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IEC turns to God for free, fair elections

2011-05-04 18:16

Mbombela - Nearly 50 different religious leaders in Mpumalanga will lead an interfaith prayer day on Saturday for "free and fair" local government elections on May 18.

The event, which will take place at the Nelspruit Rugby Stadium in Mbombela, is expected to attract more than 1 000 people.

"Over the past number of months, we have developed a strategic prayer strategy for the upcoming municipal elections.

"Our vision is to establish an effective and strategic prayer network across the province that will pray without bias or prejudice for God’s will, direction, and purpose to be accomplished during the elections," said provincial Independent Electoral Commission (IEC) spokesperson Sibusiso Nkosi on Wednesday.

Nkosi said the IEC opted for an interfaith prayer in order to accommodate different voices from different religious communities in the province.

He said religious leaders had a positive role to play in encouraging communities to participate peacefully in the elections, which will ensure that there are no disruptions or any violence.

"The most important fact we need to understand is that whatever the outcome of the elections, all our human hopes ultimately lie in God’s hands.

"So, we felt it was necessary to organise the prayer day to ask him to guide us," he said.

Nkosi said 11 gospel artists had been invited to entertain the crowd throughout the day.

He said the IEC generally expected the elections to go smoothly as there had been no reports of major incidents of violence associated with the upcoming elections, except for claims by the Democratic Alliance (DA) that the ANC was intimidating opposition candidates.

Sympathy

Provincial DA leader Anthony Benadie released a press statement last week claiming that the ANC sought to block DA electioneering activities and also threatened to kill DA candidates should they win the elections.

However, the ANC rubbished the claims and accused Benadie and the DA of using such claims as "strategies to gain public sympathy" because they knew they would not defeat the ANC in the elections.

Meanwhile, Benadie released a statement and photos on Monday, in which he accused ANC Treasurer General Mathews Phosa of attempting to disrupt a DA campaign in Matsulu.

Provincial ANC spokesperson Paul Mbenyane denied Benadie 's claims, saying the ANC had long planned its own campaign in Matsulu and that Phosa had a right to campaign anywhere in the province.

"We also had a right to campaign in Matsulu just like them, so it is not really fair for them to blame the ANC for their misfortunes in that township.

"The DA should realise that people in the townships will always see them as oppressors and they will always be sceptical about them. We will end up not responding to any DA allegations against the ANC because they are using us to boost their profile," said Mbenyane.

At least 18 parties and more than 46 independent candidates in the province are expected to contest the province's 18 local municipalities and three district municipalities.

Comments
  • Daveza - 2011-05-04 18:31

    Why do we constantly have this kind of rubbish. 11 gospel bands to entertain 1000 people - at the taxpayers expense ? A strategic prayer strategy - what the hell is that ?

      Busi - 2011-05-04 19:06

      The IEC will orchestrate a special pleading to an almighty invisible deity that impregnated a virgin so he could be born as his own son to go forth on a suicide mission to save his creations from himself hundreds of years after he tried to get every living species on earth into a single boat in order to commit genocide all because a naked rib-woman ate a magic fruit after she was convinced to do so by a talking snake. And all this in actually happening in the 21th century...

      zaatheist - 2011-05-04 19:40

      What a load of crap and stupidity. The concept of prayer is quite literally insane if you also believe in a God that knows everything. He knows in advance that you are going to pray, and of course he knows how he is going to answer it! Do they actually think that God will change his behavior as result of mumbling a few words?

      Michael - 2011-05-04 19:41

      @Davesa and associates, keep your rubbish to yourself. Do you really have to ALWAYS be negative. Your apartheid government splashed so many billions in keeping its policies alive whilst killing black majority. You never opened your stinking mouths obviously because you thought that would continue to eternity. All of a sudden you can spell words like "taxpayer's expense", "poor", etc. since 1994. Didn't you have those word in your vocabulary pre-1994? I am sick and tired of you hipocrites splashing your nonsense in this forum.

      Busi - 2011-05-04 20:14

      Lennox: you wrote "Sa is in such a mess because God has been taken out of the equation" Indeedm God has been taken out of the equation in Denmark, Sweden, Norway, Japan, Singapore, etc as well. This therefore explain why they are failed states and uncivilised lost barbarians... You have been thoroughly bamboozled by a delusion like the IEC until Jesus comes...

      Andrew - 2011-05-04 21:32

      What the f@ck is a strategic prayer strategy and what is it supposed to achieve? Can the IEC not employ a sane spokesperson?

      logical007 - 2011-05-05 12:47

      The problem with this prayer and gospel meeting is Zuma thinks his GOD - Statements made by him "a vote for ANC will be your way / ticket to heaven" If there is a God, wouldnt God decide who he wants in Heaven - Not ZUMA? Which means that The IEC is actually praying / singing to Zuma for free and fair elections, which is not going to happen If Zuma has anything to do with it.

      Rob - 2011-05-11 18:46

      @Buzi....I love it, the funniest thing I`ve read in a long time.

  • Virgil Snotter - 2011-05-04 18:37

    There's only one thing worse than politics and that is religion, holier than thou politicians are even worse than priests trying to be politicians, e.g. Clown Tutu

      Yoni - 2011-05-04 19:24

      Tutu is a big supporter of interfaith meetings. If you have any respect and belief in your religion you won't be praying with the other followers in the first place. Tutu is a false priest and I hope he only uses taxi transport from now on.

      Rudolfes - 2011-05-06 18:20

      Well said. Let’s forget about our egos and remember why it is that we came to the conclusion that religion is worse! It is not a matter of pointing to one another, then we certainly are on the same side anyway.

  • CPII - 2011-05-04 18:48

    What the hell(no pun intended) has God to do with it? What if the DA have major wins? Will they, ANC, then say, "Let God's wish prevail. We'll accept the outcome". Like my ass they will :) Most of them are atheists in any case!

      Educated - 2011-05-04 19:25

      What nonsense. If most of them were atheists then they would be able to think for themselves. I can assure you, most politicians are religious.

      CPII - 2011-05-05 14:30

      @E....he he he...stru....they absolutely believe in all the BS they propegate!

      Rudolfes - 2011-05-08 06:48

      He he he.

      Rob - 2011-05-11 18:50

      @ educated..."Most politicians are religious"..... Finally, now I understand the problem we have.

  • rusteemax - 2011-05-04 18:56

    Well, this is good news!!! Now that god is involved, it is impossible for the elections to not be "free and fair"!!! ....but, wont this conflict with all the people who are not going to vote ANC and are in turn going to hell? Just saying...oh, I nearly forgot about my favourite quote from the article: "Startegic Prayer" LMAO!!!

  • Valis - 2011-05-04 18:58

    Oh FFS! What's up with this superstitious nonsense? Why don't we ask Santa Claus to rain presents down upon us? Because he doesn't exist! Same with your gods, they don't exist. Also, they say interfaith, how many Satanists will be taking part? How about Wiccans? Or Zoroastrians? Their beliefs are just as valid.

      Busi - 2011-05-04 19:10

      When a lot of people believe in the existence of an unprovable, unobservable and hearsay entity we call it religion; When only a select few believe it, we call it superstition cult or culture; When very few or an individual believe it, we call it a delusion, madness or evil.

      danman - 2011-05-10 15:40

      I'll rather wake up after death believing in God and found out He didn't exist than wake up not believing in God and He do exist. Stop attacking the Christian religion. It's your right not to believe, I don't attack you!!

  • Jeremy - 2011-05-04 18:59

    Why cant they pray to God to abolish Flu this winter?

      Busi - 2011-05-04 19:11

      yes, and why wont god heal amputees?

  • Monica - 2011-05-04 18:59

    There will never be fair elections in this country as the ANC target the illeterate black people and tell them lies about giving them a house. After 17 years; most municipalities are bancrupt and most houses that has been build cannot be lived in or have problems. May God be with you in your prayers and pray for the corruption and evil deeds of some people in this country! Start with the 10 commandments and let your servents of the country live to that!

      Damask - 2011-05-05 08:54

      *illiterate *bankrupt *built *servants PLEASE SPELL CHECK

      Blikskottel - 2011-05-11 11:09

      There never has been a free and fair election since 1994. AN acid test for 1999 election. The Independent Electoral Commission (IEC), who organised everything, were astonished to find the computer giving a total of 15 977-million voles, and they checked thoroughly before announcing that only 14 257-million voting papers had been given out to voters, and that this was the maximum number that could have been counted at the polling stations. In fact, a conservative estimate of spoilt papers would be 57 000 (0,4%), implying a maximum, count of 14,2-million. http://www.aitup.org.za/ please go and read the truth...

  • Kobus - 2011-05-04 19:02

    We already know that only those voting for the ANC will go to heaven. There have already been examples of intimidation, such as Malema and the Limpopo premier (Cassell whatever) hijacking a meeting to preach holier-than-thou politics (their children will piss on the graves of those who vote other than ANC). Typical African politics practised by political dwarfs....

  • Motho - 2011-05-04 19:14

    Why would Phosa go so low, i.e. disrupting DA campaigns?

      Busi - 2011-05-04 19:21

      Because this fat cat deployed cadre comrade fears a stronger DA will successfully undermine his perks (e.g. his Mercs, his driver, butler, official residence, the gravy train and the more recent gravy planes). Capeesh?

      Educated - 2011-05-04 19:31

      Because he's from team anc who abandoned ethics a long time ago in a desperate attempt to win votes?

  • zaatheist - 2011-05-04 19:40

    What a load of crap and stupidity. The concept of prayer is quite literally insane if you also believe in a God that knows everything. He knows in advance that you are going to pray, and of course he knows how he is going to answer it! Do they actually think that God will change his behavior as result of mumbling a few words?

      Busi - 2011-05-04 20:26

      Reading the Bible has taught me two things: 1) We are wicked, selfish, abusive degenerates worthy of eternal damnation and torture. 2) We are created in God's image."-- Mike Bolin

      Amazonia - 2011-05-05 07:53

      Yes, God will have mercy to the humble and answer their prayers but resist the proud.

      nick - 2011-05-05 10:40

      Yawn 'zaatheist'..... your comments are always so weak ..... no matter what anyone says about God, you have a dull retort .... do you think your comments are going to get you into the leadership of athiesm .... think again, because you aren't even at the starting blocks !!

      capetonian - 2011-05-09 13:16

      The reply to zaatheist by Nick refers; if you need more detail on the subject (Atheism) I can suggest you go to some of the websites e.g. Richard Dawkins, or watch some of the debates between Christopher Hitchens and many religious representatives to understand just how pathetic the whole business of "god" is!!

  • Balstrome - 2011-05-04 19:44

    Which god? Baal? Jesus? Krishna? Allah? Joseph Smith? Yahweh? or one the hundred thousand other gods mankind has created?

  • 4theLoveof theTruth - 2011-05-04 19:44

    INTERFAITH !!! = ONE WORLD RELIGION !!! Be sure it is happening faster than we think. We cannot stop it, it is the Will of God. I pray that Jesus comes soon to fetch His children (Church). God have mercy on us.

      Busi - 2011-05-04 20:19

      Lovie, I need advice please: I had children only because I wanted them to serve and worship me. I told my children never to touch the fruit bowl. They were naughty and touched it though, so I threw them out in the middle of winter and cursed them to suffer horribly for the rest of their lives, and for all subsequent generations to suffer also. I forgave them by sending my newest child to them to be tortured and murdered. Am I a bit sick?

      Busi - 2011-05-04 20:29

      Agteros, Prayer works! "I prayed to god for a parking space and got one! If only those staving abused Hatian children knew how wonderful god is."--Terran Perro

      Doublepost - 2011-05-04 21:04

      @ Busi Yes you are, however, I believe Africans do this to their children day in and day out. Nothing new there! And yes I do know you are referring to Adam and Eve(or is it Steve?) and the apple from the tree of knowledge. However, that seemed boring so I went straight for Continentalism instead!

      ParoNoid - 2011-05-04 21:49

      Jesus was jewish christainity the most dumbest of all cause it is the most obviously made up!!!

      Blikskottel - 2011-05-11 11:10

      You saw the threat clearly.

  • dot.smit45 - 2011-05-04 19:58

    Tank You GOD, that there are still people in SA that know that they are in need of Your intervention in our land! Bless all who will be praying for this upcoming election. And all who are spitting out these blasphemous words about the ALMIGHTY GOD.......take note.....ONE DAY EVERY KNEE SHALL BOW AND EVERY TONGUE SHALL CONFESS THAT JESUS CHRIST IS LORD!!

      Busi - 2011-05-04 20:19

      Dot, I need advice please: I had children only because I wanted them to serve and worship me. I told my children never to touch the fruit bowl. They were naughty and touched it though, so I threw them out in the middle of winter and cursed them to suffer horribly for the rest of their lives, and for all subsequent generations to suffer also. I forgave them by sending my newest child to them to be tortured and murdered. Am I a bit sick?

      ParoNoid - 2011-05-04 21:47

      so all who dont believe in christ go to hell?? Jesus was jewish, christianity was written over a 100 years after he died aswell and what for it, JESUS NEVER ONCE not ONCE denounced judaism so as far as im concern all those who dont believe in your jesus are atleast some what right as yours is the most recent made up of all religions as well as the most corrupt where people do nothing but lie and pretend to be priest to further their own agendas. i have over 300000 different denominations of your so called church all preaching different messages and people who say different things from different gospels and you know what they are one of the highest earning non tax paying non contributing to soceities they are in america... so for what i see it is a bunch of businessmen pretending that this so called "god" wants you to make them rich and all you people do is pay up and pray up for nothing more than a warm feeling in your chest.. but you know what when you day final comes and you about to take your last breath, it isnt your judgement day but your time to rot in the ground for all enternity with no salvation or damnation..

      Damask - 2011-05-05 09:03

      While I agree with your last sentence dot, take note that this is an interfaith meeting. These prayers will not be conducted by true believers in Christ. Judging by the hatred spewing from those commenting, this "strategic prayer strategy" is only serving to further misrepresent true Christianity. The IEC clearly is not independent, as they are using the same ANC tactics of blasphemy to further their own cause. They will all be held accountable one day. The ANC continuously blasphemes against Jesus, because they know that while Christians will be outraged, who will really do anything about it? This saddens me. Now lets see what happens if Zuma says that Allah has endorsed the ANC and the men will go to heaven and get 72 virgins if they accept the yellow tshirt.

      Carl Muller - 2011-05-05 10:06

      Agree with Paronoid....

      capetonian - 2011-05-09 13:24

      "God is Not Great - Religion poisons everything". Read the book dot.smit45! You might learn about REAL truth and ENLIGHTENMENT instead of the puerile babble spouted by mostly cynical religious opportunists. If you continue to hear voices in your head suggest you visit a psychologist for counselling.

      oxygen - 2011-05-11 17:06

      Oh vomit.

  • RationalistPabi - 2011-05-04 20:06

    The characters and events depicted in the bible are fictitious. Any similarity to actual persons,living or dead, is purely coincidental.

      Blikskottel - 2011-05-11 11:10

      That has been proven not correct.

  • maseratifitt - 2011-05-04 20:16

    The IEC is obviously trying to camouflage its ANC puppet string. Whatever fraud and underhanded business goes along with the voting : remember it is God's will. So they soften up the believers.

  • ParoNoid - 2011-05-04 21:40

    I don't understand, when has praying to this so called god ever helped if something goes right it is his doing but if its wrong it isn't his doing, would be so nice to see a world without religion, Why must they pray to their christian "god" for help when there are thousands of other of theses made up deities?? if "god" did exist why are starving children dying all over the world with no help and the wickedest are thriving off the sweat and lives of the poor!!!!! can people just see there is no "god" there is no mighty help but to help yourself!!! Anyways, why don't these clergyman pray for priest to stop fondling children?? Or Muslims to stop terrorising? Or Israeli's to stop oppressing?? Funny but for all i can see the most wrong and damage done to this world is purely from the hand of those who have "god" on there side

      capetonian - 2011-05-09 13:35

      You are expressing what more and more thinking people all over the world are feeling. Man made god in his image, not the other way around. Born out of superstitious ignorance, it just goes to show the power of persuasion religion has especially when Islam and the RC's version of Christianity is literally brainwashed into children from the moment they can read. NO child should be exposed to any religious doctrine. That choice should be theirs to make as ADULTS! Then you would see a dramatic shift in the influence of "god" over the affairs of mankind. Unfortuneately those in the business of religion know this and it is going to be a long and hard battle!

  • hemingwodebeck - 2011-05-04 22:30

    strategic prayer strategy- lols!

  • SAROCKSOK - 2011-05-05 05:41

    Why don't they just get off their backsides, work harder, and just make sure that it will be a free and fair election. Or is that too much to ask for?

      Tieneke - 2011-05-05 08:49

      You see, now, if the election is a cock-up, they can say it was Gods will. Who want to work for their salaries these days? Just pass the buck to the invisible, unproved nothingness and the day will be saved......By the way, I am an atheist.....

      logical007 - 2011-05-05 12:41

      Halleluah, AMEN to that!

  • Nigel_Brown - 2011-05-05 09:40

    God can not be understood by humanbeings. The scriptures through out time, from all religions where for the purpose of trying to explain God to the people of that time and culture. They teach us of something greater than ourselves and to aspire to be better people, to evolve our minds and the whole human psyche. Our brains even have a certain section dedicated to spirtual experiences and belief. Religion has been tainted with mans disires of greed,dominace, ect. The only message of all religion is to better ourselves and of love. God is not there to answer our earthly needs but rather our souls needs. It's up to us to prove we are worthy and capable, it's our test...it's up to us. If you have abandoment issues, don't blame God. Your ish is your own ish, so ask for help and sort yourself out. Just coz you don't belive gives you no right to insult what you don't YET understand.

      Busi - 2011-05-05 14:48

      Nigel, As far as I can establish, your God is based on: 1) hearsay stories, in turn based on 2) interpretations of 3) the myths of 4) a primitive bronze-age tribe of goat herders It is about a cosmic Jew (who was his own father) can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a naked rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree. If you FACTS to the contrary, please share it with me and mankind in genenral. If not, it remains a fairy tail delusion. Theology is the study of a book much like Harry Potter, except they haven't realized it's science fiction yet."--Dave Morris

      capetonian - 2011-05-09 13:43

      Busi, you are wasting your time arguing with people like Nigel Brown. The best way that I can put it is like trying to explain to a colour blind individual what the real colour is....We have looked into the far depths of the Universe, we have looked into the smallest particles: still can't find any evidence of god. But up until quite recently the churches knew where god was - up there in the heavens - and hell was down below. They just keep moving the goalposts don't they....

      danman - 2011-05-10 15:56

      Busi & capetonian, I repeat - I'll rather wake up believing and find out there is no God than wake up not believing and GOD IS. I agree Nigel, these children must first grow up and do an indepth study on Christianity before trying to insult us. Busi, maybe you must first stop reading your comic books and go and read up more on all the evidence that the Bible is true. Still the best seller of all books.

      Blikskottel - 2011-05-11 11:12

      @Busi: There is no way goat herders could ever write something like the Bible and keep the story perfectly alighned over thousands of years. Not even modern goat herders like Malema can...

      Nigel_Brown - 2011-05-12 14:34

      Busi who said I am christian bud. I respect and belive in most on the religions in the world. I have done extensive study on most. Forget about all the things you don't understand (or find somebody to explain it to you as some of that stuff is very strange) and look at the MESSAGE of these teachings, imagine how awesome we could be as humankind. Capetonian do not assume we know about the universe...we have no idea. Every time we look deeper into space or matter the mysteries become even greater. Besides God is not hiding in some nebula out in space, God is everything, everything in a way we can not understand. We only have material brains to reason with and that just won't cut it when talking of God. Just live your life right and try humbeling yourself by considering something Greater than you. When you are ready God will call on you, God wants us all...give it time you will grow.

  • brown_bread - 2011-05-05 09:51

    Now this is the kind of thing that makes me wonder how long it will take for mankind to man up and grow a pair, take responsibility for our actions! Would the elections mysteriously be free and fair if we all knelt down and asked? For all we know, half the people will be praying that they should not be, now how the hell do we know who will be listened to..? The poor must all be atheist and heathens, otherwise they'd easily kneel down and ask for food and that fire stays away from their shack.

      nick - 2011-05-05 10:48

      Don't underestimate the Power of God's love for you and all mankind....He WILL hear the prayers of the righteous....even it is just one person !!

  • GREEN BEAN - 2011-05-05 10:45

    The people who got very little or no service delivery from ANC run local authorities should rather pray to God that their ANC brothers and sisters do not get elected again, because very little is going to improve for them with the ANC in power. Viva la DA !

  • logical007 - 2011-05-05 12:48

    The problem with this prayer and gospel meeting is Zuma thinks his GOD - Statements made by him "a vote for ANC will be your way / ticket to heaven" If there is a God, wouldnt God decide who he wants in Heaven - Not ZUMA? Which means that The IEC is actually praying / singing to Zuma for free and fair elections, which is not going to happen If Zuma has anything to do with it.

      ParoNoid - 2011-05-05 19:07

      Lets keep this to the god bashing it is, as nothing is wrong with ripping apart ignorant people who believe in fairy tales but to be ignorant about a man who is alive and for all i can see isnt so bad, yes the party might for a bit be misdirected from a old struggle cause (against a boer regime that thought they had the right of god on their side to do what they did btw) to a profit focused organisation but that should come right, our country is getting smarter and they wont just vote for an ANC that many still see as Madela' ANC because it is the ANC for much longer, but please dont be ignorant yourself and say zuma will rig the election, comments like that that grind me more than fairy tale belivers, btw i am 23 year old white male, incase those racists out there think that im just a racist black (which i have been mistaken on other forums voicing similiar views)

      ParoNoid - 2011-05-05 19:08

      just to add if Zuma could rig the election dont you think they would some how think to make cape town an ANC muncipality, just putting a thought out there seems reasonable

  • jaime.moss - 2011-05-06 18:39

    Christianity is about faith. If you don't have it, you won't get it

      Tooth Fairie - 2011-05-07 16:08

      I get it!! Faith is to believe in something without proof. If there was proof, it would have been called a fact, not faith anymore. ALL religions are built on faith and cannot survive without it. The more incredulous and the less evidence for the things you believe in, the better a believer it makes you. In the same way - If a healing technique is demonstrated to have curative properties in properly controlled double-blind trials, it ceases to be “alternative medicine” . It simply becomes medicine. What is delusion Jaime Moss!! Check this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jk6ILZAaAMI

  • CyberDog - 2011-05-09 08:16

    "The DA should realise that people in the townships will always see them as oppressors". Why do the ANC always make the township people out to be completely retarded. These people are not dumb enough to still buy into the whole oppressor crap, so enough of the ANC propaganda crap already... jeez, the level of lies, intimidation and propaganda coming from the ANC is really pathetic. They are poor, not dumb... Wake up ANC!!!

  • Taurusaurus - 2011-05-09 10:05

    "[...] we have developed a strategic prayer strategy [...]" - and what a strategy that must be! :)

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