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Democracy has won - Bam

2011-05-21 20:06

Pretoria - Democracy has won once again in South Africa, IEC chairperson Brigalia Bam said on Saturday.

"South Africa's multi-party democracy is increasingly being recognised by the international community," Bam said, announcing the results of the 2011 local government election.

Bam said South Africa was a country where political battles were fought in the "ballot box" and one admired for "reputation of credible elections".

"South Africans have once more shown us the way, thank you South Africa.

"We have passed this test cum laude. Our democracy is dynamic... every election vote is important, competition and contestation may be difficult but that is healthy," she said.

The election saw a massive surge in the number of people who took part, with turnout measured at 57.6%.

Comments
  • spottius - 2011-05-21 20:20

    Democracy may have won, but i'm not sure sanity has prevailed!

      Larissa - 2011-05-22 09:22

      Chaos and Disorder has won once again....

      clark - 2011-05-22 09:57

      - Only because the Anc received a majority ( albeit reduced ) at the polls. Our democracy would be trampled and trashed, if the Anc lost that majority. Who are we kidding ? - Our infant democracy is paper thin - not sure it would survive if the Anc's grip on power was challenged.

      croix - 2011-05-22 14:03

      It seems that 'democracy' has very little to do with leaders telling their illiterate followers thing like: "Your forefathers will visit you if you turn your back on the ANC" .... "You cannot go to heaven if you don't vote ANC" .... etc, etc, etc. (Borderline intimidation?) This type of democracy is only tolerated in Africa. In fact, a person like Mr Zoomer would NEVER be allowed to run for president in any civilised, REAL DEMOCRACY. (Case in point: Strauss-Kahn - accused of sexual misconduct, RESIGNS IMMEDIATELY). A real democracy would be based entirely on the MERIT of candidates - never on the colour of their skins.

      JohnnyBB - 2011-05-23 16:23

      ....Africa is to primitive and uncivilized for "democracy"... ......"democracy" only works in civilised western countries...

  • Bo3rtjie - 2011-05-21 20:22

    Democracy my ass!! It's just n bunch of communist stealing our lives. It is time to stop humanizing these monkey's and take our country and lives back.

      matla - 2011-05-21 20:55

      i agree with you , ape

      motsokwane - 2011-05-21 20:59

      Hey! HEY !boerkie, watch your backside.

      VM1 - 2011-05-21 21:56

      Hey Boertjie Just like the boputhatswana but on a larger scale neh - in fact we can ask SABC to show the footage of the 3 chaps next to the Mereceides ask you father if you were not born then.

      thobsion.ANC - 2011-05-21 22:05

      Hey, NJA, don't come and be h*o*r*n*e*y here bloody freaken pink pig.

      Refilwemu - 2011-05-23 10:44

      Obviously you are delusional. You are day dreaming and if you do anything silly, the peace forces in this country will deal with your stupidity like Obama did Osama.

  • william.botha - 2011-05-21 20:24

    Just start lashing those loose cannons in the ANC and the ANCYL. Loose cannons are no good in a wooden ship.

      thobsion.ANC - 2011-05-21 22:08

      uyinja wena... nja ndini.

      william.botha - 2011-05-21 23:00

      Nyoka wena thobsion

  • willvp - 2011-05-21 20:29

    democracy is for sane people who can think for themselves. ........Not for Africa thus.

  • buthanan.ngwane - 2011-05-21 20:31

    The oppressed are allowed once every few years to decide which particular representatives of the oppressing class are to represent and repress them. K. Marx

      World Traveler - 2011-05-21 22:20

      Exactly!!!!

  • Expat - 2011-05-21 20:36

    True democracy can only win when a ruling party loses an election at least twice

      Unathi - 2011-05-21 20:59

      Remain an expat

      Stevehofmeye - 2011-05-21 21:01

      That's dumb.

      Unathi - 2011-05-21 21:08

      @Stevehofmeyer, Well maybe you are clever but if you cant simple accept the outcomes of democracy then I dont know your level of intellect.

      Expat - 2011-05-21 22:26

      @ Unathi - Thanks, It goes without question, I plan to do exactly that. Especially since it's precisely people like you that have no idea whatsoEVER real democracy actually means

  • motsokwane - 2011-05-21 20:38

    Now we know what an who people want in Mzansi.I hope Helen will back off a bit.

      gizzy - 2011-05-21 21:07

      Why should she back off? She is the leader of the opposition! Google the words "politics" and "democracy". Where's Mzansi? EC, KZN, Gauteng???????

  • Red26 - 2011-05-21 20:39

    Proof that the masses cannot apply their minds and associate their cross on the ballot paper with delivery. The racial polarisation of our society along racial lines is what keeps the ANC in power; as long as the mindless minions keep hearing the message that there is a whitey behind every bush waiting to drag us back into the past and that the ancestors will get angry this status quo will continue. The DA has again failed to counter these fears and have thus made marginal gains.

      motsokwane - 2011-05-21 20:56

      Red26,Don't think that the "polarisation" doesn't worry some of the voters who voted for ANC.Until we have a political party that will attract and delegate all the races equally ,not only during the election period, then I will say we have arrived.ANC managed to master that, I wonder who will be able to mirror them.

      Yellow1 - 2011-05-21 21:42

      @Red26, you guys have no clue what makes a person intelligent and smart, right? If people donbt vote DA they're not using their mind, get over it. Most people have seen Cape Town, its clean and beautiful where you live and not where everyone else live. Untill DA delivers fully to the poor, you'll never rule the country. You will rule Western Cape only.

      KPActivities - 2011-05-22 08:52

      @motsokwane ,, I actually don't know why I am typing this, but I have to say your thickness of blindness is endless. You will have to answer to your children one day because a vote for the african national corruption party is running this country to the ground. Then there is this quote of yours,, " Until we have a political party that will attract and delegate all the races equally ,not only during the election period, then I will say we have arrive " Yes, singing of killing the minority and taking their land without compensation, taking,,,, taking,, taking, yes you arrived, from HELL.

      VM1 - 2011-05-22 11:36

      @Skrappie - skappie Thank God we have Julius Malema - we need him to sort out your kind but the difference between you and him - you only have your miserable friends and family to moan to - he has the whole country who see him on TV and the whole media is obsessed with him.

  • Yoda - 2011-05-21 21:00

    Now, if only we can ensure seperation of Church and State....good to go

  • gizzy - 2011-05-21 21:03

    What? The rest of the world are laughing at us! Where else in the world would a government that robs, steals, and lies get 61% of the votes? Where else in the world would a party as racist as the ANC even survive? Eish!

      Yellow1 - 2011-05-21 21:45

      where else in the world can a party which serves the minorityt and the wealth win elections? Where else in the world can a party that buy people with a Pick n Pay voucher to lie on national tv win elections? Eish!

  • Stevehofmeye - 2011-05-21 21:03

    It seems to me some people are frustrated by democracy?

      Unathi - 2011-05-21 21:14

      You seem to be frustrated, remember Madam was distributing takkies and bread in Cape Town to win votes. I things that is desperation. DA was voted by 1 357 949 people and ANC was voted by 731 247. We are going to work hard in the Western

      Unathi - 2011-05-21 21:15

      You seem to be frustrated, remember Madam was distributing takkies and bread in Cape Town to win votes. I things that is desperation. DA was voted by 1 357 949 people and ANC was voted by 731 247. We are going to work hard in the Western

      Unathi - 2011-05-21 21:16

      You seem to be frustrated, remember Madam was distributing takkies and bread in Cape Town to win votes. I think that is desperation. DA was voted by 1 357 949 people and ANC was voted by 731 247. We are going to work hard in the Western Cape and we only need 624 702 people to vote ANC and the province will be back in our portfolio.

      HopefulXpat - 2011-05-21 21:40

      Haha, Unathi. On your third attempt you finally got the fine art of commenting right! Congrats. 624 702 people... Wow, that is a lot of takkies and bread...

      World Traveler - 2011-05-21 22:23

      Of course! Those who cannot cut it are frustrated by democracy!!

      motsokwane - 2011-05-21 23:49

      Unathi,did she give them something to dunk the bread? I guess they won't be able to chew it.LOL.

      Boerseun - 2011-05-22 14:07

      One man one vote in a state so devided as RSA, can never be seen as true democracy. Soon, I forsee us having a two party system, with the problem that both are socialist, which always in the enhd lead to choas and civil war.

  • HopefulXpat - 2011-05-21 21:24

    Democracy? Yeah, right... In order to be counted as a democracy, you need voters who are lucid and informed about what they are voting for. Modern democracies feature frequent public debates between leaders to clarify and defend their policies against opposition, thus allowing every voter to make an informed voting decision. Malema refuses to debate Lindiwe. Zuma refuses to debate Zille. In South Africa, votes for the ruling party are cast based on dancing, struggle songs, empty promises, KFC food packs, baseless insults, toilets, forefather threats and most importantly... RACE. No, my friends, this is not a democracy. This is a joke. My sincere thoughts go out to Nelson Mandela. I hope he lives to see the day when South Africa becomes a true democracy. At the moment, the DA is the only party striving towards his vision...

      Yellow1 - 2011-05-21 21:47

      That should explain why Helen is dancing so much lately and distributing bread and Pick n Pay vouchers.

      VM1 - 2011-05-21 22:04

      Hopefull Shouln't you be learning ship shearing and herding skills - you will need them in Australia!!! and do not forget the friendly greeting - "gooday mate"

  • Stevehofmeye - 2011-05-21 21:26

    Unathi YOU are not clever. If you can't see that I'm replying to EXPAT, then maybe you should not use this forum. And by the way, why are you making noise about the distribution of bread in WC, when the ANC have used food parcels in the past?

      Yellow1 - 2011-05-21 21:48

      Is it true that DA distributed bread? Eish and tou claim the moral high ground, politics will always be politics.

      World Traveler - 2011-05-21 22:29

      @Yellow1 .... What have you been smoking?

  • Skrappie - 2011-05-21 21:45

    What I really don't understand is that uneducated people can decide who rules a country. Uneducated people who votes for a person because of his colour. Very very sad. Very very idiotic. Very very dangerous. Eventually...eventually something has got to give...

      tshamunwe - 2011-05-21 23:37

      Skrappie, you are really condescending. Do you think your education makes you more human than other human beings. For your own information, elections are all about voting political parties into office. A government is never meant for the educated only. It is for the ruling party to cater for the needs of all the citizens: educated and uneducated. In fact, which education are you refering to? I think all elections are preceeded by political education, the responsibilty of which lies on the political parties. Finally, it is quite regrettable that you deem your education to be so special that it reduces all the uneducated to a brainless mass incapable of choosing what is good for themselves.That one is uneducated does not mean they do not know what their communities need and which political parties can make their envisioned world become real. I hope you will never ever dare comment without having engage your mind first. Yours is very nauseating! This useless education you brag off, which makes you feel holier than the Pope.

      VM1 - 2011-05-22 11:36

      @Skrappie - skappie Thank God we have Julius Malema - we need him to sort out your kind but the difference between you and him - you only have your miserable friends and family to moan to - he has the whole country who see him on TV and the whole media is obsessed with him.

  • tshamunwe - 2011-05-21 21:52

    Indeed we are a mellowing democracy. We should proudly parade our successes to the whole world. Eventhough we are the youngest democracy in Africa, we remain a trend-setter to all and sundry. In most African countries you can hardly talk of election without inescapably mentioning prior and post election violence. More often than not, the post election violence degenerates into civil wars. In some instances, the presidents who lose elections never leave the presidency. This results in the formation of unnecessary coalition government. So, in our case we held our elections harmonious. We have nothing to fear about any possible rejection of election results by any political party. Of course, this success in the entrenchment of our democracies, does not roll in on the wheels on inevitability. It takes the IEC, the political parties, their leaders and the voters to get make democracy work. BRAVO!!!! SOUTH AFRICANS ARE WINNERS.

      Skrappie - 2011-05-22 09:54

      Like I said...very very idiot...and your comment just proved my point. Just remember, education does not always mean what you have studied etc. It also means you know what is going on out there and what the parties stand for. These people are voting because of colour and nothing else and you know it.

  • thobsion.ANC - 2011-05-21 22:11

    I know its hard truth but you gonnar have to live with it....ZINJA NDINI ZAMABHULU, MATHOLE KA PW BOTHA. TSEK

  • Expat - 2011-05-21 22:27

    @ Unathi - Thanks, It goes without question, I plan to do exactly that. Especially since it's precisely people like you that have no idea whatsoEVER waht real democracy actually means

      Dave Black - 2011-05-22 12:53

      So democracy is when your outcome is realised or something similar to your country's elections? I always thought it was about the will of the people - whatever that is!

  • World Traveler - 2011-05-21 22:31

    Democracy has won - Bam!! Bam! Bam!

  • United Shark - 2011-05-21 22:50

    Well done to the DA! I hope that they can do well in the Cape, so that the eyes of the people living in the townships and the poor open and more will support the DA. Believe it or not, the DA really wants to help the poor and they want to deliver services that will make the poor people happy and richer (while maintaining the living standards of the middle class and rich). The ANC is just providing services to themselves, the middle class and the rich. They are doing the absolute minimum for the poor! People, please think and please wake up. Vote for someone that can help you and improve your life-style, not for someone that has the same skin colour as you. In the end, we are all equal (all the races are equal in SA), but the differences lie in the wealth. Enrich yourself and vote for the DA!!!

      VM1 - 2011-05-21 23:05

      It is a trust issues Sharky a trust issue. The majority will still vote on skin colour . We might have forgiven but not forgotten. It will take sometime before we get there.

      United Shark - 2011-05-21 23:47

      Ok, fair point @VM1. I can understand that it takes a while to forget and I don't blame black people for needing more time. It's just a pity that there isn't another decent party with a black leader, coz the ANC is really so corrupted and they became a party that doesn't care about the poor. @VM1, what do you think if the leader of the DA was black? Do you think that that would be more convincing and trustworthy for the blacks?

      VM1 - 2011-05-22 09:49

      Sharky If there was a good black leader in opposition and he or she was vocal on certain issues like racism,police britality,unemployment,education and health. Not these leaders who only appear during elections. We would also look into where they come from as black is not skin colour but a frame of reference and a way of doing things. Maybe i can change my vote ! ! ! Helen and cew might come up with so many issues but I do not trust her and her team.

      croix - 2011-05-22 14:24

      @VM1 - Yet you 'trust' Zuma and his crew after MANY incidents of corruption and zero consequences for the perpetrators, many promises not kept, the state of roads/education/water/crime, and a lot of unhappy citizens who protested, and the BLATANT nepotism and cronyism happening and being exposed virtually on a daily basis? ASTOUNDING!

  • Wayne - 2011-05-22 06:52

    Only an ANC stooge with her hand firmly in Jacob Zuma's money pocket would say that...

  • Hadassah57 - 2011-05-22 11:08

    I thought the IEC was supposed to be neutral!!!!

  • Boerseun - 2011-05-22 14:04

    Bam, please state this under threat of perjury? I think you can and will not, so there is no lawfall truth in what you claim.

  • WeCanDoBetter.co.za - 2011-05-23 08:07

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  • Refilwemu - 2011-05-23 11:07

    IEC is a testimony of good leadership. Those black people running that organisation are needs to be congratulated for consistent good work. All the haters must go to the sea or Australia which ever is easier for them.

      Ac - 2011-06-01 06:07

      But don't you see? Good government needs criticism from the common folk, in what country in the world is EVERYBODY happy?? Good government should provide services (roads, education, utilities etc) at a minimum of cost (i.e. tax) and making as few people upset as possible, this, the ANC does not do. But neither would the DA... But saying that haters should go to the sea or Australia is backward thinking, if people didn't vote and have their opinions it wouldn't very well be voting would it?

      Ac - 2011-06-01 06:08

      But I do agree that the IEC is trying its best to do a good thing. Well done.

      The The - 2011-06-01 10:01

      Refilwemu, if all the "haters" had to leave this country you would be left with shit, exactly whats coming out your mouth.

  • jock van wyk - 2011-05-31 23:00

    the majority won you so called expert

  • umlaut - 2011-06-01 07:42

    Not really-not if the winning anc introduces undemocratic curbing of press freedom--the sign of a dictatorship in the making-and not if they want to hi-jack white businesses-and not when officials get away with corruption- and not when white farmers are discriminated against with disaster fund pay outs, only black farmers will get fund assistance.!!-and not when Black Empowerment is discrimnating against whites.

  • The The - 2011-06-01 09:56

    I think we need a recount!

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