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43 presidential remission offenders back in jail

2012-06-12 08:21

Johannesburg - Forty-three of the offenders who were granted special remission of sentence by President Jacob Zuma are back in jail, the department of correctional services said on Tuesday.

President Jacob Zuma announced on 27 April - Freedom Day - that his administration would grant the special remission to specific categories of sentenced offenders, probationers and parolees.

Police Minister Nathi Mthethwa had said more than 35 000 offenders could be released, depending on an assessment.

It was estimated that around 20 855 probationers and parolees, and 14 651 sentenced inmates would be released "conditionally or unconditionally" in terms of an assessment process.

Offenders who qualified could only be released from 14 May in "controllable groups".

Those sentenced for aggressive, sexual, firearm and drug related offences did not qualify for the special remission.

Comments
  • thethird.wors - 2012-06-12 08:25

    okay... but why are they back? Please don't tell me it's because they went out and committed crime, SURELY NOT?

      jman.man.71 - 2012-06-12 08:27

      I bet at least 70% of those released will be back sooner or later..

      Mike - 2012-06-12 08:33

      It's an expected result and that's why they need to be in prison.

      robertmroba.mahlagaume - 2012-06-12 08:34

      I know one of them commited murder already in LIMPOPO.

      Marion - 2012-06-12 08:44

      It has not been unheard of for someone to re-offend purely to get back into jail because they have become institutionalized and cannot face the outside world. But if that is their motivation they should just have refused the remission to begin with.

      Squeegee - 2012-06-12 08:45

      Victims of crime committed by these people should be able to claim for compensation from the ANC.

      lorain.maseko - 2012-06-12 08:48

      Ah,yeah, that's pretty much what happened, i doubt that they back in coz they just didnt like the environment outside so they decided to voluntarily come back.

      merven.halo - 2012-06-12 08:49

      Zuma should be sued for every crime these criminals commit.

      GrootWitHaai - 2012-06-12 08:51

      One criminal releasing many criminals. All belong together in one tiny cell.

      Jack - 2012-06-12 08:58

      @wesleywt-Perhaps you shouldn't have 23 children. Perhaps you wouldn;t resort to crime if you could at least look after 1 of your kids. The mentality behind it all is just mind boggling.

      nigel.burgess.52 - 2012-06-12 09:00

      robertmroba.mahlagaume - yes you probably would

      Mark - 2012-06-12 09:06

      Zuma is such a chop - he couldn't be a worse leader if he tried...

      jason.children - 2012-06-12 09:16

      Its not just Zuma, its the whole rotten bunch! Freedom fighters can not run a country!!! Its been proven time and time again! They need to put professionals in place who are qualified for the jobs!

      Hugo - 2012-06-12 09:38

      So what u think? that they went back cause they were HOME SICK?

      Gavin - 2012-06-12 09:39

      so much for zumas gift to the nation - and so much for our justice system rehabilitating these scumbags.

      Susan - 2012-06-12 09:42

      They miss the free hotel?

      ina.cripps - 2012-06-12 09:54

      Now why does that not surprise me. They probably didn't like the idea of not having free board and lodging!

      Janice - 2012-06-12 09:55

      The jokes on Zuma, ONCE AGAIN!!!!!

      Klippies - 2012-06-12 11:29

      The jokes on Zuma, this country and every idiot voting ANC. However, the ANC will be seeing it as progress: "Look comrade, Zuma releases so many prisoners and only some commit crimes again! Success, the prisons have more room!" That's the mentality we are dealing with.

      Daniel - 2012-06-12 14:48

      I would like to know why they bother still keeping the jails operational? It already is a free for all on the law abiding citizens. Close down all the jails, the farcical SAPS and the struggling judiciary. All that remains is to change this country's unofficial status of an outlaw haven to being official.

      louis.olivier.988 - 2012-06-12 17:38

      Free Bording & lodging is why they are back

      Denise - 2012-06-12 18:47

      Who can forget the time in 1998 when Nelson Mandela unleashed 9000 criminals on the South African public as his “Birthday gift” to the nation on his 80th birthday? Crime skyrocketed and made South Africa one of the most dangerous countries in the world. In 2005, Thabo Mbeki did worse than Mandela. He unleashed about 30,000 criminals on the public, within 3 months, 131 of them were behind bars again. A year later and almost all of them were in prison again. In their wake they left a trail of rapes, hi-jackings, murders, assaults, etc. Releasing sentenced criminals from jail is a crime against humanity. The function of a government is to protect its citizens against the initiation of force. To protect the rights of the citizens such as the right to life, own property, and the pursuit of happiness, as stated in the constitution. By unleashing thousands of criminals on the public, the ANC is violating every single human right the citizens of South Africa have in the constitution. Expect a massive crime wave to hit the country like a destructive Tsunami soon. People who fall victim to crime and who are lucky to survive it, should sue the government if it can be proven that any of the criminals were one of those released early. The ANC should be held accountable for every irresponsible thing they do.

      Blixum - 2012-06-13 08:00

      Because they want to be back. They get everything for free inside and do not have to steal to survive.

      Preshen - 2012-06-13 08:22

      There is no place like home

      Sharon - 2012-06-15 14:45

      The 43 are all repeat offenders who have committed a crime including rape since they were released

  • Curry - 2012-06-12 08:28

    Is "back in Prison" the same as "redeployed"?

      dennis.vermaak.5 - 2012-06-12 08:32

      Very clever and a valid question too !!

      procold2 - 2012-06-12 08:40

      luv it.

      Deon - 2012-06-12 08:44

      Maybe the were given a choice, jail or become an Anc cadre.

      Herman - 2012-06-12 08:50

      Good one!

      Gavin - 2012-06-12 09:21

      this part of the ANC's shock and awe campaign, they do it and they think we'll be awed, they then sit there in shock when it back fires. this is what happens when you put the nymphomaniac in charge of the sex toys.

      Clive - 2012-06-12 10:00

      Crime is said to be down how can this be?

      Daniel - 2012-06-12 16:48

      No, they were redeployed by the Prez. They are now once again retired, living on a residual income obtained via taxation off the working class. His plan to get more money into the private kitty and have them create a direct double taxation on us had backfired as I guess he had not taken into account how great conditions are "inside" nowadays.

      Oom - 2012-06-25 15:52

      Im very suprised that our police managed to catch them twice....lol

  • ryan.sabatier - 2012-06-12 08:29

    another epic fail . Well done zooma ,

      JohanMaree - 2012-06-12 09:02

      Ask yourself this, if your're Zuma and you need to bust 2 buddies out of jail or they will spill the beans on you, what would the best cover/diversion be, how about release them with 34 998 other guys... see slight of hand, never under estimate the ANC's sneakiness.

      Erich - 2012-06-12 09:33

      I like the phrase where it says the prisoners were released 'in controllable groups'. Does it imply that they would be supervised after the release, perhaps by parole officers? I have never met a parole officer in my 70 years of existence. Does it perhaps imply that the prison staff can only release a number they can control? They dont control sodomy, drug trafficking or assaults (murders) in prison. So please tell me, what is meant by 'controllable groups'?

      dracolusus - 2012-06-12 09:58

      That is just the few they have caught, I rate the number is probably in the hundreds, if not thousands.

      ettiene.j.marx - 2012-06-12 13:03

      @eric.goosen.you watch too much tv.The dcs have monitoring staff that doo visit parolees almost every day. Amnesty does not work.It is putting crime on the streets.The offenders are already only doing half of their sentences before being given parole,why give them more time of??

      ettiene.j.marx - 2012-06-12 13:07

      @eric O and controled means not all in one day.But spread out over I think it was three or weeeks the dcs gave too release them.And dont blame the dcs.It was not their desicion

  • zile.sotyantya - 2012-06-12 08:30

    It's clear those people belong in jail,it is their.....once a pig always a pig...

  • robertmroba.mahlagaume - 2012-06-12 08:30

    Some of stupid decisions by stupid Gorvement as i said before.

      Wally Walters - 2012-06-12 08:47

      name one thing this gov has ever done right for this country just one and I wil vote for them

      Anthony - 2012-06-12 09:25

      @Eugene Walters: Water sanitation for millions. I can't stand the ANC either, but you have to give credit where credit is due, else you're just bitter.

      Revelgen - 2012-06-12 09:32

      True, the ANC have supplied water sanitation for millions, also elctricty and housing. BUT THAT'S THEIR JOB! The real question is: how much MORE water, electricity, housing etc could have been done if a decent government was in power, not a highly inefficient one that steals billions?? Three times more? Four times?

      Anthony - 2012-06-12 15:57

      @Revelgen: I agree completely, they can, and should, do more. But to dislike my statement (which, whether you like it or not) is a fact just goes to show how skewed and biased 57 people of you who disliked my post are. Is your hatred of the ANC stopping you from seeing any positive work they do (however insufficient it may be)? It certainly looks like. Seems you all want to hear what you want. I guess news24 users subscribe to the famous George W. Bush quote: "You're either with us, or against us". So much for sincere debate huh? Eugene's statement clearly said if I could name one thing the government has done right, not one thing they haven't done right for long enough. @Eugene, I expect you'll be voting for the ANC as promised?

  • clifford.sithole.5 - 2012-06-12 08:30

    Well done useless anc

  • Martin - 2012-06-12 08:31

    its free food and accomodation.Why would they not want to be in jail.

      jason.marriott.75 - 2012-06-12 08:55

      really have you spend time in prison; I doubt its all you make it out to be!

      Martin - 2012-06-12 09:00

      Have you spent time on the streets without a home in winter?prison is far beter.what have they got to loose by commiting more crime.A bed and a meal.these people are loosers in the first place.

      dracolusus - 2012-06-12 11:12

      I'll take no food and cold streets to prison rape and HIV any day. I can't speak for you tho Martin, maybe that is your thing.

      jason.marriott.75 - 2012-06-12 12:24

      u people are a hoot... go to jail for food and a bed... this is South Africa not bloody Austria

      ettiene.j.marx - 2012-06-12 13:14

      Its not only food and accomodation,dont forget about the hd flat screen tv,pool tables,free medical aid where you dont have to wait in line.The dcs even have a mr video contract for the inmates

  • Azande - 2012-06-12 08:31

    Mr. Journo, can you tell us why?????This is poor reporting. So we have to speculate on why they are back in jail. Ok, they are propably suffering outside as they now have to feed themselves and voluntarily wanted to go back.

      pgmdesouza - 2012-06-12 08:44

      My thoughts exactly. After some time in prison i bet they forgot how to go about fending for themselves.

      Denise - 2012-06-12 09:08

      Also no confirmation of how many have been released to date and what percentage this 43 is! if they have released 10 000 and only 43 have ended up back in jail then that is one thing - if they have only released 100 then it is a whole different story. How about some facts News24. Either way - well done on another great decision Zuma! Not!

  • Andre - 2012-06-12 08:37

    The BEST joke of the DAY

  • Carla - 2012-06-12 08:38

    What a surprise

  • Ganon - 2012-06-12 08:39

    Tail you loose, head they win!!!!

      Woofie - 2012-06-12 16:42

      @Ganon - Tail you LOSE, not LOOSE!

  • Cobus - 2012-06-12 08:40

    I hate to say I told you so JZ - but I told you so!!!

      Wally Walters - 2012-06-12 08:43

      Ones criminal always a criminal

  • Cassandra Eileen Olivier - 2012-06-12 08:44

    I knew this would happen a leopard never changes its spots

  • natasha.dhanaraj.5 - 2012-06-12 08:45

    I agree this is poor reporting...however I am a bit hestitant to even ask what horrendous crime was committed to make them land back into prison. Which innocent person had the unfortunate luck or badluck, to be victimised by these babarians.

  • Mark - 2012-06-12 08:48

    Wake up South Africa, a classic trick of communist/socialist dictatorships is to create a crisis and then provide a solution to it in order to get their way. The ANC hopes to pound the judiciary and police in their current form to dust, turn the public against these institutions and then radicalise them. The police will become more militaristic and the judiciary less independent on the pretext that these reforms are needed to bring the crime wave under control. If you need any more evidence of this tendency, then look no further than how the ANC is trying to gain support to change the constitution by creating this discourse of how it has 'failed the majority'. Watch out, these socialist dogs will stop at nothing until we are all living in a giant gulag, under the dictatorship of the ANC.

  • Herman - 2012-06-12 08:49

    Another huge success from our criminal and utterly worthless president and the anc......

      Helmut - 2012-06-12 09:00

      What you expect from peanuthead

  • Vic - 2012-06-12 08:51

    Another stuff-up by Zuma.Probably a lot more back before long.

  • jason.marriott.75 - 2012-06-12 08:51

    43 of 35000 is hardly calls for concern 0.12%... suppose depends on why they back in jail... petty crime or serious ones, need more information before making a judgement

      bradktm - 2012-06-12 09:07

      43 out of 35 000 that we know of or have been apprehended.

      Christian J Denyschen - 2012-06-12 09:13

      I bet you if one of those released prisoners robed, hijacked or even raped a family member of you, you would've been singing a different tune.

      Denise - 2012-06-12 09:38

      @Jason - they were releasing them in 'controlled groups' since mid May so all 35000 have probably not been released yet - would really like to know how many have been in order to get a proper picture please News 24!

      Keith - 2012-06-12 09:54

      I think thise 43 who is back come from a very poor background and will be hard to find employment so they prefer inside as they secure with food and free medical.make sense

      kennyhubbard - 2012-06-12 10:13

      Tend to agree jason, this is statistically insignificant and not sure why it is news. A far bigger threat is the release of serious crime suspects on bail because the courst cannot deal with them timeously. One would hope that the money saved by not having to house 35 000 prisoners could be used to beef up the court system.....but i fear that someone has to pay for the ANC to eat biltong instead of cake at their meetings!!

      jason.marriott.75 - 2012-06-12 12:30

      South Africans like a good moan... not saying I agree with the prisoners been released just that this article states 43 out of 35000 have ended up back in jail.. I'm sure a massive portion of the people commenting here have paid a bribe to get out of trouble or had a few drinks and still drove far more than 0.12% of you... As I said you guys like a good moan

  • Simphiwe - 2012-06-12 08:51

    Unfortunately, prisons are not designed to transform one's character for the better. They make things worse. There are no programmes in place to help prisoners transform. They are treated like animals

      Emily-Jane Elson - 2012-06-12 09:28

      Against people being treated badly BUT what did they do to land up there in the first place? Raped? Murdered? Assaulted? Armed Robbery? Think he thought bout his targets feelings when he did what he did? Please. What you seem to forget is that we ALWAYS have a choice to make the right decision, period. Stop making excuses for them. They get treated better than people in old age homes who PAY for services!! Makes me sick!! Don't feel sorry for them, they know the repercussions..

      christof.coetzee - 2012-06-12 10:00

      SA Jails are heaven compared to jails in Brazil, Mexico and elsewhere - along with our poor justice system, prison guard who help convicts escape etc. etc. - I don't think criminals have enough fear of anything, SA's crime rate is a good reflection of this.

  • Marnus - 2012-06-12 08:52

    It shows that Correctional Services Dept is disfunctional, i,e, incompetent! So, what's new? it's the same incompetence all over every walk of live, but for one exeption... taxation! This is where the new masters excell and outdone themselves!

  • Koos - 2012-06-12 08:57

    Someone please tell me why these criminals don’t work to pay off their debt to society? Why not use these inmates to make bricks, clean towns , build houses, build schools, build dams and so on. Why handle them as if they are modal citizens, feed them and provide a roof over their heads at the expense of the tax payer while there are so many law abiding citizens poor and in worse situations but they do NOT resort to crime. It seems these criminals has more rights than everyday Joe.

  • Ron - 2012-06-12 08:59

    Surprise,surprise........NOT

  • josie.russell.10 - 2012-06-12 09:00

    duh!

  • philschalkwyk - 2012-06-12 09:02

    It's winter! Prison has warmth, food, medical, TV!

  • JAbu.R15 - 2012-06-12 09:02

    HAi the reporting here aimt good at all! do we have to fill in hte gaps everytime we read a story. they are back in jail for what, if it's 43 how many were released in total? today is June 11 and we still get a could be released in May 14? I am no journalist but I would get the facts straight before I publish anything.

  • hudayfah.newman - 2012-06-12 09:03

    Ofcourse in a country riddled with crime the obvious thing to do is to release the captured criminals right mr. Zuma? What a douche you are man. Endangering the lives of the innocent and hardworking. No wonder we hear about shooutouts,rapes, atm bombings and murders day in and day out. You are an epic fail of a president. Can't even provide safety and basic needs for those who voted you into power. Instead you are fighting to stay there to support your lavish lifestyle. If you have a heart then the least you could do is stepdown because you dont know what the hell you are doing.

  • nigel.burgess.52 - 2012-06-12 09:03

    This is not the first time. The same thing happens with all these 'presidential pardons'. So next question - why do they keep making the same stupid mistake over and over again?

  • Marthinus - 2012-06-12 09:03

    Well done JZ, your a legend, adding to the crime stats!!!You and your ANC comrades are about as effective at running the country as Hendrik Verwoerd was at racial relations-Stupid idiots!

  • bradktm - 2012-06-12 09:03

    ......and who is surprised by this?? The more thieving and pilfering the government can encourage, the more cash they earn on the 14% vat on all replacement items stolen. Great business initiative Zooma, keep the masses unemployed so they can't see through your BS.

  • Rob - 2012-06-12 09:06

    The answer to unemployment.....Build a further 2,000 jails over the next few years !

  • tiisetso.l.mokoena - 2012-06-12 09:08

    Can't say I'm surprised! What a waste of time and administrative resources!#Lesson learnt JZ

  • David - 2012-06-12 09:10

    SHocking journalism! WHY are they back??

  • Gavin - 2012-06-12 09:11

    Zuma has the opposite of the midas touch - everything he touches, turns into sh_t.

  • Bomb - 2012-06-12 09:14

    Jip, most of them will realize in due time that there is no work outside. No work = no food/no bed/no clothes/no roof/no blanket/no bed/no tv/no gym/no education. All of the things that they get for free in jail. So make your own conclusions.

  • Johan - 2012-06-12 09:16

    They were released because Zuma needs their votes in the next elections. ( they need the criminal vote to keep the criminal in control). Most of them will be back behind bars by then.

      gerhard.muller.988 - 2012-06-12 09:34

      But the scary thing is that all prisoners already have the right to vote. So whether they are in jail or not, it makes no difference.

      Fanie - 2012-06-12 10:32

      He needs their friendship and support when he joins them in jail!!

  • duma.nkabinde - 2012-06-12 09:17

    So 43 out of 35 000 are back in jail, and this is news?? News 24 you can do better than this to discredit JZ's administration, try bringing up corruption charges maybe another Spear try something.

      Shadipity - 2012-06-12 11:41

      The fact that crime has raised by up to 25% in areas where the controlled groups have been release is surely an indication that JZ's administration deserves discrediting!

  • zane.blignaut - 2012-06-12 09:18

    43 of 35000 released = 0.12% not even worth the time explaining... useless article

      Deon Du Plessis - 2012-06-12 09:25

      @zane. Yip, this is the type of journalism which leaves much to be desired....... 0.12%??? Come on News24, you run out of articles to wright about?

      Khumo Mashifane - 2012-06-12 09:35

      Spot on Zane ;-)

      christof.coetzee - 2012-06-12 10:03

      Not all 35000 have been release yet, lets wait and see how your 0.12% escalates - even if just 1 of 35000 committed a crime its still not acceptable by any measure!

      zane.blignaut - 2012-06-12 11:15

      So what you are saying is,34 957 of 35 000 released have started becoming responsible citizens of South Africa

  • dominique.bowker - 2012-06-12 09:21

    This was done for the benifit of a cirtain few. Please not white coller crime is a serious offence.

  • kwezi.figlan - 2012-06-12 09:22

    Poor journalism at its best...leaves u with many questions on the story. I'm sure I can write a better story than this.

  • xozamandi - 2012-06-12 09:24

    basically it's one of these reasons, there in prison they earn respect, they have a sense of belonging coz they are in prison gangs and ranks, so things outside of prison they have no sense or meaning, they have a bed, and a meal, these things they don't get if they are outside of jail, one said the other day if he got arrested, for him, he's like being sent home...

  • Ditoa-re - 2012-06-12 09:27

    By the time the 35000th person is released, the 1st 30000 will be back inside

  • Rishaal - 2012-06-12 09:28

    'the definition of insanity' aka our justice system

  • Ryno - 2012-06-12 09:28

    well - is this not what happened last time they also released some prisoners? don't they learn out of their mistakes? oh wait, they do not make mistakes, it is apartheid's fault ;)

  • phosa.peter2 - 2012-06-12 09:28

    Brought to the comunity again without income or something to face/start the challenges of unemployment is not easy,you 'll encount 'descrimination,badmouthing,untrustworthy from the your own comunity nd that may let you feel 'the better place is where your are coming from(jail).

      Emily-Jane Elson - 2012-06-12 09:35

      I'm sure it's hard but what do you expect?? Once you've broken people's trust it's very hard to trust you again. Nobody but themselves to blame for their own faults..

  • Rick - 2012-06-12 09:37

    For many prisoners being inside a prison is a higher standard of living than life outside prison. Going to prison is not a deterrent if you have no home, no food, no bed and/or blanket in winter. It is like owning Timeshare.

  • Genesistt - 2012-06-12 09:37

    This report really doesn't give me any kind of detail. It's like they chose a flashy headline to grab attention and then wrote a different story.

      prince.mashao - 2012-06-12 09:45

      My point xctly chief..i followed ds link wit gr8 enthusiasm..n nw i cn hardly smile2 news24

  • ozzie.oz1 - 2012-06-12 09:40

    Obviously the powers that be screwed up on the specific categories.......Can you imagine what South Africa is going to be like with 35 000 of these degenerates back on our streets!

  • Hugo - 2012-06-12 09:40

    At least they didn t make it to parlament! (Not yet)

  • mnbain - 2012-06-12 09:44

    It is hard for unskilled people to find work, you had a criminal record and it would be almost impossible. The "survival" skills learned in Prison are only likely to lead to a life of crime. Without proper plans in place to rehabilitate and employ ex-cons - they probably have little other choice.

  • kmaruma - 2012-06-12 09:50

    These buggers never learn