councillor online.

      Bob - 2011-05-06 10:56

      Called himself 'Councillor keith' online - like 'Bob the Builder" - get it? not exactly a crime!!!

  • kevin - 2011-05-05 16:48

    I find this petty stuff so pathetic, the da must be really desperate. So cause he called himself counsilor online he is taken to court, well I'm a reptillian, now take me to court pls.

      Gallows - 2011-05-05 16:56

      I think you misspelt "invertibrate", and the fact that you are should be punishment enough. Besides, you aren't impersonating an office of "respect and dignity"(lol).

      Old Man - 2011-05-05 18:58

      Gallows: you are the pot calling the kettle black! It's actually spelt "invertebrate".

      AllHoliday - 2011-05-08 12:39

      Did you read the article?? There is a law against it, just as there is a law agains impersonating certain other professions, i.e. plolice officer, medical docter etc. Their is however no law agains you calling yourselve an idiot!!

      ebdg3000 - 2011-05-09 07:50

      But Old man, is that PC, old boy? Sounds racist to me ... :)

  • windsurfer - 2011-05-05 16:58

    i think Allison van der Molen should be charged with treason for failing to disclose to the people her complete lack of a sense of humuor

      Emsmum - 2011-05-05 17:07

      Didn't realise a sense of humour was a legal requirement...I rather thought we enjoyed the right to find life as amusing or dreary as we so chose, so long as we exercised that right within the constraints of the law???

  • windsurfer - 2011-05-05 17:00

    iI think Alison Van der Molen should be charged with treason for failing to inform the general public of her complete lack of a sense of humuor.

  • Waarheid - 2011-05-05 17:03

    keeping an eye on everything hey DA, well done, keep them dancing!

  • Kikmi - 2011-05-05 17:13

    And I just got this new PS3 game Mortal Kombat, they so should have totally put in all these okes so they can just bliksem one another and get it done with. Can some one say FATALITY lololol PS: The above statement includes sarcasm and humour Careful now...

  • Mark - 2011-05-05 17:13

    The DA always has a "holier than thou" approach, they scorn others but cover up for their own. Remember when Tony Leon & Douglas Gibson accepted diplomatic posts, it was fine then. When their councillors in the Western Cape were guilty of offences they simply wiped it under the carpet and when their KZN leader was involved with another women they simply and quietly moved him to Cape Town. Ha ha ha ha - Different strokes for different folks

      Coin - 2011-05-05 21:15

      "When their councillors in the Western Cape were guilty of offences they simply wiped it under the carpet" - erm? No... They were fired on the spot. "Remember when Tony Leon & Douglas Gibson accepted diplomatic posts, it was fine then." - Who cares? It didn't put my life in any danger or cost me my job and livelihood. "When their KZN leader was involved with another women they simply and quietly moved him to Cape Town." Are you jealous? At least he didn't impregnate her several times over, only to leave her with no maintenance plan...

  • windsurfer - 2011-05-05 17:21

    Keith has often given my councilling when I got despondent that i have not caught any fish after a days fishing at the vaal. He will always be my "councillor keith"

  • Rover_ZA - 2011-05-05 17:26

    The DA entering a tit-for-tat with the ANC can only lower their reputation. As the DA is a political, not judicial, institution, they should be selective in the fights they pass and those they take up. Whether it is illegal or not is not the question as the DA could have passed this on to another organisation to deal with, without bringing it to the media as a fight they have taken up. What the issue here is, is how the DA will appear to the voters they are trying to swing. If I were on the fence, I wouldn't be particularly impressed by this pettiness. Had they passed it on to a partner, that partner could have ensured the legality of the situation was addressed.

  • Keith - 2011-05-05 17:44

    The community also calls me "Bob the Builder" and no one seems too upset about that, least of all the Bobs of this world" said Keith Peacock. "I was called "Popinjay Peacock" by a DA supporter, on Facebook, which I thought was quite a clever insult. Alliterations are quite common and normally seen for what they are. But on a more serious note, and in retrospect, it was a bad idea to use humour - as I would hate anyone to think that I was the councillor for Ward 66 given the horrendous state it's in after 16 years of being (mis)represented by a DA Councillor." "I know that some members of the DA will do anything for publicity but to lay a charge against me at a Police Station for using "Councillor Keith" on Facebook could be deemed as wasting police time, but just in case I've taken my belt and laces off and will wait patiently for the knock on the door. If the DA think that is the most important thing they and the police need to worry about in the ward then we all understand why it is in the state it is!" Yes, it's true I am standing as the prospective ANC Councillor for the Ward. I believe, despite the neglect, that I and the community organisations can turn it round in the next five years. If elected the normal protocol will be to call me Councillor Peacock, not Councillor Keith. Regrettably, it does not have quite the same ring."

      John - 2011-05-05 19:36

      You sound like an a$$hole. It's obvious to any half-intelligent person that you're trying to con people on Facebook. It's excellent that the DA won't take your typical ANC bull$hit. Nobody with half a brain believes your ridiculous assertion that the DA has misrepresented Ward 66. There is something weird about a white man trying to board the ANC gravy train. I hope you lose your deposit. Or does the ANC pick up that tab too?

      Tess - 2011-05-07 10:00

      @John your comment is at the very lease disgusting. Why is there an assumption that a white person cannot support the ANC? Keith Peacock has been a member of the ANC from back in the struggle days. Where were you? on the gravy train of Apartheid? What era do you live in that you have to bring in his race??? The fact that there are 'likes' to your comment just shows that we in South Africa still have a long way to go. I hope that my shock and dismay at such a comment is indicative that I am from the new generation of South Africans where what party you support is not determined or assumed by the colour of your skin.

      The_Bird - 2011-05-09 10:28

      I agree with Tess, it is disgusting the amount of likes a comment as racist as Johns gets on this site. I feel sorry and embarressed that people like you even feel that you have the right to have a say in such a forum when you seem to think in Apartheid like ways..

  • Bob - 2011-05-05 19:38

    Pity that neither Alison van der Molen or the actual DA candidate for Ward 66 can spell councillor!!

  • King Shaka@24.com - 2011-05-06 08:04

    The censoring on this site is getting ridiculous. Yesterday on this story I posted: "This is really desperate by the DA. Such pettiness." Lo and behold, my comment was deleted!! Obviously the guy who monitors comments is pro-DA. How else can you explain it? My comment wasn't even racist, sexist, demeaning, etc.

      Rover_ZA - 2011-05-06 09:40

      There is definitely some dodgy moderating on this site.

  • Bob - 2011-05-06 11:06

    So petty DA - the second attack on the same candidate in two days - they obviously feel that their candidate for the ward isn't up to the job, so they are bringing in party leaders and neighbouring ward candidates to revert to petty negative campaigning - There are real issues at stake in this country!!

  • World Traveler - 2011-05-06 16:42

    Strange that the anc always accuse others of having no sense of humour!

  • lel - 2011-05-06 17:45

    I know Keith personally and I would just like to use this stage to recommend that if you live in his area or know anyone that lives the area he is standing that he is a proactive and a do'er, The area will be far better off if he does become the offical councillor. Lets vote in the Peacock

      Bob - 2011-05-06 17:47

      Absolutely right!!!

  • rasta7109 - 2011-05-07 11:55

    Yes, Keith. It seems to be in the DNA of you and your co-ANC jokers. Making a mockery of ethics, integrity and democracy. The joke's on you, you clown.

  • Bob - 2011-05-07 12:58

    Poor DA - their candidate is so weak they have no option but to revert to dirty tricks - and he can't even do them for himself - the candidate from the neighbouring ward has to!!

  • WhiteTsotsi - 2011-05-07 14:35

    No wonder the DA does nothing in ward 66. They're to busy going to the police laying charges against people who "falsely" call themselves councillors instead of actually doing there jobs. Councillor Keith has my full support and I hope he gets elected in ward 66.

  • nem - 2011-05-07 15:22

    The anc is here to stay,,fact,they will rig the elections to win,plus do the math 50 million people,15 million were illegal but now have id books as long as they vote anc,so that leaves us with 35 million of which 5 million are of whites and coloured,indians maybe about4 million,maybe 5 million vote DA that gives us almost 15 million against 35 million brainwashed,brainless anc voters,it will neva happen they will neva loose,the question is who will be the next president? malema is being groomed for it to run SA. What can the minority in this country do and those who want to live in freedom from crime and racism from a communist government???? Western Cape is our saviour,if the DA do not negotiate and declare the Western Cape a homeland,or autonomous independent state,then we have no choice but to take up arms and fight for it ourselves,yes there will be a great trek south,as the anc agenda has always been to quote en quote "drive the whites back to the sea where we came from" so be it farmers move south and all those who want freedom,then we will build our borders and live happily ever after,remember in 1652 the bantus/xhosas and zulus were all up north.the koi san,bushman and hottentots and strandloers were in the westenr cape and northern cape first,we will even have a coloured president.we just want to have our freedom from the anc commun ist agenda. VIVA Western Cape Republic VIVA

      The_Bird - 2011-05-09 10:34

      Our Government is neo-libral and is capitalist through and through... I pity someone as uneducated and blind as you are. You go against every fabric of the society Nelson Mandela fought for, I hope you go hide in a dark hole where you belong.. Even the DA supporters on this sight wont even like your comment, please leave our beautiful country, it would be a blessing to all here.. And guess what Im white and live in the Western Cape, Viva democracy Viva!!!!

  • Blip - 2011-05-07 23:02

    The DA watchdog is alert! Good work!

  • Bonzer - 2011-05-08 03:44

    South Africans are so messed up, you have become used to lawlessness. IT IS NOT OK TO BREAK THE LAW; ANY LAW.

      Bob - 2011-05-08 16:51

      Sure I agree with you but in this case no law has been broken - the Act refers to a statement made 'when required in terms of this Act to make a statement'. Obviously a facebook comment does not fall under a required statement made as required by the Act!!

  • Joryha - 2011-05-08 06:30

    Peacock face the music,what you did was wrong and improper, so don't Chicken out. DA will have your wings.

  • AllHoliday - 2011-05-08 12:29

    Typical ANC mentality, when caught out. Their defence is always that it was not ment that way, or what ever they said was taken out of contex. It is time that are held responsible, the law apply to all!

      Bob - 2011-05-08 16:52

      As you see above - nobody could think a face book comment is a statement made when required to do so in terms of the Act!

  • Megiddo - 2011-05-13 11:56

    LOL, so the guy can't be ambitious? I think the only bad thing here is if he has to change that title. DA is mad...they will lay a charge over anything as long as it puts other parties in a bad light. DA, the blame game party.

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