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Vote finalisation passes halfway mark

2011-05-19 10:56

Pretoria - Over half of the results of the 2011 local government elections had been finalised by Thursday morning, an Independent Electoral Commission (IEC) official said.

"We are just over halfway," said electoral manager Stuart Murphy shortly before 10:00.

All the votes had already been counted and 54% had gone through the rigorous checking and capturing process carried out by the IEC.

Counting of the ballot papers began the moment polls closed on Wednesday night.

Capturing, checking


When the counting was completed, results slips were be filled out and these were be transported to municipal IEC offices for the capturing of the results.

External auditors checked the scanning of the results slips and, for those finalised, the formula for calculating proportional representation was run.

"The results then start feeding through," said Murphy, working with a team in the centre of the results centre.

"So far 54,2% have been captured, audited - done and dusted," he said.

National results after 10:00 showed that so far, the ANC had 62.59% of the vote, the DA 23.78% and the Congress of the People 2.8%.

Comments
  • jds - 2011-05-19 11:01

    Although the DA still trails by far nationally,the Western Cape,Jhb, and Tshwane areas will be extremely important for the DA to carry on their excellent work and to build on what they have already achieved!!Viva DA Viva!!

      Jason V - 2011-05-19 11:18

      I just hope the DA proves themselves now in the Jhb area's...very important for the surrounding area's to see that the DA delivers as promised...Looking good so far :)

      Ash - 2011-05-19 11:18

      Damn it I keep reading Viva DIVA.

      jds - 2011-05-19 11:51

      I didn't say that they will win, only that they are becoming stronger in these areas,which is vital for the health of our country!!

      Dilika - 2011-05-19 11:53

      1045: The ANC had a tight grip on Tshwane by mid-morning on Thursday, with about 53% of the vote compared to the DA's 40%.- Source: timeslive. The large voting stations (townships to be exact) have not come through yet. So don't get excited to early. Even for Jhb, Soweto has not come through yet.

      Zion - 2011-05-19 11:55

      The masses are comfortable with what they get. They know not better hence do not expect better. When they see what is happening in, say, DA turf they may want it too until the toi-toi-ing stops. The masses were quite happy with the open toilets in the Cape and the Free State because they never moaned about it earlier until The ANC made a noise and shot themselves in the foot. From a personal perspective: Why must I now be a good John Citizen and hand out alms to the poor while the poor are relatively happy with what they have. The only thing they don't have is insight and education but that pleases their tamers no end.

      WallFly - 2011-05-19 12:22

      @ Dilika, if what you're saying is true, the News24 website's election map has been wrong the whole day... I've been following since 7:00, and the DA has been in the lead the whole time according to http://www.news24.com/maps?year=2011. It is true that things can still change a lot, especially as the townships' numbers are added.

      WallFly - 2011-05-19 12:27

      (I'm specifically referring to Tshwane, obviously.)

      Rianda - 2011-05-19 12:37

      http://www.news24.com/maps?year=2011 Go see for yourself Dilika and changeisGood Hopefully you fall within in one of these areas to experience the benefits...

      ir8m8 - 2011-05-19 13:42

      dont forget ethekweni, the DA is leading there too

  • Kevin - 2011-05-19 11:02

    62% of the population wasted a vote

      naromi@24.com - 2011-05-19 11:06

      they just did not know what they voted for.........viva AnotherNationalCrises

      wickus.v.d.westhiuzen - 2011-05-19 11:43

      Ah well bud remember their the ones thats going to suffer I don't even know why they vote ANC ,because the ANC is so corrupt and doesn't really care about them and doesn't even help them

      Rob Gunning - 2011-05-19 11:54

      Most still believe thaey are voting for Mandela.

      Educated - 2011-05-19 13:14

      They knowingly voted for racism & corruption. It suits their own agendas.

      Matt - 2011-05-19 13:22

      I'd like to know how really Afrikaans areas like Ventersdorp and Potch are ANC...

  • JohannV - 2011-05-19 11:06

    "results slips were be filled out and these were be transported" WTF??? Should it be "were BEING...?" The mind boggles!

      Marcell - 2011-05-19 11:16

      What do you expect, 62% uneducated :)

  • cj.venter - 2011-05-19 11:08

    i'm not a pessemist by sayign this, but the DA won't win everywhere, but at least the areas they have won will show the others that the DA delivers, and the ANC will have a fire under their asses to start doing what we pay them to do. either way the people will win in the end. woohoo.

      Marcell - 2011-05-19 11:17

      It only took 12 people to bring the Roman empire down.

      Martin du Plessis - 2011-05-19 11:18

      Of course they won't win everywhere, thats not pessimisim, thats realisim. The people are starting to realize there is better than the ANC out there, but it's going slowly.

  • windkind - 2011-05-19 11:08

    Editor - reread the piece and fix the pathetic grammar please.

      Mike - 2011-05-19 11:15

      Here, here. Quality of writing generally on this site leaves much to be desired. Whoever wrote this article should be shot! "When the counting was completed, results slips were be filled out and these were be transported to municipal IEC offices for the capturing of the results." What the...?

      Soapbox - 2011-05-19 11:22

      Mike - Hear! Hear!

      alexander.lombard - 2011-05-19 11:58

      I doubt that editing takes place. Remember this is news as it happens not print media who will only run todays stories tomorrow. But yes grammer is bad on this site. But then again so is mine and I am educated.

      alexander.lombard - 2011-05-19 11:59

      ps. You are getting this for free. Be constructive.

      Oil painter - 2011-05-19 12:16

      Yes an editor is required. However to Mike, if you are so keen on the correctness of others perhaps you may care to apply it to yourself: the expression Hear hear, is a shortened term of hear him, hear him. It is often misspelt as Here here. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hear,_hear I find that far more annoying than what looked like a mucked up hasty typo that got through. It happens, at least you understood and got the news fast online.

      Soapbox - 2011-05-19 12:23

      Oil Painter - Hear! Hear!

  • Notbuyinface - 2011-05-19 11:09

    A know a lot of analysts who will get stomach aches cos of this result, especially those wished and prayed the ANC lose support.Sorry to disaapoint a lot of you.

      changeisGood - 2011-05-19 11:57

      I cannot wait for a VICTORY Party/(parties) accross the country with an excerption for Zilleville.........Cde Mbalula please can you start announcing the vanues, we knew it was going to turn out this way. those who didn't do not understand the masses needs and they never will!

      Rianda - 2011-05-19 12:43

      @Notbuyinface and changeisGood (again) I think we need to get an editor here as well, I am really struggling to decipher/read your comments... Maybe first type in Microsoft Word and do a spell and grammar check before posting?

      changeisGood - 2011-05-19 12:49

      Rianda, I do not give a toss about a petty spelling mistake, maybe I must start typing in Zulu. Idiot, it's not about the fkcn spelling mistake, it goes to show how shallow you are by judging people based on a spelling mistake.

      Rianda - 2011-05-19 13:49

      If you want people to understand what you are trying to say, make sure they can read and understand it... Just some advise, use it, don't use it... No judging from my side ;)

      ir8m8 - 2011-05-19 13:50

      i think it was stupid for anyone to beleive that the DA could win against a tribal mentality! The Rural and township vote was going to be there downfall from the beginning. But you get what you vote for (Party's and T-shirts), so here's to another 5 years of absolute no service delivery for Ekhuruleni at least...maybe we should now tackle the legality of witholding our taxes when there are no services.

  • kolobe - 2011-05-19 11:10

    it was earlier claimed da gained 6% of votes from the anc.majorly the id made the elction difference in cpt followed by cope. anc still intact

      Mike or Mpho - 2011-05-19 11:19

      AS long as the ANC is a monority in WC, it is all good. An overwhelming majority win for the DA is not good for the WC, there should always be a close race for the leading party and the opposition party, this is the only way that the municipaliites will be forced to deliver and do waht they are paid to do.

  • PaulChinchen - 2011-05-19 11:10

    Tick, tock...

  • cristinatjie - 2011-05-19 11:11

    So many of my black friends are unhappy with the ANC but still voted for them, because they are scared that when the DA wins that the white people will rule again and that apartheid come back, how can we explain to them that this will never ever happen and that we want a democratic country without any colour and people singing about killing other people, and the DA is not a white party but a democratic party for ALL. Helen Zille dis more for the freedom fight than most black ANC politicians!!!! Why is it so difficult to understand this ??? Thet ANC is racist !!!

      Roger - 2011-05-19 11:16

      voter education, the ANC is not the goverment, just a party like all the others, although with a strong majority of the vote. The goverment decides on whom receives a grant, not the ANC.

      Rudi van Schalkwyk - 2011-05-19 11:35

      I unfortunately agree with Mduduzi! It's still going to take a veeeeeeeery long time to get rid of the past. :-(

      brazach - 2011-05-19 11:37

      whites have a reputation of being racist. apartheid was imposed and introduced in this country by whites, why should we trust, thats why. blacks are not shortsighted we can think for ourselves. a white man advicing blacks has a motive, its a fact. right now they just want our votes nothing else, then we will know their true colours again...we are not that stupid.

      Thabiso - 2011-05-19 11:44

      @Cristinatjie - I'm black and educated enough to understand what you are saying, but the masses out there are far from accepting that as a reality. I for one did not vote because I'm not happy with ANC and voting for a white woman is not an option for me, for now. I guess one vote less for the ANC is still an advantage for the opposition.

      inyaniso@24.com - 2011-05-19 11:51

      The tide is changing. Don't worry. The DA needs to keep doing what it is doing. Hopefully they win some more strategic wards across teh Western Cape on a majority and get the opportunity to govern the entire region they way they intend. This will be the only way they can show all the people of this nation that they mean business in looking after this country for all who live in it. Holding onto the midvaal was very strategic to this cause too. If they can get another key ward in another region and SUPER deliver there too, then the tide will QUICKLY flow their way. By then their internal structures of empowering people through experience and proper knowledge transfer will mean they will be more representative too. Exciting times!

      Cornix - 2011-05-19 11:54

      Mduduzi, that is a gross generalisation to make. At least the DA is doing a good job to turn some of that hate around, albeit bit by bit. I hope one day most black people will see that (the majority of) whites are not bad people. Don't hate us all because a small number made it difficult for you.

      changeisGood - 2011-05-19 12:00

      @cristinatjie It's all about who do you trust, the DA can tell us all nice things they are going to do if we Vote for them, the big question is do we as black people beleive what Helen Zille is telling us?

      Zion - 2011-05-19 12:07

      Mduduzi, Dead right first time. Your comment has just clarified a point to moot, namely: Black people are just as racist and probably even more so than Whites. That may be the root cause of all the problems in this 3rd world country.

      Marx - 2011-05-19 12:10

      Mduduzi, Thanks for clearing up that well known fact, maybe you should convey that message to your, so called, democratic leaders !! All the ANC have left is the past and racism. The DA however, believes in the future and a better life for all South Africans!!

      Zion - 2011-05-19 12:11

      Rudi van Schalkwyk, The past is extremely convenient because it is the sink that soaks up the blame and the incompetence of those who insist on dwelling in past. The old story in brief: lack of accountability and integrity and social maturity.

      ZipZap - 2011-05-19 12:21

      u cant , they are mostly id10ts.

      Zion - 2011-05-19 12:23

      OLIBO. Now that is what I call the greatest pot snot that I have ever heard. No South Africans, Whites, have ever passed laws relating to apartheid prior to 1961. Simply because, my friend, 1961 was the year of independence and Britain was the colonial power and the Administrator general (British) had to accept or veto any legislation passed by the NP government. Despite the fact that the NP came into power in 1948 they were still under the crown. So, if you have an issue it is best you take it up with the British government and the Dutch government. It is very clear indeed that you are simply ranting the usual ANC indoctrination propaganda and have not the faintest knowledge of SA history.

      Chocks - 2011-05-19 12:40

      @Cristinatjie, i am one of the black people that are unhappy with the ANC. I wanted to vote for the DA but I eventually chose not to vote at all. I am not afraid that apartheid will come back. I just think that most DA supporters still think black people are stupid. Whenever a black person posts a comment defending the ANC, BEE or AA the comments would go on insulting black people in general. And a black person would reply saying; "I am an educated Black Person....." I am against the ANC, but when someone defends it for their own reasons they should not be labelled as stupid and ignorant citizens who dont pay tax. Until we get to a point where I dont have to say to a white person: "I am an educated Black person..." I will not be voting for the DA

      ir8m8 - 2011-05-19 13:54

      @brazach, oh and xenophopian attacks were what exactly, how many died?, i think we all need to look in the mirror and agree that the one is as racist as the next.

      Liberated - 2011-05-19 15:20

      As is your former white government ever did anything for blacks. we are better of with ANC. Atleast it anabled us to live, study and worked in your so called white schools or areas.VIVA ANC VIVA

  • tkotze - 2011-05-19 11:12

    DA, Cope, IFP, ACDP, FF+ etc, please just do a good enough job come next election that you keep the ANC <66% in parliament so that they can't touch the constitution and will rely on the existing constitution to bend the rules, please.

  • Khubza - 2011-05-19 11:14

    20yrs ago, there was no transperancy in the government and the corruption was actually worse than now, but hey, you ask questions about the government, you get arrested

      Mike or Mpho - 2011-05-19 11:20

      Kubuza, you a speculating. Not doubt was there corruption 20 years ago, but not this widespread and not this blatant.

      Marcell - 2011-05-19 11:23

      Khubza: Yes, there were corruption. The only difference is that the friend that got the tender did what he was paid to do and pocket what was LEFT over.

      Umshini Wam - 2011-05-19 12:05

      Mduduzi my brother unfortunately you have been led to believe like all of us, that this land is our land. But it isnt, we are also settlers in this land once inhabited by the san and khoi-san peoples. We are from further north my brother. Cant we just accept that there is no way to justify taking land from anyone today because hundreds of years ago it may or may not have belonged to a great great great great grandfather or random tribes chief. Just my 2c.

      ihtfcatkii - 2011-05-19 12:12

      @ Mduduzi Kubheka - Man you can make alot of unsubstantiated noise! STFU

      ZipZap - 2011-05-19 12:22

      ja, do it now, and you a racist. bleh

      Zion - 2011-05-19 12:30

      Ja,Ja Khubza: Do yourself a favour and research corruption in NP governments history. There was exactly one case and that was the info scandal. In that case the aim was not for personal gain but to remain in power. Khubza, when firing from the hip try not to shoot yourself in the foot. If there was fraud, which we cannot know or prove then it was for a few paltry rands not Millions as are the order of the day, today.

      ir8m8 - 2011-05-19 14:01

      So everyone thats does not like your comment actually beleives that the NP of old was above board, did you people not watch the TRC hearings?, or were just not interested in hearing how our all power nat. goverment were not actually as "holier than thou" as we perceived them to be. Wake Up White SAFFERS, we may not have liked Apartheid, hell i was not even alive when it came into being, but we kept those morons in power, we held them there because we beleived all the scary stories they told us about the black man. Meanwhile back at the ranch most of them were just covering their own bastardly sordid acts. where are all those politicians now, Dead!, or retires, rich and wealthy or their families are and we are fighting as a minority, do you think that Mn Meyer and his co-horts gave a damn about the whitees that came after 94. They just wanted to make sure a deal was sealed that kept them out of the gallows and out of prison. The Rest is History. Wake Up!!!

      Zion - 2011-05-19 14:27

      Ir8m8, Please be so kind as to indicate to whom are you referring to.

  • spetsnazss - 2011-05-19 11:18

    i think only people with a certain IQ level should be allowed to vote ! HA HA HA Our gardener told us if he did not vote ANC the ancestors would punish him !

      Marcell - 2011-05-19 11:27

      heheheh, now the ancestors are going to punish him even more!

      Owami - 2011-05-19 11:31

      how does it feel to be trounced by those with a low IQ? what does that make you?

      Voidy - 2011-05-19 11:33

      I say they should give all people an amount of votes according to the tax they pay. That gives you a right to decide what really happens to your tax money.

      Louis - 2011-05-19 11:38

      Only people that contributes to South Africa should be able to vote.

      VM1 - 2011-05-19 11:52

      @spetsnazss My Gardener says he feels punished already by his ancestors as they were greedy and looked out for only their own - now he cannot get another job except for gardening which he calls "landscaping" by the way he is a white man in his 40's.

      Alibaba - 2011-05-19 12:00

      Many educated Christians also pray to find out where they should draw the cross. That is equally backward.

      changeisGood - 2011-05-19 12:31

      It's people like you that I will not regret voting the ANC even if they fail to deliver, your comments are derogatory, show no respect and you ask yourself why we vote ANC, i like coming out superiour all the time, what it next year in 2012 we are going to push for Julius Malema and now you will understand, not because we beleive in him, simply have people like you feel the heat even more. Julius Malema for President.

      Zion - 2011-05-19 12:39

      OWAMI: No problem: We understand the sums, the numbers and the Statistics.That the DA can never have a 66% landslide victory but we sure see the pain in your eyes when the DA grabs the Midvaal, Cape Town and some others. And we also see the pain in your eyes when the DA receives more votes than the whites in the entire country. Eina.

      changeisGood - 2011-05-19 12:43

      I typed my previous comment with a lot of anger and made countless spelling mistakes and have just seen the message will not come out the way I would want it to, this comment is directed at spetsnazss, your comment shows no respect to others, I can see you are from a family with no values It is your parents that tought you that black people are less human, let me tell you something you will never understand, A Black person will always carry his/her pride everywhere they go, regardless how you degrate them and to us loyalty means everything to those who are/were good to us.....you misjudge our loyalty to the ANC for stupidiy and the fact that we still have memories of the past as being even more stupid. I laugh because you will never understand us for who we really are. anyway I feel like I am wasting my time by responding to your silly comment, All I must keep on doing is to Vote for the pary that has my interest at heart, history has shown.I will for sure share this with my kids and make sure they understand the facts.

      Igenatius - 2011-05-19 13:20

      @ Changeisgod - Pride and ego are the downfalls of humanity. Loose the pride and ego and gain a teachable and loving spirit. Not agreeing with spetsnazss, people should not respond to such pathetic ignorance and lack of understanding.

      ir8m8 - 2011-05-19 14:04

      And this is exactly why they hate us...because you have not even begun to try and understand his culture or his beleifs, instead you critisize and make fun of. Your Helping, really you are!!!!

  • avhasei - 2011-05-19 11:21

    ANC is a brand not some blue dress party, ANC will rule and DA will follow its not new. viva ANC viva, we love you JZ.

      Voidy - 2011-05-19 11:34

      Another brainless grunt

      Louis - 2011-05-19 11:39

      Go and make fire with two sticks

      Gooi die klippe - 2011-05-19 11:55

      @Voidy - Please check your spelling, you tiped "gr" instead of "c"

      Marcell - 2011-05-19 11:56

      Calm has returned to the Sicelo township in the Midvaal after ANC supporters threatened to burn down the shacks of DA supporters. They are angry that the DA has claimed victory in that region taking nine wards.

      ZipZap - 2011-05-19 12:25

      ja, im sure he loves you tooo, and your wife and daughters. but its ok, he will give them taxi money

      cristinatjie - 2011-05-19 12:58

      Please tell us exactly what about the ANC you love, so that we can understand ????

  • bitelec1 - 2011-05-19 11:23

    History has shown time and again that revolutionaries seldom make good evolutionaries. The ANC successfully revolutionised our country, and for that they should be commended. However, the revolution is now over, and the country now desperately needs to move on to the next stage in the process of becoming a truly great country, namely Evolution. If the ANC wants to be part of this evolution they should retire the revolutionaries and rethink their game plan.

      Rastus - 2011-05-19 11:43

      Successfully revolutionised our country! On what donkey?

  • Owami - 2011-05-19 11:24

    The psych of News24 readers is fascinating. Punt for DA to win...when that proves not to work, resort to calling the electorate gullible and stupid etc. When that fails, bring in the rhetoric of banana republic and zimbabwe. It is exactly this attitude that makes most of us - despite the shortcomings of the ANC - vote for the ANC. Call us what you will. If going around thinking that the minority is more gifted mentally than the average voter, suit yourself. We will continue voting for the ANC. It is for us, it is us. It understands us without patronizing. Until you get that, the voting profile will remain the same.

      Snoopy - 2011-05-19 11:30

      Remember - you get what you vote for! Now don't go and toyi-toyi in the streets and break down and burn anything that still stands when you are unhappy with the 'service delivery' that was promised to you just before the elections! And please don't flock to DA controlled councils where things will be running efficiently...

      Moi1980 - 2011-05-19 11:40

      @Owami - "It understands us without patronizing." Vote for the anc or the ancestors will punish you. Vote for the anc means you'll go to heaven. Yes, that's not at all patronizing.

      Louis - 2011-05-19 11:44

      I actually understand what you are saying , but it is so frustrating to give the ANC the right to basically do what the want. I truly thing that the ANC don,t deserve to govern this country any more.

      Jerome Cupido - 2011-05-19 11:46

      Your psych...unfascinating... rather gullible and blind...

      mminakgomo - 2011-05-19 11:46

      Frankly it amazes me how rediculing the black population will lure them to the DA. Why would I want to be in a party were I'm constantly reminded that I could never measure to the intellectual capacity of the melanin disadvantaged folks? Please dont tell about the "but you are different to THEM" nonsense. Any conscious black person is and should be reviled by being told that he is better than other black folks. The DA loses because of the stinking attitudes of its supporters.

      ZipZap - 2011-05-19 12:27

      hahahaha, until intelligence fails.... classic african diatribe. sadly its lost in africa, no intelligence here, just racist a$$holes with simba chips on their shoulders...

  • Molemo ? - 2011-05-19 11:24

    without black votes DA is going nowhere slowly

      Jerome Cupido - 2011-05-19 11:43

      But they are not going nowhere slowly guy...

      Soapbox - 2011-05-19 11:47

      Molemo, I fully agree. I know I am going to be lambasted for what I am going to write now. I think that the DA will do a lot better if they get a black to represent them instead of Helen. She is excellent but unfortunately the wrong color. The people of SA wants an opposition to the ANC but will not vote for a "white" (Zille) party.

      ZipZap - 2011-05-19 12:28

      soapbox: you are 100% correct. the majority of black people vote based on colour, i.e. racist. until they think the DA is black and racist, it will never win. unfortunately it wont come to be, so we will continue to fight for a country that has long ago been thrown to the dogs.

      Marx - 2011-05-19 12:32

      There are voters changing to the DA, and if they keep up and do what they promise, things will get better. Notice, I didn't use the B or W word, we are all equal. Everyone deserves basic services, work opportunities and a better life. The day goverment starts educating people to work for a future, not wait for hand-outs and grants from goverment, things will change drasticly!!

      cristinatjie - 2011-05-19 13:01

      Soapbox - 100% correct, it shows only one thing, black people can shout racist very quickly but they are racist to vote on colour !!!!! I dont care what colour a person is when voting for a better life, if the ANC had a able leader I would have voted for them.

      Educated - 2011-05-19 13:39

      That's true. Black people are far too racist in this country to vote otherwise. Hopefully in the future it will change. Just like the whites figured out that racism doesn't work and got rid of it many years ago, so too will the black people one day.

  • epherb - 2011-05-19 11:31

    Its not about the grammer, its about the opinion!

  • MadeInAS - 2011-05-19 11:31

    Hai mani these white people keep on doing the VIVa thing like th know what it means,I tave some thing for to use PHANTSI NGE DA PHANTSI!! Ohh by the way i suggest you run to the maid or the gardener for translation.Fools!!!!!

      Marc Daniel Davies - 2011-05-19 11:46

      Down with the DA, down!?!? You're a fool yourself. I speak your language and didn't need a helper or gardener to translate. ANC fools.

      Dan18 - 2011-05-19 11:56

      "Vive" is French... Do you really know what it means? Especially when you (and most people) can't even spell it correctly?

      ZipZap - 2011-05-19 12:30

      hahahahahaha, madeinSA surely? or just made in ass? did your stupid fingers miss something your brain didnt even bother sending? sheesh, and these are our future "leaders" LOL

      Educated - 2011-05-19 13:41

      Who cares what it means. If it came from you it's probably derogatory in some way.

      Buzzbar - 2011-05-19 14:11

      MadeInAS, you keep doing this computer thing like you know what it means... I have somehing for you to use - F-Off. I suggest you run into the street, find the biggest man you can and ask for a translation - or demonstration.

  • Ash - 2011-05-19 11:31

    http://www.news24.com/maps?year=2011 This here people is a map of intelligence levels. Areas marked in blue shows where a majority of intelligent people are. The orange area's show where the majority of gullible people are, you know those people who believed that if they didn't vote ANC Madiba would get ill or the ancestors would be mad at them.

  • PresentlyDisadvantaged - 2011-05-19 11:33

    This country can only become truely democrating once all those who lived during apartheid have passed and those living do not blame and accuse. This way voters can and will vote based on sound judgement of political parties and not as they do now based on, well, blame and hatred. I imagine many a previously disadvantaged person, when it comes to putting the X on the ballot sheet, would understandably rather vote for the saviours of freedom (ANC), regardless of whether they think they can govern or not, as opposed to the new face of the NP (DA). Which the DA is not, but unfortunately people have been encouraged to believe this (and will easily believe) and/or have concluded this themselves, because people need a "face" to blame and continue fighting against, as they did during apartheid (who better than the DA right?). Unfortunately there are those in the public light still perpetuating the "struggle" and hatred of that time and instilling it in the youth... guess who?

      Educated - 2011-05-19 13:44

      The problem is that most people who had anything to do with apartheid have already passed. This is a whole new brainwashed generation who were all lead to believe that white people are evil. Most of them hate us but don't even know why because that's just the way it is.

      PresentlyDisadvantaged - 2011-05-19 14:24

      **This country can only become truely democratic....

  • shakie - 2011-05-19 11:35

    Why is it that each time ANC win mostly white people categorize blacks who voted for ANC as less intellect, illiterate,idiots, corrupt, gullible, uneducated etc? Does it really mean that voting for DA means u are the opposite?People, be SMART and have some internal soul search - it is not all about DA, you need to respect other people who voted against your wish - u should feel ashem thinking that the party u support MUST win or be voted by all - this is the new RSA and each citizen has the right to vote, whether it be FFPlus, IFP, DA or ANC et al.,.We need to respect what people have voted irrespective of their religion, gender,color etc - until u accept that there are people who think different than u, look different than u,love different things than u love - then u will remain a slave to your mind.RSA is alive with possibilities, for u to enjoy - u need to firstly respect another person irrespective of WHO he/she voted for.If ANC win, its cool because majority voted them inn, If DA win, its cool because majority would have voted them inn - so get a life and respect MZANI's choice of politics.

      Ash - 2011-05-19 11:46

      I understand, what you are saying and I respect it. However "Because I am black" , "Because the ancestors will be mad", "Because they will bring back apartheid", "Because DA is for Whites", "Because if I dont Madiba will get sick", are stupid, gullible, racist reasons to vote for ANC.

      ZipZap - 2011-05-19 12:31

      u have to be stupid to vote anc. simple isnt it. tomorrow we start with the alphabet.

      Buzzbar - 2011-05-19 14:14

      Quote: " Does it really mean that voting for DA means u are the opposite?". Yes it does. What the hell is Mzani? Some type of new STD?

  • freddie van eyk - 2011-05-19 11:36

    Not to bring race into it but unfortunately that is the way it is. Until the DA gets a strong black leader they will not get significant support from the black people.

      ZipZap - 2011-05-19 12:32

      to blacks its all about race. that IS the way it is. vote based on race = racist. simple

  • Rihan Kleyn - 2011-05-19 11:37

    The DA will be the only major party to grow in this election

  • Ashlee - 2011-05-19 11:40

    DA all the way! whoooo hooooo! Helen Zille is awesome!

      Ms Mbova - 2011-05-19 11:57

      Ashlee, what is so awesome about Zille? really now! Can't stand the fact that she makes a point of being photographed hugging and kissing black people, what a pretender!!!

      Buzzbar - 2011-05-19 14:16

      @ Ms Mbova - the fact that she holds her staff accountable for... Oh, why do I even bother. I can have a more intelligent debate with my JapsEYE

  • changeisGood - 2011-05-19 11:41

    halfway mark and 62% of the population is showing who they prefer, with a big emphasis on the work prefer, as the people's government!

  • Martin - 2011-05-19 11:43

    To every DA supporter out there!!!!! We need to reconsider our attitude if we wish this number to increase. We cannot respond/reply and make comments that insult black people and then expect them to vote DA. If we are true DA supporters, we need to act like our leaders and think before we speak. We need to show restraint, we need cool and calm comments. If we really want a better SA we need to think and act that way.

      Chocks - 2011-05-19 12:24

      @ martin, i strongly agree with you. I am black, I think the ANC government is not performing, and wanted to vote for the DA, but the comments done here are scarry. Not all, but most white people still think all blacks are "stupid murderes, and rapists". Having said that black people are not innocent, most still think all whites are racist.

      ZipZap - 2011-05-19 12:33

      lol - i.e. bow down to stupidity and racism? no thanks. I am DA and proud of it. And yes, you vote ANC you are stupid. you base your cote on colour and you are racist. why the double standards?

      Educated - 2011-05-19 13:49

      I agree with you Martin. Most blacks seem to be fine with racism as long as it's against another race and not themselves. In order to defeat it we need to start with ourselves. As impossible as the anc makes it to defeat racism, it still can be done.

  • ShakaN - 2011-05-19 11:46

    Eish I believe everything that the big chief tells me. Now let me go on strike for the money and the better job.

  • ........... - 2011-05-19 11:46

    DO NOT GO TO THIS SITE IT IS DISGUSTING AND INAPPROPRIATE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! www.lemonparty.biz

  • Marc Daniel Davies - 2011-05-19 11:47

    Bottom line is... DA improves in results with each election. One day, although perhaps distant, the DA will knock the ANC right off it's corrupt, racist feet.

  • Ntebo More - 2011-05-19 11:52

    people did not vote for ANC because they are uneducated, they voted because they rather let ANC eat the money than Dumb Ass, I proudly voted for ANC and I'm not stupid because we have service deliveries where I live

      Educated - 2011-05-19 13:51

      ...and of course you hate white people, let's not forget that either.

      Buzzbar - 2011-05-19 14:20

      Eish, these service deliveries, how often to they make them ? every week? What do they deliver with the service ? Not stupid my a$$.

  • L24 - 2011-05-19 11:56

    You can vote for whichever party you want to but you also have to accept the services you receive. So while you're negotiating potholes while driving to work and your garbage is piling up in your streets, etc.... I will happily keep paying my taxes (and a little bit extra to help pay for services in my local informal settlement as most of us do). I'll be negotiating my way through roadworks (which I don't mind as at least I see where my taxes are being spent), I'll walk around in clean streets, breathe fresh air while good-naturedly joking with my neighbours (who are all different colours). I'll hardly give the racist comments about blacks hating whites or the other way round a second thought because that is your reality, not mine. My day to day reality is that we are all more alike as human beings than different and we CAN all get along and live harmoniously and respect one another as people if we choose to. Hating others keeps YOU enslaved in hate so I could never vote for a party that incites division along racial lines. Where I live, we have our differences but we are united as..... yep, you guessed it.... CAPETONIANS!

  • Neil - 2011-05-19 11:58

    When the counting was completed, results slips were be filled out and these were be transported to municipal IEC offices for the capturing of the results. Was the writer drunk? Very poorly written article.

  • Matsolo - 2011-05-19 12:00

    23.78% of the population are gullible and racist.

      Buzzbar - 2011-05-19 14:22

      Correct. And the other 38% that voted for the ANC are just plain stoooopid!

  • Phutie - 2011-05-19 12:02

    I now know that most people in this forum are DA cos always they bash the ANC.Even logic and democracy doesn't matter.the people can never be fooled they shall just vote for the party they love ANC

      Ntebo More - 2011-05-19 12:18

      I agree with you phitie, they are DumbAss

  • eh - 2011-05-19 12:15

    I pay my taxes, try to live an honest and decent life off my OWN energies. The more stupid my fellow citizens are the wealthier I will get. So no the elections will inconvenience but not hurt me. To the poor, have kept voting for the same moraly corrupt people, you will get the same results. From now on my not insiderable charity will go to those who in the past have paid their dues and are now too old to help themselves. If 20 families can move to the city and build themselves shack, can they not then close a toilet? May your forefathers, feed, educate and clothe you. eh

  • ngs - 2011-05-19 12:25

    call us stupid ,gullible,insane or whatever.Its is for the very same reason that we(blacks) will never vote for a white man,because to you a black man will always be inferior to wyou(whites)Leave us and our dirty townships,it's fine.Stay in your surbubs with high walls.we dont care.We shall never give our freedom to a white man and you can kick scream and shout AND call us names ,we simply DONT GIVE A SH*T

  • Savage150 - 2011-05-19 12:40

    From what I can understand, the masses believe that a vote for the "White Party" will allow the past mistakes (like Apartheid) to be repeated. Granted this is democracy in action, but if you add just enough fear to the mistrust then people will vote for you no matter how corrupt or poor you perform. That is hume nature.

  • PO_zn - 2011-05-19 12:44

    Hmmmmm sad to have experienced the underhand and illegal activities during yesterdays elections by the ANC. Im a DA councillor and it was actually amusing and heartsore to have witnessed the way the ANC were canvassing at the polls yesterday within the IEC boundries. In my ward unofficially the ANC won hands down due to numerous reasons, but cummon why would the ANC use illegal tactics to win the election, well 1 answer only. Scared of the opposition which is the DA and is growing rapidly..... Its a pity the majority of the people still believe the "promises of the ANC" sooner or later the younger generation and the educated will smell the coffee and realise how bad the ANC really is. I was and still thankfull to the ANC for granting us democracy but now there needs to be change, new blood needed to move forward. I congratulate the ANC on winning my ward in which i contested, and my challange to you the ANC is to deliver those houses and infrastructure that you have promised the people over the last 3 to 4 days and up till the election day as well as all the other promises u the ANC had made to the masses............. Heres to a better SA....... prove me wrong ANC let us see how ull DELIVER, cause remember the DA we not far behinde and WE DELIVER FOR ALLL!!!!!!!! p.s im not a white.........

      Educated - 2011-05-19 14:02

      Well said and yes it's sad to see all the cheating that the anc get away with. It's even sadder to see people with ethics and morals following them blindly knowing that they're ruining this country. I applaud the DA's efforts to always do the right thing especially when their opposition only have racism and hate to sell the masses. Keep gaining support and hopefully enough contrast will one day sway the voters to start building their country instead of destroying it. Thank you.

  • JD1984 - 2011-05-19 12:49

    I've heard from black people, how Apartheid apparently affected the black youth of today because they were "born disadvantaged". Shame! So were many other people (non whites and whites alike), this Country doesn't owe you free housing, free land or jobs that you aren't qualified to do. You have to work for everything you want like the rest of us. It can't be handed to you for past wrongs. No one owes you a damn thing! The sooner you realise that, the sooner we can look at real issues affecting our country! Before 1994 it was safe to walk in our streets! Kids could play in the road, I grew up in that era. Now kids play behind steel gates. Change starts here! You want equality but you don't want to work together with one another. This is "OUR" country! Share it. You can't be angry (jealous) because you didn't grow up with the things other kids had. How can you be 100% sure that this is due to Apartheid? That argument doesn't even make sense! People rose above it their hardships! How do you suppose your ANC came into play? Life throws you curve balls, has its up's and down's, THAT'S LIFE! If you're hating because of history, then you deserve what comes with it, when the ANC takes our Country down with it. Bringing Apartheid up at every opportunity, when you weren't directly affected by it, is pathetic! Leave the past where it is! Blacks hate everyone that isn't black. Coloureds are the minority! Lets get one thing clear, Black people are the real racists!

  • BongiB - 2011-05-19 12:53

    When I read all the comments, I am saddened by the amount of intolerance that is still evident in SA. Where some resort to calling others names because of the party they voted for. The apartheid system was founded on the belief that some people were better than others. It is clear that we are still not very far from that reality. I pray for change, but not just in the government’s service delivery, but most importantly in the hearts of SA's man and women. Where we can learn to appreciate the differences, and use them to try and better ourselves and the Country we live in.

      Savage150 - 2011-05-19 12:57

      Spot on.

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