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In defeat, Ehrenreich looks to 2014

2011-05-20 07:15

Cape Town - Facing defeat in the Cape Town mayoral race, ANC candidate Tony Ehrenreich on Thursday night hinted that he may run for premier of the Western Cape in 2014.

"It's not up to me to say I'm going to run for premier but I think the ANC in the province now really has to look towards 2014 and I am certainly prepared to play my part," he told Sapa as the DA held to a lead of more than 70% in the city with about three-quarters of the vote consolidated.

Ehrenreich, also Cosatu's Western Cape secretary, said he believed the ANC's score would grow as counting continued on the Cape Flats but conceded that the party had failed to win coloured voters away from the Democratic Alliance.

"I don't think we were going to be able to turn around traditional support to other parties so quickly," he said, adding that people were still voting according to "apartheid faultlines" in the province.

"Coloured areas voted for the DA. So that must tell you that in coloured areas people feel scared and more secure with people who had traditionally given coloureds a better deal."

He conceded that government spokesperson Jimmy Manyi's controversial comments that there was "an over-supply of coloureds" in the Western Cape, may have harmed the ANC's chances of swinging votes among the province's biggest community.

But, said Ehrenreich, he did not regret refusing to run a campaign that targeted specific race groups.

"I'm not going to be pandering to that type of racial division."

Integrated communities

Ehrenreich added that it was clear that the people in the wealthy suburbs, where the DA enjoyed overwhelming support, were not prepared to support somebody who wanted to build integrated communities.

He said he regretted that his campaign got underway late because he would have liked to reach more communities but had no regrets about repeatedly calling on the wealthy to share resources and vowing to build low-cost housing in leafy suburbs like Constantia.

"They are copping out of the '94 deal to do away with the legacy of apartheid and holding on to ill-gotten gains - because if you were privileged by apartheid those are ill-gotten."

Ehrenreich said he did not believe the DA would make good on its promises to deliver to the poor and the ANC would use the next three years to come up with alternative solutions to delivery problems.

The party needed to rebuild trust in the province, he said.

"We come from a very difficult time in the ANC when we were deeply divided and not focused on the needs of communities."

He reiterated that he would serve as a councillor in the Cape Town metro, though the mayoral seat was clearly going to his DA rival, Patricia de Lille.

"It's a question of political integrity, people voted for me so I must take up my seat."

Comments
  • thefeather - 2011-05-20 07:33

    Get stuffed Tony...all humble in defeat when you were aggressively slagging everyone off in the lead-up to the elections, you hypocritical spineless moron. Crawl back in your hole you worm.

      saabnut - 2011-05-20 07:48

      Looking to 2014... I think he has a better chance of finding a non- corrupt ANC!

      Wow! - 2011-05-20 07:52

      I am with you on this.

      saabnut - 2011-05-20 07:53

      "...people in the wealthy suburbs, where the DA enjoyed overwhelming support, were not prepared to support somebody who wanted to build integrated communities." Correction! Many of these people have earned what they possess through honest, hard work, and refuse to adopt the sense of entitlement being incalcated by the alliance, which is directly leading to all the service delivery dissatisfaction. Definitely NOT rocket science- just simple logic...

      allie - 2011-05-20 07:56

      Tony, by 2014 you would have disapeared,you racist.

      Felix - 2011-05-20 08:03

      He is quite correct, all the pretty houses and suburbs of all our cities were built during apartheid. I suggest we carpet bomb our cities to dust and start building them again. Tony you Tool

      Mikus - 2011-05-20 08:25

      "Tony, you are the weakest link.....goodbye"

      Mikus - 2011-05-20 08:27

      -or maybe,"Hey Tony, you're the missing link.....hello"

      BigMoose - 2011-05-20 08:36

      Tony, you've had your chips, now eat your humble pie, without the gravy. Save a slice for Marius.

      Loud n Clear - 2011-05-20 08:55

      These arrogant, incapable tossers have the audacity to be looking at leadership positions in 2014 while their organisations resemble a shared township toilet.

      Sam - 2011-05-20 09:41

      ITS REALLY REALLY CHEAP COMING FROM PHONEY TONY WHEN HE SAYS COLOUREDS VOTED FOR THE DA...JUST TO ENLIGHTEN YOU TONY, THE ANC PICKED YOU TO RUN AS MAYOR FOR THEM BECAUSE YOU ARE COLOURED. THE DAME DONE BY JIMMY MANYI TO THE ANC IN THE WESTERN CAPE RESULTED IN MANY PEOPLE SEEING THE ANC FOR WHAT IT IS...SO GET OFF YOUR HIGH HORSE, YOU SELF RIGHTOUS PLONKER AND GET WITH THE PROGRAM!! AND DONT THINK THINGS WILL BE MUCH DIFFERENT IN 2014!!

      Enough! - 2011-05-20 13:04

      Though he a leader in his own right but when i heard about his letter to the city of cape town about using and demanding the cape town stadium for his rally and threathning to make the city ungovernable if he can't get it i had to change my mind! And his whole campaign about low cost housing in Constantia! i have no problem with that what so ever and is there already many such areas in cape town where poor and rich next to each other but to build an campaign about and around that? Not to smart! There a lot more issues to look at and that need attention! Also to claim Cape Town the most racist city! Nonsense! Sure the racist all over country wide but look what has happened! Coloured, white and black voted for the same party unlike like any other province in South Africa! Think the ANC leaders are so out of touch what is happening here! And we should know cause we live here and I'm seeing the change and race relations! More and more good will abound but sure there a few racist that wouldn't want to see the progress and still blinded by their misconseptions which I think Tony should really go think about! To have made out that all whites also racist and without compassion standing in the way of reconsiliation was SAD and cost him much! I voted DA all the way for the very first motivated mostly because of the race card the ANC always play, Malema and soaring corruption and theft!

  • joe - 2011-05-20 07:36

    Ehrenreich must understand that he and his party are not welome in CT. They must first change from a liberation movement to a true political party and get rid of rubbish such as Manyi before the people of CT will even give them a second thought. The rest of SA might one day also wake up.

      capecrowley - 2011-05-20 07:53

      Joe we must not stoop to the ANC's anti-democratic level of debate. We must invite and welcome the ANC to compete for votes in DA. We all know we have little to worry about. Perhaps they will learn a view things about clean governance and civicmindedness, and share it with their overlords at Luthuli House: 'This is how you govern a city!"

      capecrowley - 2011-05-20 07:54

      Of course, not 'in DA', I meant 'in CT'.

      joe - 2011-05-20 08:04

      @capecrowley In a normal political landscape you would obviously be correct. However, these fools dish up a brand of politics so far removed from normal, that the mere fact of their "participation" constitutes an affront to any democrat and thus renders them unwelcome, in my humble view.

      Daan - 2011-05-20 08:09

      Tell them Joe! But as long as the gravy train winks at them, they will try. After all, by 2014, CT will be the only place where there will be any money left to "utilise" !

      capecrowley - 2011-05-20 08:10

      They are no worse than the republicans in the US. They peddle in fear and mistrust, and sometimes they win. I think with a successful city government, Capetonians' sunny disposition will be a powerful counterbalance to this age-old tactic.

  • Zion - 2011-05-20 07:43

    Notice the perpetual references to apartheid and racial issues. Where does this clown come from, he has that typical arrogant attitude that he was right all along while the electorate was wrong to disregard him. The fact as become so obvious that the only engine that can drive the ANC is the racial one coupled to apartheid. Indeed, apartheid has become a straw to the drowning ANC. J8ust another bad loser.

      saabnut - 2011-05-20 07:51

      That's only because he wants to keep his fancy position in COSATU, feeding off the gullible- typical hypocrisy. I wonder if all his clothes are locally manufactured, and if he refuses to purchase imported pasta sold at Checkers?

  • Rob Gunning - 2011-05-20 07:43

    Tony, your are an apartheid faultline. Go back to wherever you came from you commie trade unionist you.

  • dirk.bester - 2011-05-20 07:44

    "It's a question of political integrity" ... joke

  • Andries - 2011-05-20 07:46

    The question should not be 'apartheid fault-lines', but who has been delivering services to their communities. People look to provinces and see that capetown has been much more successful in delivering services than other areas. Mr Ehrenreich should be more concerned about providing for the areas where his party has control than attempting to run the entire country under the rule of one party. That is the essence of democracy.

      Zion - 2011-05-20 08:46

      Mr Ehrenreich is more interested in providing for himself. In 2014 He will be back to stand for premier. Or so he says.

  • Juliarse - 2011-05-20 07:49

    Sorreeeee Tony Toet...

  • gizzy - 2011-05-20 07:54

    When is his twally going to learn that the people of the WC aren't sheep. The more the ANC uses the race card the more the people move away from the ANC. We have long memories and are fed up with being told that the WC is the most unequal and the most racist. We voted against the Nats during apartheid and will vote against the ANC for the same reason i.e. nationalism! We have always been a thorn in the side of the government and so it will remain!

      Anthony - 2011-05-20 13:57

      ...Ja, that is quite true, during the “old regime” Cape Town was always in opposition to that government and we were called liberals and communists, now the New Government refer to us as racist and right-wing capitalists, so what is new....WELL DONE CAPE TOWN VOTERS

      Koos - 2011-05-27 15:59

      bullshit, Cape-Town is most racist city in South Africa, I DON'T CARE whatever you can try to make us believe, coloureds have always have sympathy with whites so its not suprising that they vote for white party, those cape coloureds are so watered down its unbelievable,Cape-Town is not multi racial city,London is multi racial that is what is called multi racial not Cape-Town, and i been there few times, Durban is more multi racial than Cape-Town

  • M - 2011-05-20 07:55

    Ah-hah, so is his only in it to serve himself!

      tryanything - 2011-05-20 20:29

      African self help association

  • Puffudder@24.com - 2011-05-20 07:56

    Dear Mr. Ehrenreich, Best you either see the light, or make that 2000andnever. If you're anything like your anc comrades, methinks it'll be the latter. Good luck with that. Sincerely.

  • Shannon - 2011-05-20 07:58

    Agh Tony please stop it now – the only fight the ANC can fight is the racial one – as if the DA created the Apartheid war this was done so by the NP – Helen Zille fought just as hard as the coloured and Indian communities as the blacks did for liberation …. You talk about Cape Town being a divided city but yet we are the best run City in the country…. Let Hellen run the country for 5 years and see what a difference she will make – when we talk about service delivery on the ANC metropole’s they always come up with the excuse that we are in the infancy of our democracy and these things take time – however you want to point fingers at the DA who keeps on bringing the cities they run out of debt and providing proper services.

  • Jacques - 2011-05-20 07:58

    Why must the ANC alwas blame apartheid. It has been 16 years. Stop blaming the past and accept that the country is in its current state because of your failure to govern properly. Just because I am white does not mean I beniffited from apartheid, though I am now suffering due to employment equity, BBEEE, etc, then you threaten the colored commuinties jobs. THAT IS WHY YOU LOST NOT BECCAUSE OF RACIALISM OR APARTHEID. YOU RASCIST IDIOT.

      chinyoli - 2011-05-20 08:23

      Because the wound is till very fresh jacques, its ok for jews to blame germans forever and not ok for hutus to blame tutsis, blacks to blame boers!!! Why, because a black life is less important ?

      Other Justin - 2011-05-20 09:05

      @chinyoli - If you read your history correctly, you will notice that the Jews and the Germans are best of friends. Germany is one of Israel's closest allies. The Hutus and the Tutsis are mending their country, and if you read correctly, not all Hutus killed and maimed, there are Hutu heros amoungst the Tutsis. Besides for this whole story, you cannot compare Apartheid to the attempted GENOCIDE of Jews and Tutsis, more people die from crime related deaths every year than during the whole of the Apartheid era. What was done in the past was a grave injustice, but it is time to move on. NEVER forget, but STOP LIVING IN THE PAST AND MOVE FORWARD! My generation and the subsequent generations never had anything to do with Apartheid, we went to school with black, indian and coloured kids who had the same educational opportunities as the white kids. I live in a house that I paid for myself with the banks help. Should I feel guilty because I live in a house paid for by myself from a job I got myself with an education that I paid for myself from low paying bottom feeder jobs I started off with? I think not.

      Lauren - 2011-05-20 09:06

      Chinyoli, not at all. But keep it in context then. The ANC cannot simply pull out that card EVERY SINGLE time they are backed into a corner or lose on an issue (such as Cape Town in this instance). If you cry about something so many times and try and use it to justify too many things, the meaning of it becomes hollow. People stop listening to the same old tune. So, no, a black life is not less important, but the memory is being cheapened now, because it's used to fight so many battles, even battles where it is not relevant.

      Colin - 2011-05-20 09:35

      I think there is a subtle difference between Genocide and oppression... Of course if you cant fathom the "nuances" try googling.

  • Fanie - 2011-05-20 08:05

    Ehrenreich said he did not believe the DA would make good on its promises to deliver to the poor and the ANC would use the next three years to come up with alternative solutions to delivery problems. Uhmm Hallo? A:) The DA has been delivering for quite a while now - they will continue to do so and more. B:) Alternative solutions? - if you take that the ANC's current solution is to do nothing, then yes to do something is an alternative. C:)Stop your wining - and sit down - let the adults do their jobs..OK?

      AJ - 2011-05-20 08:28

      The ANC IS the service delivery problem, so how they hell they are going to 'come up with alternative solutions to delivery problems' is beyond me, unless he means an alternative to the ANC that is..

      Zion - 2011-05-20 08:53

      Care for a prediction: Over the next 3 years there will be an onslaught against the DA, using similar low mentality tricks like the one we saw in the Toilet saga in Cape Town, Driven by the likes of Malema and his cronies. This great Cape Town victory is stinging more than what is realized. The Midvaal victory is also a thorn in the side of the ANC.

      Zion - 2011-05-20 09:00

      AJ, When I was in school we had a bloke in the class who failed std 7 three times yet he tenaciously stayed in school wasting every one's time. That is how the ANC works. They have been around 17years promising yet most see past the promises and see the ineptitude, incompetence, stupidity and poor performance yet the hang around carrying on like they always do, Talking the talk and delivering Sweet Fanny Adams. Our only salvation is the rising of the younger generation who will not stand for generations of nothing.

      DW - 2011-05-20 09:32

      Zion the sad fact is that the younger generation can be either militant, rioting fools demanding everything for nothing (ala Malema) or educated and making their own way without the burden of an apartheid past. Unfortunately with the shocking education that the ANC dishes out, the majority are the former - so the ANC base will in all likelihood get bigger. The youth is becoming the biggest group of potential voters and if they all register, wanting everything for free, there is trouble ahead.

      Zion - 2011-05-20 12:53

      DW I agree fully. The younger generation is tha only salvation for the problems of South Africa. Prior to 1994 it was predicted that within 20 to 25 years the Struggle mentality would have burnt it self out. The Uneducated ANC cadres in power at the moment are desperately trying to refuel those fires hence the convenience of Malema and his tjommies.I think it is realistic that the level of education will rise even if it is by its own internal evolution. During this election campaign we saw the popularity of the race card being thrown into the fry and the ghosts of "350years" being resurrected. The ANC leaders in power are aware that their propped up system cannot last much longer. Much of the votes for the DA were from ANC sources. And that is another ghost that haunts the present government.

  • ilollipop - 2011-05-20 08:05

    I look forward to Comrade Tony running again. You really think he will do better next time round? The man can't even be trusted to run a page on Facebook.

      tryanything - 2011-05-20 14:32

      Well now he knows what an oversupply of coloured people can do ..oversupply of DA votes.

      Zion - 2011-05-20 17:55

      Suggest we buy comrade Tony a return ticket so he will not be delayed after he fails another time. - Loser.

  • HopefulXpat - 2011-05-20 08:11

    Shame Tony. The Western Cape has spoken and unanimously kicked you and your racist and corrupt party out of the province. What we saw from 2006 to 2009 to 2011 is called a 'trend' and it is not going to change direction to 2014 and beyond. Your reputation with Western Cape voters is at an all time low and it is just going further down with every bit of gibberish coming from your mouth. Shut up and go back to doing what you do best - inciting strikes.

  • Frank Desumi - 2011-05-20 08:12

    TONY.....F...CK U AND THE ANC. U, twit, are saying by implication that we are stupid and vote for the white man/woman because they gave us a better deal in the past. WE VOTED U IDIOT because we wanted a better deal than Gauteng, Pretoria and ALL the OTHER municipalities the ANC has run into the ground. As a PROUD COLOURED from Mitchells Plain I will ALWAYS vote for the party that looks after MY interests and the interest of my CHILDREN. RACE has nothing to do with it. I DONT CARE if HELEN IS BLACK, as long as she does a good job. Unlike the un-educated masses that will stone your and my car when they realize they have been duped again because they voted for a incompetent lot based on colour and not for a better life for all...

      regularguy - 2011-05-20 10:59

      People with your outlook on things make me PROUD to call myself a Capetownian !!!!!!!

      windkind - 2011-05-20 13:45

      GIVE THAT MAN A BELLS!

      gtr - 2011-05-20 20:15

      Count the number of Municipalities ANC run, you will notice that there are well run Municipalities under the ANC, Stevetshwete, ehlanzeni in Mpumalanga and other provinces that continue to receive clean audits (media will never report this as they focus on the negatives the ANC does). Pretoria is a well run Municipality for ur information. What happened in CT is good for democracy but do not generalise and assume ACN does Kak everywere. Race exists look at the treatment of Black professionals in the Corporates.

  • spook ghost - 2011-05-20 08:17

    Tony, you are nothing more than a racist. The DA won fair a square because the people on the whole saw tangible service delivery results in the Cape, not the squalor and regressive communities like the one's you represent. What's wrong with people wanting to further their lives in a place where they can enjoy the amenities of a modern, civilised society? The people who voted for you are broken up into two types. The ones who don't give a damn about modern life and are quite content on regressing their areas into a neo-Transkei, and the others you want bling without paying any ching! Let's face it, the people who voted for you are content with no delivery or raping the wallets of tax-payers with dodgy BEE deals.

  • anthro45@24.com - 2011-05-20 08:18

    By that time you would have fkd up so bad, that you won't even be in the run anymore.

  • Francois Etienne Oliphant - 2011-05-20 08:18

    OI , Tony. Ill-gotten gains? Explain your beach house in Kleinmond???

      saabnut - 2011-05-20 08:34

      Good one!

      saabnut - 2011-05-20 08:35

      Perhaps it's actually a youth hostel for the up and coming COSATU members...

      Other Justin - 2011-05-20 09:13

      LOL! Good One!!!

      jimmy jazz - 2011-05-20 10:19

      and ask him to explain Cosatus role in all the job losses in the country while he's about it please

      maggielou - 2011-05-20 10:34

      That's all we know about - let's pry for the other ill-gotten gains from this plonker!

      joy.termorshuizen - 2011-05-20 11:20

      Too true AND I wonder what car he drives and parks in all the no parking zones just like Tony Yengeni does....and where does he live I wonder......

  • Karooseun - 2011-05-20 08:23

    The ANC WILL NEVER EVER HAVE A CHANCE OF GETTING TO GOVERN CAPE TOWN AND THE WESTERN CAPE,AND TRY AND TURN IT INTO A BLACK HOMELAND

      wanda - 2011-05-20 08:37

      Karooseun' it is a black & coloured homeland,not a white homeland i don't know where is a your white homeland (Karooseun) where is it? tell me within these 9 provinces

      capecrowley - 2011-05-20 08:49

      Karooseun, I can't tell if you are trying to be controversial or are not very sophisticated, but Cape Town wants to move beyond race and towards a non-racial future, not fight black people. Ek dink jy moet terug plaas toe keer en konsentreer op jou skapies.

      capecrowley - 2011-05-20 08:50

      Your mindset is no better than Wanda's. You are two peas in a very sad little pod.

  • Myth - 2011-05-20 08:24

    These ANC politicians really have a narrow view with a short term memory. They will lose even more ground in future with this kind of blind rhetoric. Certainly they have learned nothing from history - the only struggle they have is to cope with themselves.

      Organist-1 - 2011-05-20 08:31

      Well said Myth.

      joe - 2011-05-20 08:32

      I trust the 3rd last word was not an intended pun?

      wanda - 2011-05-20 08:52

      Chief 'Myth' let me cover this to you,We as (ANC)we will be blind rhetoric till god comes , if you say "we will lose more grounds in future" yhoooo! that's just your idiotic mindset of your thinking bra! & even in SA"s future no one will lead this country but ANC will till end

      Other Justin - 2011-05-20 09:26

      @wanda - keep telling yourself that, but if you scrutinise the result carefully, you will notice that the cANCer has lost a couple of percentage points in almost every municipality and metro council throughout the country, whilst only gaining in KZN. The DA has increased it's support in almost EVERY municipality and metro in cANCer hands, whilst increasing it's support in it's own areas. With the blind, arrogant rhetoric of yours and fellow cANCer supporters, you are heading for ruin. You are a racist.

      caryn.dawson - 2011-05-20 10:58

      @Wanda.... It's honestly a Wanda that you can construct a well formed sentence at all. Your inability to understand the proper use of punctuation just reinforces the fact that you were obviously educated by your beloved ANC led government. As the saying goes "God helps those who help themselves" - or as the ANC likes to interpret "God said I should help myself, so I did, to everything."

      regularguy - 2011-05-20 11:07

      @ Wanda. Its a fact that the ANC is running the same route as the old NP. By thinking you are invinceable you dig your own grave. As previos posters has put is, The ANC may still be in charge, BUT the support has dropped a hell of a lot. So either you guys get your act together or this will happen at the next election aswell. Not all ANC supporters are so easily blindfolded anymore. They know now that sentiments dont supply water and homes. So please get off your little high chair and rather get your comrades to start delivering. No one on this forum would mind an ANC munisipality that actually does what its suppose to do.... hope you can understand what we mean????

      joy.termorshuizen - 2011-05-20 11:26

      @ Wanda REALLY have you heard the defininition of insanity...I will tell you cos it applies to you and all the other blind ANC voting sheep...The definition of insanity is too keep on doing what you have always done ( vote ANC ) but to expect different results. Carry on up that river in Egypt ( de nile) and get what you have always got i.e. corruption, stealing, mismanagement etc etc etc

      Stefan - 2011-05-20 13:09

      @Wanda - South Africa is about more than you're beloved ANC (and for that matter any political party) and more people are starting to realize this! I'm afraid the quote "we don't want service delivery from the DA" shouted by one of the ANC protesters in Midvaal says it all for some poor mindless buggers though...

  • Organist-1 - 2011-05-20 08:28

    And then there are calls to give Tony a DA seat to help him uplift the poor ???? You cant be serious. This is tantamount to placing a rotton apple in a bag of good ones. IF he works and something goes right, he will just say "see, I am ANC this this is what I did". SO Perish the thought.

      joe - 2011-05-20 09:18

      Don't give him ice in winter. Kick him while he's down, which is what one does with a venomous snake.

  • Lauren - 2011-05-20 08:31

    Get over it Tony. You get paid by a party that celebrates racial divide. You are incapable of commenting on issues without bringing race into it. And people should stop patronising "coloured" people in such a way. Making out as though they are some form of comodity that can be fought over by black and white masters. It's pathetic, really. Would it not be better to simply accept the fact that people made up their minds about who they wanted to vote for and did so accordingly? No Tony jumps in and comments as though these people are naive children or half wits.

  • Damask - 2011-05-20 08:33

    Tony does not appear to think before he speaks

      sefeddt - 2011-05-20 10:04

      Dont blame Tony, its an ANC thing, he can only mimic his bosses (Zuma/Malema) when speaks without thought.

  • ANC Ancestor - 2011-05-20 08:34

    Well done DA!!! Keep on doing your thing, knowing the ANC they will continue on their path of destruction, nepotism, polarization and corruption. Come 2014 their could be a strong possibility you could also take Johannesburg, Pretoria and PE. Although the DA didn't win majorities in those metros, the election results in those areas are very encouraging for the DA.

  • Karooseun - 2011-05-20 08:36

    Dit is jou soort Tony that,that the citizens of Cape Town do not need,as they are educated and know what it means to live in a democracy,and not in a system or with a political party like the ANC,that was elected by a democratic system of voting,but failed to deliver democracy,instead gave the people a communistic black power government.This will not be the case in 2014 or the next general election that who will be the next ruling party in South Africa

      capecrowley - 2011-05-20 08:53

      Karooseun jy is regtig onnosel. Kan jy nie jou eie kontradiksies waarneem nie? Jy het klaarblyklik 'n groot probleem met swartes, maar dan praat jy van demokrasie en regte asof jy beter is as die Tonies en die Skwatshas. Jy is net so rassisties en ongesofistikeerd as hulle. Lees jou kop man, jy vat ons almal terug.

  • SSRat - 2011-05-20 08:43

    Tony you racist joiner, sit down, hou jou bek and take a big spoonfull out of the industrial size can of WHOOPASS handed to you by the Blue Tsunami. Hahahahahahahahahah!

  • Archie Bunke - 2011-05-20 08:44

    At least now that the election is over we get less lies and more truths from Tony His words --“So that must tell you that …people feel … more secure with people who had traditionally given coloreds a better deal." – The truth – Tony acknowledge that the ANC has NOT given the coloreds a better deal; or in other words – the DA gives a better deal than the ANC. His words –“…not focused on the needs of communities." – The truth – Tony acknowledge the needs of the poor are NOT the first priority of the ANC Does his words not sound a lot like the the DA before the elections?- Just asking.

  • Rugbysemoer - 2011-05-20 08:49

    Listen all you pale faced hyppocrates, you voted DA simply because they represent white SA, nothing much has changed in the Cape, Whites continue to enjoy life in the sun. Coloureds are the biggest idiots because the DA has given them nothing. The Majority of people in this country are black, eventually Cape Town will be black. WE have the power to change the legislation and the wards so that in future big wards like Kayalitsha, Nyanga and Gugulethu have more councillors, since they are bigger voting blocks and we will continue to ship them in. Sleep peacfully for now, but your children will have to come to live in this new integrated SA.

      capecrowley - 2011-05-20 09:00

      Because you clearly have a big chip on your shoulder, and have failed to move beyond the 1970s, let me use your own Verwoerdian logic to explain a little 'science' to you. Firstly, the DA will pull in about 24% of the national vote, give or take. Whites constitute 8-9% of population, coloureds a little less. So, using the power of maths, we can see that the DA had to pull in lots of support from across minority groups, and a not insignificant amount of black votes. If you ascribe this to low turn-out, ask yourself why blacks didn't vote? Now, moving beyond that. I have looked at population growth projections, and you would be interested to know that because of the impact of HIV/AIDS amongst the more sexually promiscuous section of our population, the total number of blacks in South Africa will remain more or less the same for the next few decades, while the proportion of coloureds will continue to rise steadily. Whites will age and you are right, reduce in proportion to the others. Are you still with me, or should we start again from the top? So no, based on your own backward, Apartheid analysis, should Capetonian voters continue to vote along racial lines, the ANC will never rule Cape Town again. Sorry for you!

      capecrowley - 2011-05-20 09:08

      One day perhaps you will cast off this archaic Bantu* principle of colonisation through breeding. It causes disease and poverty, and it results in lots of millions of little 'rugbysemoers' running around in the dust, angry at the world but not educated enough to transform that anger into positive, self-actualising ambition. *not in a perjorative, but historical sense.,

      Rugbysemoer - 2011-05-20 09:21

      Interesting perspective capecowardly, but then your science is not exact, this is clearly your defensive white mentality doing the math, yes the coloureds will come to realise that the DA has nothing to offer accept to use the coloured as a ticket to politcal power, we know why De lille moved to the DA, of course the price was right. wishfull thinking to think that blacks will not increase in numbers because of HIV/AIDS. Racist thinking again. Unfortunately you will try and justify because you obviously never. Unfortunately the coloureds suffer under the doctrine of social enevitability and their vote will swing depending which way the wind blows.

      capecrowley - 2011-05-20 09:26

      May I direct your attention to several studies conducated by demographers at the University of Cape Town, De Kock's study on inter-provincial migration and projections made by the United Nations Development Program? I study long-term trends professionally, silly person.

      capecrowley - 2011-05-20 09:31

      As we move beyond the ossified perspective that you represent, peoples' vote - white, coloured or black - will swing towards whichever party delivers. IF the DA fails to deliver, we'll kick them out without batting an eyelid. If it succeeds, its support will grow. If the ANC - in their own municipalities - begin to deliver services efficiently and effectively to poor communities - then the DA is admittedly dead in the water. So why don't we take a little bet whether the ANC will manage to pull their head out of their own a$$ during the course of the next few years and DELIVER. You may be delusional, but don't think even you expect the ANC to somehow put aside their factionalism and cannibalisation of public resources any time soon.

      Other Justin - 2011-05-20 10:20

      Don't waste your breath with this racist capecrowley, he is bigoted and regardless of any truths, insistent on pushing his racist agenda, bloody agent.

      Rugbysemoer - 2011-05-20 10:47

      What is it about you whites, always wanting to be superior in your argument all of a sudden you are an expert and who says De Kock study is gospel. Studies are disproven sometimes by the intent and view it wants to portray. It's amazing similarly that because you believe something doesn't mean it is fact. The bottom line is that you are still a racist living in a nice white subburb enjoying manicured streets with lawns and lavish trees, and you vote DA because you want to preserve it. Carefully looked after by the DA

      Felix - 2011-05-20 11:32

      And you rugbyhurtsimawimp just want the whole population living in the dust while you reside in your palace shopping overseas. Take your Bob style thinking and FO to the congo, there are almost no whites there to bug you. Don't forget your AK47 you Fing ZanuPF agent.

      capecrowley - 2011-05-20 11:41

      I'm sorry if all this 'science' talk is getting in the way of your entrenched inferiority complex. I wish that you would integrate more with people of all colours, because you'd find most South Africans of all complexions are warm, wonderful and empathetic people. You are like a whimpering street dog that got abused by some bully as a puppy, and will for the rest of your life bite anybody who reaches out to you, while your tail remains between your legs.

      Electronic Cemetery - 2011-05-20 13:08

      @Rugbysemoer, You are perpetually racist and expect people to take your argument seriously? How dare you call anyone a hypocrite! The fact that most people seem to miss in South Africa is that it is not a crime to be successful and live in a nice home in a secure area with good services. It is also not a human right to get for free what others have worked for! Your human right is to the basic amenities to live, the rest, for the frills and bells you have to work your bum off for it! The DA looks out for the poor by trying its best to provide the amenities of life as efficiently as possible to EVERYONE, the people who are "wealthy" have as much right to these amenities as the poor, if the "wealthy" stop receiving these amenities they will simply up sticks and move elsewhere creating a money vacuum behind them... This will lead to less taxes being collected and even fewer amenities being made available to the poor worsening the situation... I guess my point is that South Africa is a Democratic capitalist state not a Communist state... People need to understand that the past cannot be allowed to keep on determining the future indefinitely... Hopefully the present can determine a better future than what we have around the rest of SA now! When on Earth will the past be allowed to rest and people get on with simply making the country better, living in the past simply stops you from looking towards a future that could be truly amazing!

      Stefan - 2011-05-20 13:23

      Thanks Mr. Rugbysemoer, as much as the shift away from the ANC by many voters gives me hope for SA, so does your attitude scare me! What do you want for South Afria? I can't understand this blind obsession with the ANC! Are you also one of the guys that would shout "We don't want service delivery by the DA" as I heard one ANC protester shout in Midvaal?

      Sleg Bliksem - 2011-05-20 21:46

      rugby se moer ek neem aan jy si korrup enigste rede hoekom jy die anc wil ondersteun

      Rugbysemoer - 2011-05-21 09:07

      Sleg Bliksem ek is seker jy dra eerste hands kennis daarvan, of het jy vergeet hoe the Nasionale Party groot skaals die land beroof het en daarom is jy bevoorreg.

      Rugbysemoer - 2011-05-21 09:19

      Shame CApecowardly 2 responses it seems your thoughts and ideas are not flowing smoothly so now you have to play the intellectual and portray yourself as someone with superior intelligence. fact is that nothing has changed in the Cape for the blacks and coloureds. Tasneem started the IRT idea (the Klipfontein Corridor) the DA then Hi-Jacked it and moved it to Blouberg and Milnerton bicycletrack and all. Now De lille promises this to the poor in Kaya and Athlone just to get the vote. I call it Political opportunism

  • Bianca - 2011-05-20 08:49

    Sorry, but the fact that the ANC were sending out sms's on election day with to white kids playing horsey on the backs of two black kids saying if you vote for the DA this is your kids future.. I'm sorry but thats racism,and pandering to a whole new level. Grow up ANC, do some goodd and stop trying to make this about apartheid... its over...now we want progress..

      wanda - 2011-05-20 10:42

      Bianca please don't come with coloured programmed mentality here we need natural people that are not programmed by white people tmeaning blacks people yes! we also educated but we wont be changed by white dictators here!!!

      Felix - 2011-05-20 11:35

      Wanda please FO to the congo, you whiteless dream awaits.

      mike - 2011-05-20 13:01

      @wanda - wtf?

      Zion - 2011-05-20 13:08

      Wanda, You do not understand that racism is all the ANC has to maintain their supremacy. Take racism away from Ehrenreich then you have an empty shell. Take racism out of the ANC policies, yes all policies then you will have no ANC because racism is synonymous with the ANC. In fact building blocks.

      Sleg Bliksem - 2011-05-20 21:48

      ag wanda FAKU!

  • Other Justin - 2011-05-20 08:51

    'because if you were privileged by apartheid those are ill-gotten' - Go to hell. My family were white and poor, even during Apartheid, I never benefited from apartheid as I went to school with black kids and they enjoyed the same education as me. I paid my own way with little jobs etc. and eventually paid for myself to study and get a job. I now have a good job that I applied for because of my skill set and have a house of my own. ILL-GOTTEN???? Just because I am white???? Go to hell Tony, YOU ARE THE BIGGEST RACIST OF ALL!

      Rugbysemoer - 2011-05-20 09:06

      Other Justin, you must have lived in Rhodesia when you went to school because in SA, no black kid had te same education as a white kid. The system was designed to keep blacks in the Gutter, Over 50 years of apartheid, with better, education, beaches, tertiary education, housing(even for poor whites, railway cottages), then you had the immorality act, the pass system to restrict blacks from finding jobs in the major metropolitan areas, Job reservation. My friend if you didn't cut it then truely you must have been a true idiot. You could be extremely stupid but still get a job in the police or army (sheltered employment). So yes! you were priviliged. But then most whites suffer from amnesia

      Other Justin - 2011-05-20 10:16

      @Rugbysemoer - I was born in South Africa, like my ancestors going back 300 odd years ago. For your information, I am not an old white South African male, I am a young white South African male. If you remember correctly, pur first democratic elections were in 1994, when I was in school. I DEFINTATELY went to school with black, indian and coloured kids and can ASSURE you that they had EXACTLY the same educational opportunities than I did, some even had better, considering their parents had the money to send their kids to university. I NEVER WENT TO THE ARMY, RETARD, I WAS IN SCHOOL AND THE ARMY WAS VOLUNTARY! It is extremely hard for me to suffer from amnesia, considering I never even had a chance to vote during apartheid, considering I was a young boy. YOUR PROBLEM, my friend, is simply that you are a bigoted, narrow minded RACIST! If you read my comment correctly, I DID CUT IT, so, you are not only a narrow minded racist bigot, but a blind uncomprehending fool! I pity racists like you, you and the white racists have more in common than you think, you have become that which you hate, well done.

      Rugbysemoer - 2011-05-20 10:39

      Either way young or old it's amazing how you defend yourself by calling me a racist when in fact even though you have attended school in this country you still haven't manage to integrate properly, at the time you obviously went to a model C schools which was still racist and econmically biased towards the majority of people, but you had better education than most blacks in the country. You are too blind to see what the new government has done for the majority of people. We are free, free from enslavement to the white man free to think and free to associate. However because of your racist upbringing you cannot even comprehend this, something you will never understand You and your folk were just to happy to enjoy the fruits and seeds that was planted during the apartheid days. I'd rather be poor but free. You think 17 years of democracy can wipe out social engineering and gutter education. You will get a job easier than those unskilled people you see on the road everyday looking for work or begging. It will take another 3 generations for the redress to work it's way through the system. You Hypocrites

      regularguy - 2011-05-20 11:25

      Rugbysemoer.... If you guys havent burnt down, toiy toiyed and stayed away from the education institutions that were supplied to you, you would had excactly the oppertunities than any so called model c school child had.. Fact is, your own people put their children in other schools because the teachers at so called black schools were never there to teach!!! So stop laying the fault for the lack of education infront of the whites... And again, its your government that changed the schooling policies to the crap it is today because they realized that some people will never get up to the standards that was set before 94 !!!

      Other Justin - 2011-05-20 11:35

      @Rugbysemoer - I am in no way or form saying that there is justification for the current economical problems faced by the majority of South Africans. I also do not dispute that there are real challenges facing the country in terms of economical equality. ALL I AM SAYING is that what I have today, I have worked for, everything. Apartheid has NEVER benefited me, EVER, in fact I have been discriminated against when applying for jobs based on the colour of my skin in the current system, I am lucky to have the job that I do have. By the way, the people I went to school with in my model C school were black, indian and coloured as well as white, we all benefited the same in our school. There are obviously problems with access to decent education that need to be resolved, this is a process and not an overnight solution. Trust me, the majority of South Africans do not want any form of apartheid back in this country, we want progress, accountable governance and access to basic services and good education FOR ALL! I suspect we both want exactly the same things for South Africa, except that I want it for all, where you want it for you and your fellow black citizens. South Africa is not only black, it has the largest concentration of people of Malay, Indian and European decent in the whole of the African continent, not to mention the mixed race population. Your racist view of white people is just that, racist. It is like me saying that all blacks are thieves, when clearly they are not.

      Felix - 2011-05-20 11:39

      Jeez this rugby guy is a tosser, you can have a better debate with an amoeba. Can you say brainwashed..... Definately a case of give give give.

      capecrowley - 2011-05-20 11:46

      @ Rugbysemoer I'm sorry if all this non-racial talk is getting in the way of your entrenched inferiority complex. I wish that you would integrate more with people of all colours, because you'd find most South Africans of all complexions are warm, wonderful and empathetic people. You are like a whimpering street dog that got abused by some bully as a puppy, and will for the rest of your life bite anybody who reaches out to you, while your tail remains between your legs.

      Rugbysemoer - 2011-05-21 09:01

      Interesting to see the white comment flowing in defence of their priviledged position. I see the common unintellectual trend from CapeCowardly in others started to rear it's ugly head, for a lack of quality thinking they now attack the message and not the message. Interesting how quickly we loose our moral high grond. perhaps the respondents will take time out and watch the rugby in stead of waisting their time in futile argument only because they attach so much to their own self importance that the need to have the last say is so great that they are afraid to leave it at that. Other justin your last argument was well taken. however be careful of your analygies, it could be intepreted as stygmatism about blacks.

  • nonduplume - 2011-05-20 08:53

    Tony does not realise that the ANC is not representative of all the population groups. There are very few whites, coloureds and indians in Cabinet, muncipalities, councils and in senior gov positions. The reality of the situation is that the ANC is all about blacks and by and large incompetant cadre who have not delivered over that past 17 years and will not deliver over the next 17 years. There are ample examples of this non-delivery that everybody talks about but does nothing about! Defence, education, health, home affairs, transport, police, Eskom, Metrorail, SANRAL, Nelson Mandela metropol, et al are all examples of how the ANC can continually mess up with blacks running the show! And has anybody ever been prosecuted in terms of the PFMA - NO!!!!!!!

  • robertr - 2011-05-20 08:56

    Hi Tony,Malema cost you your mayoral seat.Get rid of the tenderprenieurs and I guarantee you will win Cape Town.

      joe - 2011-05-20 09:23

      I don't agree. He will have to move to another party first. But who will have him? The HNP?

  • VeryConcerne - 2011-05-20 08:57

    Tony, might I suggest a good read, 'How to win friends and influence people.....'

  • gumrol - 2011-05-20 09:01

    Tony, Tony, Tony. Your comments just show your total lack of understanding of the Western Cape culture. You're talking to, on average, a more educated voter. People that aren't suckered by empty rhetoric. The more you spin & lie, the less you'll have of the Western Cape. You can't just talk your way to the Western Cape, you need to do: your party needs to deliver on its promises.

  • ckrummeck - 2011-05-20 09:08

    Why doesn't the IEC go digital and allow voters to appear in person and follow the same process, but instead of writing an 'X' onto a page, have a touch screen, in a private voting booth, where you can select your choice. It's still totally safe in that it can't be hacked, because it's not online; but the benefits are massive. Each ID Number registered can only vote once, no one can spoil a ballot, counting is done automatically, loads of time & money saved, etc. Basically, instead of IEC officials counting the paper vote and capturing them into a system, rather allow voters to directly capture there choice into a system. Results would be available almost immediately. It's time!

      Vela Stardust - 2011-05-20 09:18

      The ANC would go into total brainlock. Look what happened with eNatis, Home Affairs, CIPRO, SARS efiling. Good idea but epic fail for SA. Oh, come to think of it, know any hackers ?

      VeryConcerne - 2011-05-20 09:20

      On line ... yeah right, remember the world cup ticketing fiasco?

      Hello there - 2011-05-20 09:27

      World cup ticketing ? Oh please, that's nothing. Ckrummeck, your suggestion got Bush elected in 2000. Your ATM machines are made by Diebold, who made the voting machines in the USA. Bush only got elected because someone cracked the Diebold machines in Florida. It is far too easy to break these type of things.

  • erasmuskm - 2011-05-20 09:09

    Tony your attitude really stinks, you are so boring with the same old comments you make. I myself am coloured, but to hear you talk about the same story all the time, why don't you record yourself, and play it whenever the media wants to speak to you. Everyone who belongs to teh ANC in power that is, brings up racism, because they not getting what they want. Get over racism, Cape Town wants a party that governs transparently, and not in hiding, when millions get wasted or go missing.

  • v3 - 2011-05-20 09:23

    The fact that Ehrenreich is petty, malicious, mean-spirited and ignorant trash may also have helped the DA.

  • Vela Stardust - 2011-05-20 09:25

    The ANC is blatantly racist. Almost every statement their leaders make defines South African's by colour. I thought that was behind us. Obviously not. So Tony, sorry dude, no room for racists in the Western Cape. Go someplace else.

  • Julzh - 2011-05-20 09:28

    Tony is puppet and we all know that a puppet has no back-bone. I'm sick and tired of the apartheid story everytime the ANC don't get it their way. And to say that coloureds can't seem to vote for another than the DA. Bro please, ANC had the chance to do good for the WC and they've failed over and over again. I think that most of the people that vote for the ANC in non-service delivery municipals don't want a better live and would rather go and toy-toy in the streets for their service delivery. They'd had a chance on 18 May to elect the DA but went for the cANCer once again. Tony cANCer supporters vote with their hearts and emotions rather with their heads.

  • Wit Mamba - 2011-05-20 09:32

    Tony "the Racist" Ehrenreich. Take your hiding like a man and just disappear into the Cape Flats. Looser.

  • RWC - 2011-05-20 09:33

    Im coloured and i know like many other coloureds you cant fool us forever,we no whats best for ourself and not to a corrupt party trying to blame everything on apartheid.What Tony must acknowlage is that coloured people rule the ANC when it comes to Western Cape we decide who let in or out.This time around you thought we will forget and forgive hey not so easy maybe if the ANC returns to how Madiba use to run it every coloured i promise you will change there mind and and supporting that Madela was the ANC and not the ANC was Madela.

  • wgibsonsa - 2011-05-20 09:42

    Me Tony "run to a private hospital when sick". Your government hospitals not good enough for you.Nice to be on medical aid hey. You are a non entity.

  • CharlieSheen - 2011-05-20 09:57

    I'm so sick and tired to hear about this 'ill gotten gains' mumbo jumbo. I'm much better off than most of the black people here in the Western Cape, but it's most definitely not due to me being white, and gaining anything due to apartheid. I started off as a waitor at a Spur, saved my money and paid for my own trip overseas to the UK where I gained experience, which I brought back and used to get to where I am today. No one handed me anything, on the contrary, I had to work hard to get just the minimum, and had to help support my mom who couldn't work anymore. Keeping this in mind, why is it that I succeeded and the millions of black people did not? How much longer are they going to blame apartheid and so called 'ill gotten gains' for the situation at hand, instead of facing reality?

  • jimmy jazz - 2011-05-20 10:15

    "the anc would use the next three years to come up with alternative solutions to delivery problems " THREE YEARS ???? it takes the anc THAT LONG to come up with a solution ???? no wonder our country is in the state it's in !!!!

  • Steven - 2011-05-20 10:16

    Wow, the comments made by the ANC before, during and after this election shows their true agenda. A fair number of educated South Africans have known what this agenda is. Simply put, using the poor to gain political position as to ensure riches for themselves, their families and friends. Now I ask you, is that the socialist model? What Ehrenreich and the rest of the ANC fail to understand is that majority "rich" people, and this includes all races, gladly support the ideology of supporting the poor. All they ask in return is some basic services for the tax money. The rest of the money can go to helping the poor with housing and other services. What the "rich" would like to see is that the poor is helped through policies that will ensure economic growth, which in turn creates real and sustainable jobs. Creating Government jobs or just spending on public works programs aren't creating real and sustainably jobs as these are paid for with tax money. It is sad to see that so many South Africans are still struggling because the party they believe in is failing them. Also, interesting to see that the ANC leaders constantly bring race into the discussions while the DA talks about South Africans. It is time to acknowledge and respect our diversity and embrace the problems of this country as South Africans wanting a better life for all.

  • maggielou - 2011-05-20 10:23

    No Ehrenreich, don't blame mr. Manyi! You were a compromised candidate selected with high hopes! Your racism and blatant jealousy of people who have and are still working hard for what they have, did not help you much. Apart from your racism and hunger for power, you are an empty vessel. Be a good little boy now and go and do your work for COSATU so that those members can at least benefit something from your poor leadership. Helen Zille has now finally shown you why she will be YOUR madam. For the sake of ALL OF US in the Western Cape - I urge you, together with your ANC president, to stop polarising the population and to let our leaders get on with the WORK THAT WE ELECTED THEM TO DO!! The continual threatening and blackmailing has to stop otherwise, hopefully, legal action can be taken by the leaders. We all have to move fast now to build a better future for our poor people. We have to continually defend their and our right to be protected from exploiting, bloodsucking, self-enriching, nepotistic, fraudulant and power hungry politicians who don't have our interests at heart. GO DA GO!

  • gembleton1 - 2011-05-20 10:49

    If the ANC stops playing the race card that is so last century maybe they would get some more votes in the western cape. but the people have spoken. Tony go back to your day time job trying to prove that the DA is not providing services even though it has been proven in the western cape that the quality of living standards are better for all than in any ANC run province and city, I know I have moved from Durban to Cape town in the last 6 months and there is no comparison. The western cape is better run by far well done DA keep it up.

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  • Truth etc. - 2011-05-20 11:28

    Stramge how he blames other parties' supporters for voting on racial lines, but refusing to acknowledge that this is even more true for the ANC. If people were not voting on racial lines it is doubtful that the ANC would be the governing party.

      LBS - 2011-05-21 18:38

      Ain't that the truth!! ANC screamed racist taunts right through the election - and the people taught them a lesson and voted on delivery and integrity!