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Zille: Zuma, Malema creating racial division

2011-05-16 14:03

Johannesburg - President Jacob Zuma and ANC Youth League president Julius Malema were creating racial divisions in South Africa, DA leader Helen Zille said on Monday.

"Both President Zuma and Julius Malema did their best to divide South Africans on the basis of race," she said at the Bara Taxi Rank in Soweto, Johannesburg.

"The ANC made it quite clear: if you want racial division and failed service delivery you should vote for them."

Zille was referring to comments by the pair at the ANC's final election rally at the FNB stadium on Sunday.

‘Mandela’s values abandoned’

"They trampled on [former president] Nelson Mandela's vision of building one rainbow nation with one shared future."

"The ANC rally showed us all that the ANC has finally abandoned the values of Nelson Mandela."

At the rally, Malema labelled Zille a "madam" who "moves around doing a monkey dance looking for votes".

"We are going to take Cape Town from the madam, we are going to take Midvaal from the madam.

"Even the madam knows. As long as we are still alive, the freedom will be defended."

At the rally, Zuma said that white municipalities received well-developed services and infrastructure, while apartheid created underdeveloped townships and rural areas were deliberately deprived of resources.

Blind loyalty


In a last minute attempt to woo black voters on Monday, Zille told Soweto residents the Democratic Alliance had a lot to offer them.

"If you want a growing economy, real opportunities, improved service delivery, redress and reconciliation, the DA is the logical choice.

"There is not much you can do about the Chiefs and Pirates' performance this season, but there is something you can do about your government's."

She said a party that had failed them once would continue to fail them.

"That is why blind loyalty to a political party in a democracy is a bad thing. It allows corruption to flourish.

"It allows governments to get away with poor service delivery. It allows political parties to forget about the people and enrich themselves."

She asked residents to think about their vote wisely.

"Don't just give it away to the same party for old time's sake. Think about the future."

A change coming

She said South Africans were being neglected because the politicians in power believed their loyal voters would stick with them.

"If we don't break this cycle, we will never get anywhere.

"We are asking you to lend us your vote so that we can prove what we can do in government here."

She told voters that if they did not see a difference after five years, they could take their votes elsewhere in the next election.

She said South African would not be the same again after Wednesday when more than 23 million voters go to the polls in the country's fourth democratic municipal elections.

"The result in three metros hangs in the balance."

Comments
  • Jelly - 2011-05-16 14:13

    Sooooo true! Malema & Zuma thrives on the racial divide they are causing and they clearly do not understand the words "unity" and "nation building"! Lend your vote for the DA for just one term and see how those municipalities under their control functions compared to the ANC's!

      Theuns - 2011-05-16 15:18

      WHEN YOU GO TO VOTE ON WEDNESDAY 18th MAY, PLEASE TURN YOUR BALLOT PAPER OVER, AND IF IT IS NOT STAMPED, PLEASE ASK FOR ANOTHER ONE, BECAUSE WHEN THEY COUNT THE VOTES, ALL THE BALLOT PAPERS WITH NO STAMP ON THE BACK WILL BE DESTROYED. IT IS A CAMPAIGN TO GET LESS OR NO VOTES IN THE NON -ANC AREAS. THIS WAS IN THE SUNDAY TRIBUNE!!!!

      Steen - 2011-05-16 15:38

      I am waiting for the day that Zille will publicly condemn Steve Hofmeyer for his Racial Comments.

      Jawellnofine - 2011-05-16 15:38

      Remember how the old national Party pushed the "rooi gevaar" and "swart gevaar" to try and stay in power? I find it interesting to see that the ANC is pushing the "apartheid gevaar" and "wit gevaar".

      TheUgly - 2011-05-16 16:07

      Well, can't I give half my vote to the ANC. I believe this country can do with more racial division.

      OB1 - 2011-05-16 16:11

      Steve is not a politician up for election, why does she need to?

      The Observer - 2011-05-16 16:36

      steen. who opened your cage today. steve is not even a da supporter nor a political figure. steve's only medium is beeld and helen doesn't read beeld. and elaborate steve's racial comments, because he want a volkstaat for his people (not all white people want this but many do). You want whites out of sa (steen you said that yourself some weeks back) so how is steve racist for only wanting a small piece of land. he doesn't go around like your type (anc racist) calling for black to be killed, or calling for you to get the hell out. So keep on waiting (funny how you lot anc cadres still wait on the whities you hate so much).

      Raymond - 2011-05-16 20:10

      There is very little that they understand as both of them are not the brightest crayon in the box.Both Houtkop and showerhead have Township mentalities and a very low IQ.Both are professor's of nothing and think that they are very clever.They are determined to destroy this country.Laurel & Hardy were two good comedians,these two are even better.Surely,there MUST be an honest,educated,intelligent black man with integrity in this beautiful country to lead the way.

      paulf - 2011-05-17 07:33

      The ANC uses Affirmative Action (reverse racism) to maintain control of all government departments and institutions. It is a legal way to install ANC cadres in jobs that are well paid as a reward for supporting the ANC and also guaranteed future support. Although Affirmative Actions was suppose to help blacks to improve their backlog in the economy, it is in reality used to promote the ANC's power over every aspect of public life in South Africa. Whites were removed from positions in government and institutions and replaced by ANC members with no experience, qualifications or ethics. The result is massive corruption, a huge drop in government services, explosion in crime, ext. And the best of all is that the very people, the poor oppressed black masses are now even worse-off than during Apartheid. People dying a violent death has risen three fold, Crime has increased 1000%, government service has just about collapsed, government corruption steals about 10% of the tax income, our schools are rated 130 th out of 139 countries, we are slipping on every international scale related to governance. So the only way the ANC can stay in power democratically is through racism. Elections based on race politics guarantees victory.

      za101 - 2011-05-18 00:31

      gauteng please vote NO for toll roads

      Simpiwe Cele - 2011-05-18 05:11

      Using the racial divide tactic is pretty much all the ANC has to offer at this point , I mean they don't have a plan , no-one knows what they stand for , I think their election campaign was vague and really didnt say much other than to arrive in Bling cars , dance and talk religion (sic). Looking at it purely from a strategic angle they are playing the numbers game to win by what they know will garner the best result....pathetic yes and doesn't help us the people........but strategic nevertheless. Lets hope that a significant number of us do keep democracy alive and vote for an opposition party. I will be voting the DA , Viva Change.

  • Currie_Mafia - 2011-05-16 14:23

    Freedom ?!!! Who are the ANC fighting for freedom ?!!!

      Taurusaurus - 2011-05-16 14:41

      The ANC are fighting for freedom for themselves to continue their corrupt and thieving actions.

      Matt - 2011-05-16 16:03

      Freedom for ANC members to commit crime without repercussions

      Smaal - 2011-05-17 07:52

      Curry, I think you mistaken. I think you might be thinking about “free-condom”.

      paulf - 2011-05-17 08:12

      Good question, they gained Freedom in April 1994, 17 years ago and still have not gathered that. They are in Power but unfortunately can not Govern.

      Flasheart - 2011-05-17 08:54

      ANC didn't fight for freedom. They fought for power.

      Daemos1 - 2011-05-17 11:46

      I think they're fighting people who dont know how to use punctuation correctly.

  • MacDaKnife - 2011-05-16 14:23

    Some aunty, got balls. Maybe the way to go, I will change my vote from the ANC.

      HTB - 2011-05-16 14:26

      It's like she said, give them a chance, if they don't deliver simply vote for your previous party in 5 years time.

      Enuff - 2011-05-16 15:23

      Pleased to see you recognise that the ANC has given you no reason to believe that they are able (or willing) to deliver.

      Mannie777 - 2011-05-17 09:00

      Good for you buddy - this is what democracy is all about. Lets give someone else a chance.

  • alexander721 - 2011-05-16 14:26

    what the hell is the ANC doing? do they not realise what they are doing? It is obvious now that the ANC has finally realised that it cannot hide behind the wall of aparthied era excuses. they now have to play the race game to stay in power. use the majority to win based on race. I hope the country gives the DA the chance it deserves and allows it too finish what it has started.

      inyaniso@24.com - 2011-05-16 15:02

      Speak for yourself. They have a clear plan on how to increase the GDP and address the major issues that face our nation and all who live in it. The ride a fine line in short term delivery and long term strategy to achieve a 2 pronged result that allows the constituents to see improvements and continue to get the influx of foreign investment. That along with their ability to be a strong opposition that will hold the majority accountable for its irresponsible actions gives them the right to be considered and chosen!

      Skottie - 2011-05-16 16:02

      @ myancmufutur ... looks like the ANC undertands your needs ... NONE! as they deliver none, surely then you must want none ... now I understand. Can you please answer these questions to me (as I really want to know): 1) Do you realy think your anchestors are coming to haunt you if you don't vote ANC? 2) Do you really think there is no place in Heaven for you if you don't vote ANC? 3) Do you really believe that apartheid is to blame for lack of water and service delivery TODAY (after 17 years of New SA)? 4) Do you not see that the ANC elite is stealing all the tax money that is suppose to bring you a better life ???? 5) Is it ok for e.g. Malema to wear a R250,000 watch, have bodyguards, several luxury cars, several luxury houses, etc. and there are BLACK kids going to bed hungry at night!?!?!? (your tax money paid for all this!) there are many more questions but I will never keep on voting for 'leaders' that stand and do nothing when my own is dying of hunger! They are laughing at their rich parties at R100,000 a go ... easy, they feel NOTHING for you or me, just themselves!

      PB - 2011-05-16 16:41

      @MYANCMYFUTUR "They will never understand our needs not in this lifetime at least." You are correct : we will never understand, because from our viewpoint, your needs are as follows :- I WANT WHATEVER YOU HAVE I DON'T WANT TO WORK OR PAY FOR WHAT I WANT YOU WORKED FOR WHAT YOU HAVE, BUT THAT DOESN'T MAKE ANY DIFFERENCE TO ME, I WANT IT SO I WILL HAVE IT BY WHATEVER MEANS. IF YOU DON'T WANT ME TO TAKE IT, I WILL KILL YOU OR BURN OR TRASH IT. Does this sound like we have a vague idea about your needs?

      myancmyfutur - 2011-05-16 17:01

      @ Skottie, I realy dont understand what points are you trying to make, you think Malema is the ANC or we are in the ANC to kiss people's asses. The perception that black people cannot make up their own minds is undermining or perhaps racist. Apartheid is the main reason to blame for the lack of water and the fact that there was only 5% water supply in the Eastern Cape before 1994 and today the figure is over 60% and the fact that there was no electrified village in Transkei in 1994 and today over 80% have been electrified. The no delivery statement issued by the DA on behalf of the people is misleading. The DA must just be commended for a job well done in terms of PR exercise but delivery is just like any other City or even lower. I have seen delivery and if you want to see it get out of Cape Town and see other parts of RSA and ask people how have they been living before 1994 and dont be selective. TOGETHER WE CAN DO MORE!!

      shane.jacoby - 2011-05-16 17:21

      @myancmyfutur So what you saying is only black people may govern this country? This country is a black country for only black people because whites who are born here do not belong? White people do not belong in Africa and white people are criminals and should all be killed. And if white people don't give everything, they will die anyway - dubula dubula aw dubul'ibhunu!! This is what the ANC is saying. This is what they want. This is what you support. Please tell me what I did to deserve this?

      simon - 2011-05-16 22:46

      myancmyfuture For your info, there are MORE poor people and people without jobs in SA now than in 1994 ! You need to add to your slogan "TOGETHER WE CAN DO MORE -- DAMAGE !!

      p123 - 2011-05-17 08:06

      F&*K the racist, self-serving corrupt ANC! If Malema is not stopped soon, the Mugabe wannebe is going to ruin this country and ironically the poor masses (as they always do in Africa) will suffer the most. This policy of BLIND LOYALTY is very very silly indeed...

      p123 - 2011-05-17 08:08

      No Simon, it is: "Together, we can do more corruption"...

  • paulf - 2011-05-16 14:26

    If only everyone will be able to see what the ANC's actual ploy is by now, you will never know. There is a plot people, read between the lines of what is actually going on in our country.

      inyaniso@24.com - 2011-05-16 15:04

      The plot is actually a one party state which completely defeats teh ideals of democracy and allows this party to place a dictator who can hold this country to ransom in place. Have you not witnessed enough of this across Africa already???

      Mark Struwig - 2011-05-16 15:22

      @myancfutur... future is spelt with an e at the end

  • millipedia - 2011-05-16 14:27

    What most forget is that the DA is one of the only really non-racial parties. Do you not remember where the DA originated from - it was not from the NAT party but from the Progressives who were the opposition to the NATS and who fought so hard to change the apartheid government and were the voice for the voteless. Do you not remember that Progressive Party members also were assassinated because of their views of liberation policy? It must be such a slap in the face for the old members to see that what they did has not been remembered at all. My friend's father was one of the Progressives that were assassinated for his beliefs.

  • kaiersai - 2011-05-16 14:27

    The way I see it, Zille is right. The ANC over the past few months has really shown me, personally, their true colours. I've read a few comments about how the "policies" of the party are the reason to vote for them. Yet, "The scary face of the ANC" in public blatantly spreads racial hatred against a 9% minority. After 17 years of "moving forward" this is where we have ended up? The ANC STILL letting the hatred live just for the sake of them staying in power. Voting for the ANC gets you into Heaven, and Your Ancestors will not turn their backs on you. Surely you would want... BETTER from the people who are basically in control of your standard of living. It really saddens me that growing up in a country that punted the cruelty and evil of Apartheid into my education, and now I see our leaders inciting racial division. I truly have hope for this country, it is my heart. I believe the best thing for this country right now would be for a new party to come into power without DRAMA!

      RVQ - 2011-05-16 14:43

      I said this in another article, the transition from apartheid was peaceful but the transition to democracy may not be, the leaders of our wonderful country will never give up their multi-million rand homes and five car brigades very easily...

      Mike or Mpho - 2011-05-16 14:52

      Very true, and such a pity that that the ruling party decided to steer the country back to the point that it was trying to move away from

  • Black_White - 2011-05-16 14:28

    When will all the racist comments stop from all parties. We all want to live in a fair and equal South Africa but how can we when no-one is prepared to move on. The past is the past. What example are we setting for our kids who are the future leaders of this country? ANC has been caught on many occasions for misuse of South Africa's money and false promises. They should worry more about cleaning their own house. If they were reliable and honest then they wouldn’t have to fight for Cape Town. If the DA was that bad then why is Cape Town the model city? Which town centre would you rather walk through at night by yourself, Durban, Cape Town or Johannesburg. Which City centre has the highest crime rate? Which city has the poorest service delivery? Now which party runs the worst performing, worst crime ridden and dirt filled city? The ANC spends more time changing irrelevant stuff such as street names which costs the economy large sums of money then assisting the unemployed and disadvantaged. What would you rather have, a roof over your head with clean drinking water and safe sanitation or new street names? I am not voting for the DA because of colour but purely on the fact that the ANC has let its people down!

      RVQ - 2011-05-16 14:46

      "I am not voting for the DA because of colour but purely on the fact that the ANC has let its people down! " - was pro-ANC until after the second election, find myself not pro-DA but anti-ANC these days, so sad that such a great movement has been gutted by such...

      NO Name - 2011-05-16 15:55

      Dude, I think you ended a good summary wrong !!! You said "I am not voting for the DA because..." Should it not read different

      Matt - 2011-05-16 16:05

      @ no name - no, the grammar was just fine.

      Black_White - 2011-05-16 16:15

      @ No Name. No it's right the way it was said. It means I am voting for the DA but not because of colour but purely because the ANC has let its people down. @RVQ. I agree, We all had high hopes with the promise of change but as in typical ANC style promises are not kept and the only people who benefit now from them been in power is the ministers and their wifes!

  • Graham - 2011-05-16 14:30

    Racialism is all they have to offer! what else have they to offer their voting fodder? without the threat of "return to apartheid" if the DA wins their puppets may think for themselves and realise they are living in squalor while fatcats live it up.A few Chinese-made caps and shirts and offer of a free feed should do it for them, and next they will do the same while their ancestors look on!

  • coolwaynie - 2011-05-16 14:31

    Zille is completely correct. The last few weeks have seen the stooges of the ANC making childish and unintelligent comments about white people. They have truly outdone themselves in racially polarising the nation for good.

      Derek - 2011-05-16 15:24

      So true. The DA have fought a positive campaign based on service delivery issues and their vision of a better, working Sa for all (yes even the anc guys sprouting racism) The anc campaign has been negative, racist, insults galore and heaven help you if you are white irrepective of your background. Vote for a truly multi-racial, hard working, patriotic party for a better futre. Go DA!!!!

  • Craig44 - 2011-05-16 14:31

    @ Maki & chang.... When cANCer has stripped the land bare and you and your families are starving and fighting over food, then you will see what any individual with common sense currently sees. Are you such a rabid pack of cANCer fanatics that you cannot bear just to listen to anothers point of view?? You both are as pathetic as Suicide bombers, ready to take everyone down with you. Sad little Fools... Sad!

  • Vrijheid - 2011-05-16 14:32

    There will come a day, thus in the very near future, where people will be very hungry. I too will be hungry, but I will not share, cause I know, you put this regime in power, you kept this regime in power. Now deal with those hungry pains.

      The All Seeing Eye - 2011-05-16 15:23

      Both of you shut the hell up. I coming for both of you with my Pepper spray.

  • Stylin - 2011-05-16 14:33

    Helen you're non-the-better. transforming some area's but further segregating the poor in CT.

      Andre - 2011-05-16 14:39

      @Stylin. You guys carry on about the same old story all the time. Can you show me where the ANC has done any better. Remembering that they were in power in CT before the DA. What did they do in all those years they were in power here. Why should it be up to the DA now to perform where the ANC never did before when they were in power here.

      Andre - 2011-05-16 14:51

      @Maki. I see you say nothing about the service delivery protests all over the country where the ANC is in power. So I see the same is happening where the ANC is in power. So it's not a unique DA thing I see.

      echo - 2011-05-16 14:51

      The only thing you "Stylin" is "Stupidity"!

      Taurusaurus - 2011-05-16 14:53

      @Stylin: you obviously don't live in Cape Town, otherwise you wouldn't be making those comments. How does a political party segregate individuals based on their WEALTH???? Think for a bit before you make stupid comments; you've already made one. Learn from your mistakes. ;) The DA has paved the road in Cape Town for generations to come - so much has been done, and so much more is now possible, and plenty more can NOW be done, all thanks to the DA and the valiant efforts of Helen Zille. Viva DA!!

      Felix - 2011-05-16 14:54

      Pay tax = get service.

      echo - 2011-05-16 14:59

      And Mr. Maki (SP Ref), what do you do for the poor in the townships? by the sounds of your name, you enjoy sitting at the Waterfront in a sushi bar, maybe even eat it off your ANC cronies prossies.

      greentomato - 2011-05-16 15:02

      If the ANC did not force the DA to build a bloody big white elephant in green point maybe they could have built a few hundred thousand house's for the poor. But the ANC can't line their pockets as well building houses mate.

      greentomato - 2011-05-16 15:08

      The poor, the poor. What about the good, hard working folks who get up every morning, sit in traffic, work all day, pay taxes and see very little return? I suppose they should feel guilty for the government not fulfilling it's mandate. What effort do the poor make? They sit and wait for hand outs, and as long as the ANC is in charge they will string them along with promises of riches, because they are too lazy to get of their collective behinds and do something for themselves. I am sick and tired of hearing this bollocks.

      Enuff - 2011-05-16 15:17

      @ Maki - it the rates and taxes paid by the home owners of Camps Bay and Sea Point that pays for the palm trees. What do you think the rates and taxes paid by the Gugs home owners pays for?

      Enuff - 2011-05-16 15:17

      @Stylin - please don't tell me we're back to bicycle lanes again (yawn).

      googoodude - 2011-05-16 15:19

      Imagine waiting your whole life for apartheid to be over and then 14 years down the line you still crapping in a bucket! Don't point fingers when 4 fingers are point back! I see more poor people in ANC led areas that still don't have running water and more ANC leaders that steal money from them to house their luxury living!

      Thad - 2011-05-16 15:49

      @Andre, I have to disagree with you. Just because the ANC did not deliver much in Cape Town does not mean that the DA dont have to either. They should, its their job, they have been elected to do so. Otherwise what is the point of voting for them Having said that I think the DA has done much more for ALL Capetonians than the ANC has ever done. @Maki, Your attitude(like Malema's) is the cancer that is killing this country. You spread lies and deceit wherever you go. Where exactly do you get these "facts" you are posting? The DA does nothing in gugulethu? Blatant lies!

      African'shtr - 2011-05-16 16:07

      jessydinks - Jessydicks you are my back, who said cape is for certain individuals, please don't say (KA*2) (squared)

      Snoopy88 - 2011-05-17 11:29

      @ stylin.. I think you say that because that is what you want to believe is happening in Cape Town. Come speak to the people in Delft, the people in Dunoon who sent 7 ANC rally buses away empty.. They have actually seen what a democratic party can do in their own neighbourhoods. Zille brought stormwater drains and street lighting.

      MoAfrika - 2011-05-17 14:23

      Styling you are quite right

  • Cire - 2011-05-16 14:35

    Zille is absolutely correct. The ANC's election campaign is pure racism - black people must vote for the ANC. Or else! The DA, on the other hand, is campaigning on the issues. In fact, that explains why the ANC is focussed on race - if they campaigned on the issues, they would be faced with the fact that they have screwed up everything they have touched - from education, to security to health.

      Taurusaurus - 2011-05-16 14:50

      100% agreed. Every time they make racist comments, so little gets said about it. Then when they accuse someone else of being racist, everyone makes a fuss about it - even when its not true! The ANC are cowards and liars, who try to steal support from South Africans by playing on pity and sympathy, pretending to be morally injured, when not a racist word has been spoken against them by the DA. The ANC are finished! Viva DA!! Viva Zille!! Viva South Africa!!

  • Nicholas - 2011-05-16 14:37

    if you failed once, you must learn from your failure, and fail again, then you must try another way; ANC had failed in 1994 onward, so, it's time to try something else

      Enuff - 2011-05-16 15:11

      Yup, there's a very apt saying - "Fool me once, shame on you! Fool me twice, shame on me!"

      INFINIT - 2011-05-16 16:04

      SLIMA NDINI.I DONO IF WE ARE READING THE SAME COMMENTS HERE BUT I'M AMAZED. BUTT KISSER YOU ARE! THESE RACIST COWS HAVE INSULTED US WITH EVERY WORD IMAGINABLE AND YOU STILL THINK THE SO CALLED DEMOCRACY AND UNITY IS OUT THERE. ANY PERSON WHO INSULTS MY CULTURE IS NO FRIEND OF MINE. ACCORDING TO THE COMMENTS HERE A BLACK PERSON HAS A LOW,HAS A BARBARIC BELIEF SYSTEM,A SAVAGE AND THE LIST GOES ON.YOU NEED FIND YOURSELF BEFORE IT'S TOO LATE

      Uthando - 2011-05-16 16:45

      Good point Nicholas. @ INFINIT Ntanga, what's with the anger & aggression? Cant blame you though, you've been basking your poor soul in the company of Zuma & Malema. Birds of the feather, flock together. Get help, now!

      alistair - 2011-05-26 14:48

      Maybe you should look up the origin of the swastika,yet another symbol stolen from non white people. You know that the cowards who wore it during world war 2 all betrayed their master Hitler at the end - typical !!!

  • colin langley - 2011-05-16 14:39

    Ooooh...the ANC sycophants are out in force...me thinks the LootAllMe house and a web centre set up so you idiots can post messages all day on news 24...the ANC has failed you...and they will naai you again....good luck you dumb retards...

      INFINIT - 2011-05-16 16:05

      I'M ASSUMING "DUMB RETARDS" IS ANOTHER WORD FOR BLACK PEOPLE....INTERESTING

      Snoopy88 - 2011-05-17 11:14

      @Infinit - please don't paint us all with the same brush. Why are you letting stupid comments by a few fools influence your judgement of everyone? That kind of generalising is the reason why we have such problems. Rise above it.. PS typing in all caps is considered shouting.

      theboss - 2011-05-17 14:13

      Infinit. No it is everyone voting for the anc... whites inlcluded!!! Shame...

      Ching Ching - 2011-05-17 14:24

      INFINIT - no, your assumption is wrong, dumd retards are the people voting for the ANC...

  • FerretGee - 2011-05-16 14:39

    Julius Malema called ALL whites "criminals" so I pose the question, if ALL whites are criminals, then those whites who are members and officials in then ANC must be criminals too and if that is the case, is the ANC then not justifying the election of criminals within its ranks and hence proving the fact that the ANC is a criminal organisation!

  • Way-eye-i - 2011-05-16 14:41

    see few things are som wrong... to b ab,le to vote means you are old enaf nd know whats good for you.. as for the word "BLACK VOTERS" ..cut ot out.. we know what what we want and we will let everyone know that by our VOTES

      greentomato - 2011-05-16 14:57

      Clear as mud!

      Enuff - 2011-05-16 15:14

      Your ANC education hard at work there I see.

      2centsworth - 2011-05-16 16:06

      Try typing in english, not all of us can read mandarin...

  • Francoise - 2011-05-16 14:43

    I agree with the Madam ! We are not voting according to race we are voting for better run municipalities and infrastructure. We are voting for better run services and overall management of public funds. We are voting to erradicate poor service delivery and we are voting to decrease the ability of corrupt officials to steal from every citizen in this country. This election should be about your immediate area's and the issues you are facing as a citizen not the colour of your skin. I am not saying you should vote for the DA?, I am saying you should vote with your head not your heart, the time for change is long over due and to be honest what has significantly changed in this country in the last 17 years of democracy? Wake up and smell the coffee, read a newspaper watch the news and listen to the radio!!! Stop accepting mediacrity, try something new ??

  • Jason - 2011-05-16 14:45

    My view is that the Western Cape is so well run because it is so closely contested. The DA can't mess around they lose a few % to the ANC and its gone. That is how it should be but unfortunately its the only province that is so closely contested and hence the results...

  • Mentality - 2011-05-16 14:46

    I may be really stupid, but exactly when had the Chinese people been part of the 'struggle'? I may have missed that history lesson. And if it's because they gave refuge to 'Comrades', does that mean Cubans are also part of BEE then?

  • o Great one - 2011-05-16 14:46

    Yip This is so true all they can use for a campaign is something that happened 18 years a go. Because they can not focus on now for the have become the oppressors and not just for the whites but for all South Africans with their empty promises, corruption and lies.

  • psydomx - 2011-05-16 14:48

    DEMOCRACY - FOR THE PEOPLE BY THE PEOPLE ANC - FOR THEMSELVES BUY THE PEOPLE CHICKEN AND T-SHIRT TRAITORS

  • ShakaN - 2011-05-16 14:49

    I am a black South African, and I am waiting to see if Zuma will ever give up his posistion as president, and if he does and Malema replaces him I may have to leave SA for a second time because the ANC that I voted for is NOT the ANC that SA has got. Shame on you ANC.

      CraigAC@24.com - 2011-05-16 15:03

      I agree with you on that - TRUE

      KBHS - 2011-05-16 15:35

      Dear ShakaN - you are 100% correct in what you are saying. There was a time when the ANC made all the right noises, to the point that I believed it was the way to go - in fact the only way to go. Not that I ever voted ANC, but the party very nearly had my vote, it was that close. Yet now, after all these years, the ANC has, more than anything else, managed to disappoint. They had repeatedly been given a huge vote of confidence, and that confidence has been betrayed. So now I vote DA. Oh yes, I am white, but that is ultimately irrelevant. Mainly, I am South African, and it pains me to see how badly things have gone wrong.

      INFINIT - 2011-05-16 16:10

      UNAMANGA WENA..LOL

  • JR - 2011-05-16 14:52

    The future of the ANC depends on the fact that they MUST make sure that their people believe that there is still racism ext. As soon as it is believed that racism is part of history THEN they the ANC would have no use!

      INFINIT - 2011-05-16 16:14

      YES JR RACISM IS ALIVE AND WELL.I WAS LUCKY ENOUGH TO GROW UP WITH WHITE'S SO HELL YEAH,AINT NON OF UR'LL GONNA TELL ME IT AINT HERE.

      Uthando - 2011-05-16 16:49

      Racism is alive & well to those who allow it to stay alive & exist in their hearts. Problem is, it destroys lives & a country. Everyone knows that by now for sure.

      Taurusaurus - 2011-05-16 16:57

      @infinit: I grew up with whites, blacks, coloreds, asians, and hispanics throughout my life, in many key areas of development and social interaction. The only reason racism is "alive and well" is because South Africans of any ethnicity try to find a reason, an excuse, to justify and explain their racism. As soon as anyone tries to give a "REASON" for racism, it becomes harder to eradicate, because foolish pride will keep people from admitting that they are at fault. Racism is hate. Hate will devastate. Choose to create - Peace, Tolerance, Understanding. "Change: It Begins With You." :)

      Krolie - 2011-05-16 18:21

      @INFINIT If you have been brought up by whites, isn't it perhaps the fact that they were teaching you right from wrong that has made you baulk? Afterall, the ANC promotes what is wrong to be "right"! Rather sit down, think back, and take in the lessons taught when young. It could stand you in good stead and make you grow as a person.

      TheSteve - 2011-05-17 10:25

      Dear Infinit, You are right, Racism is alive and well, the problem is the ANC is keeping it alive, the DA wants to remove Racism, while lifting up the poor, but improving Service delivery, Creating Jobs, thus creating a win/win situation. I live in Gauteng, with dustbins overflowing, I went to Cape town recently, Clean streets, dustbins emptied, I went in all areas, people are positive, so who changed the Western Cape, The ANC, NO!!!, the DA and partners, YES !!!, so who will I vote for, well the answer is who can deliver on promises. The ANC has not done this for the last 17 Years, the DA has for the last 5 years in WC. Logical enough for you. I want a country where Black, Whith and all South Africans can live in peace. I been a Soldier, done it got the Tee Shirt, no fun, Now as a committed Christian, I need to see poor, rich, midle class and all South Africans benifit, not only the connected. My son, your son, need to join hands and build, not destroy.

      Snoopy88 - 2011-05-17 11:24

      Wow Krolie, aren't you just sooo smug and arrogant? Is there ANY race group or religion that can teach us about right and wrong? Your belief that you are superior because of your skin colour is quite pathetic and will do you about as much good in life as running around with a white sheet over your head and burning crosses would... Keep quiet please because you are making the rest of us look bad!

  • greentomato - 2011-05-16 14:54

    So JZ is admitting that since 1994 the ANC has done bugger all to change the status quo, it is still apartheid;s fault and not bad management. The fact that the people running these so called under developed municipalities are cadre deployments and haven't got a clue has nothing to do with it. The DA is going to kick them out and run things properly. My ancestors told me so!

      Paco7 - 2011-05-17 11:09

      at least now people of colour can trade freely,buy houses wherever they want to and go to public places using the same entrance as everyone else thanks to the ANC so if u think that tiny white party is going to throw out the ruling ANC dream on "vrot tomato"

  • Maki - 2011-05-16 14:56

    This site has shredded just about every pro ANC comment. The media is in desperate need of transformation.They are pushing the DA agenda to far.

      REVO - 2011-05-16 15:00

      Maki...go and invent something...untill then you make no sense!!

      Spinnie - 2011-05-16 15:16

      No one really cares who and what party runs this country. The problem is the manner on how it's run by our current government. You a news reader on this site... correct? Do you support some of these politicians you read about stealing the money from the tax payer enriching themselves and don’t really give a damn about other people. I can give you a few examples but you can just pick up any newspaper for that kind of news. If the top brass in the ANC who so call care about the people we will see less corruption and get people in who can do the job. We read about golden hand sakes and in the future the same criminal pop up in a top position. If you support those kind of actions you need to go and have a good look at yourself because I bet you enjoy you higher electricity prices because of incompetence. Nobody is perfect but you can’t deny it is starting to get out of hand.

      JustinD - 2011-05-16 15:19

      No they are not you blind fool, there just arent too many pro ANC messages or anything else left. The ANC have out-stolen just about as much as the masses are prepared to accept. It's just you and that other racist Kolobe left standing.

      Taurusaurus - 2011-05-16 15:24

      @Maki: Contrary to your baseless gibberish, "this site" has "shredded" just about every UNACCEPTABLE comment, made under the guise of politics. Racism is inexcusable. Racism is a violation of the News24 / Media24 ToS. Racism will be removed by News24 editors. Grow up and realize that your twisted, racist, politically incorrect ANC agenda is a crumpled up piece of newspaper, better suited at the bottom of a hamster cage to catch the excrement from household pets!

      Tiago - 2011-05-16 15:25

      MAKI!!!! that is hilarious !!! you really are uneducated ....i have a big question for you with this stupid comment ...In what country that isnt offcourse lead by a dictator does the national broadcasting authority transmit A political parties Rally LIVE!!!!!! where ?thats right no other country does that yet you complain about south africas media ...grow up !! that cute little rally of the ANC's must have cost them millions of tax payers money ,they had to pay for rental of the stadium and stage etc !! so grow up and get your facts straight

      Steen - 2011-05-16 15:42

      @REVO have you ever invented something?

      Sho Fukamachi - 2011-05-16 15:45

      @Maki, this site has an obligation to remove any racist and abusive comments that are made on here. Considering that's all you ANC clowns know, don't be surprised that it is being removed.

      Thad - 2011-05-16 15:52

      Then why is "the media" Broadcasting a 2 hour ANC rally, but not ALL politacal parties'?

      OuWitBooi - 2011-05-16 15:54

      @Maki, its actually simple. Forget all the arguments here. Just look at the ANC government's analysis of which are the best run municipalities. This proves that wherever the DA is running the show things are working better than anywhere run by the ANC. These are government statistics. Not DA propaganda. Case closed. Now you can vote DA with a clear conscience. Remember to where a blue shirt on Wednesday.

      7thFloor - 2011-05-16 16:03

      Probably because you and a few other chip-on-my-shoulder commentors never have anything constructive to say. Either you do it to get people rowled up or you are racist. Your comments are fact'less and close minded.

      2centsworth - 2011-05-16 16:10

      Why dont you try and close twitter while you at it...lmao!!!

      Enuff - 2011-05-16 16:10

      @Maki - I read follow these forums specifically in search of the reason and rationale behind anyone supporting the ANC in 2011. Sadly, I have never, not even once gained anything other than "We support the ANC because they freed us from apartheid" as a slightly understandable reason. Supporters of all other parties (whether those supporters be black, white, coloured, or indian) at least sometimes talk about the issues. Yes, at times comments of non-ANC supporters are insulting and baseless. But it seems that comments from ANC supporters are insulting and baseless all of the time. As the election is approaching at a rate of knots, perhaps you have can help me understand (by stating facts without being insulting or derogatory) why do you support the ANC?

      DeonL - 2011-05-16 16:31

      Maybe the media is seeing through the ANC.

      Lashking Zn - 2011-05-17 12:41

      maki, you are a lost,blind lamb, go back to your herd and stay there.

      maseratifitt - 2011-05-17 14:48

      Maki : Please tell us why anyone should vote for Arrogance, Nepotism and Corruption. The floor is yours.

  • Moipone Bokaba - 2011-05-16 15:00

    Afternoon everyone & hope that you had a fantastic weekend despite the fanfare at the stadium & the dancing president...& on second thoughts maybe he should keep on dancing cos he seems to have the courage of being an unaccountable laughing stock.His speech was bland,to me at least,it said nothing.The famous race card was again drawn much to my chagrin & annoyance & the crowd went balistic,so much for the divide & rule.I poignantly watched as telecasted & all i could feel was the hate,the division that was spewed for all to see & celebrate & i prayed for a day when sanity would prevail,where I could see my brother without colour,where one could fall inlove notwithstanding the colour or be equal because of our love for our country,acumen, skills, academics.We surely are fallible & mortal & someday in our grey years we will look back nonchalantly & ask " what did we do wrong,why did i not act when action beckoned" & this will be said while languishing in a stupor of old age looking at your kids who will be suffering the consequences of our actions or their lack thereoff.I implore you, go and vote,for a better society,for the future of our kids but mostly for society that will hasten to instil respect,fear of God & the love for all human kind.I will vote for change that i can believe in & i will not do it becuase of any sentiments that i harbour,but i will do it because it is the right thing to do,to make this a better country for my children. Enough is enough,no more...HUMANITY

      NewRadical - 2011-05-16 15:08

      @Moipone: I respect your reasoning, you speak with love. @Maki: I disrespect your reasoning, you speak with hatred.

      JustinD - 2011-05-16 15:21

      I hear you Moipone, that will indeed be a great day.

      inyaniso@24.com - 2011-05-16 15:21

      Yes. Well done! It is refreshing to see more people understand the new cause that has become the pillar of our country's fresh struggle. Why is there a need for any form of racial tones? I believe in the vision of a South Africa for all who are in it. Each person here has a role to play in lifting our country up and taking it to the greatness it can achieve. Without unity in our nation this will never happen and we can divide the fruits of the land many times over and still have the same amount of people sitting in the same poverty. How can this be considered an improvement? That is not moving our nation forward. The time for change is NOW!

      Urban_Frog - 2011-05-16 15:25

      Thank you Moipone!

      myancmyfutur - 2011-05-16 15:25

      @Moipone, you will only see that you're not free when you become a victim of racism by the DA supporters in Cape Town or like the farmworkers throughout the country. You never cared to listern to the speech the DA has already polluted your mind. We will not apologise to Zille or any white person for that matter a racist is a racist!!!

      Taurusaurus - 2011-05-16 15:26

      @Maki: get lost, twit. Helen Zilla / The DA don't need to pay anyone anything to say good things about them, unlike the ANC, who threatens, bribes, and makes empty promises for a handful of idiots like you to say positive things about them (the ANC). The DA's service delivery record is there. Their actions are transparent and visible to all. They are responsible, accountable, and perfect for ruling South Africa! VIVA DA!! VIVA ZILLE!! VIVA SOUTH AFRICA!!

      allie - 2011-05-16 15:27

      Maki kaki,hatred has fuc-ed your brain so much that you can`t think like Bokaba.one can see,the man has intellect.

      Derek - 2011-05-16 15:32

      Give that man a Bells! Moipone you truly are a noble South African and if you enter politics I will vote for you!

      piet.strydom - 2011-05-16 16:03

      @Moipone, I hope that you are represaentative of the black majority. @Maki, Did you go to school? If not why not? As a "privileged" white South African, I didn't have money to go to university. Did I toi-toi and boicot because of that? No, I found myself a day job, and studied at night. Was it easy? No. Did the state help me? No. Did I get a grant? No. Did I learn to work for what I want? Yes. Am I self-sufficient now? Yes.

      Pharo - 2011-05-16 16:07

      @Maki This lady did not say that she is voting for the DA you jerk! She is just looking for a DECENT government! That's called democracy. But as an ANC lackey, you would not understand the concept. Hum.

      Educated - 2011-05-16 16:31

      Well said Moipone Bokaba. I really hope my daughter gets to grow up in a unified society instead of the violent one that's being promoted by the anc at the moment. Reason and common sense must prevail at the end of the day.

      Haydn - 2011-05-16 16:31

      Well said!!

      Uthando - 2011-05-16 16:57

      @ INFINIT You are SO disrespectful! Either Zuma adopted you from your parents or like Malema, they (your parents) didn't teach you moral values. Nx!

      Enough! - 2011-05-16 17:01

      I feel the same! Life in Cape Town and have seen change! My heart go out to the poor but Zille have been trying! She no super women! I sometimes want to get angry and want to hate but then I'm reminded by what the Bible says! " blessed are the peace makers, for THEY will inheret thee earth! Malema take note!!!!! What happened about Mandelas dream???? Today the ANC not the ANC of yesterday! DA all the way this year like never before!

      maseratifitt - 2011-05-16 19:30

      Bless you.

      Andries - 2011-05-17 07:58

      You spoke the mind of many a South African Mrs Bokaba. Well said.

      TheSteve - 2011-05-17 10:30

      Dear Moipone, Thanks we really needed this, our prays are also for country that is for all South Africans, lets rember the past, only because of the lessions needed. Lets join Hands and see each as South Africans.

      Snoopy88 - 2011-05-17 11:47

      Moipone Bokaba for President. About time we got a woman in the top job! I think we all struggle with hatred and distrust in our hearts. I would be lying if I didn't at times resort to silly racist stereotypes. Its a fight every day to be the person I want to be, to show my children how to live right and treat all people with respect. But as mothers we have no choice but to think for our children and their wellbeing and world where hatred and divisions is allowed to flourish is not what I want for them. Love is the only thing worth fighting for. I don't necessarily believe the DA has all the answers. But I do believe they are trying harder right now to deliver on their promises because they need to in order to survive. perhaps when the support is more equal we will see everyone bringing their A game? ANC supporters you need to realise that a healthy opposition is the best thing for the ANC - it makes them pull their socks up! Have a great day tomorrow everyone!

      Realist - 2011-05-17 17:40

      I RESPECT YOU FOR YOUR RATIONALE AND THOUGHT! A voice of reason to sober us all when we do and say things that are hateful and hurtful to each other.

      Bewildered - 2011-05-17 23:18

      ^^^ Stands and applauds loudly. Very well said Moipone, I salute you.

  • myancmyfutur - 2011-05-16 15:01

    White people say BEE must stop, there is no racism in South Africa,ANC is not delivering stop this denial. When ANC does a PR exercise on the Municipality's daily duties they are accused of running a media propaganda campaign. I just wish any racist can go to any other Municipality in the Country run by the ANC and look at their budgets in the past 3years and check the value for money on the services rendered without using DA surveys and stats.

      Smaal - 2011-05-16 15:09

      I work within those structures and I can tell you, if you know and see what’s really going on, you’ll want to slit your wrists. These guys can manage toilet paper but give half a chance they will steal the truck and the toilet paper. I always laugh at people who say that blacks are dumb. Believe me, they are not.

      Felix - 2011-05-16 15:13

      come again?

      inyaniso@24.com - 2011-05-16 15:23

      Only Cape Town has received a complete audit report. No otehr municipality has an unqualified and independant report. Bring us one and we can see what numbers you speak of....

      Taurusaurus - 2011-05-16 15:29

      Why without using DA surveys and stats? The DA have an EXCEPTIONAL track record. The ANC have a DISGUSTING track record. Why wouldn't you compare their budgets? Its a crystal clear indication that THE ANC FAILED !!! Viva DA!! Viva Honesty!! Viva Integrity!! Viva Morals!! VIVA HELEN ZILLE!!!!

      danieln - 2011-05-16 15:33

      I thought the Government already did that, but then the actual report was too true. I guess that must have been a white, racist conspiracy as well ... Then again, even your dear leader Zuma admits that service delivery has been poor and has promised to fix things if the ANC is elected again ... So pretty please explain to me where the ANC is running local municipalities well?

      BLACKFRUIT - 2011-05-16 15:58

      Next thing they'll be taking away financial aids like NSFAS that are aiding poor black people to get a tertiary education because their forefathers left them loot of inheritance. This is not about service delivery. Just read all these white people's comments. They are so bitter.

      Thad - 2011-05-16 16:04

      I have seen firsthand what an ANC-run municipality is "capable" of. Go to Philipstown or Petrusville in the Northern Cape. Corrupt municipal managers and tenderpreneurs has left the minicipality bankrupt. Now the community sometimes go without drinking water, the sewerage works DOESNT work, and half finished projects lie abandoned. But I guess you see that as great service delivery.....

      Cire - 2011-05-16 16:06

      Well said Moipone

      DeonL - 2011-05-16 16:34

      I agree that ANC is delivering, but only to enrich themselves, not much else.

      Enough! - 2011-05-16 17:10

      Blackfruit! No not all whites are bitter! They are just as fed-up with the ANC as you are they just don't strike and take it to the streets like we are seeing happening like never before and will see soon! The ANC has failed us all, black and white!

      Boerseun - 2011-05-16 17:19

      Well, you asked for it, so here is a nice one just for you: The report on the finances of Ngwathe local municipality - which includes the towns Parys, Heilbron, Vredefort, Koppies and Edenville and is part of the Free State's Fezile Dabi district municipality - was presented at a closed council meeting two months ago. Members of the Ngwathe ratepayers' association have stopped paying rates to the municipality in protest at its mismanagement. PAC Free State provincial secretary, Papi Mafubedu, is in possession of a dossier detailing allegations of mismanagement by the municipality. He said: "In Abazimeli informal settlement in Ngwathe, there is no water, no toilets, no streets, no electricity, nothing. When there is a funeral there, it is very painful to watch. The hearse has to park far away from the body." An invoice shows that municipal bosses spent R180000 on 200 A5 diaries for top managers at a cost of nearly R1000 each. The report, tabled at the council meeting in February, stated that the AG could not verify if assets worth R500-million really existed, because the municipality had no proper asset register. The AG could not find any supporting documentation for car allowances of R4.4-million and R2.9-million of "other allowances" given to staff. Another R7.5-million of capital expenditure "was not recorded in the accounting records of the municipality". The AG said it could not be determined if the municipality had indeed paid R14-million in subsidies to the indigent. In the previous year, the municipality had overcharged to the tune of R2.3-million for water and electricity. "Management could not provide sufficient appropriate audit evidence that these misstatements had been . and resolved," the AG wrote. About R85-million was spent on staff, but the AG could not confirm that this amount was accurate. The municipality said it had underspent its budget for providing services by R3.9-million, but the AG said he could not confirm whether this was the actual amount. That the municipality faces lawsuits of over R31-million had not been factored into its financial statements. The AG could not find enough evidence that R8.2-million of VAT reimbursements to the municipality from the SA Revenue Service had been properly recorded by the municipality. The municipality tried to claim a further R2.2-million of VAT from SARS. The Revenue Service did not allow this but the municipality never adjusted its books to reflect this. Municipal bosses said R353-million of revenue had been generated but the AG could also not find evidence to support R167-million of this amount. Seven months ago, a 2009 National Intelligence Agency investigation of petrol-card fraud in Ngwathe municipality found that most of the municipality's cars were not running, but were being "filled", every 15km, at a cost of up to R28000 a month. Municipal manager Norman Selai has not responded to questions sent to his office two weeks ago. He promised to do so on several occasions.

      Richard - 2011-05-17 08:06

      Shows how much you know. It's not DA stats, it's the Auditor General.

      Gundaan - 2011-05-18 00:32

      @ myancmyfutur ..indeed like the Johannesburg Fire Chief & all her freebees overseas for her & her cronies ...ANC cadres ..bloody disgusting ...have you people no shame ....

  • willieman - 2011-05-16 15:05

    ANC are just bankrupt they brought nothing on this election but racial card.Who ever coached them he simply misled them.The racial card is boring is not stimulating rational and logical debate.RACIAL CARD CRAP FROM ANC,PULL THE OTHER ONE.

      Taurusaurus - 2011-05-16 15:31

      The ANC leaders of today are useless. They did not follow in Nelson Mandela's footsteps. Jacob Zuma is a buffoon. Julius Malema is an imbecile. The two of them are hateful, selfish racists. THE ANC HAVE LOST! Viva DA!! Viva Honesty!! Viva Integrity!! Viva Morals!! VIVA HELEN ZILLE!!!!

  • Mad man - 2011-05-16 15:06

    It seems that this little girl thinks that black people are her stepping-stone to political success. Can any one out there tell this girl to stop mentioning Mr Mandela` name whereever she goes. Why don`t you mention the racist ancestor PW Botha and that animal called H Verwoerd.

      Andy - 2011-05-16 15:31

      She can mention who ever she wants, Mandela doesn't belong to the ANC! He's a true visionary and a champion of the ALL people!

      Taurusaurus - 2011-05-16 15:34

      @Mad_Man: it seems this little News24 user thinks that ignorance is his excuse to make retarded comments without doing any further reading, or self-education. Your baseless comments regarding PW Botha and Hendrick Verwoerd only echo the emptiness of your head. How did you ever come about to writing such garbage??? In fact, I don't even want to know - stupidity might be contagious!!!!

      DRYGOII - 2011-05-16 15:35

      May be because she doesn't support Botha and Verwoerd? Simple?A? I think white people invested a lot in creation of rainbow nation-outcome is around/

      OuWitBooi - 2011-05-16 15:59

      How did you choose your name here? Probably the only honest thing about you.

      Cire - 2011-05-16 16:08

      Zille never supported Botha or Verwoerd. The DA does not intend to reintroduce apartheid. Stop spewing out mindless racist rubbish - you sound just like Botha and Verwoerd! And like Malema!

      Pharo - 2011-05-16 16:12

      Who are you calling a little girl, you little boy? We leave it to you to mention the racist ancestors, bcos that's as far as your "little" brain can function.

      Matt - 2011-05-16 16:12

      PW Botha and HF Verwoerd were NP - Zille is DA = former PP. (facepalm)

      Enuff - 2011-05-16 16:17

      "This little girl" Wow! Are you incapable of expressing your views and opinions without being rude and insulting?

      Rev. H-Cubed - 2011-05-16 19:02

      That "little girl" is a struggle hero, who now has to endure insults from the very people for whom she fought. This is what angers me most. That so many of us stood up against apartheid, and eventually defeated it, only to now be treated as "the enemy". The current behaviour of the ANC as an organisation is the single reason the struggle is not over yet. Until ALL injustice is eradicated, the struggle continues, and the ANC visits the injustice of corrupt and incompetent governance on us all, daily.

      Snoopy88 - 2011-05-17 11:55

      ha ha someone is feeling very threatened! erm... Zille has better struggle credentials than most of parliament. And last time I checked she wasn't related to either PW or Verwoerd. So stop embarrrasing YOUR ancestors.

      mabebeza - 2011-06-17 14:23

      That cocroach needs a good spray of Doom...kwa kwa kwa

  • Ne0.SA - 2011-05-16 15:06

    I do not support the ANC as I tend to agree that they are using the past to srengthen the racial divide. However I am disgusted and appauled at some of the racist comments flying around from some of you guys!!! WTF!!! Stop being the problem and truely be part of the solution. Forget colour forget race and focus on being the change you want to see.

      Taurusaurus - 2011-05-16 15:36

      Agreed; racism is what the ANC want to proliferate. Why allow them to break us, as South Africans, down further than they already have? Stand strong against the corruption, thievery, hate and misery of the ANC!! Don't vote ANC!! Choose true DEMOCRACY!! :)

  • Clinton - 2011-05-16 15:07

    I read recently that the ANC is going back on its reverse cadre deployment and Zuma called for further debates. The ANC has become a shadow of the great party it once was. Infested with a virus called greed and sucking government coffers dry for the benifit of a few select political connected and their partners in crime ministers. The ANC want to devide all SA Citizens because if this happens it means the are always assured of the "blind but loyal vote". As a child I heard frases like "DIE SWART GEVAAR" and the context it has been used was also made to devide apartheid SA into further racial lines. It started back then and the then government propaganda machine was highly effective in installing fear among white people towards "Die Swart Gevaar". What freightens me is it seems Zuma and his little puppet Malema is NOW doing the exact same thing. Its called "Devide and conquer" people and has been used since the dawn of time, but to devide SA amongst racial lines goes against everything great stalwards like Thambo, Mandela and Biko stood for. It is driven by a desire for power and money and consist purely out of greed. And just like the then old apartheid regime it is bound to fail to suceed in the long run. People are'nt stupid. Especially South Africans. Fighting for freedom and then constantly being asked to vote for a party who encourages corruption and nepotism is bound to come back and haunt the ANC one day. ANC needs to be cleansed from these parisites of greed.

      Taurusaurus - 2011-05-16 15:38

      At this stage, the venomous corruption and greed has become so entrenched, so integrated into the ANC, that they can no longer cleanse themselves, and will only fester if allowed to remain in any form of control. South Africa must be cleansed of the ANC's greed, corruption, thievery, hatred, and failures!! South Africa must be free of the ANC!! Vote for Honesty, Integrity, Reliability, Civility, and DEMOCRACY!!

  • vusi22 - 2011-05-16 15:10

    This is cheap politics on the side of DA. ANC is the only multi racial party in SA.DA is smelling defeat. The writting is on the wall

      Alpha - 2011-05-16 15:38

      Dream on ;-)

      Cire - 2011-05-16 16:04

      So how exactly is the ANC a multi-racial party? Unless you mean multi racial in the same way as Biko = multi racism is just racialism multiplied. He argued that we need a non racial SA. Quite right too!

      Matt - 2011-05-16 16:13

      Did I just read that correctly?

      Rev. H-Cubed - 2011-05-16 19:07

      Far rather "cheap politics" than the extremely expensive politics of the ANC. Corruption has STOLEN R3000 from every man woman and child in South Africa. Vusi, you may not think that is a problem, but many of us think it is a massive problem

      Snoopy88 - 2011-05-17 11:59

      Vusi, I don't think its cheap politics? Did she play the race card? Did she call them racist names (madam) and criticise their dancing? did she lie about anything that they said? They did say those things didn't they? As long as the DA keeps getting more support with every election they are winning... Even if the ANC still wins in every municipality. If there is a 5% increase in DA support that means 5% less for the ANC.. and that is DEFEAT creeping up on you.

  • SoccerRugFan - 2011-05-16 15:11

    I can't believe the comments I am hearing on both sides of the political spectrum. For God's sake, we are 17 years into democracy. It is time to grow up. We need a government that has everyone's interests as heart, honestly & sincerely, not along any racial divides. I hear only one party that is trying to do that, and that is the DA. The ANC keeps harping on apartheid ... can't we let that go and move forward into the sunshine together?! The ANC has had 17 years to prove themselves to us. If they had done a better job, I would have voted for them. Really. But the facts are clear - they haven't. Crime. Corruption. Tenderpreneurs. Cronyism. Hmmm. Taking out the emotion of politics - there is no question who you should vote for. I realy don't think Helen Zille has only minority group party's interests at heart - but the country as a whole.

      maseratifitt - 2011-05-16 21:10

      We get these kind of comments because of our electoral system. It is a system designed by politicians for politicians and is based on the principles of "divide and rule" and "winner takes all". South African politics is driven by emotions like fear and mistrust; conditions of megalomania and narcissism. Huge ego's are at play and even our ancestors can determine the outcome of an election. Our system has nothing to do with managing a country in the 21st century, but everything to do with raping and pillaging, as was done over centuries past. We can make a quantum leap towards freedom, democracy,unity,civilization and prosperity by updating the system. Parallel with that, there should be a massive drive in real education, with warlike vigour. The country's future is in the hands of the politicians, and they will never take the steps outlined above. Hence the key to progress is depoliticization. A real revolution.

  • Stateman - 2011-05-16 15:12

    Lend your vote to the DA and take it back in 5 years if there is no change. Who is the Most corrupt? Who is abusing OUR tax money? There are too many immigrants and ILLEGALS!! Dr. Gule sent secretaries on a 18 day course to London what aload of garbage.

  • DRYGOII - 2011-05-16 15:12

    ??????? ???? ???????.We as blacks?We as chinees?We as whites? I can give this country max 10 years to become second Zimbabwe

  • POLLENYS - 2011-05-16 15:18

    SUPER QUOTE: "Zwelinzima Vavi put it well this week. The conviction of the wife of the state security minister Siyabonga Cwele for dealing in drugs "is the kind of thing that can only happen in a country that is close to becoming a banana republic". -------- Close? How close? Well, after this election we're going to be much closer . . .

      Matt - 2011-05-16 16:15

      You mean, when the convicted wife of an ANC minister still continues to work...

  • Tiago - 2011-05-16 15:18

    hahaha this is ridiculous !! MAKI you are the biggest racist on here firstly !!! clearly have no real backbone and just agree with whoever supports black domination !!!!! And then i read u said DA is the NEW NATIONA PARTY !!! remember who martinus van schalkwyk joined recently ??thats right the ANC !!! talk about being uneducated ........that rally was a proper bunch of dictators trying to feed on the uneducated South Africans fear of apartheid ! Do you not see that apartheid will never happen again >even worse was the interview with Floyd (cant remember surname) of the ANC youth league last night on SABC 3 !! i have never laughed so much in my life he even tried to call the presenter racist who was also black !!! lets just end racial issues in SOuth Africa ! If your stupid enough to Vote ANC again then do so ! and in 10 years when we dont have jobs (blacks and whites ) and malema is our president and we have a clear dictatorship you can look back and see what an idiot you were 10 years before

  • Papsak - 2011-05-16 15:19

    @Psychotron, who do you think Gill Marcus is going to vote for? Do you know who she is? What about Derek Hannekom? Ring a bell? Know their race? Ahaa...

      jamiesquarepants - 2011-05-16 15:54

      Gill Marcus will probably vote for the DA. Anyway, it's her business who she votes for. Oh, and whites aren't the ones spewing racial rhetoric - that's Malema's game. Shame on you.

      Boerseun - 2011-05-16 17:22

      Sadly you get whites with their heads in their behinds as well.

  • DRYGOII - 2011-05-16 15:19

    I came in RSA in 1996/from USSR-beleived in Mandela Rainbow nation)))).How naive I was.....We as a russians helped you as a black to fight apartheid.Now we as a russians are as a white in total opposition to you as a black-rassists/

      Matt - 2011-05-16 16:17

      But Russia is well known for racism against blacks there?

  • Isha - 2011-05-16 15:22

    woot DA's time to shine and bring everyone together is almost here

  • FerretGee - 2011-05-16 15:23

    The ANC commentators on here will say anything to try and discredit Zille and the DA, they look past the ANC's failures over the past 17 years by throwing "350 years of apartheid" and "whites are ciminals" and "colonialism" yet, they fail to realise that during the dark days of apartheid, there were many people who fought for equality, Zille, Helen Suzman, the PFP etc did all they could to try and redress the imbalance. The Nats had the country by the balls by using exactly the same strategeis that the current ANC uses: FEAR. Sadly the ANC is not the party that it's founders envisioned and as I have said before, Govan Mbeki, Walter Sisulu, Chris Hani, Harry Gwala etc are not turning in their graves, they are spinning. As ancestors they ARE angry, angry that this is NOT what they fought for!! Beware the ancestors...

      danieln - 2011-05-16 15:41

      What would you like to debate on MJ84? The only comments from the ANC supporters are than the DA is a white racist party, or that all the facts around ANC lead municipalities are lies, or that Malema saying whites are criminals creates a racial divide? You don't want debate, because that might require logic and facts

      Steve Wonderboy - 2011-05-16 16:03

      Please talk sense and we'd reply in a likewise manner.

      FerretGee - 2011-05-16 16:20

      @MJ84@24.com Whenever anyone who is not pro-ANC starts a comments stream, the usual ANC denialists throw up exatcly the same arguments (Some of which I listed in my comment above) I have yet to see a formal debate that has not degenerated into name calling. Not one ANC supporter has acknowledged the failure of the current government when it comes to Eskom, the SABC, Transnet, the road infrastruture, hospitals, education etc etc, ALL of which were in full working and profitable order when they were handed over in 1994. And further, we may often "report your comments", but when your youth leader calls all whites "criminals" and the leader of the opposition a "monkey" it is within our democratic rights to report them. Perhaps you should learn the actual meaning of the word "democracy" which, is what the old ANC struggled for!

      Educated - 2011-05-16 16:40

      MJ84@24.com - you should try having a civilised conversation then instead of throwing insults at all da supporters. That way I'm sure your comment won't be deleted.

      Boerseun - 2011-05-16 17:23

      Funny enough it's all rhetoric, but without any prove.

  • n s - 2011-05-16 15:25

    I can't believe how much time and preperation the ANC spends on attacking the DA, surely they have more important things to worry about? Is this really the only thing they know doing to try and win voters? It is obvious they are not delivering if they try and shift focus off the important things - like the treasury report - and attack anyone that shows signs of a democracy, surely building and not attacking is the ANC way? Or is the ANC just showing their true nature, will they ever be democratic and allow anyone else to compete for votes? If they were so secure about their voters, then why worry about the DA and call them names, maybe Zuma and Malema should go back to school and understand the meaning of being immature.

  • Mark Struwig - 2011-05-16 15:26

    Here is a fun fact... if the DA do win some of the elections what's to stop the ANC from turning them into ungovernable war zones? If the DA ever does come to power... expect civil war (or to be more politically correct... little Zim)

      Cire - 2011-05-16 16:02

      I agree that the reaction of the ANC to a win by the DA is something to worry about.

      Anonymus - 2011-05-16 16:53

      im will to take arms and go down taking some of those mud pelicans with me!!

  • Ronel - 2011-05-16 15:26

    imagine we fire all the blacks in our companies.I wonder how south africa will survive without our tax money

      jowza - 2011-05-16 15:30

      how will you survive?

      Taurusaurus - 2011-05-16 15:57

      Excuse you, Ronel, you sound like you're actually trying to imply that the majority of white-owned companies who employ blacks due to BEE company benefits, tax-discounts, and subsidy offers, contribute more tax through their black employees than they would otherwise - a laughable sentiment, because its too stupid to even consider as plausible. Think for a second; what demographic majority fills informal settlements, RDP houses, and falls below the minimum income bracket thus resulting in them living off welfare and the government? BINGO; non-whites! So, how are they paying tax? You can't answer? Because the majority of them DO NOT PAY TAX!! Open your eyes and smell the fresh air, Ronel - you're delusional!

      Matt - 2011-05-16 16:19

      @ Ronel - why would we do that? Stupid point.

      INFINIT - 2011-05-16 16:31

      U ARE AN ABSOLUTE IDIOT. THINK FIRST BEFORE YOU WRITE. THERE'S NO RELEVANCE IN YOUR COMMENT.YOU KNOW FOR A FACT THAT YOU WILL NOT FIRE US BUT YET YOU STILL WONDER.CLEARLY YOU HAVE TOO MUCH TIME ON YOUR HANDS

      Victor Paul - 2011-05-17 12:54

      If a person's salary falls within a particular bracket, you pay tax. Everybody pays VAT. It is not just white people who pay taxes. Educate yourself before you speak because you sound no better than Malema!

  • bytjie - 2011-05-16 15:30

    i get so sad reading everyone's comments..whether it be black or white or chinese or indian or whoever. don't you guys get it..the enemy is winning and it is not the anc or the da or zuma or julius or zille the day will come when we will know the whole truth the only difference between me and my black/coloured friend is the amount of melanin in our skins i pray for the day that people will open their eyes and and start seeing everyone for who they are not how they look or what their perceptions are. thing is most of us are living in fear. fear that one or the other will try and make my life living hell. fear is the enemy's most powerfull weapon. lies cause fear. come on people. stop attacking each other and start working together to build the south africa that nelson mandela envisioned. one where we actualy get along and live in a democracy as it should be

      Taurusaurus - 2011-05-16 15:53

      "Ask not what your country can do for you; rather ask what you can do for your country!" :)

  • Chang Yi - 2011-05-16 15:36

    Cape Town has always been what it is today not because of the DA but because the apartheid government favoured this City...further more, the recent development in Cape Town is as a result of the soccer world cup...Even if the ANC was in charge, it was going to be the same as it is..and maybe even more development in the poor areas than just having stupid bicycle lanes...I nearly voted DA but the majority of it's followers are damn too racist!!!

      Taurusaurus - 2011-05-16 15:45

      Nelson Mandela placed the bid for the 2010 Soccer World Cup. Cape Town was more readily developed because of honesty, integrity, and lack of corruption / greed. The ANC use taxpayer's money for personal million-rand cars, luxurious mansions, expensive sushi and parties, corrupt and flawed tenders worth MILLIONS to friends who run fake businesses. The ANC call whites, indians and coloreds dirty, unneeded, and even worse, unspeakable things. The ANC are uneducated, filthy (Zuma has HOW MANY WIVES???? anything more than 1 is a SIN), corrupt, thieving racists!!

      Clinton - 2011-05-16 15:58

      Chang are you for real? No really are you? Cape Town has always been like this because of apartheid SA? Dude! Really!?!? With comments like these you actually can call yourself a South African. All I can say Chang is, I will go down on my knees tonight and thank God that Nelson Mandela showed all South Africans so much compassion by nurturing a culture of forgiveness and reconsiliation rather than greed and deviding us into further racial lines. The Cape has been under ANC rule before but greed and infighting allowed the DA to win it over because ANC CADRES was so obsessed in power and money that they forgot why they where voted in there in the first place. I can understand you resentment towards "The White Gevaar!" but you need to stop and think about what your'e saying. If the majority of white and black and indian and colored people are racist then surely there will be no future for my child or yours in this country. I dont want my child to grow up with this racist attitude yet Malema and the majority of the current ruling party seems fine with keeping this racial devide going. If you cant see further than now it might be better to think of your childrens future. When my girl turns 19 will she be able to feel comfortable walking into a bar with the majority of black clients or is she going to shriek and turn around because "she thinks all black people are racist". I dont want that future for her and I think neither do you for your children. So why keep on endorsing it?

      Matt - 2011-05-16 16:22

      "the recent development in Cape Town is as a result of the soccer world cup" Er, Johannesburg had 2 stadiums during the World Cup, but the surrounding areas still look like a warzone... ANC territory. I dread to think what the overseas fans thought about driving through JHB CBD, Hillbrow, Yeoville, to get to Ellis Park - especially if locals told them how the areas used to look!

      INFINIT - 2011-05-16 16:32

      MY SENTIMENTS EXACLY

      Educated - 2011-05-16 17:01

      "I nearly voted DA but the majority of it's followers are damn too racist!!!" - So you thought you'd give the genocide thing a go then hey.

      Boerseun - 2011-05-16 17:24

      You must be joking??

      lacisnesnon - 2011-05-17 11:48

      Chang Yi -> bugger off

  • DRYGOII - 2011-05-16 15:42

    I think white people invested a lot in creation of rainbow nation-result is around. Sorry fellows South africans -black rassism kills your country,and I'll not be surprise that after a while you'll be crossing Zimbabwean borders seeking for refuge,escaping from your black-brothers....It is coming,after all whites will leave the country........

  • Vela Stardust - 2011-05-16 15:51

    It is beyond comprehension that the current ANC have allowed Zuma and Malema to discredit the legacy of Madiba and the original ANC. The singing 'bring me my gun' and 'shoot the boer'. ANC must be scrapping the bottom of the barrel if this is the best they can come up with as leaders !

      Matt - 2011-05-16 16:23

      If "shoot the Boer" was such an ingrained part of Africn culture, why have they only started singing it in the last 1-2 years? Why have we not been hearing it regularly since 1994? Er, because JZ and JM have a voice...