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DA lodges Ekurhuleni objection

2011-05-20 10:44

Pretoria - "What has happened to the ward ballots?" DA leader Helen Zille asked on Friday after the party lodged an objection with the IEC over voting in Ekurhuleni, Gauteng, which it lost to the ANC by 23 votes.

According to the DA a polling station at Margeret Maltman Creche (KwaThema) allegedly stayed open for half an hour longer, and at a voting station at Dalview Primary School in Brakpan, 200 more proportional votes were allegedly counted than ward votes.

"...Two hundred fewer ward ballots compared to proportional ballots? That's very strange," Zille said.

"What happened to the ward ballots?"

Zille said if this hadn't happened, the DA would have won in Ekurhuleni.

"There would have been a different outcome."

The objection was lodged on Thursday night, said Mike Moriarty, a senior representative on the party's liaison committee at the Independent Electoral Commission (IEC).

He said an affidavit from the DA's party agent was received earlier on Wednesday, and "this was his version of the facts".

The DA was seeking a recount of the votes.

"This is enough to cause a re-election," Moriarty said, adding that if the IEC found no discrepancies, the party may go to an electoral court.

"We may well do so. We will have to make decisions based on the outcome [of the objection]."

He said the IEC would in the meantime see if the complaint had any substance. The presiding officers at the voting stations would be interviewed. One of the questions to be answered was if voters were issued with ward ballots.

If there was a finding in the DA's favour the ANC stood to lose ward seats, Moriarty said.

When asked if DA supporters had been educated on the fact that voters should be given two ballots at a local government election, Zille said: "We do that all the time."

Comments
  • cb - 2011-05-20 10:48

    ..and so it starts.

      FRpower - 2011-05-20 10:52

      I second that,but im not surprised that there's something fishy going on. I hope the DA sort this out quickly.

      MWF - 2011-05-20 11:12

      I'm not happy about how the votes were stored in this area. When I voted, the box where one inserts the votes was not sealed at all. I questioned this, and I was told that they only seal the box after it is full. So I asked, what is stopping you from removing a few votes before you seal it then? The reply was typical, "eish, you massst jus trus us" Go DA, all the way to court, I will happily re-vote if needed.

      rianadk - 2011-05-20 11:52

      @ MWF...maybe you should inform someone from the DA about this? It might help them...

      Mthetwa - 2011-05-20 11:57

      I was there. Some were deliberately not stamped. I heard the complaints & warnings from previous voters.

      chappy - 2011-05-20 11:58

      Very much like how 1.3 million people in Gauteng voted and yet the ANC got 1.8 million votes, according to an earlier story on this website...

      Dr Filemon - 2011-05-20 12:48

      At our ward, our ID's were not scanned and the stamps were from 2009! I wonder if these votes were then eligible

      Nathi123 - 2011-05-20 13:57

      "Zille said if this hadn't happened, the DA would have won in Ekurhuleni." is she a sangoma now?

      Zelios - 2011-05-20 14:46

      @Nathi123 No she just has common sense and intelligence. The two things which I assume you lack. Refrain from making such a half-witted comment in the future.

      Zion - 2011-05-20 15:29

      Nathi, no not sangoma - basic arithmetic Grade 4 level.

      Captain Jack - 2011-05-20 16:12

      @Nathi123 - Yes she is a Sangoma - "Die Wit Heks gaan julle toor" and not even your ancestors would be able to save you.. MWhahahahaha!!

      Matt - 2011-05-20 16:39

      @ Dr Filemon - in Primrose they didn't scan our IDs either, even though they had machines. But the scanner is to verify that you are ALLOWED to vote (it goes by ID), but your voting paper is not linked to your ID so it's fine. Never noticed what was on the stamp - just checked that they were stamped (yes, thanks for the tip a couple of weeks earlier, via misc News24 comments)

      Lee-Ann - 2011-05-20 19:29

      My sons wife could have voted 3x. 1 name not cleared of list after voting and not painted. Her married name was also on the list. Wonder how many ANC members voted more than once or for someone who was not even there.

      Koring - 2011-05-20 20:05

      Chee, What's new? We all know that the IEC was appointed by the ANC and are all ANC supporters. We all know that the ANC are corrupt and corruptness breeds corruption. Wish, we all know that they cant count having been subjected to the ANC curriculum---- like :how many zeros do you put on a salary cheque and where do you put the comma.

      Koring - 2011-05-20 20:09

      I don't care what party is involved. As Koring said, corruption breeds corruption. If I were the DA, I certainly would not take this lying down. Take it to the highest court --- even apply for a recount and force it on the IEC. Declare the ballot void.

      BigD - 2011-05-21 07:32

      @MWF. Maybe you should have pointed this out to the officials and forced them to seal the boxes.

      golferspal - 2011-05-21 09:18

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yMwRM7LIVKo&feature=related

      Meanleader - 2011-05-26 17:15

      nathi .. you are not a stupid monkey .

  • mik - 2011-05-20 10:49

    Ja, definately something fishy here...

  • ZumaDooma - 2011-05-20 10:49

    Nothing will come of this...

      pensioner - 2011-05-20 10:58

      @ ZumaDooma--of course nothing will come of this because it favours the ANC.

      MeChirping - 2011-05-20 11:12

      Not so sure nothing will come of this, certainly don't hope so... even if they DA still lose... at least they stood up and made their voice heard

      CraigColinRoyMcLeod - 2011-05-20 12:00

      Who cares if their voice was heard, it did nothing. Paying lip service to something does nothing. It's a pointless act. And the IEC is made up of a number of ANC memebers, so really its all a sham, they should get an IEC from the US to handle our elections for a fee. now that would be interesting. make it a high end service and then watch how the votes really unfold. I can guarantee you the voting would turn out 15-20% better in favour in the DA if the stations were run fairly and ANC intimidation and coercion at stations was properly stamped out.

      ANC Ancestor - 2011-05-20 12:15

      @ZumaDooma something IS supposed to come from this as the IEC is supposed to be INDEPENDANT

      MeChirping - 2011-05-20 12:23

      @CraigColinRoyMcLeod, not sure what you're on about but anyway... yes they could get an IEC from outside and what else... my point was. The DA felt there were faul play, they stood up and act against it. If they still loose, to bad for them and Ekurhuleni, Helen does not pay LIP Service, She Acts

      Zion - 2011-05-20 15:31

      We should not under estimate The lady. She like Tony Leon has more brains than the cabinet combined.

      stukyster - 2011-05-21 01:41

      @ Craig, you mean the system where they use PROPRIETARY voting machines that no one is allowed to inspect? We need transparency.

  • Barry - 2011-05-20 10:50

    I smell a rat

      MadeInAS - 2011-05-20 10:56

      ja the one thats in your back yard !!!

      POLLENYS - 2011-05-20 11:59

      ANC is full of rats. I wonder how many will see the light and abandon ship.

      GP - 2011-05-20 12:41

      Maybe we should get a fiddler to lead them to the sea!

      Matt - 2011-05-20 16:41

      @ Barry - if you live in Ekurhuleni, chances are you will smell rats...

  • Lefty - 2011-05-20 10:50

    The IEC is ANC controlled..duh!

      JohnnyBB - 2011-05-20 11:14

      ....Beware..!! ...corrupt and incompetent ANC at work.... ...He he he he ..!!

  • Jedi Master - 2011-05-20 10:52

    DUCK!!!!! Cause now the Sh!T is going to fly...

  • Mxo32 - 2011-05-20 10:52

    Please Helen do not be like the rest of Africa...accept defeat..who knows maybe those votes were for the ANC......

      Lefty - 2011-05-20 10:54

      Bbbbb..bullsh1t!

      mixit - 2011-05-20 10:56

      I mean this ou lady, did she check how many % ANC worn Ekurhukeni by, would "alleged" 200 votes make much od a difference. give it up Madam

      Andy - 2011-05-20 10:57

      Even if they were, they still need to be counted correctly, you can't have something like this hanging over the ruling party in Ekurhuleni.

      wesleywt - 2011-05-20 10:57

      Actually it seems like the ANC is behaving like the rest of Africa, by cheating in elections.

      Charlie - 2011-05-20 10:58

      If Helen was like the rest of Africa her campaign would not have been nearly as successful as it was/is!

      LOLWUT - 2011-05-20 10:58

      So we should accept incompetence and corruption. Screw you my friend.

      Edynot - 2011-05-20 10:58

      And if the recount goes the DA way? Will you accept defeat? I say bring on a recount!!!

      Stevie - 2011-05-20 11:02

      There's a difference between being defeated and being cheated. If the ANC has nothing to hide, then a ballot recount should be no problem, yes?

      pensioner - 2011-05-20 11:02

      @ Mxo32--well let us find out first where these votes went and not drop it because it favours the ANC. If it was the other way around, do you think that the ANC would not lodge an appeal.

      tkotze - 2011-05-20 11:03

      Doesn't matter which direction it might have gone, just get a clear answer. If no clear answer is given it will only result in a larger question over ANCs head and its support of democracy. I have every confidence if something happened in the cape it would have been investigated to get a clearcut answer.

      Juggernaut - 2011-05-20 11:23

      If so lets see it then.

      Welleducated - 2011-05-20 11:27

      Black people like Mxo32 are racists and that is WHY they vote ANC, no otehr reason. In any case, to have 200 ballots missing stinks like corruption, yes?

      Mxo32 - 2011-05-20 11:31

      Well educated-who is turning this into a race thing? You idiot....

      Sho Fukamachi - 2011-05-20 11:39

      We will not bow down to corruption. You clowns should keep pushing, it'll be at your own expense.

      Sarah - 2011-05-20 11:40

      Yes, they may have been for ANC or any of the other parties, 200 ballots are missing what we have is free but what happenned to FAIR elections! Accepting defeat can only be done when there is no corruption involved, I would like to know that my vote was counted!

      Cor - 2011-05-20 11:44

      if defeat is fair no probleme

      chappy - 2011-05-20 12:01

      @ Mixit: Maybe you should read the article again before making stupid comments. The very first paragraph says they lost by 23 votes. Now try stay with me here: That's a lot less than 200.

      Bootstrapp - 2011-05-20 12:02

      and maybe pigs can fly...

      REVO - 2011-05-20 12:09

      @Mxo32....."Accept defeat"!!! That's really rich coming from a party whom lost MIDVAAL and threatened to burn down DA shacks!! Please this is an educational forum....check your facts budddy. There's always the Sowetan where you can post your baseless facts.

      ANC Ancestor - 2011-05-20 12:18

      @MXO32 I am sure that Helen would accept defeat where the other party were duly elected. Not the case here, something's fishy

      Mxo32 - 2011-05-20 12:22

      Revo-for your information I am not an ANC nor a DA....my party was well defeated. Maybe you should find another forum where you can post your baseless assumptions.

      supporter - 2011-05-20 15:47

      Helen Zille should be addressed as HER ROYAL HIGHNESS, MADAN HELEN ZILLE. Well done DA. Helen, go get these corrupt anc lovers and sort them out

      Zelios - 2011-05-20 16:32

      @Mxo32 It's irrelevant which party you voted for. The fact of the matter is, any political party (if the roles were reversed) would want a recount. If you are going to have an election it must be done accurately and efficiently without corruption. Is your mind incapable of understanding such requirements?

      Matt - 2011-05-20 16:34

      @ mixit - 200 BOXES you dweeb not 200 votes

      CAD59 - 2011-05-20 16:42

      @ mixit: acording to the article the margin is 23 votes. read properly before making half assed comments

      whatashame - 2011-05-20 21:33

      She is someone of integrity so even if the votes were for ANC, it wouldn't matter to her. The principles of integrity remain and what happened was wrong. So let her kick up a noise. I am sure given the voting station, the votes probably were for the ANC but wrong is wrong and at least she doesn't just shut her mouth and thank her lucky stars that votes (probably against her) were missing. I'm sure all DA supporters would be prepared to get a lesser percentage for the right and honest thing to do. People are not all crooks and Zille doesn't play gutter politics. She (and everyone else) knew the ANC would win the overall election so if she was not the sort of person to accept defeat, she wouldn't have entered the race.

  • MetEishYa - 2011-05-20 10:56

    The madam will not let this be swept under the carpet - go Helen

  • AL.M - 2011-05-20 10:56

    GO DA THE EAST RAND NEEDS U!!!

  • roboman1 - 2011-05-20 10:57

    Lets not speculate, do a full recount, if there is a mismatch, hold a by election to re-vote

  • pat - 2011-05-20 10:58

    It was reported that a similar thing was happening in Nelson Mandela Bay with only 1 ballot paper being handed out at one of the voting stations. Wonder were else that was going on?

  • Jason V - 2011-05-20 10:59

    Just like the DA had Jhb right up to the last moment when the ANC suddenly has a huge lead... ?!?!.

      JohnnyBB - 2011-05-20 11:25

      ....ANC = Robber Mugabe = steal elections.....

      marguerite - 2011-05-20 11:30

      Thank you.. they should recount these votes!!

      chappy - 2011-05-20 12:10

      They won 1.8 million of the 1.3 million votes according to an earlier story on this website...

      Victoria - 2011-05-20 12:26

      I was also wondering about that. Unless News 24 stuffed up their Interactive Map.

  • JohnyBlue - 2011-05-20 10:59

    By the looks Jesus is coming sooner than we may have thought. Yipee!!!

      MWF - 2011-05-20 11:23

      lol

      marguerite - 2011-05-20 11:31

      Johny Johny Johny.. He's coming tomorrow.. didn't you know??

      shaun.cousins1 - 2011-05-20 11:54

      and guess whose gonna be left behind for the rapture...

      chappy - 2011-05-20 12:10

      Is he the mexican guy that runs the Dagga Party?

  • sefeddt - 2011-05-20 10:59

    When asked if DA supporters had been educated on the fact that voters should be given two ballots at a local government election, Zille said: "We do that all the time." How do they know who the DA supporters were that voted to single the DA out. Besides it precisely because there is a difference between ward and proportional that the DA are querying it.

      Nkulekweni - 2011-05-20 11:29

      K za you are free to leave Africa anytime. And Africa will do so much better without your blend of racism. The reaosn why people are too scared to vote for a party that promises change is racists like you who only have a positive self esteem by denigrating other human beings.

      JM - 2011-05-20 11:51

      @Nkule, he/she asked a valid question and made a statement about double checking the count as 200 ward votes vanished. How is this racist and whats with this leave Africa? Please explain... lol, do you actualy think all whites are gonna say, "well now that Nkule said so I guess we all should leave...haha" I think you might be the racist in this one my friend.

      chappy - 2011-05-20 12:13

      They took IQ tests and informed the ones who scored more than 10

      Peru - 2011-05-20 12:18

      It is not for the DA or any other party for that matter to educate voters on how many ballot papers, etc to use. That is the job of the IEC on voting day to ensure that the voters have the correct ballot papers and they are placed in the correct boxes

  • K_za - 2011-05-20 11:00

    What do you expect from a corrupt party that uses the fear of God to win votes. I'm starting to wonder if there is any point in trying to do anything civilised in Africa.

      mike - 2011-05-20 11:37

      @bantu - go back to the drc now where You come from

  • donald.mthombeni - 2011-05-20 11:01

    Corrupt , Exactely the same has happened in Ward 29 Mopani district in Lompopo and the complaint has been ignored by IEC when Ximoko Progressive Party (XPP)logged the complaint against such behaviour by IEC officials. Another party called African National Co****** has won illegally and obviously unfair to Xomoko (XPP)

      Felix - 2011-05-20 11:12

      They learned from their hero bob 'we will rig elections and chase the white into the sea'

      Bantu - 2011-05-20 11:15

      Accept defeat with dignity Xim....

      mike - 2011-05-20 11:39

      it is not defeat it is cheating ie: corruption but then @bantu that is what you voted for eh?

      johan - 2011-05-20 14:31

      WE NEED MORE PEOPLE LIKE YOU.

  • donald.mthombeni - 2011-05-20 11:01

    Corrupt , Exactely the same has happened in Ward 29 Mopani district in Lompopo and the complaint has been ignored by IEC when Ximoko Progressive Party (XPP)logged the complaint against such behaviour by IEC officials. Another party called African National Co****** has won illegally and obviously unfair to Xomoko (XPP)

  • BokomoWeetbi - 2011-05-20 11:02

    Clearly, the total amount of proportional votes should equate the total amount of ward votes. If there is 200 ward votes missing then,..what happened to it? Irregularities? Shrek? Miscounting? Shrek? Stolen? Shrek?Hidden? Shrek? Zuma up in this mother!....

  • Playnice - 2011-05-20 11:04

    Any of the other parties would raise an objection if they felt there were irregularities that affected them.

  • Maera.Dogstar - 2011-05-20 11:07

    Please Helen, dont just leave it. Pursue this until the record is set straight here. 200 votes will give us the metro!!!!

      Kevin - 2011-05-20 11:50

      More important it will get rid of the baddies

  • mark.oppenheimer1 - 2011-05-20 11:07

    Is there something wrong with this site's election map? It shows the ANC winning in Ekurhuleni by about 300 000 votes, not the advertised 23.

      Donovan - 2011-05-20 11:43

      It is not for the Whole of Ekhuhuleni Just 1 (one) ward.

      Angus - 2011-05-20 11:55

      I think that hasn't been emphasised nearly enough. I think people are lead to understand that it's the whole municipality. The article is incredibly misleading!

  • PMG - 2011-05-20 11:08

    The ANC and that skelm ZOOM ZOOM can definatly not be trusted,just ask Shabir,do you dumbass ANC supporters think he committed corruption all by himself.Do the recount NOW,We the people have spoken,We are not all stupid dumb sheep.

      Grant - 2011-05-20 17:29

      Unfortunately, most of "us" ARE stupid, dumb sheep!

  • John - 2011-05-20 11:09

    AS Uncle Joe Stalin said "It is not the people who cast their votes who choose the government, it is the people who count the votes".

  • Jonathan - 2011-05-20 11:12

    HAHAHA - @ kisstheboer, you really make me laugh, Ekurhuleni was lost by 23 votes, not quite the huge margin that you were suggesting. Maybe read the article before commenting on it. Its also amusing to see your stance on a fair election....

  • John - 2011-05-20 11:13

    As Uncle Joe Stalin said "It is not the people who cast their votes that chooses the government, it is the people who count the votes/////////'.

  • Speedy - 2011-05-20 11:14

    To all those saying that the 200 votes could have gone the other way, remember that the DA would not lodge a complaint if it was not going to be in their favour. To all those that say the ANC has the majority in Ekurhuleni, remember also that the DA only took Cape Town by forming a coalition. They delivered, like all elected parties should, and now they have a majority like no other in the Western Cape. Small baby steps, the rest will follow based on the first ones.

      clayton.bezuidenhout - 2011-05-20 12:57

      No DA would not, but if it was the other way around , the ANC would do the same. If the system exists use it. You are allowed to question the outcome of an election if you have reasonable evidence.

  • 4_Land_Grabs - 2011-05-20 11:16

    Sore Losers!

      Lab-Rat - 2011-05-20 12:25

      Dirty cheaters!

      Grant - 2011-05-20 17:31

      I hope you starve - and I hope your children blame YOU!

      tammi2day - 2011-05-20 23:49

      @ Grant - He probably will if the current state of 'repossessed' farms is anything to go by, and as a result, they probably will! If we fail to learn from History (Zimbabwe) we are doomed to repeat it!! It is a sad truth that people only figure out when it is too late!

  • RAM - 2011-05-20 11:19

    Please let the re-count go the DA's way. We need a well run metro like Cape Town where everything works and there is no litter lying around.

  • Thandiwe83 - 2011-05-20 11:19

    I did not realise Ekurhuleni was this close?

  • tut - 2011-05-20 11:20

    To be expected. Dirty ANC tactics. Nothing new! They learn't from the best - ZANU-PF

  • Adrian Frith - 2011-05-20 11:22

    The article is ridiculously wrong. The DA did not lose by 23 votes in Ekurhuleni; it lost by 240,000. Maybe in some particular ward there was a margin of 23 votes?

      Dave - 2011-05-20 11:42

      Typically bad reporting here, the first para says Ekurhuleni, then the next para mentions that in a particular voting station there were 200 more proportional votes than ward votes, who knows, maybe the DA took the number of voters registered for that district and extrapolated, who knows

      Skiballas - 2011-05-20 11:48

      I reckon they were referring to a ward, but still, if it doesnt tally up in that ward, a recount must be done. it is fair, and people democratic right to receive fair results.

  • Juggernaut - 2011-05-20 11:23

    Where is Ekurhuleni? Can we have real names in future

      JohnnyBB - 2011-05-20 11:27

      ...the ANC stole the real names....

      MetEishYa - 2011-05-20 11:31

      Ekurhulooni - the far east,

      R013 - 2011-05-20 12:03

      Kempton Park, Boksburg, Benoni... etc.

  • johanscheepers - 2011-05-20 11:23

    On the election result map it says that the ANC won in the Ekurhuleni with 61% opposed to 30.98% of the DA. So where does this 23 votes come in?

  • jowza - 2011-05-20 11:24

    sour grapes

      johan - 2011-05-20 14:34

      SHEEP IS SHEEP.

  • Boerseun - 2011-05-20 11:24

    Count these votes again and give those physical values. The compare with the computer generated results...I cannot wait. As a matter of principle a number of at least 30% of all votes should be counted and reported manually and compared with the computer generated results. This is the only way to be sure than no cheating or problems occurred in the computerized system.

      Allah - 2011-05-20 12:23

      It's over, why are you people looking for problems not solutions. Where the DA is winning you keep your mouth shut but where the ANC is winning you start complaining, in Mandela Bay, the madam said those very same words and they won, are they going to lodge a complain about that again? Grow up SA

      Zelios - 2011-05-20 16:43

      Yes and the pathetic Julius Malema said the ANC would take the whole Western Cape easily. But look what happened. Why are you so witless that you are incapable of comprehending the IEC's obligations of free and fair elections. If the votes are mishandled in such a way then it is not fair is it? Perhaps you should grow up and grow a brain while you at it, if that is even possible for a person such as yourself.

      Zelios - 2011-05-20 16:44

      @Allah

      Grant - 2011-05-20 17:34

      @Allah - what exactly are we supposed to be looking for solutions TO if we shouldn't be looking for problems? You idiot!

      Rev. H-Cubed - 2011-05-20 19:04

      Allah, the DA is fighting for the rights of the citizens to have their votes counted. If 200 ballots are missing, then 200 citizens have been denied their democratic rights. Now, some parties may not think it's a big deal if "only" 200 people are involved, but the DA is obviously not one of those parties. Every vote is important, and every citizen deserves to be heard.

      tammi2day - 2011-05-20 23:58

      @ Allah, Perhaps this clearly shows the divide between the 'haves' and the 'have-nots'... even though the current regime has had 17 years to provide: - free housing - free water - free electricity - free education - a bunch of other free stuff that I can't remember and neither can anyone else because they never got it anyway! The 'have-nots' (and the current regime has NO intention of making them 'haves' as this would mean educating them which in turn would lead to them asking all sorts of difficult questions) have not got access to electricity or education, let alone computers (except for those who are obviously 'konnektud'). We can't help but look AT the problem and wonder why the obvious SOLUTION of voting for a party that is NOT corrupt, thieving, racist, sexist, etc. was not implemented NOW? PS: Ms. Zille doesn't insist that everyone call her Madam, it is just those who fail woodwork and have low self-esteem and cannot get passed their past that continue to view her as a superior being!

  • High5 - 2011-05-20 11:31

    Once again, the DA are being sore loosers!!!

      joselindsay - 2011-05-20 13:23

      not sore losers, Just fighting for what is rightfully theirs

      johan - 2011-05-20 14:35

      FOOL

      Rev. H-Cubed - 2011-05-20 19:06

      The only losers are those citizens who have had their right to be counted violated. Once again, certain individuals reveal their abject ignorance of "Democracy".

  • Ant - 2011-05-20 11:32

    IEC + ANC = CORRUPTION

      jowza - 2011-05-20 11:36

      ant=unwanted pest

      Bantu - 2011-05-20 11:58

      aNT x da = 0

      realist101 - 2011-05-20 13:36

      @ jowza & bantu wow you two should maybe start your own college, you seem very smart for two hopeless ANC voting, corrupt, boer killing flippen scum!! why do you always try and deny the fact that the party you voted for is corrupt and worth fokol!? thank God for blessing us with the DA in Cape Town!

      Grant - 2011-05-20 17:36

      jowza X Bantu = the same result as dropping the soap! Remember to shower so you dont get AIDS boys!

  • Kevin - 2011-05-20 11:34

    Not all is lost. Here in Plett and 16 other municipalities in the Western Cape all the way to Capetown are now DA. Move here,no corruption,no nepotism no staying at home everyday like our cronies did. Just good governanace. Move here guys .

      Bantu - 2011-05-20 11:56

      I am on my way to support the ANC

      chappy - 2011-05-20 12:28

      You should come Bantu. After a few days you'll see how much better the DA does for the people and join the ranks.. just like many of your brothers have done.

      GMan - 2011-05-20 12:56

      @ Bantu: and then you'll see what excellent governance is, and turn DA :D

  • Finjo - 2011-05-20 11:34

    bad losers

      clayton.bezuidenhout - 2011-05-20 12:54

      and if it was the ANC making this statement?

  • cj.venter - 2011-05-20 11:37

    digital era people, we need ipads and scanners to vote with, not papers that can be tampered with. definite foulplay happening here.

  • Mike or Mpho - 2011-05-20 11:39

    Everyone hold your horses! Let IEC do their part first, than speculate. IEC has done a decent job this year, I am sure this will be resolved correctly and efficiently

  • Born To Fish - 2011-05-20 11:39

    And if the same thing happened to the ANC? It would have been headline news! Recount them if you are so confident that you have not cheated. And to all the ANC supporters, I see even in Victory you still do not have any manners!

      Allah - 2011-05-20 12:28

      you are a real fisherman, not a politician. this is all about politics. only a wise party accepts defeat without accusing someone else

      Grant - 2011-05-20 17:37

      Would you be saying the same thing if the NP had somehow won in 1994?

  • Mike - 2011-05-20 11:39

    When asked if DA supporters had been educated on the fact that voters should be given two ballots at a local government election, Zille said: "We do that all the time." Okay, maybe I missed that class as I didn't know until I got into the polling station itself and was handed 2 ballot papers. If I'd been given one only, I'd have been none the wiser until it was too late.

      Muzi - 2011-05-20 11:56

      DA party agents are too blame for this. Where I was monitoring the elections I was positioned at the ballot box. My job was to ensure everyone has two ballots and they put them in a correct box. Out of 2300 voters in my VD we told about 15 people to go and fetch the second ballot. The question is where were the DA party agents? Too scared to go the township? Don't they have local branch there? We as South Africans need to develop a culture of responsibility instead of the blame culture. Example, in car accident law, if someone skip a robot, crash with you and die - they must still establish that you took reasonable pre-caution to avoid the crash even if its not your fault (i.e. you acted responsible as a "reasonable man/person" would have. DA is just making noise again. They are putting doubt to their ignorant supporters. they will no go to court as they know what will happen. They must the propaganda, its not good for progress.

      POLLENYS - 2011-05-20 12:06

      You want to be spoonfed?

      Born To Fish - 2011-05-20 12:07

      What do you mean correct box? we only had one box!

      Felix - 2011-05-20 12:23

      Thanks Muzi, proof that anc cadres are running the IEC.

      Zion - 2011-05-20 15:53

      We in the Free State had 3 ballot papers. The poor lady at the boxes indicating where to stuff the papers in according to colour etc nearly broke her neck trying to see how I voted.

      Zion - 2011-05-20 15:57

      Muzi, what is your case? The DA is simply acting within their rights and it is their democratic right to have the case sorted out. If you want to see corruption visit the party you voted for.

      AJ - 2011-05-21 00:47

      @Muzi - if you were at the ballot box making sure everything ran smoothly, then why should DA members be present. Are you saying you were only assisting certain voters? Is it you that cannot be trusted? The culture of responsibility falls to anybody in a position to carry it out, and not specific party members on behalf of just their supporters.

  • Nkulekweni - 2011-05-20 11:43

    Before reading comments on this site I never understood why more Black, Asian and Mixed Race people did not vote DA. Voting for DA promises positive change for everyone. But after following comments on this site over the last week I realise that it is DA supporters themselves who turn people off the party. The racism of DA supporters on this sight is truly eye opening. Does DA leadership realise that it has such racist members in its ranks? Someone needs to lift quotations from this site and send them to DA leadership to let them know where their greatest challenge is...racism in the ranks. If they are going to increase their support they need to stamp racism out firmly and quickly. We need a credible, non racist party governing this country from 2014.

      Born To Fish - 2011-05-20 12:09

      You must see the ANC ones, just on this page. White witch, Monkey, White loser.....Eish Take that splinter out of your own eye first...

      Peru - 2011-05-20 12:22

      The DA does not support racism and does not stand for it. I think the remarks posted by some should not be generalised. They might not even be DA supporters.

      Grynch - 2011-05-20 12:36

      Hi Nkulekweni.I think maybe the reason is that these racists previously used to vote AWB,Freedom Front etc and they switched to the DA because it was obviously a hopeless cause. At heart though, that is where they belong - in the old South Africa where people of colour couldn't vote at all.

      Nkulekweni - 2011-05-20 12:41

      Fully agree that the racism is on both sides. And some of the comments from ANC supporters totally gross but hardly suprising, the ANC uses racism to win votes. I am focussing on moving forward and I see the DA as the only credible party for the future.I am just pointing our to people that if they want to convince other people of that, there is need to stop not only racist comments but racist thinking and behaviour. Leave the white witch and other such comments to those who are happy with the past. Lets look to 2014 and vote for a bright future. The way I see it, the DA has won this election...

      Mannie777 - 2011-05-20 12:46

      Oh please ... every time someone says something negative about the ANC its seen as racist. How can i as a DA supporter be racist if the DA has thousands of black/colourd support?? Even the blacks I spoke to at the local gym said they voted DA. Times are changing and the ANC feels threatened. Plain and simple. This is why they keep on with (on this site) "go back to Europe" "this is OUR country" "the Madam" "the white party" "you will bring apartheid back" "you white ppl this and you white ppl that".... did you miss all these comments and many, many more?

      Zion - 2011-05-20 16:00

      Corruption and theft etc turns us off from voting for the ANC and we don't take too much notice of what happens on some forum.

      AJ - 2011-05-21 00:49

      @Nkulekweni - you conveniently missed the other side of the debate haven't you? Why is that?

  • bosstress - 2011-05-20 11:46

    Argh!!! enuf already..... ANC won.... again.

  • Ngqeku - 2011-05-20 11:47

    Typical DA mentality. Always moaning about everything

      clayton.bezuidenhout - 2011-05-20 12:53

      Typical ANC mentality. Always blame someone else.

      AJ - 2011-05-21 00:53

      @Ngqeju: So it is your contention that possible electoral malpractise should NOT be investigated? That's how you would approach things like this? If a process is not followed according to a legal and/or agreed procedure and an injustice has been possibly done, then one should just 'let it slide'? Grow up. Lets do away with the CCMA then - just employees moaning I suppose, and the Labour Courts, just people moaning etc etc, and the SA Bureau of Standards - just companies moaning right, and the Advertising Authority, just viewers moaning etc etc. Ngqeku, why dont you understand why various bodies are there? It's not a difficult concept.

  • Kenneth - 2011-05-20 11:50

    I think with a difference as small as what it was, a re-election should be manditory no matter how small the discrepancy. This is a democracy, lets not let it turn into a mock thereof.

  • Mthetwa - 2011-05-20 11:51

    I was there. Some were deliberately not stamped, so I assume, they were spoint ballots

  • podgy - 2011-05-20 11:51

    News24. Your election map and your article contradict each other hugely. Which one is telling the correct story? Please get your facts right.

  • lacisnesnon - 2011-05-20 11:52

    All you white people posing as black ANC supporters, get a life!