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Drop in ANC support 'not Zuma's fault'

2011-05-24 11:01

Johannesburg - President Jacob Zuma cannot be held personally responsible for the ANC's drop in support in municipal elections last week, a party spokesperson said on Tuesday.

"There's been a lot said in the weekend media... the Sunday Times was even saying his [Zuma's] position for a second term has been weakened," said African National Congress spokesperson Brian Sokutu.

"However, whatever decisions the ANC takes, he [Zuma] also forms part of the collective. The three percent drop in the vote cannot squarely be put on Zuma alone."

South Africa held its fourth post-apartheid local government elections last week.

The ANC won 63.65% of the vote, the Democratic Alliance 21.97%, the Inkatha Freedom Party 3.94%, the National Freedom Party 2.58% and the Congress of the People 2.33%.

The DA gained support in eight out of nine provinces, while ANC support declined in most provinces, except KwaZulu-Natal.

In the last municipal elections in 2006, the ANC secured 66.3% of the vote and the DA 14.8%.

The ANC is set to hold its national congress next year, where its leader for the following five years will be elected.

Comments
  • Whistleblower - 2011-05-24 11:05

    The President forms part of the collective … Well then who is in charge?

      Jacques - 2011-05-24 11:32

      Guptas and the Shaiks... They are the puppet masters. Dance Zuma, dance!

      Together - 2011-05-24 11:35

      If neither he nor the collective can figure out what is really upsetting voters, then explaining about honesty and non-racist service to nation all over again will be a massive waste of time. And, if they can't manage the ANCYL, then they can't manage a nation - the people are beginning to realise this.

      Felix - 2011-05-24 11:36

      The Zulu's are highjacking the anc. If they don't get their way then KZN's votes will be lost bringing them under 50%.

      SaintBruce - 2011-05-24 11:38

      Everything rises and falls on Leadership. 'nuff said.

      Wharen - 2011-05-24 11:41

      On the money Jacques, I'm sure you can hear their voices in the Union buildings, "Dance monkey dance". Soon the Chinese will come with their whips as well, and our president will dance for their enjoyment.

      Red26 - 2011-05-24 11:50

      Here lies the crux of this organisations problem - no one is ever accountable nor responsible. This is why heads of parastatals and the like never resign - they just go on extended special leave at full pay.

      Shivermetimb - 2011-05-24 11:51

      The ANC made a big mistake in playing the race card. SA is now about blacks and non-blacks. Zuma was complicit in this because he had plenty of opportunities to pull Malema in line but he didn't. Having said that, I would rather see the whole party fall on its sword than have one sacrifical bull take the blame.

      clark - 2011-05-24 12:39

      - Zuma day's are numbered - his support base has thinned out and his leadership skills are non-existant. Big problem is however, which other Anc incompetent fool will replace him ?

      My2c - 2011-05-24 13:05

      dit is die voorvaders se skuld

      Whistleblower - 2011-05-24 13:19

      @SaintBruce Ja, but what if that Leadership was consulting the ancestors?!? If the Leader tells the people of Phola, there in Mpumalanga, that the ancestors are gonna kick their butt if they don’t vote for the tribe … thinking about it the 6% loss is the ancestors fault!

      World Traveler - 2011-05-24 13:56

      His wives! Poor hen-pecked Zuma.

  • Happy-go-lucky - 2011-05-24 11:06

    Wasnt HIS fault, but rather that short sh*t puppet of his (Malenima)

      Jelly - 2011-05-24 11:57

      Eish, it was the elders' fault! Dumb twat and his little braindead inkwenkwe side kick!

      Zanu - 2011-05-24 13:10

      100% Malema's fault! bloody racist.

      Kgomotso - 2011-05-24 13:34

      If you follow SA politics you should have realised long time that Malema has never being booed anywhere he addressed the mass. The drop is an attribute to formation of COPE and not DA secondly people deciding not to vote. Whites like you Happy-go lucky are Idiots and unable to see beyond their hate of Malema and generally Blacks.

      Realist - 2011-05-24 13:49

      Kgomotso, you clearly live in la la land and not in SA. 1 out of every 4 supporters who voted for the DA are black. The DA had increased its support base, while Cope has dwindled into insignificance. Shucks man, you must have come out of the current govt education system. Quick to yap, but no substance and fatally flawed.

      Felix - 2011-05-24 14:06

      Kgomotso, do all you Zanu guys have internet in Zim?

      Happy-go-lucky - 2011-05-24 14:15

      @Kgomotso: How do you know i am not black and just sick and tired of things going bust when ever my own kind touch things? Very quick to jump to conclusions arnt you? Please go hide in some hole

      Happy-go-lucky - 2011-05-24 14:31

      You see Kgomotso, SA wouldnt be in this mess if jobs were given to those people who have: 1: A genuine CV 2: A blind side to color 3: An IQ 4: No greed or hatred to another race. The communities 'electing' their representatives, doesn't work! What has that actually achieved?? infighting? corruption? murder? violence? If a person who actually DESERVED the job (regardless of skin), then things would run smoothly. Fair enough, 'the people' want their say, BUT it can only go so far. The jobs should be given to those who have the capability of management, NOT because they are black/white or coloured. The ANC are bringing this country to its knees, and Malenima is just waiting to chop its head off

  • Evan - 2011-05-24 11:10

    The drop is support is for a number of sound reasons, unfortunately the penny has not "dropped" for all who vote for poor service delivery and bad governance. As head of both the ANC and government how can it not directly or indirectly be his fault or are we being told that it is not his fault but the fault of his 'cronies'. How typical of Govt - people not taking responsibility and always trying to shift the blame!!!

      Bullit@24.com - 2011-05-24 15:41

      The pennies have been stolen and given to the cuzins

  • Mdavu-zn - 2011-05-24 11:10

    Lol you are you are a joke really. Then wht's the cause? make up your minds elders. That JZ will really turn apart that cANCer of you......you wait and see.

      Felix - 2011-05-24 11:30

      Oh I see the guy who was condoning the killing of 2yr old white girls is back.

      Mdavu-zn - 2011-05-24 11:45

      LOL FELIX

      Martin du Plessis - 2011-05-24 12:28

      Say what felix???

      Felix - 2011-05-24 12:39

      I would provide a link to the article regarding the trial of the farm murderers who executed a 2yr old girl and this chop commented something malemma would be proud of, but he deleted his comment like most trolls do once they hit about 200 thumbs down.

  • MetEishYa - 2011-05-24 11:11

    @Whistleblower - Exactly, he is the leader, he is accountable. End of story!

      50something - 2011-05-24 14:49

      Accountable is not a word the ANC understands

      Achmed - 2011-05-24 18:20

      There is no Pedi word for accountability, so it does not exist. Silience!! I ---- you.

  • daaivark - 2011-05-24 11:13

    Too right it isn't. It's all his pet appointees, their over-rich gravy and overflowing mouths.

      Huey Freeman - 2011-05-24 12:53

      Agree with you Martin. That preacher dude is a moron.

  • toxicated - 2011-05-24 11:14

    South africans are starting to realize that the ANC doesn't deserve our vote. the DA will unite south africa.

      Realist - 2011-05-24 12:37

      @Blaq You obviously havent noticed how many black people voted for DA? Its not about black or white, its about intelligent or stupid... Intelligent voter = DA Stupid voter = ANC Full Stop

      the_nazi - 2011-06-08 12:21

      @ Realist: not cool. Some of us smart people voted ANC coz we needed the political connections to acquire tenders, not because we are stupid. We make money while providing the few jobs we can, even employing "intelligent" people like yourselves who are pro-DA. Had i voted DA, that would be veeeeeeery stooooopid

  • Lab-Rat - 2011-05-24 11:14

    Maybe it's time to try a different tactic instead of racial politics?

      Ntebo More - 2011-05-24 11:23

      I second that,but some people are still going to give you thumbs down

      Rover_ZA - 2011-05-24 11:45

      Agreed.

  • CamsComment - 2011-05-24 11:17

    No! Its apartheids fault. Serious now - its the anc's fault

  • willieman - 2011-05-24 11:17

    The collective when it suits you.Zuma is not fit to lead he is just weak because of his arms deal case.The man is just a hostage,where ever he goes he promises everyone anything,he is just a pawn.The case in classic he supported no fly zone in Libya,now he cannot deal with the big boys in europe and america.No second term for him.

      Whistleblower - 2011-05-24 11:22

      Yip, so if Zuma is a pawn, I repeat my question … Who is in Charge?

      DeonL - 2011-05-24 12:01

      Maybe the Guptas and Chinese are in charge? Whistleblower.

  • anthro45@24.com - 2011-05-24 11:18

    It's never Zuma's or the ANC's fault. It's apartheids fault.

      Vernon - 2011-05-24 11:54

      Damn,what does the woodworker say.His been rather quiet......

  • jdeeathome - 2011-05-24 11:22

    lets see, corruption, unemployment, crime figures, poor service delivery, shitty schools below par medical services and incompetent leaders, these but to name just a few. for me the main cause was motor mouth malema

  • Yoda - 2011-05-24 11:23

    the drop is due to the "collective" poor performance and in particular at ground level where the average working person, middle class across all race are feeling the pinch and impact of poor service delivery. what should we expect in the build up to the next elections and especialy if DA and other parties continue to grow and capture disillusioned middle class.

  • JMan - 2011-05-24 11:24

    Wow. Of course he is responsible. He is in charge and ultimately makes the descisions of what goes and what not. Thats why is the party LEADER you chop!

  • gizzy - 2011-05-24 11:25

    The collective???? And when malema spews his mouth off he is an individual and does not represent the anc view. So what is it?????? The more they open their mouths the more they put their foot in it.

  • Gorilla - 2011-05-24 11:25

    Of course it's not his fault. He's only the president.

      World Traveler - 2011-05-24 14:10

      The president is a civil servant, how can a servant be responsible? The citizens are responsible for voting the anc in. That is called dem oc rac y . So just vote DA next time and viola, no anc!

  • kaja - 2011-05-24 11:26

    OH NO OF COURSE NOT!!!!!! WHO ON EARTH WOULD THINK THAT HE WAS IN ANYWAY RESPONSIBLE?????? STUPID!!!!!!!!!

  • SSRat - 2011-05-24 11:29

    It's the colonialists's fault! Everybody knows this - please. If not for the white man and his apartheid Mr. Zuma would long ago have received the Nobel Prize for world class leadership. Bloody agents!

      Voyager - 2011-05-24 12:04

      Now that is funny!! While you've got your head up there, say hello to Mr Poo.

      Yoda - 2011-05-24 12:43

      clearly and intellect of note...what a chop

      Realist - 2011-05-24 13:54

      Good sense of humour and sarcasm. Thanks for the laugh!

  • TheUgly - 2011-05-24 11:30

    Zuma is a very unethical man. Doesn't surprise me that he doesn't live up to his responsibilities.

      gizzy - 2011-05-24 11:34

      Too busy fornicating with all those wives and friend's daughters!!!!

      R.Suppards - 2011-05-24 14:31

      Zuma thinks ETHICS is an English County next to THUTHEX.

  • Julzh - 2011-05-24 11:32

    Hey JZ promiss all south african's a lot of things everytime he visits the people. Just like he'd promissed hiss buddies when he'd done the shady arms deal. He'd delivered to that deal but to south africans itself, that is a no-no.

  • whitesa - 2011-05-24 11:34

    so, it is the other persons fault !!!

  • M - 2011-05-24 11:35

    Well then the "collective" should be fired!!!!

      Felix - 2011-05-24 11:46

      I like it!

  • MrSpiderman - 2011-05-24 11:35

    I thought the anc said there was NO DROP IN SUPPORT!! No wonder no-one believes this government!

  • Vktt - 2011-05-24 11:35

    wat a disgrace coz he is part and parcel of the collective members being held responsible. He(Zuma)must check all things that r done in our municipality. He must show great leadership skill interms of being the head of the country

  • smahlaba - 2011-05-24 11:37

    This is an exciting article to the DA supporters. All politicians are corrupt in my books.

      gizzy - 2011-05-24 11:46

      How is it exciting to DA supporters? It's a sad indication of how corrupt and out of touch the anc have become. That can only be bad news for South Africans whether they voted DA,anc, ACDP, etc. We all lose when the man in charge can't GOVERN as he is meant to do.

  • Jakob - 2011-05-24 11:40

    i guess all the blacks didn't agree with kill all the whites?

      MrSpiderman - 2011-05-24 11:51

      Yip, kill 90% of the money-making machine (anc percentage) and back to a mud house with mealies planted around it!

  • windkind - 2011-05-24 11:46

    Perhaps if he showed some leadership, keeping a united front for the ANC and keeping that imbecile Malema in check, then there'd be a case for not blaming him. The reality is that he is not a leader's @sshole. He's a follower, a buffoon and a joke.

      Realist - 2011-05-24 13:56

      And thats putting it mildly. Whats even worse is all the jokes that vote for his party, and ultimately him. He really is one ugly mutherfkkker!

  • WhoGivesAshi - 2011-05-24 11:48

    It is 100% his fault for failing to deliver to the people!

  • Rijger - 2011-05-24 11:48

    Dear Dr Phil I have 5 wives and 23 children. I have just made love to my best friend's wife. Do you think I should marry her? Thanks Anonymous Dr Phil: Voetsek, Zuma, I know it is you!

      MrSpiderman - 2011-05-24 12:01

      Sorry Rijger, you should've started your content of the letter ... "I THINK I have ......"

      Rijger - 2011-05-24 15:05

      I think I agree, Spidey...

  • Lisa - 2011-05-24 11:49

    Then who is at fault. More and more people are starting to see that all the ANC does is enrich the few at the top. steal as much as possible and forget about the people who elected them. If the leasers were humble, spent less on opulent cars and hoses, fewer overseas trips there would be lots of money to feed, house and clothe the poor. what is wrong with a standard 3 bedroom house and an average car instead of wasting billions on fancy top of the range houses and card...

      Bernard - 2011-05-24 12:04

      It is not Zuma's fault. He only THINKS he is the President. Lisa maak volgende keer seker van jou spelling, jy slaan jou naam met'n plank.

  • sessisie - 2011-05-24 11:50

    A collection of idiots, I presume!

  • Annoy - 2011-05-24 11:54

    WELL BLAME IT ON J MALEMA

  • Dubya - 2011-05-24 11:56

    Sure, let's blame the weather instead.

      MrSpiderman - 2011-05-24 12:02

      No, no! The shortage of ballot papers!

  • kilo39 - 2011-05-24 11:56

    Typical comment.....no one willing to take responsibility for anything. I am just so sorry that the majority of their supporters still vote with their hearts.

  • ExRecce - 2011-05-24 11:56

    The drop in support must be blamed on apartheid and the whites sensitivity to racial matters........

  • JustinD - 2011-05-24 11:57

    It's the West's fault.

  • CraigColinRoyMcLeod - 2011-05-24 12:00

    I think it was a combined effort to be the laughing stock of governance (at least that's how the US other civilised countries see our banana republic). We cant even blame Malema because he says what the ANC demographic wants to hear, even if it is a recipe for zimbabwe or nigeria. The main reason is that 3% of the public managed to get a decent education despite the ANC. and those who are well educated/civilised, would never vote ANC.

  • Ray - 2011-05-24 12:01

    50% of the 3% = Zuma's fault 50% of the 3% = Malema's fault Was it just 3%? What-ever! Any backwards slide can be expected if your leaders have a historical criminal tendency. Nelson Mandela, Queen Elizabeth, and Vladimir Putin all die and go to hell. While there, they spy a red phone and ask what the phone is for. The devil tells them it is for calling back to Earth. Putin asks to call Russia and talks for 5 minutes. When he was finished the devil informs him that the cost is a million dollars, so Putin writes him a cheque. Next Queen Elizabeth calls England and talks for 30 minutes. When she was finished the devil informs her that cost is 6 million dollars, so Queen Elizabeth writes him a cheque. Finally Nelson Mandela gets his turn and talks for 4 hours. When he was finished the devil informed him that there would be no charge for the call and feel free to call South Africa anytime. When Putin hears this he goes ballistic and asks the devil why Nelson Mandela got to call South Africa free. The devil replied, "Since Jacob Zuma became president of South Africa , the country has gone to hell, so it's a local call."

  • Masese - 2011-05-24 12:01

    Brian Sokutu, people are getting fedup about these empty promises. Your JZ made so many promises to other and he even threatened people about ancestors if they do not vote for ANC. I was not intimidated by that because i do not believe in ancestors, so i voted against it. Now i know i do not have to blame it for lack of service delivery because i did not vote for it. I had to act fast before ANC produce another politically connected millionaire, in the name of "he has been a business man even before".

  • African'shtr - 2011-05-24 12:07

    Blame Madiba for that hahahahahahaha

  • ExRecce - 2011-05-24 12:18

    Let's examine the statement "He has been a businessman before" Before what?? And here the ANC makes us all believe that the whiteys denied black businessmen access to everything before '94??

  • DeonL - 2011-05-24 12:21

    A total drop of 2.6% is hardly any drop at all, could have been much worse was it not for the IFP and NFP infighting. DA can however be proud of theire growth.

  • GH - 2011-05-24 12:31

    Everybody told nobody that somebody was to blame. Bwhahahaha!

  • derkus - 2011-05-24 12:31

    blame Father Christmas

      Snys - 2011-05-24 13:23

      Blame the DA!

  • maseratifitt - 2011-05-24 12:34

    It will be a wonderful day when the ANC is something of the past and we have a President who stands and speaks for all South Africans.

      Realist - 2011-05-24 14:00

      It will be a wonderful day when the "president" is a thing of the past!

      World Traveler - 2011-05-24 14:27

      A real President! Yes! Zille for President!

  • daaivark - 2011-05-24 12:36

    The word "fault" implies something negative, so in my view it shouldn't even apply here. The drop in their support is a good thing.

  • Peter - 2011-05-24 12:37

    Malema should defintely bear the largest portion of the blame as South Africans are growing tired of his racist rants and empty promises. He is out of control and the electorate are becoming aware of this and are growing weary of a future containing South Africa's own Idi Amin or Robert Mugabe.

      scotty scotty - 2011-05-24 13:21

      i disagree, Zuma should. If and when Malema opened his mouth, Zuma should have told him to shut it, he is afterall the leader. When the 2 appeared together and Malema mouthed his racist rants, all Zuma did was smile and nod.

  • Currie_Mafia - 2011-05-24 12:39

    Zuma is part of the problem....Malema,Manyi,Cwele,Cele,Faku,Yengeni,etc etc,,just check your daily paper for the rest... Whilst the ANC's support didn't decline in KZN, 3 previously ANC Wards in Pmb are now DA...

      DW - 2011-05-24 13:07

      2 reasons why ANC gained in KZN - 1)Zuma is a Zulu - shows how much factionalism there is in ANC. They wouldnt vote for ANC until a Zulu was in charge. 2) IFP is falling apart and many are disillusioned (like those disillusioned with COPE). There is a new party which got a lot of votes, but many are not yet ready to vote for a new, unknown party. What this space in the next elections. If you negate the KZN difference, the ANC lost MASSIVE support in the country. We will see what happens next elections. Unless they start with REAL service delivery, they will get even less support then.

  • Trevor - 2011-05-24 12:42

    LMAO..who cares...with JZ and ANC in charge the MAJORITY of the black population will ALWAYS be 2nd rate citizens. You give a hungry dog a bone it is happy, it deserves to have a whole steak but keep it hungry & it will do as you say everytime....ANC does JUST that with it's supporters and they fall for it at every election. Like lambs to a slaughter, JZ and his benefactors live in a life of WESTERN STYLE "WHITE MAN" luxuary while the poor are happy for that bone...now and then they wear traditional clothing, dance the dance but that is very few and far between and that is just to keep the traditional side alive.....and you fall for it...what a joke...ANC supporters that take pot shots at the DA, scream race every bloody time they feel they losing....YOU are the biggest saps, your OWN ANC is taking you for a ride...so what do I care...be happy with your bone while my family enjoys the steak....VIVA ANC VIVA....you giving your people EXACTLY what they are asking for, and nothing more....VIVA

  • Romi Diamond - 2011-05-24 12:56

    News 24 your facts are wrong!!!! The correct result is DA 23,9% (NOT 21,9) and ANC 62% (NOT 63,65).

      World Traveler - 2011-05-24 14:31

      Guess who is Editor of News24? Jannie Momberg! Remember him?