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Anti-toll protest declared illegal

2012-03-29 09:17

Johannesburg - The planned Freedom Front Plus protest over e-tolling on the N1 highway was declared illegal on Thursday because the group had not applied for permission.

"The police and metro police have declared this gathering illegal and they have said we must actually go through their channels in future," Freedom Front Plus spokesperson Anton Alberts said.

"Our position is that this is not an illegal gathering. It's a spontaneous gathering of people who are against the tolling system, and we were just going to drive behind each other on the roads with normal cars around Johannesburg," he said.

A camel, caravaners, motorcyclists and other vehicles had converged in the rain at the Ultra City on the highway for the protest, during rush hour.

Johann van der Merwe, also known as "Mal Jan", from Jacaranda 94.2's breakfast show, had arrived at the petrol station dressed in Saudi Arabian attire, riding the camel.

The protest was organised by the Freedom Front Plus, National Taxpayers' Union, SA Caravan Association and various motorbike clubs.

Argument

Alberts said the protest would not go ahead as planned and people would start to disperse so they could get to work.

An argument broke out between Alberts and the police over the protest.

"We have a different interpretation of the law," said Alberts.

"We are very unhappy about this because the over-regulation in this country is getting to a point where people's institutional rights, as far as we concerned, are being violated," said Alberts.

"Government is talking about the information act that will inhibit the flow of information, and now suddenly a spontaneous gathering of people against a system that they find oppressive, like the tolling system, is now also being dispersed by police."

Alberts said the group had considered going ahead with the protest and risk getting arrested.

"I don't think they would have arrested us because they were quite scared about that, but we decided not to make too much trouble with the law."

He said they would attempt another protest sometime in the future.

Tolling of major roads around Johannesburg was expected to start on April 30.

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Comments
  • Marion - 2012-03-29 09:27

    I support the protest, but how can you call it spontaneous when it is planned a few days ahead?

      kgomotso.radise - 2012-03-29 10:29

      This is contrary protest is declared illegal while the same cannot be said about e-toll.

      Bambanani - 2012-03-29 13:38

      this is not fair,ff should also be given space to march,they never thought in their lifetime that they will one day ask to march.they are used to see some ather people marching through windows with their cameras ,now is the time to see ff marching.

  • Cassandra Olivier - 2012-03-29 09:28

    I was listing to the radio in bed sick when maljan and his camel joined the protest

      Clifford - 2012-03-29 10:04

      Shame whats wrong.

      jowza1 - 2012-03-29 11:29

      hope its not camel flu.get well soon

  • AB.VILJOEN - 2012-03-29 09:30

    These guys can not organize a party in a brewery! Great pity!!

      Warmonger - 2012-03-29 10:42

      [Unfortunately] Too true... And we DEFINATELY do not need another 'white' party, we need a couple more Abel Malan's!!! VF(ail)-

      Stephen - 2012-03-29 11:28

      @Warmonger, there are no "white" parties in SA,

      Warmonger - 2012-03-29 11:49

      *Yawn* ... another party professing to represent the 'white minority'...

      Patsy - 2012-03-29 13:29

      On a par with our present government?

  • Hallo - 2012-03-29 09:33

    FF+ fail. Embarrassment. Disclaimer: The FF+ do not represent white people.

      Davin - 2012-03-29 09:37

      nor does the DA, ANC, PAC, IFP, etc...

      Michael - 2012-03-29 10:29

      Who said they did?

  • James - 2012-03-29 09:34

    Are malemas protests legal everytime he has a bee up his anus???

      Koos - 2012-03-29 11:14

      Poor BEE.

      James - 2012-03-29 11:39

      i also forgot the sap march along the n1 .Was that stopped and declared illegal??? *********STOP GAUTENG TOLLING************

  • Sika - 2012-03-29 09:38

    Leave the protests to people who know....I am sure you know who I am referring to

      Oom - 2012-03-29 10:17

      You mean the burn-loot-destroy crowd, seems like it's the only group the government pays any attention to

      Hettie - 2012-03-29 10:20

      SORRY GUYS THIS IS JUST NOT SOMETHING THAT WE ARE USED TO DO NEXT TIME GET SOME HELP AND ANOTHER THING COSATU DID NOT WANT ANYBODY ELSE THERE THEY WANTED TO DO IT ALONE SO THAT THEY CAN TALK TO GOV ALONE

  • herbst.callie - 2012-03-29 09:39

    Ek was daar. Ek het nie eens die kameel gesien nie. Ook nie die argument nie. Waar was die VF ? Pateties georganiseer ! Dit is die kort en die lank daarvan. En boonop wou die VF hulle nie by Cosatu en die ander skaar toe hulle protes plaasgevind het nie maar wou eerder hulle eie reel ! Elkeen in sy eie kasteel - jammer die VF se kasteel was toe net n pondokkie.

      Marion - 2012-03-29 09:48

      Goed gese herbst.callie.

      Warmonger - 2012-03-29 10:34

      Dit is eintlik n bietjie belaglik. Ons is ons eie ergste vyand. Mense doen moeite om die optog by te woon (die paar wat kon wegkom van werk, ens) en die vf- sĂȘ net "we can like decided not to can make too much trable with da law." Pateties. Dink enige iemand blanke opinie dra ENIGE gewig? Pretoria se naam sal nog verander word, want blankes is nog te "slapg@t" om op te staan vir dit waarin ons [moet?] glo... VF- = Klomp belaglike Narre.

  • Duncan Thabiso Mphailane - 2012-03-29 09:40

    Does this fool know the meaning of spontaneous? SMH

  • tanibumcheekz - 2012-03-29 09:44

    Should have just all gone ahead with it. The police would not have known who was in the protest and who was just caught up in traffic! How come it is not illegal and the police do nothing to break up service protest marches, burning of schools, vehicles, buildings etc, but when it appears that the 'minority' folk want to protest they are stopped for failing to get permission?! If the Gov lowered the price of petrol by R5 then maybe people would pay the toll!!!!! They should have one or the other, but not both!

      Marion - 2012-03-29 09:49

      Good point in your first sentence.

  • tanibumcheekz - 2012-03-29 09:44

    Should have just all gone ahead with it. The police would not have known who was in the protest and who was just caught up in traffic! How come it is not illegal and the police do nothing to break up service protest marches, burning of schools, vehicles, buildings etc, but when it appears that the 'minority' folk want to protest they are stopped for failing to get permission?! If the Gov lowered the price of petrol by R5 then maybe people would pay the toll!!!!! They should have one or the other, but not both!

  • stalin.rudolf - 2012-03-29 09:50

    illegal gatherings act, i think 1966 but i stand to be corrected. when the NP used the act to oppress and deny people to organise and protest with one voice. its strange that most of the laws that were being labelled oppressive by the so-called freedom fighters are still in force today (2012. if you think differently just do a bit of research. f..k nothing ever changed just the colour of the presidents. and for the stupid cops who halted the protest, they must just remember that they have vehicles and relatives who use that road. if they possess a bit of intelligence they would have booked off sick, taken leave due, and let the Minister of Transport, Sanral, Zuma and his cronies stop the march.

      Zimbobwe - 2012-03-29 10:20

      @stalin.rudolf no they laws of 1966 are not in force today. In 1966 black people were not allowed to apply or seek permission for any gatherings let alone speak to the authorities about this. You are allowed to do it now and if you follow the right channels you'll be given the go ahead to march or protest. No one is oppressed here just follow the right channels like a law abiding citizen.

  • stalin.rudolf - 2012-03-29 09:54

    and the tolling of roads is illegal" finish an klaar! or the toll fees just went up on the 23 March 2012 in KZN another R2 more.

  • Lauden Kirk - 2012-03-29 09:59

    We are like farm animals.

      Felix - 2012-03-29 12:18

      More like the fodder to feed the farm animals.

  • petbosh - 2012-03-29 10:02

    It actual came as a suprise to me that this 'no names' are organising a protest, they were deemed to fail from the word GO. My advice to this micky mouses is ' leave the protest to the pros'

      crazyjourno - 2012-03-29 10:37

      The Pro's... And, who might they be?

  • Lauden Kirk - 2012-03-29 10:03

    What really amazes me is how shallow minded we are and how there is no individual thinking. The brainless ruling the brainless.

  • Warwick - 2012-03-29 10:05

    It's just Government being heavy handed, thats all. Increase the pressure and the system will fall. Those cops will also be nailed in their private vehicles, they are not for tolling either so will not 'police' the tolled roads with gusto as sanral wishes. Ali, you're such a chop. To hell with the tolls.

  • Carry - 2012-03-29 10:07

    The ff should have joined cosatu in their protest march - regardless of the inclusion of the fight against the labour brokers. We need to stand together in the fight against the tolls. At least they tried to do something, unlike most of our armchair commentators. I hope we allcan stand together by not buying the e-tag.

  • mnbain - 2012-03-29 10:17

    I believe that law needs to be challenged in the constitutional court. To ask the government you are protesting against for the right to protest is counter intuitive!

  • FabulousFranci - 2012-03-29 10:21

    what should be declared illegal, is them wanting to ripp us off with those damn tollgates!

  • FabulousFranci - 2012-03-29 10:21

    what should be declared illegal, is them wanting to ripp us off with those damn tollgates!

  • Final.Punishment - 2012-03-29 10:27

    it might be illegal, but the people still have a say. Does this government want a riot like Egypt or Greece. Those protests were not so called 'legal', it was the people getting frustrated because the government running the country just don't give a s**t about anything but their own pockets.

  • Carry - 2012-03-29 10:34

    What is the latest news form vavi ...... has he indeed sold out to the anc ?

  • Andre - 2012-03-29 10:48

    I have to disagree. I fully support the launch end of April. Now before you all swear at me there is a way to make this action legal as they going to ignore us and block all protests. See we have this brilliant new consumer act. Thus within 7 days of the opening we simply tell them to take the new toll system and shove it with refund. I mean if you now buy a dvd player and it dont work you have to get refund. If I look at the conditions of the "NEW" roads especially at William Nichole and Comarro off ramps, where the one arrow tells you to turn 90 degrees on the freeway, then clearly this project is a reject and not what a person would expect to pay for. I mean a new road that's been tarred less than a year ago and the tar is running so bad that the white lines are less than 1,5m appart. This is a typical SA topdog underhanded second rated service delivery where we have to fork out for their new cars and planes and we get handed a plastic medallion for our effort

  • Alf - 2012-03-29 10:50

    This is just the government and its corrupt police demonstrating who calls the shots in our SA Kleptocracy! This is only the beginning. Wait until they start "reviewing" the courts and "amending" the constituion!

  • Johnathon - 2012-03-29 10:57

    The DA challenged the Toll System in court and won. I always thought the Law related to precedence, and that any recent legal ruling could be upheld by another court. What is going on with the rule of Law in this country. Are all Government decisions now independent of the Laws of the land. Reluctantly I have to concede that the Freedom Front did stuff up. They should not have started the protest until formal permission was granted by the police. COSATU would admittedly have gone ahead, but the difference is that they would have had thousands of chanting warriors behind them. Anything without numbers in this country will fail. If SANRAL convinces enough people to fall for the e-tag scam, then the tolling system will also go ahead. My observation are that the white population are generally a fairly apathetic lot, and do not stick together to ensure their rights are not trampled on.( the whole toll situation was based on the fact that the whitie would back down, if the Goverment threatened enough ) It is time for us to lose our apathy, and fight this miserable Government every time they try to restrict our rights. I hoped this toll issue would really unite the whole country in a Mass Civil Disobedience Campaign, to collapse the whole exploitative toll scheme. Only time will tell whether those that complain so often, and so loudly, will actually "walk the talk".

  • Willem - 2012-03-29 11:01

    Mense mense.Daar is 'n baie maklike uitweg.Taxis en busse gaan verniet deur, so die oplossing is dus.Koop 'n taxi en voila.Probleem opgelos.Almal van osn gebruik die paaie en hoef dan nie 'n sent tolgeld te betaal nie.Dink net.As 100 000 mense taxis koop dan gaan SANRAL nie geld terug kry nie en dan gaan hulle in elk geval die etoll storie afskaf.

  • tshekiso.saul - 2012-03-29 11:02

    Advise for future strikes. Lobby for blacks to be more involved. And let them lead proceedings, u will c. Like in many major roads been blockaded.

  • komorison - 2012-03-29 11:08

    Soon freedom of speech, to protest peacefully etc will be a thing of the past. End up like the USA.

  • Loo - 2012-03-29 11:21

    E-toll will go ahead. lets look at the facts. Govt invested 17 billion from pension fund in E-toll. Govt spent billions already on E-toll. They can not afford to not let it go ahead, simple as that. PROBLEM once again. taking first world concepts to third world countries to generate revenue for a mismanaged government. When ,, WHEN ,, will this stop ?? Never, they need the money. We borrow 30% of GDP, economy grows at 2%. Middle class already taxed up to 60% and above taking all the factors in consideration. Friends ,, simple fact is :: the ANC "governed" this country into a corner with no way out financially. Making it even worse is keeping the uneducated masses happy, knowing they are the ones that keep em there regardless of race.

      valcooperRSA - 2012-03-29 14:53

      Did the government ask the Government Employees for permission to make use of their Pension Fund to invest in SANRAL.........I think not.....Now isn't that illegal.....???????

  • Bongani - 2012-03-29 11:41

    The protest was declared illegal, because only 20 people turned up. FF+ should just join Green Party.

  • flysouth - 2012-03-29 11:57

    Unless large numbers support such actions, it is impossible to fight the ANC's militia (aka SAPS), and it is a fact that whites generally do not or cannot support such protests with 'boots on the ground'. So the answer to the entire problem remains as I have stated for many months in this and many other forums - long before even COSATU did - simply DO NOT buy an e-tag! Collapsing the entire financial model of the scheme is surely the way to go. And it requires no confrontations with police, loss of working hours etc. When SANRAL finds that it is costing thousands of percent more than estimated in their business plan to simply collect the money for tolls, this will throw the entire scheme into jeopardy. If this continues for a while, then it has the potential to utterly destroy the entire plan! It is money that makes this entire SANRAL and ANC world go around - let us collaborate to cut the money flow. I am quite prepared to pay the higher toll tariff as a result of not having an e-tag. They can send me an invoice. Also I have read that if SANRAL has to summons only 1000 motorists to court each week for unpaid tolls, this small number of cases will cause the Gauteng court system to grind to a halt. I had believed that thE number required to cause chaos in the judicial system would be much larger - not so, according to those who know! Such court chaos will have the judiciary putting pressure on government to do something urgently to avoid such chaos.

      Zing - 2012-03-29 13:01

      "I am quite prepared to pay the higher toll tariff as a result of not having an e-tag. They can send me an invoice. " Don't pay when you get the invoice. Pay when you get a summons a few weeks or a few months later. It costs them about R100 to deliver a summons, and then you only have to pay what you owe. Don't go to court, just pay it before the court date. That's how you break them.

  • Zing - 2012-03-29 12:02

    Clearly we don't do this sort of thing often enough. Maybe we should go and learn from Cosatu?

  • Patsy - 2012-03-29 13:27

    Was Cosatu's march permissible - or also 'spontaneous'???

  • SarelJBotha - 2012-03-29 17:27

    Illegal perhaps but UNLAWFUL, forsure not.

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