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41% think Constitution should be changed

2012-05-15 12:08

Johannesburg - People are divided on whether it is time to change the Constitution, according to survey results released on Tuesday.

"Whilst 39% of metro adults feel that South Africa’s Constitution does not need to be changed at the moment, 41% disagree - but 20% gave a 'don’t know' response," according to TNS South Africa.

Two thousand people living in seven metropolitan areas were asked to respond to the statement: "South Africa’s Constitution does not need to be changed at the moment".

Race, age, gender

Thirty-nine percent agreed and 41% disagreed, but there were differences along racial lines.

Among blacks surveyed, 43% agreed, 36% disagreed and 21% said "don't know".

For whites, 31% agreed, 50% disagreed and 19% said "don't know; for coloureds it was 31, 47 and 22%, and for Indians/Asians 27, 59 and 14%.

There were no age and gender differences.

The Constitution sets out the way the government is organised and what the rights and duties of the country's citizens are. It lays out, for example, how a president is appointed, what people can expect in terms of shelter or water.

Pierre de Vos, Claude Leon Foundation Chair in Constitutional Governance at the University of Cape Town, wrote on his blog Constitutionally Speaking in March that the Constitution had been amended 16 times so far.

He said the number of amendments was not as important as the type of amendment.

Most recently, City Press reported that the National House of Traditional Leaders had appealed to Parliament to debate removing a Constitutional clause protecting people on the grounds of sexual orientation.

Comments
  • tammy.laumann - 2012-05-15 12:14

    Is this even worth publishing if they only asked 2000 people? South Africa's population is in the millions. 2000 people is in no way an accurate depiction of South African's thoughts.

      Claudia - 2012-05-15 13:00

      Look up the term "statistical sampling"... PS: It would be interesting to see the results of a survey, testing if the 41% of South Africans, who want their constitution to change actually understand the current constitution. 70% of the people who vote for the ANC are unemployed (and likely unemployable) - such a constituency is very easy to manipulate. Eg simply tell them that the current constitution is the reason they are unemployed - ie they cannot get back what "white people stole from them" (supposedly). The ANC wants nothing more than a Zimbabwe-style "constitution" for SA - it creates an untouchable political dynasty, with a military style police (funded by the country's mineral wealth) to suppress the masses (naturally only after the 'masses' were employed to rob everything from those who built SA's economy over almost 400 years). Give the ANC credit - it understands the critical 70% of its constituency better than anybody else. My sincere advice: pack your bags and leave SA asap - particularly if you value a future for your children and theirs.

      Alan - 2012-05-15 13:14

      Makes no difference really what is in the constitution. Unless we have honest Government who care for the people and have the attitude to SERVE them, and unless we have people that will work for what they want, rather than expect unsustainable handouts, - nothing wil change irrespective of the constitution.

      Muzi - 2012-05-15 13:38

      @Claudia: People that think the constitution MUST be changed are as follows: Black = 36%, White = 50%, Coloureds = 47% & Asians/Indians = 59%. Therefore, the least number of "ANC" voters said they think the constitution must be changed compared to "DA" voters. Please don't be blinded by prejudice....

      Nosiphom - 2012-05-15 14:00

      Muzi - Black is not synonymous with ANC voter and white is not synonymous with DA voter - so be careful with such sweeping statements,

      Muzi - 2012-05-15 14:15

      @Nosiphom: Can see you new in News24! You will learn..... (how prejudice is hidden, justified, etc.... )

      Paul - 2012-05-15 15:08

      @ Claudia isn't this "The ANC wants nothing more than a Zimbabwe-style "constitution" for SA - it creates an untouchable political dynasty, with a military style police (funded by the country's mineral wealth) to suppress the masses (naturally only after the 'masses' were employed to rob everything from those who built SA's economy over almost 400 years). " AN EXACT EXPLANATION OF THE OLD APARTHEID GOVERNMENT?? But because you are of European descent and obviously proud of the old apartheid government you choose to make the example of Zimbabwe instead of the old White oppressors of South Africa...

      Claudia - 2012-05-15 15:22

      @Muzi.., Frankly, the breakdown of the results are utter nonsense. I would like to meet one white South African who says the current South African constitution must be changed. In fact - herewith I present a challenge to any white South African, who thinks the current constitution must be changed, to come forth; and if so, why and how..?

      Louis - 2012-05-15 15:24

      The government needs to be changed

  • Venus - 2012-05-15 12:18

    A compromised constitution must be and it will be changed,The ANC cadres know exactly what the masses want.

      Peter - 2012-05-15 12:45

      They do know exactly what they want, power and money and to not share it with you or any of their supporters. Its a shame your so naive

      Atholl - 2012-05-15 13:33

      -- Why tamper with a Constitution that is the Best on the Continent -- Is the issue ... A. a problem with the Constitution ? ... B. a problem with those who swear an oath to protect the Constitution. ... C. people/organisations who create a Problem and then point to the problem in order to invoke a Reaction to provide a Solution to the problem that was created? ... D. Power and Control thirsty people who are the problem - those who want to weaken the rest by tampering and removing the rights that are protected in the Constitution. The Constitution and Bill of Rights is not a game. If those who are there to implement the Constitution don't approve of the Constitution then they can make way for someone who is happy with these rights.

      ludlowdj - 2012-05-15 16:10

      of course they do, the same thing they want in every other African country, free hand outs. And the west to bail them out every time the run out of food.

  • christian.helberg - 2012-05-15 12:21

    Bull Sh%$, i dont believe a word of it. I cant imagine anyone wanting our rights revoked, unless the anc is brainwashing again.

  • jen.bader - 2012-05-15 12:23

    Change what, isn't that the question that needs asking???

  • Dennis - 2012-05-15 12:28

    As far as I know they need 2/3rds majority which in my book is 66% so guess its a waste of time publishing something we already know. Or is this a sign we are trying to drop even the voting standards to 40%. MMM so called democracy. Its time the ANC gave up the reins and buried them selves in a pool of sorrow. Get a life now, why do we always have to start re writing the constitution. Oh sorry so that the ANC can remain in power until we have no country left.

  • brionyl.french - 2012-05-15 12:30

    Did the reporter suck this out their thumb?

  • Fussed - 2012-05-15 12:40

    I had no idea about this survey, and how many others.

  • Sonja - 2012-05-15 12:45

    99% of the 40% never passed grade 2.

      Alan - 2012-05-15 13:15

      and the 1% that did, had their marks adjusted!

      songezo.kilani - 2012-05-15 14:25

      @sonja lol, dts classic

      Voiceinthedesert.co.za - 2012-05-15 17:17

      @Sonja - thank God your comments are more clever than the choices you make in life

  • Sheralee - 2012-05-15 12:46

    I sometimes wonder at the kinds of news stories posted on News 24 . . . what happened to real journalism....

      Harold - 2012-05-15 20:25

      I agree with you Jones. This whole article is rubbish and News 24 is looking for a bit of sensationalism or its supporting the ANC,s moves to change the constitution. There are so many flaws in thier jornalism it lacks substance and factual information and only seeks to create conflict. It is definitely not a reconciliatary media member.

  • mark.halbert - 2012-05-15 12:47

    http://www.politicsweb.co.za/politicsweb/view/politicsweb/en/page71654?oid=298073&sn=Detail&pid=71616

  • mike.clery - 2012-05-15 12:48

    ... were asked to respond to the statement: "South Africa’s Constitution does not need to be changed at the moment". What a ridiculous survey question. Changed how? It could mean anything!

  • eil33nn - 2012-05-15 12:50

    "removing a Constitutional clause protecting people on the grounds of sexual orientation" So that they can "corrective rape" women?

  • Zaheer - 2012-05-15 12:54

    I’m not sure If I reading this right... The headline reads: "41% think Constitution should be changed." Where is this 41% coming from? As this line says: "Thirty-nine percent agreed and 41% disagreed, but there were differences along racial lines." So what is it? 41% agreed or 41% disagreed? Who did this math? Blacks 43 – 36 - 21 Whites 31 – 50 - 19 Coloureds 31 – 47 - 22 Indian/Asian 27 – 59 - 14 Average 33 – 48 - 19 Anyways... Where do they do these surveys anyway. I never hear about them or know anyone who knows about them either, Until the results are miraculously displayed somewhere.

      Muzi - 2012-05-15 13:43

      Did you pass matric? how do you get to an average without knowing how many samples were taken for each group. To answer your 1st question, read the 2nd paragraph: "Whilst 39% of metro adults feel that South Africa’s Constitution does not need to be changed at the moment, 41% disagree - but 20% gave a 'don’t know' response," according to TNS South Africa.

      John - 2012-05-15 15:39

      Ignore this Muzi person for he/she is a clearly an internet troll. He/She is also the personification of the troubles in South Africa. By not entitling people to their opinions but instead would resort to mocking or insulting people instead of constructively debating with his/her own opinions and counter arguments. They would rather force their views onto others rather than have them formulate their own ideas and beliefs.

  • TheyTookMyNickLaZynEko - 2012-05-15 12:57

    the ruling party CONSTANTLY undermines the constitution!!!

  • Jacques - 2012-05-15 13:14

    change it now in this global time of unsertainty and you will pay the price!!!

  • Rob - 2012-05-15 13:16

    Was this really the question asked in the survey? However you answer you are labelled. If no you are retrogressive conservative If yes you are an unthinking reactionary Of course the constitution needs to be changed, after all the world has changed and it would madness not to have a vibrant constitution. The issues are in what way should it be changed and what process/authority is needed to make that change. Loaded surveys serve a purpose, usually a sureptitious one.

  • phinda.buthelezi - 2012-05-15 13:35

    If poeple love the peace they have now in South Africa. then they should stay away from what is actaully keeping the peace. "THE CONSTITUTION ALONE"

  • jacobs.clint - 2012-05-15 13:46

    99.6685% of ANC politicians are corrupt....Just more stats pulled from the sphincter!

  • jacobs.clint - 2012-05-15 13:46

    99.6685% of ANC politicians are corrupt....Just more stats pulled from the sphincter!

  • Deon - 2012-05-15 13:53

    Some "young cadres" wanted to change the willing buyer willing seller rules re farms, mines and banks. We will probably then not have the best Constitution anymore. Legalising theft is not on.

  • goodman.segage - 2012-05-15 14:00

    Change is welcome as long it will benefit the country at large. I have few things that I think need to be amended: Public Protector-more power. Education primary entry- change the beginner age, that they can be admited as early as 5yr old.SAPS monitor formerlyICD- be given more power than SAPS. Liquor admission- be increased to 21 yrs old. Straight Marriage-decrease qualifying years to female to 16 yrs. Hope this will eliminate statutory rapes. Since nowadays ladies are more nvolved in sex in their teen'stage. Hope all is fine for now.

  • Mkhandela - 2012-05-15 14:07

    Leave the Constitution alone!!!

  • nishan.sitlu - 2012-05-15 14:10

    Can we trust government to change it for the better? and not to better suite their own agendas....

  • songezo.kilani - 2012-05-15 14:14

    If you ask me this survey was useless and too inconclusive, 2000 ppl make 0.004% of our population which is estimated @50 mil, so thats not even 1%. So if 8 women out of 2000 in campus want too sleep with me does that mean most/all want to?

  • Gavin - 2012-05-15 14:28

    apart hate isn't dead it's just under new management.

  • maryjane.mphahlele - 2012-05-15 14:34

    i do not see nything wrong with the constitution and don't understand why should people think it needs to be changed

  • Ina - 2012-05-15 15:53

    I suppose one should know first what they want to change in the constitution. Especially as it had been acclaimed as such a perfect constitution by all when it was first conceived.

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