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2 denied bail in Kazi murder

2012-08-13 14:42

Johannesburg - The two men accused of an assault on a man, who later died of his injuries, appeared without a public audience in the Krugersdorp Magistrate's Court on Monday.

The pair, charged with murder and assault, were denied bail and the matter was postponed until 21 August.

The two are accused of killing 27-year-old Muhammad Fayaaz Kazi and assaulting his close friend, Anser Mahmood, outside a Chicken Licken outlet in Magaliesburg last Monday.

The men had made fun of Kazi's beard and insulted him when he confronted them, and a fight ensued.

Kazi died in hospital of his injuries on Tuesday.

Family disappointed


Family members, the public and the media were denied access to the courtroom.

A member of the pro-Muslim lobby group Media Review Network, Iqbal Jassad, said: "We were denied access because of legal procedures... an identity parade is yet to be [held] for the two accused."

Kazi's family also voiced disappointment at being excluded from the court appearance.

"We are obviously disappointed that we didn't have an opportunity to see the accused inside today, and we hope this doesn't happen again," family spokesperson Zahid Asmal told reporters at the Krugersdorp Magistrate's Court.

Family members, the public, and journalists were told the appearance would take place in Court D, only to learn later that the two accused had appeared in a courtroom across the hallway.

"It's taken all of us by surprise as we were denied access into a free court," Asmal said.

Relatives tried to force their way into the court, but the door was locked. They knocked and pleaded, but to no avail.

Police told the family that the reason nobody was allowed into the courtroom was because the men still had to appear in an identity parade.

Justice

Mahmood, a blue bruise under his eye, was at court on Monday. He said he wanted to see justice done.

A Muslim woman who participated in a protest outside the court said more people were expected to show their support at the next court appearance.

She said Muslims across the country were enraged, and some wanted the two men to be released into their custody.

Asmal said the family and the Muslim community would allow justice to take its course.

"There are talks of protest action, but we are mature enough to deal with this in a sensible manner," Asmal said.


Comments
  • gladlad - 2012-08-13 14:47

    What were they finking.........

      jowza1 - 2012-08-13 15:17

      Michael.the fully deserve whats coming to them

      truthis.tway - 2012-08-13 15:17

      @michael - I actually suspect that they are not white. Race is never mentioned nor are their names. If they are white usually the word racist would have been used in every headline wrt this story.

      ismaeel.majiet.96 - 2012-08-13 15:21

      @Michael-> This has nothing to do with Colour, they where mocked, assulted then murdered just because he had a beard?????. The killers who did this (White, black, brown) should pay for what they done. I hope they get what they deserve.

      JasonMichelle - 2012-08-13 15:27

      They actually do say they are two white people, just by the way... http://www.news24.com/SouthAfrica/News/Man-called-bin-Laden-before-fatal-beating-20120808

      jowza1 - 2012-08-13 15:35

      blou.john.your arguments are getting tamer by the minute

      Willie - 2012-08-13 15:41

      @ michael.vanrheenen.9 who mentioned colour of the suspects? tell us what you know Mike.

      boffin.bobreturns - 2012-08-13 15:45

      @ makenawn....It was mentioned last week that the perps were white.

      truthis.tway - 2012-08-13 15:46

      @JasonMichelle - Thanks for the correction. I didn't read that article.

      veldt66 - 2012-08-13 16:19

      Halt the debate, it's two white guys involved, but that's not important someone lost his life here.

      hleriche - 2012-08-13 16:26

      Guys and gals. This is a race issue. It's not me saying it or anybody else but this same media channel we're talking on. They started the race issue for the mere reason, race is never mentioned. Now that it is, it's an international story of "racist Afrikaners" again. Most Afrikaners, including myself are glad the guys were caught. I hate it when things like this happen, but now with the media that played the race card, it is now an international fiasco, and best of all, a whole ethnic group of people are stereotyped. How's that for racism? The media in SA, has a lot to answer for to alienate South African with their reporting, based on using race to sell newspapers.

      klippies.coke.7 - 2012-08-13 16:49

      @Michael : Pure boer se moer man! On the article about the Farmer that died in the fire with the daughter looking on you called the farmer dumb for not calling the firebrigade. Don't call yourself a boer, it's people like you who give the rest of us a bad name.

  • gerhardus.windpomp - 2012-08-13 14:54

    Ai, NOT good!

  • shirley.steenkamp - 2012-08-13 14:55

    No bail,straight to jail and the key to be lost for eternity! These senseless killings HAVE to stop!!!

      jowza1 - 2012-08-13 16:08

      ttaaun.i think you are the idiot here

      Willie - 2012-08-13 16:33

      @ ttaunyana what are you tring to tell us please stop using high frequency english

      shirley.steenkamp - 2012-08-13 16:53

      ttaunyana: You and your fat ass are nothing more than a racist waste of space and oxygen! Murder is murder-no matter race,colur or religion!!!! You should ask for a refund on your school fees-oops sorry I forgot-you probably never paid any!

  • Ettiene - 2012-08-13 14:59

    White or not "hulle moet hang"!!!!!!

  • rob.bayliss.94 - 2012-08-13 15:00

    Bad or stupid (or both) guys is they are identified....but, I cannot remember the last time I heard about someone being denied bail. Maybe they are especially at risk (of either running or being killed) for some reason!

      richard.schmode.9 - 2012-08-13 15:13

      i agree,why no bail

      shirley.steenkamp - 2012-08-13 16:54

      I think its probably more to do with their own safety.

  • goodguy.buthelezi - 2012-08-13 15:02

    Hope that they stay in Jail for a long time. We dont need these people in our society. If people want to follow in the footsteps of Boremaag, Terblanche, Dekok and Derby Lewis then they must rot in jail

      wilhelm.grobbelaar - 2012-08-13 15:13

      Agreed. They should stay there a long time without the possibility of parole. Why kill a person because of his beard. So it means they must be killed based on their weak intelligence.

      DJVANMAN - 2012-08-13 15:15

      Is then only the Boeremag, Terblanche, De kok and Derby Lewis that killed senselessly? What about the likes of McBride and the other Comrades that killed inocent people? But I agree these misfits must be taken from society

      jowza1 - 2012-08-13 15:56

      is that the only thing you can think of?ttaun

  • naushad.adam.9 - 2012-08-13 15:03

    Murdered because he had a beard, what would happen to poor Jesus (peace be upon him) !!!!! Must make you wonder cause if he were to descend right now, he would look like a Muslim !!!

      louise.cook.127 - 2012-08-13 15:41

      The beard was just an excuse - he was killed because he was DIFFERENT! To be different can be extremely threatening to those who only know their own clan.

  • Gavin - 2012-08-13 15:04

    good, they fled the scene of a heinous crime - let them reap the whirlwind. we don't need trash like this on our streets or in our chicken lickens.

  • arm.witmens - 2012-08-13 15:14

    "She said Muslims across the country were enraged, and some wanted the two men to be released into their custody" - did they get hit with the stupid stick? We are a civilised country ( well, more or less ) and we do not drag people from their homes or jail to be tried by a kangaroo court and beheaded in a public place.

      jowza1 - 2012-08-13 15:19

      and your point is?

      arm.witmens - 2012-08-13 15:25

      read slower, maybe you'll get it numbnuts.

      arm.witmens - 2012-08-13 15:28

      READ SLOWER. Then you may get it. No promises. I find your lack of grasping simple concepts disturbing.

      nazeem.majiet.7 - 2012-08-13 15:30

      Witmens,You used to hang people,spit on people deny people to walk with you on the same beaches and in public places and the list goes on.Fortunately I believe in forgiveness.GOD will be the final Judge of all our actions.

      jowza1 - 2012-08-13 15:39

      arm witmens.whether i read it fast or slow,your prejudices stick out like a sore thumb

      louise.cook.127 - 2012-08-13 15:43

      Really? Ever heard of mob justice? And that's as a direct result of the collapse of the "civilised" justice system in SA.

  • nigel.cupido.73 - 2012-08-13 15:17

    Two fresh asses for jail...ooohh Pappa wag vir julle. Gonna taste black, coloured, indian, muslim...alle soorte! Stupid racists!

  • jacqui.daanevanrensburg - 2012-08-13 15:18

    Nobody allowed to attend? What were they scared of? A riot?. I hope these idiots get sentenced good and proper. They deserve it.

  • hannes.piek.5 - 2012-08-13 15:20

    I find the accused's behaviour repulsive. One does not have the right to take the life of another except maybe, and the emohasis is on the maybe part, when threatened with serious bodily harm, and even then you have to think twice/thrice before committing such an act. To think it was not even done in self-defence. Nee-wat julle moet maar vrot innie tronk!

  • KReddy - 2012-08-13 15:21

    Reading comments here and in the past on other articles regarding this story I can say one thing : the racial mudslinging is pathetic. We need to acknowledge that the perception of \black\ ppl commiting crime is not higher than that of other races as they are the majority. Consider the race ratios in the population. Its obvious that the bigger race population will feature more in media coverage with significantly less stories on other races. All races commit crime and it gets reported in some cases. The reporters bias must also be considered in fuelling racial polarization. A crime is a crime, doesn't matter who committed it. There is no justification for killing someone deliberatly in the fashion of this case as we are a democratic multi racial society. Rather we appreciate each others differences that makes us all so unique. Every single person is different from the next and if \difference\ is causing us to kill then there's no future.

      clive.kihn - 2012-08-13 15:35

      Well said, Sir. Those who committed, and those who try and make excuses for, this barbaric act are no better than those who kill innocents because they practise a different faith.

      Leviy Moneymaker - 2012-08-13 15:45

      wow well sad*

  • vandeventer.sarel - 2012-08-13 15:24

    Bring trug die dood straf, dis al hoe jy al die ras moorde gaan stop sit

  • richard.hipkin - 2012-08-13 15:26

    SO then the courts have found them guilty? Didn't realise. I thought one has to be actually found guilty of murder in a court of law, my bad... IF the evidence points to murder then they must go to jail for the rest of their miserable lives. However, if one takes the "penis" incident in Durban a few years back where a harmless jaunt in the mens loo resulted in an Indian cop killing three white men then one needs to look at how this "murder" took place, was it that the jaunt at the Muslim resulted in him "overreacting" and in the ensuing fight he died, or did he attack the men with something in which case self defense.. But as usual, trial by media and the News24 commenters are vilifying everyone and everything with no facts. Let's see what the evidence produces first before we lynch people.

      vicky.nielsen.54 - 2012-08-13 19:06

      Wow, finally a comment of a sensible nature!

  • Peter Zylstra - 2012-08-13 15:26

    Please remember SA is not a muslim country so the law will take it's course!

      jowza1 - 2012-08-13 15:42

      your mental capacity has not taken its course yet

      joyce.kweyama - 2012-08-13 18:16

      SA not a Muslim country AND definitely NOT a Christian one

  • shellerjc.rjc - 2012-08-13 15:27

    OKay so no ID parade as yet?? Just mark my words........ Becuase of that, this case will be thrown out pf court due to a technicality - Its not right - They must pay for what they did.

      themba.thwala.98 - 2012-08-13 15:30

      News reports earlier this morning said the men were identified by a number of witnesses

      shellerjc.rjc - 2012-08-13 15:38

      @ themba.thwala.98: I know there were witnesses, but inthis country, that means JACK. In the laws of this country, one MUST be positivley Identified in an official identity parade, and seeing as this was has not been done, AS YET, This case could very well be thrown out. Trust me, I have heard of cases similar to this, where one small itty bitty thing caused the case to be withdrawn, reason? Insufficient evidence.

  • charmaine.mcdonald2 - 2012-08-13 15:31

    Justice will be done and these senseless killings and racial attacks will end. May God have Mercy on all the victims and grant healing to the families for their loss.

  • chez.kri - 2012-08-13 15:37

    It's not just Muslims who are outraged. This is an embarrassment to South Africa.

  • rupert.vansittert - 2012-08-13 15:41

    He he hulle gaan skirties wees in die tronk - ma se brekers en stekers. Sterkte boys - lots of rape and no escape. Tappets soos julle wat ons afrikaners 'n slegte naam gee. Just for the record dear readers: not all afrikaners are as backward and stupid like these 2 morons. Dis nou wat brannas en coke julle in die sak gebring het - ons almal ken die 4 stadiums van dronkword: word mooi, word slim, word sterk, word gedonner (in hulle geval: word ge-rape). Tot later heer editeur als weer ik iets bespeur...

      devon.abbas - 2012-08-13 16:43

      Van Sittert? Isn't that like a well known racist surname?

      Cedric - 2012-08-13 16:48

      thnx rupert wise ppl lk u are scarce my friend.

      rupert.vansittert - 2012-08-13 16:57

      Once again a tattered old card called racist is being played - just another rhetoric by some previously-disadvantged-world-owes-me-everything sorry ass. Even though my statement had no racist conotation.

      shabir.ahmed.7796 - 2012-08-13 21:42

      Well said!

  • Michael - 2012-08-13 16:02

    They are innocent until someone proves them guilty, they are not guilty people who are trying to prove their innocence, sometimes democracy sucks ne?

      vicky.nielsen.54 - 2012-08-13 18:51

      ?

  • michelle.h.koekemoer - 2012-08-13 16:03

    Just think that if Mr Kazi had ignored the loudmouthed idiots and not confronted them, things may have turned out very differently. According to an earlier report they were commenting on him in Afrikaans and he understood what they were saying and then confronted them.... this doesn't in anyway condone what happened but sometimes it is just better to raise your standards and walk away.

      Michael - 2012-08-13 16:10

      You are very right, some conflicts can be avoided, the thing is people dont understand that avoiding conflict is another way of winning battles.

      amos.motsai - 2012-08-13 20:01

      You are right but is hurting when somebody reminds you where you come from calling you with racist word you can't ignore that.I wish Billaden was alive so that he can teach this racist mense to respect other mense

  • surita.coetzer - 2012-08-13 16:08

    It so strange they white now they dont qualified for bail but if you black you can murder a old woman and child then bail is set on R10 000. Strange let you wonder???? O yes is they are rasist that why because only white's are rasist I forgot

      vicky.nielsen.54 - 2012-08-13 18:48

      Your damn right. Really screwed up how not 1 south African has heard the other side of the story but are quick to judge and assume that what the media has posted is of a factual nature! FFS... Had the situation been turned around, would there have even been a mention of the poor white afrikaaner being killed over xenophobia ?????? Get real SA, the truth shall prevail.

  • eric.f.moloi - 2012-08-13 16:13

    Speed justice please:pprosecution without trial

  • UNITY - 2012-08-13 16:14

    No one has the right to take away the life of a man for the sake of mocking his religious beliefs, making fun of his way of life. Neither does anyone has the right to pick on other religions to seek comfort in the wake of this incident.The law will prevail.Let it be known,that this is just an awakening of the rate of the phobia of bullying we have in society,in and out of schools.. The values or none thereof in the manner which individuals are brought up. This does not exempt any other races from behaving in a similar manner. Rather look around you and acknowledge that the matter of bullies need to be addressed in a more serious light starting from school level.

  • lindy.j.booysen - 2012-08-13 16:34

    Dom onnosel Afrikaners! Julle ma's het julle beter grootgemaak! Het julle regtig gedink julle is cool en sterk en manlik? Julle sleep die res van ons (wat op die stadium baklei vir 'n plekkie in die son in ons land) saam met julle kortsigtigheid deur die varkstr@nt!! Mans soos julle behoort nie kinders te he nie, twee van julle soort in ons land is twee te veel!! Ek hoop die skuldige partye sit lank! Julle het mooi gevra daarvoor!

  • toi.mtshali - 2012-08-13 16:46

    As sad as this story for the Kazi's family and friends it has provoked activism and challenged the Muslin community to start a conversation on race in South Africa. Indians and Muslins have thought they are immune and have been a dorsal when it comes to national issues. Most White people hate everything that's not white,get it. The issues Fatima Meer and Gandhi they were challenging are still very much tangible today. Lets unite like how we once did to fight this monster called racism.

      gavin.lott.9 - 2012-08-13 16:58

      Most white people?..way to generalize big guy, that will work!

  • rupert.vansittert - 2012-08-13 17:41

    @devon.abbas: Once again a tattered old card called racist is being played - just another rhetoric by some previously-disadvantged-world-owes-me-everything sorry ass. Even though my statement had no racist conotation

  • amos.motsai - 2012-08-13 19:17

    Die twee mamparaboere sal in die tronk maskandi dans hippppppppppppi

  • zaid.personal - 2012-08-13 20:41

    For all those using this tragedy as an opportunity to create a soap box for themselves to stand on and cry foul because Kasrels spoke out against this, and didn't speak out against that, grow up. This is not about Kasrels, it's not about farm murders and it's not about condoning any other type of crime. The two twisted morons that did this purely because of their cave man mentality is not a reflection of the average Afrikaner in South Africa, the same way that the main stream media propaganda that paints every Muslim as a terrorist is not a reflection of the South African Muslim community, not to mention most Muslims throughout the world. Like they say, going to the main stream media to learn about Muslims is like going to the Nazis to learn about Jews. Only idiots do that.

  • malusi - 2012-08-13 21:23

    They deserve mob justice. Necklace the idiots.

  • janzanele - 2012-08-13 22:24

    what speciality does these two have for them to have secret court hearing,sure these shows that North west is capital city for racist,I won't be suprise if the judge is white

  • marco.joseph.526 - 2012-08-13 23:05

    I think it's time we pass a new law evicting all criminals, racists, hypocrites out of the RSA and all those who are not happy to live in South Africa. They must forfeit their Legal Constitutional right to live in South Africa! Hulle moet f...off!

  • John - 2012-08-14 00:12

    Pass judgement when ALL the facts are in evidence ! What are the FACTS?

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