Western Cape faces hung councils - ANC

2011-05-19 11:46

Cape Town - Western Cape ANC leader Marius Fransman said on Thursday morning that the province's rural areas were heading for a "a lot of hung councils" and it was still anybody's guess who had won the Cape Town metro.

"In the rural areas we won some and we lost some. There will be a lot of hung councils," he said, listing Oudtshoorn, Swellendam and Worcester among these. "The metro, we don't know," Fransman said.

Democratic Alliance MPs David Maynier and James Selfe said their party was drawing hope that it could clinch the metro from high turnout figures.


"In some areas the turnout was approaching figures in the national elections", which traditionally draws far greater numbers than local polls, Maynier said.

Selfe said the turnout in DA strongholds in the southern suburbs, the city bowl and a large swathe of the Cape Flats shot over 70% in some wards.

"All depends on what the turnout was in those areas that are the opposite of DA strongholds," he said.

Selfe said ANC mayoral candidate for Cape Town Tony Ehrenreich had fought a "very concerted campaign", but DA information on voting on the Cape Flats showed that he had failed to win over coloured voters.

IEC spokesperson Trevor Davids said it hoped to have provisional results for all parts of the province by early evening.

"The metro is still largely outstanding. We are really pushing for the end of this day and hope to have a provisional result for the province," he said.

  • crocoros - 2011-05-19 11:52

    Jimmy Manyi your comments about the over concentration of "COLOUREDS" in the Cape showed the the ANC just exactly how damaging his words were. Viva DA viva. Long live Helen Zille.

      Marcus Westin - 2011-05-19 12:12

      kolobe: Your obviously one of the uneducated masses who support fraud and corruption.

      stukyster - 2011-05-19 12:25


      Enough! - 2011-05-19 12:26

      yes and it sad that he still holds his position in government like so many other corrupt leaders just there for power their own pockets, Juju included!

      Jo - 2011-05-19 12:38

      Kolobe: if you won the lotto, or someone sent you a gift - would you refuse the money if the postman was white? No. Because no-one cares what colour the delivery man/woman is - it's all about what they deliver.

      abe1wp - 2011-05-19 12:47

      Nicely said crocoros. The coloured vote determines who wins in the Western Cape for sure. That statement just showed where the heart of the ANC was. I think people still waited to see if the ANC would act against Jimmy, but nothing.

  • saabnut - 2011-05-19 11:57

    The metro will be fairly and squarely DA, end of story.

      Matt - 2011-05-19 12:05

      Watch out for the ANC contesting the outcome like last time

      Creeky - 2011-05-19 13:44

      Lets hope the BALLOTS won't be counted over and over again, until the "RIGHT" party wins! The DA should walk away as the eventual winners.... FAIR AND SQUARE if you ask me!

  • Zizo Snr - 2011-05-19 12:02

    I am waiting for the coloured vote when De Lille joins the ANC before 2014. She betrayed Capetonians before, she will do it again. DA will see red in WC in 2014.

      Rob Gunning - 2011-05-19 12:09

      By red do you mean communism, bloodshed or Man united?

      liesl - 2011-05-19 12:10

      Whose red? IFP?

      Point Blank - 2011-05-19 12:18

      So you saying she has no right to go elswhere which she believes will better serve people? She must stay where she is because you think so?? HAHAHAHAH!!!!

      schmurtle - 2011-05-19 12:21

      Lindiwe will be the next president Sizo, De lille and zille will be entering their golden years and leaving it to the young guns. you have no idea how much has been lost today. with coalitions and all other parties against what the ANC have provided. I suggest you keep the regalia of the ANC as it might be the last you will freely get your hands on. viva S.A for all viva!!

      Vive la Revolution - 2011-05-19 12:24

      Zizo Snr ...Given the fact that the DA actually governed the ID before de lille joined forces with Zille is indicative of the fact that the province's coloured population do not vote for a candidate based on their skin colour but rather on merit.

      WhoGivesAshi - 2011-05-19 12:25

      Wishful thinking, your useless ANC party will only go down hill from here. The people have spoken, they are tired of your shit

      Enough! - 2011-05-19 12:43

      No she wont!

      willieman - 2011-05-19 13:17

      You still base our politics on race, please wake this is 2011

      chris van rensburg - 2011-05-19 14:00

      Vodacom Red

      FRpower - 2011-05-19 14:10

      @Zizo Snr sounds like your smoking the green stuff,or your just very slow.

      Eric West - 2011-05-19 14:42

      schmurtle You had better explain to the cyber loafers from La Toolie House which Lindiwe you are talking about. They only know one Lindiwe - the one with the roadkill on her head! ;) BTW, I would be extremely happy if Lindiwe Mazibuko became the next leader of the DA. What a gutsy lady!

      Wix - 2011-05-19 16:08

      Ferrari Red????

  • matla - 2011-05-19 12:04

    9000000 votes for the ANC - IT MUST BE DOING SOMETHING GOOD!!!!

      SOMEONE123 - 2011-05-19 12:09

      Think i know - free tshirts, caps and food parcels! Oh almost forgot the empty promises!

      Jason - 2011-05-19 12:09

      Living on its liberation credentials.

      Mike or Mpho - 2011-05-19 12:11

      Yes, brain washing

      DW - 2011-05-19 12:15

      It is. It is promising free access to heaven and pleasing the ancestors. It is promising Madiba's health. It is making a whole lot of empty promises which people believe because they desparately want to believe it. If ONLY they would actually keep their promises.

      schmurtle - 2011-05-19 12:16

      yes, scaring the people of the wrath of their ancestors?!

      fotre - 2011-05-19 12:17

      They are, bullshitting all your brothers and sisters. But you are to stupid to see this - that's why all you idiots continue to vote for a party that steal from you, is as corrupt as hell. Eish!! What more can I say. So carry on voting for them, you might get into heaven - but you will have hell right here in SA under anc rule!!

      Point Blank - 2011-05-19 12:19

      Yep... Lying.

      MaanDonkie - 2011-05-19 12:26

      Ja they covering the they cover their corruption scandals.

      Tartan - 2011-05-19 12:35

      Nope, just stupid voters!

      Kevin - 2011-05-19 12:38

      Remember what the DA has . We have Zuma and Fatboy. As long as they are in the anc it is like the DA having its own free advertising campaign. Keep them and the DA will take Soweto in 2014

      Enough! - 2011-05-19 12:47

      yeah! kings of deceit, lies and corruption! why so many of us went to the DA this time. cause they delivered for all and will even more! FOR ALL! something the ANC will never admit!

      Andrew - 2011-05-19 12:50

      And when the ANC do not deliver, the protests starts all over again, and they still blame it on apartheid. Very sad.

      Me - 2011-05-19 12:59

      yes, making sure that the people remain uneducated enough to vote for them.

      goldilocks - 2011-05-19 13:04

      The "good thing" they did: they were born black. That is the appeal in a nutshell.

      corro51 - 2011-05-19 13:08

      Baa baa black sheep.

      vn2701 - 2011-05-19 13:29

      Yes - keeping the masses uneducated so they can keep voting for a party that betrays them, take advantage of them and lie to them.

      CraigColinRoyMcLeod - 2011-05-19 13:33

      @matla: Most Zulu people I have spoken to vote anc only because they will not vote for a party that has a white person at the helm, no other reason. No one could honestly say they vote ANC because they are doing good, the evidence of them doing nothing but bad is so abundant.

      Robschele - 2011-05-19 13:37

      Madiba was looking really depressed the other night after he voted at home. I think he is really worried about the direction his party is taking because they are definitely not on the original route he put them. The lady behind him tried to cheer him up but he didn't repond at all. Shame on ANC. They suck. Like they are sucking the country dry.

      Creeky - 2011-05-19 13:47

      "the ANC, she does not know 'mush' about the Delivery Service.... but I "LAAIK HIM" to much" "EISH"!!!! ANC MOTTO: "Keep 'em Stupid and Un-Educated... and they are VOTES IN THE BANK"!!!

      Creeky - 2011-05-19 13:49

      VOTINE for the ANC is like a CHICKEN voting FOR NANDO's!!!!

      Realist - 2011-05-19 13:55

      Majority of those voters are exactly where the ANC want them, uneducated and illiterate, incapable of letting go of the ANC as they see them as their freedom fighters, nothing else. And as long as the majority of the electorate vote based on their lack of education, but rather their life long loyalty to a party, the result will always be the same. The DA as can be seen, appeal to people who are not easily brainwashed, who vote for service delivery and expect it too!

      abrham - 2011-05-19 13:59

      15 000 000 grants every month - if that cannot buy you votes, what can

      Rob Gunning - 2011-05-19 14:21

      Yeah, propoganda and lies. They're pretty good at that.

      youngun - 2011-05-19 15:16

      want some gravy for your pap?

      Shees - 2011-05-19 15:33

      yes... they're good at manipulating, good at threatening, good at corruption....good at lying.... good at keeping the poor uneducated so they can have their vote forever...

      Wix - 2011-05-19 16:10

      ja, covering up the k*k...

      anned - 2011-05-20 09:02

      9000000 mushrooms in SA

      Boerseun - 2011-05-20 11:32

      Lying to the naive and racis majority is very easy to be good at.

  • Anton - 2011-05-19 12:04

    'still anybody's guess who had won the Cape Town metro' , what the hell are you on about? They have already won it you shoddy journalist. For the ANC to win from here they would have to get every vote left...

  • Schroeds - 2011-05-19 12:04 for a young voters view

  • Matt - 2011-05-19 12:06

    ANC = Ar$e Numbingly Corrupt

  • Amelam - 2011-05-19 12:09

    Part of the ANC's problem in the WC is Fransman who is a political light weight. The ANC had majorities in Worcester, Swellendam and Oudtshoorn. They lost Drakenstein, Witzenberg and Knysna - to name but a few and Fransman is proud that they did not lose outright in Worcester, Swellendam and Oudtshoorn. What an achievement Mr Leader!

      Enough! - 2011-05-19 12:55

      not many good leaders left in the ANC all together! ANC of today not the ANC of yesterday! and Malema will be the final nail in the coffin of the ANC! the hatred he is sowing now will be the hatred he will reap! two wrongs will never make a right! watch this space! he the reason I went DA all the way for the very first time ever!

      Roman Moroni - 2011-05-20 08:43

      I agree with you enough - what Malema is starting with the hatred he is sowing no-one will be able to stop. People keep harping on about the education levels of the guys voting for the ANC, and the tragedy is these eople are like children in many cases, they will believe what a fool like Malema tell them is the truth and act on it - this is not empty rhetoric. I hope I'm wrong. Good night and good luck!!!

      Rose - 2011-05-22 11:36

      The ONLY reason ANC did a 50/50 in Swellendam was because the DA did not put the right people in the municipality to manage it. The municipality will now hopefully have every point debated! This was a tradegy, but the voters have hoipefully made there point!

  • numero_uno - 2011-05-19 12:09

    i can't stop laughing at this headline, it belongs in the humour section! The only hung councils will come from previously ANC dominated municipalities.

      Kevin - 2011-05-19 12:40

      In future all well hung councils will be DA

  • alexander.lombard - 2011-05-19 12:12

    Does Swellendam and Outshorn fall under Cape-Town Metro?

      Almaki - 2011-05-19 12:25

      No. Quite far apart, in fact.

      DeonL - 2011-05-19 12:44

      Nope, about 200 km and 450 km from Cape Town.

      corro51 - 2011-05-19 13:10

      Only if you want it to be.

      JM - 2011-05-19 13:21


  • willieman - 2011-05-19 12:15

    Tony Ehrenreich had fought a "very concerted campaign", based on race that's ,why anc lost.stop racialising issues unnecessarily

  • SilentGenius - 2011-05-19 12:16

    Jealousy makes you a man and congratulate the winner, without any 'but' and 'if' statement!

  • Blip - 2011-05-19 12:18

    Fransman, you were a complete flop. There's no doubt at all -- your ANC got completely SMOKED by the DA. You didn't just lose -- you got thrashed.

      craig - 2011-05-19 15:53

      more like double penetrated

  • Mpumelo - 2011-05-19 12:19

    Special thanks must go to Jimmy Manyi for helping the people of the Western Cape decide who is racist and who isn't. His utterances have most definitely had a very positive and devastating effect in the way the people cast their votes. Well done Jimmy!

  • Igenatius - 2011-05-19 12:19

    These events are dreamt up in order to create conflict, to stop us from accepting the differences between people. The more time we spend being angry at one another the less we have to spend on productivity and development in a forward direction. Our growth is stagnant for this exact reason. All while the political cadres get rich (it doesn't matter who they are, they have the same motive, getting rich baby) at our expense.

  • MaanDonkie - 2011-05-19 12:22

    Something to consider "You cannot legislate the poor into freedom by legislating the wealthy out of freedom. What one person receives without working for, another person must work for without receiving. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them, and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for, that my dear friend, is about the end of any nation. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it." ~~~ Dr. Adrian Rogers, 1931

      william.botha - 2011-05-19 12:26


      Smaal - 2011-05-19 12:32

      I love this quote. Unfortunately reading and actually comprehending the message within is still very much a foreign concept to a lot of South Africans as is free thought.

      Margaret2 - 2011-05-19 13:06

      @ MaanDonkie - 1931 is the year Adrian Rogers was born. That quote is from a 1985 sermon which he preached.

  • Frankie - 2011-05-19 12:31

    Kolobe's comments always give me some kind of perverse "fix" that last for quite some time...knowing that there is always someone more stupid, clever, rich, poor, fat, thin, than myself. Having said that, I know it would be better of if him and his kind did not exist, maybe as lab rats, if at all. Imagine having to live anddeal with a person like him in real life??!! Like a nightmare turned into reality! Boy, do I count my blessings! And it's great to build the future with the DA! Looking forward to it...I feel VERY lucky in that respect!

  • regularguy - 2011-05-19 12:31

    Tony was net gebruik soos wat hulle destyds met Allan Boesak gemaak het. Omdat die Kleurling nog nie n Swarte vertrou nie, wou hulle vir Tony gebruik het as aas. Net jammer die Kapenaars is nie stupid nie !!! Ek wonder wat die heer Tony te se gaan he na vandag se uitslae want hy was doodseker hy sit vanmiddag in die Mayors Office lol

      Smaal - 2011-05-19 12:44

      Hahaha ja nee, daardie "Mayor parties" sal maar moet wag.

  • Neville - 2011-05-19 12:45

    Once again it is not about colour it is about service delivery and corruption we cannot vote for that VIVA DA

  • moodley - 2011-05-19 12:47

    Whoever is the 'victor, remember to say you 'byes now,as this is the last that will be seen and heard from them,until the next election.

      tammi2day - 2011-05-19 19:03

      Moodley, this is so true in the areas that the ANC won... fortunately the DA is in the business of governing and providing, not lying and stealing!

  • johan - 2011-05-19 12:54


  • Nkululeko - 2011-05-19 12:57

    ANC still has a lot of work to do. Look at the companies we work for, most if not all executives are white. What does that tell you? Apartheid is still there. DA is against affarmative action and I have a feeling that if were to govern they would scrap the AA laws and no black people will be employed. THIS IS SCARY!!!

      Mike or Mpho - 2011-05-19 13:03

      By what you have written, you are basically saying that if it wasn't for the AA, black people would be unemployable? That is rather pessimistic don't you think?

      DeonL - 2011-05-19 13:06

      Maybe these leaders are better trained to do theire jobs? Why don't you join the Aurora group as a worker, they are all blacks on doing "very well" with mines in SA. I hear a "few" unproductive farms also could do with workers.

      iceman1982 - 2011-05-19 13:09

      So you would rather have incompetent Blacks employed than competent whoevers, Just because its a matter of colour? Best man for the job....whether he is black or white. Only then the country will flourish again out of this downward rot.

      Wonderboy - 2011-05-19 13:09

      Stop talking rubbish and get real. That is absolutely NOT what it is all about.

      John - 2011-05-19 13:10

      No Nkululeko it tells me that by and large whites are the most competent executives. To stop the country descending in to the toilet that is the rest of post colonial Africa we need to have companies managed competently. You can't argue that Apartheid deprived black people of education, skills and knowledge (which it most certainly did) and then in the next breath demand that they be placed in positions where these are essential RIGHT NOW and with no process. For blacks to step up to the plate THEY need to transform - upskill, get motivated, put in a lot of hard work and experience a bit of stress.

      pd - 2011-05-19 13:20

      "most if not all executives are white. What does that tell you?" mmmm. good question. What does it tell you? Maybe there are nobody else good enough to do the job. Right?

      Dave Robbins - 2011-05-19 13:21

      Hi Nkululeko. Listen, I do understand your concern but remember that the average executive is in his late 40s/early 50s and has about 30 years of work experience. Due to Apartheid (Oh, and am I going to cop it in my ear about this!), the most educated and qualified person in that age bracket is still white. 20 years time it will be a different story but, for now, that is the person who will be in charge because of his/her experience. I would not suggest that you rely on the ANC to change that; rather go out and set up your own business which you have an interest in and from which you reap the benefits. Go for it!

      PB - 2011-05-19 14:06

      @Nkululeko Yes, "most if not all executives are white" - what that tells me is that those companies are well run and making profit. They are also the company owners who are providing work to those lazy "I Demand" AA so-called Workers who sit in their offices spewing crap on News24 instead of actually WORKING - Names such as Kolobe, Poliodonkey, etc comes to mind. Here is a little newsflash - unless you perform in your job, you can't make it to the top ... that is if you are white.

      Rob - 2011-05-19 14:48

      To get to the top, you need to start at the bottom. Which is what you and your ANC buddies seem to miss, time and time again by trying to legislate and force through equality at the highest levels while ignoring. Those execs aren't there because they were legislated into thier positions, they're there because they've spent 20+ years forging a career to get there. Do the same instead of looking for shortcuts and soon this will be a non issue.

      JustinD - 2011-05-19 15:02

      No it's just you that is doff to even consider something so stupid.

      Jessica Holloway - 2011-05-20 10:28

      How is Apartheid still there because some white people are in good position at companies? Ever think that they worked their asses off to be there? They didn't just walk into the position. You are obviously naive and suffer from tunnel vision.

      Boerseun - 2011-05-20 11:34

      No, it tells you that whites have been working very hard to get to the top, while you lot just wnat things for free. Rather shut up and get working for a change.

  • CALVIN KUNENE - 2011-05-19 12:58

    Why are we all fighting about who won & who lost, i mean we are all South Africans ANC,DA,IFP etc... I have voted for the ANC and i am happy that the DA is gaining some votes because i think that the ANC to be effective it needs a good opposition.

      Dave Robbins - 2011-05-19 13:24

      I like honesty and, while I might not agree with your choice, I respect your vote. And you have hit the nail on the head - democracy only works well when there is an effective opposition. And, dammit, we South Africans are a cut above the rest, aren't we?!

      Felix - 2011-05-19 13:31

      Good comment Calvin. So true!

      KnysnaSha - 2011-05-19 15:34

      @Wow Calvin, well said, opposition is good and keeps all on their toes. I think the ANC will most definitely stay in power but they could be a lot more effective if they had someone keeping them in check. Too much is being let slide at present.

      Rob - 2011-05-20 10:07

      Well said! Democracy is crucial

  • Koos - 2011-05-19 13:20

    Strong opposition is always a good thing. Someone needs to set benchmarks for measuring local government performance (read Cape Town, Midvaal). That's why the ANC are so power hungry - they want everything, so performance is measured by their mediocre standards. It's so much easier to sweep rubbish under the rug if you own the broom and the rug.

  • silverflash - 2011-05-19 13:22

    Lots of hatred being shown on this Blog . Ill never associate with a party that wants to trick the poor into voting for them. - 2011-05-19 13:39 need to hang with Malema to see hatred, his you buddy you side with...did maak so seer ne'...choppie...wipe away the tear in your eye and GO BACK TO WORK....

  • amabok - 2011-05-19 13:24

    more drivel from ANC - a freedom party that has failed to transition to a governing party and is now paying the price for their failures.

  • thetruth - 2011-05-19 13:25

    @ ZISO Snr yes many DA members will join the ANC like TONY LEON did,and he is now the South African ambassador to ARGENTINA...but under his profile the DA are still adamant that he is still a DA member...the DA also lost 4 members to the ANC just before the LG Elections(3 of them were white)

  • - 2011-05-19 13:35

    Tony Ehrenreich stop your whinning and crying, take it on the chin like amn from the Madam of the Cape.....

  • robertr - 2011-05-19 14:15

    This the first time I'm voting for the DA,I was a staunch ANC loyalist,but Pres. Zuma's reluctance to act against Malema,made me turn allegiance

  • gees-hey - 2011-05-19 15:26

    yor... the comments have so much hate... its election you choose & vote, nobody can tell you who to vote for. many comments about uneducated masses but clearly the so called educated masses commenting sounds really uneducated. its the coloured vote in CT, never in my life time will i see coloureds vote for blacks cos the whites to them are their bosses.

  • vtowntekkie - 2011-05-19 16:43

    Go DA!!!

  • deidre.swanepoel - 2011-05-20 11:01

    Marius Fransman you lost dude, wake up and smell the roses or should i say wake up and smell the rotten garbage in the rest of south africa where you failed the people. we will not let the western cape go down the same road as the rest of sa where you failed to deliver basic services to the people and now when it's election time, you dig deap and go back to the past to play on peoples emotions to gain votes, sorry dude in the western cape it did not work, you FAILED.

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