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Parties wheeling and dealing for power

2011-05-23 22:07

Cape Town - Political powers were locked in meetings across the country on Monday to mull coalition pacts in municipalities where power hung in the balance after last week's municipal elections.

The Democratic Alliance was eyeing a broad agreement with Cope that would give it control of four additional municipalities in the Western Cape and three in the Northern Cape, said James Selfe, chairperson of the party's federal executive.

Speaking after a day-long meeting of the executive in Cape Town, he said the party would prefer to form an agreement with Cope at a national level, rather than enter into negotiations about individual councils.

"Ideally we would like a wider agreement," he said, but added that the DA had not yet had feedback from Cope about the smaller party's preferences.

Cope spokesperson Phillip Dexter would only say that the party's working committee met on Monday, and its congress national committee would convene on Tuesday to "discuss the elections and the results and whether we want coalitions".

Dexter refused to comment on the likelihood of a deal with the DA, but confirmed that Cope leader Mosiuoa Lekota had held talks with DA leader Helen Zille on the subject.

Lekota was quoted at the weekend as saying that comparing the DA's service delivery record to the ANC’s corruption record made the decision on who to side with easy for Cope.

This is bad news for the African National Congress, which is also looking to Cope to retain influence in the Western Cape after sustaining severe losses in the province, ceding control even of strongholds like Breede River and Saldanha Bay.

ANC Western Cape secretary Songeza Mjongile said his party was looking to form coalitions in 13 of the 30 municipalities in the province where the DA did not win more than 50% of seats.

"We are looking at forming coalitions in all 13 municipalities, we are not excluding any," Mjongile said.

"We will talk to all parties. We hope to know by Wednesday."

The ANC's national working committee met on Monday for a post-mortem of the elections that saw the party's national share of the vote dip to 62%.

Out of 30 municipalities in the Western Cape, the ANC only managed an outright win in Beaufort West.

Cope took 21 out of a total of 882 seats in the province. It got 2.1% of the vote nationally in its second election since it was formed out of a split in the ANC in 2008.

The DA increased its national share of votes to 23.9%, to a large extent by taking support away from small parties.

Steering clear

Selfe said the DA would steer clear of unstable coalitions with smaller parties that could compromise its ability to govern.

"We want to ensure ideological fit and make sure that we can govern coherently," he said.

The DA is especially anxious to form a governing coalition in the Western Cape's Bitou municipality, which party officials have described as an instance of "the worst ANC corruption".

The election produced a hung council and Cope, with one seat, would be kingmaker.

The Cape Times quoted the DA's Donald Grant as saying Cope would find "greater synergy and potential traction" with the DA than with the ANC, but talks could not be rushed.

In KwaZulu-Natal, the Inkatha Freedom Party said it would decide later on Monday whether to work with smaller parties in hung councils, while the National Freedom Party said it had been approached by the ANC for coalition talks.

NFP leader Zanele Magwaza-Msibi said her party would meet with ANC officials in Durban.

The May 18 vote resulted in 19 hung municipalities in the province.

By law, councils must be constituted within two weeks.

Comments
  • thetruth - 2011-05-23 22:53

    iqanda it's ZIONIST ZILLE

      SimonP - 2011-05-23 23:01

      @thetruth, your name says it all, an ANC supporter who has to lie to justify supporting the most corrupt party ever in Africa.

      Shees - 2011-05-24 08:22

      How can you support all the corruption? Do you not realise that its compramising our country and negatively effecting you? Things could be so much better...

      lotus.lindi - 2011-05-24 08:42

      Thetruth is sometimes stranger than fiction...

      Other Justin - 2011-05-24 09:39

      Stop drinking and go to bed.

  • Pat - 2011-05-23 22:56

    Outside of Cape Town the DA failed to win any major city, so if the DA aspire to a truly national role in politics, they will need more cards than they currently hold. The Cope support is spread throughout the provinces, so Cope could provide a combined African Democratic Alliance with a national footprint, while Helen Zille would do well to pay her respects to Chief Buthelezi. He has received an assegai in the back from Zanele Magwaza-Msibi of the National Freedom Party, so the Chief may be interested in a pow-wow with the DA, given the spread of the election results coalitions are the new game in town.

      Pat - 2011-05-23 23:12

      WISE WOMAN News 24 - On Friday, DA leader Helen Zille told City Press that her party was preparing to govern South Africa after the 2019 national election, by which time “in all probability” it would be led by a black leader

      Peter - 2011-05-23 23:20

      Re Buthelezi : very bad advice. DA, do NOT sell your soul. He cannot let go of "power". Remind you of any one north of the border?

      Pat - 2011-05-23 23:51

      The report above says NFP leader Zanele Magwaza-Msibi is meeting with ANC officials in Durban, if she throws her lot in with the ANC it makes sense for the DA to approach Inkatha, that's the name of the game.

      Rover_ZA - 2011-05-24 09:17

      If their only goal were to win as many areas as possible then possibly, however they have stated that any party they would align with would need to be an ideological fit as well to maintain coherent governance which I would think would rule Buthelezi out. It would be senseless for them to take on an area as a partner if it would negatively impact on their delivery record.

      Dadadada - 2011-05-24 09:21

      The DA has made major inroads in so far as there are allot more Municipalities where the ANC needs to discuss decisions with the DA. The ANC needs to be more considerate now and treat the DA with a bit more respect. If you add COPE's voters to the DA's you start moving very close to the 30% mark. Put some good service delivery in the way with more effective electioneering and the next Government elections will see the DA get to 35%. IFP is no longer relevant. Lekota is very charming guy and appeals to allot of South African's COPE will get back to their 6% pretty quickly I'm sure leaving the ANC to scratch 55% together in two years time. This is a very long chess game, looking forward to the results....

      Pat - 2011-05-24 11:22

      I agree with Rover above, that any alignment with Buthelezi would be to achieve a majority in municipalities, I cannot envision a major alignment at national level. Racoon is also correct that Cope is a different story, if Cope aligned with the DA in an African Democratic Alliance, a figure of 35% by 2014 is realistic. Then as Helen Zille herself has observed, the ADA parliamentary leader will be a black person, in preparation for an ADA takeover of government in 2019. Tony Leon did not “sell out” to the ANC, he realized that a white political leader had limited popularity, so he decided to serve his country in another way.

  • POLLENYS - 2011-05-23 22:57

    Well, if the DA is looking for a coalition with a non-corrupt party the ANC is the first to remove from the list.

  • thetruth - 2011-05-23 23:02

    coalitions or allies---the ANC has won a 62% vote...theyre here to rule for the next 7000 years as the next doomsday predictions are forecast...

      SimonP - 2011-05-23 23:06

      What doomsday predictions are you referring to? Have you noticed te ANC's support is shrinking. You guys are in big trouble if you do not replace Zuma.

      Rapier - 2011-05-24 08:02

      The ANC are in more trouble than they can actually handle, and even they don't fully comprehend the ramifications because the 62% "support" they are getting on paper must be divided into three: Cosatu,SACP and the old ANC. This alliance will not - cannot - last, (the signs have been there for a long time) and THEN we will see the cat amongst the pigeons. For anybody who understands politics - and Helen Zille does, one should not be surprised as to why she (with the backing of her very astute technical analysts) is predicting a DA majority by 2019. @the truth - please don't snore - you might just wake up the ANC........

      Shees - 2011-05-24 08:28

      Bahaahahaha.... no wonder you support the ANC :) ... politics should not be an emotional thing. Not to be mixed with religion / promises / hopes and dreams. It should be based on facts. Who is delivering for YOU? There is no place for loyalty to a party. All we want is results.

      lotus.lindi - 2011-05-24 08:38

      They may have won 62% of the vote, but I'm an optimist. And though they may technically have more councilors, I'm hoping he ANC's (lack of)work ethic will result in them being absent or asleep in their seats when important decisions are taken. That way, there's still hope for their areas. 38% sense can go a long way under favourable conditions:-)

      GetReal - 2011-05-24 08:44

      ....and so said Ian Smith...

      Other Justin - 2011-05-24 09:42

      LOL! You make me laugh, keep it up, you will soon give our head comedian julius a run for his money!

  • POLLENYS - 2011-05-23 23:06

    Well, if the DA is looking for non-corrupt partners in a coalition, the ANC is the first to be removed from the list. And don't delete my post - unless the truth hurts too much.

  • thetruth - 2011-05-23 23:19

    SimonP where were u 4 the last few weeks when ppl the world over were waiting for doomsday on 21st May...probably dreaming that the DA will rule one day

      mzanzirules - 2011-05-23 23:25

      yeah it will happen..... watch this space and you'll love it because you'll be fee for the first time............

      SimonP - 2011-05-23 23:53

      @thetruth, not dreaming, waiting. Once the majority realise the ANC is nothing more than a criminal organisation with the sole intention of enriching its core elite will the downfall of the ANC occur. Sooner than you think.

  • thetruth - 2011-05-23 23:32

    @ mzanzirules how can the DA lead one day when their former leaders join parties like the ANC (he's currently amployed by the ANC as the SA ambassador to Argentina)..watch this space PREDICTION :THE TEA LADIES TO JOIN THE ANC

      SimonP - 2011-05-23 23:44

      FACT: Tony Leon is not employed by the ANC, he is employed by South Africa. It seems yo ANC supporters do not understand the difference between ANC and national government.

      Uwe Klopfer - 2011-05-24 08:33

      @theLIE : there is difference between the "state" and the government. The NP also didn't know the difference and it seems the ANC is headed the same way. Ambassadors, judges, court clerks etc are employed by the state. The individuals are deployed by the government, that doesn't mean they work for the government.

      Other Justin - 2011-05-24 09:46

      You are delusional. They did not join the ANC, they are still DA, they did however accept a job offer from the SA government who is currently run by the cANCer. It is the same for the FF+ Mulder, still FF+, just accepted a job offer from the government, currently lead by the cANCer. In their jobs, they represent SA, no the cANCer.

  • thetruth - 2011-05-23 23:33

    @ mzanzirules Forgot to mention TONY LEON as the ANC member

      SimonP - 2011-05-23 23:48

      FACT: Tony Leon is NOT a member of the ANC.

      RJL - 2011-05-24 01:56

      Wow.. you truly are as ignorant and retarded as your woodworking friend. Lets draw a picture for you... There are political parties like the ANC and the DA, then there is government. All separate entities you dolt, many thousands of people in the country work for this government, in many different departments from basic services to intelligence, to foreign affairs. Mr Leon works in foreign affairs and has been sent by SOUTH AFRICA to represent us in Argentina as he is a highly respected individual, not an ANC member. I fear these words most likely fall on deaf ears, but we can try...

      Other Justin - 2011-05-24 09:48

      Wow, you jut bang on about nothing....

  • thetruth - 2011-05-23 23:53

    thats what the DA and media profiles say,but he finally reAlised where his bread is buttered

      Blougroen - 2011-05-24 00:14

      Not bread and butter - you go to Argentina for the meat . . but in any case under the ANC bread and butter will soon be the ultimate luxury . . .

      SimonP - 2011-05-24 00:15

      Lies,lies and more lies from a blind ANC sheep. Why do you have to rely on lies to justify your nonsense. FACT: Tony Leon is not an ANC member.

      ANC Ancestor - 2011-05-24 02:59

      hhhhuummmmmmmm; hhuuummmmmmmmmmm; hhhhhhuuuuuuuuuummmmmmmmmm!

      Rapier - 2011-05-24 08:10

      It is fascinating @truth to see how many times you have posted your version of the "truth" down this page - you remind us all of propaganda chief Goebbels in Nazi Germany who contended that: "The more a lie is repeated, the more people will tend to think it is the truth.....but now the ANC "faithful" are stirring my friend, and YOU, and your ilk will live to eat your words, and perhaps....perhaps see the light. THAT day IS coming, and it will NOT be the end of the world when it does!

      Other Justin - 2011-05-24 09:48

      LOL!

  • Investor - 2011-05-24 00:00

    Rome wasn't built in a day...this is the beginning of the end of one-party ANC rule and the end of the beginning for REAL democracy in South Africa...

  • Benzo - 2011-05-24 04:02

    They should not be wheeling/dealing for power....they should be dealing for optimal delivery of services. Do they ever learn??????

      Looter - 2011-05-24 05:36

      thats so true, i like it!

      BigD - 2011-05-24 06:23

      Politics is a dirty game. Parties sitting and making deals playing with our lives. In Ladismith in WC the Civic something party won the majority of votes, so they will have the anc or DA as partners to run municipality. I read that this Civic party is headed by a former anc MM in that municipality and he failed when in charge. So what hope is there for this municipality.

  • koolaid - 2011-05-24 07:22

    How many times must a man look up, before he can see the sky How many ears must one man have, before he can hear people cry How many deaths will it take 'till he knows, that too many people Have Died? The answer my friend, is blowing in the wind. The answer is blowing in the wind. Happy 70th Birthday Bobby Dylan - a lifelong inspiration to me.

  • Thunukenenxe - 2011-05-24 07:38

    VERY NYC WE R TIRED OF GATSHA AND HIS PEOPLE. PEOPLE VOTED 4 THEM PREVIOUSLY BUT THEY GOT NOTHING IN RETURN, PEOPLE R STRUGGLING IN THE VILLAGES AND WE NEED NEW LEADERSHIP I AM VERY HAPPY THAT UMKHANYAKUDE WILL NEVER BE RULLED BY NKATHA AGAIN.

  • WeCanDoBetter.co.za - 2011-05-24 08:15

    @ everyone, this is an issue affecting every South African and needs to be debated and commented on. As a result, why not comment on your thoughts more comprehensively, submit an article to www.wecandobetter.co.za, we always enjoy hearing what’s on your mind. Otherwise visit our site and check out our recently released second edition. Stanley Black

  • Moipone Bokaba - 2011-05-24 08:37

    A blessed day to you all..i like the dreams of the future than the history of the past. If a coalition that is formed is for a greater good, then, why not. The first recipe for good governance is to avoid lengthy mediations of the past. We need a government that its highest purpose would be intellectual cultivism, real integrity,a government that would encouge a society to teach its children to see everyone's humanness,to see that the true essence of humankind is kindness. Through the years of my life i have lived with the teachings of Martin Luther King, Ghandi et al and to coin what Martin says in relation to living in harmony in a respecful and respectable society he summed it up perfectly when he said " Life's piano can only produce melodies of brotherhood and sisterhood when it is recognised that the black keys are as basic, necessary and beautiful as white keys". Life appears to be too short to be spent in nursing animosity or registering wrong...let's all encourage a working, formidable and cohesive coalition, for the greater good of all hamankind. Within you right now is the power to do things that you never dreamed possible( joining and voting for another party that you were not previously affiliated to) and this power became available to you just as soon as you changed your beliefs. We can do better and better.

  • vusi22 - 2011-05-24 09:05

    Politicians come from the same planet. They will form the coalition government at the expense of the electorate.I feel sorry for the society who are too trusting to the politicians

      Moipone Bokaba - 2011-05-24 10:28

      Just like we trust in the people we love.....blind faith and hope for better things. Patience, that is all i can say...it may not happen in your lifetime but it will happen eventually.

  • Mmoledi - 2011-05-24 15:50

    Lekota is an opportunist, he was serving in the ANC and during his term he never said any thing about corruption so now because he is enough his pocket is full by being a member of the corrupt government he then ran away and then he is saying others are corrupt not seeing himself as he is also part of the corruption he is talking about, he served two terms as an ANC member as a minister so that means he contributed in that corruption, so lastly this means Cope is also corrupt.

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