Bees Roux avoids jail in plea deal

2011-09-09 17:00

Pretoria - Blue Bulls rugby player Bees Roux pleaded guilty to a charge of culpable homicide on Friday, and will pay R750 000 to the victim's family. His five-year sentence was wholly suspended.

Roux had been charged with murder after allegedly beating Metro police officer Sergeant Ntshimane Johannes Mogale, 38, to death in August last year.

The incident took place after Mogale apparently pulled Roux over for allegedly driving under the influence of alcohol.

Roux said in an affidavit placed before court during his bail application he had assaulted Mogale while defending himself against theft and attempted robbery by Mogale and would plead not guilty to a murder charge.

Earlier, Judge Nomonde Mngqibisa-Thusi stood the case down until 14:00 by consent between the State and defence, saying negotiations were "in the final stages".

None of the parties had been willing to confirm that their negotiations included a possible plea bargain agreement.

  • Daemos1 - 2011-09-09 17:03

    Glad this is over

      Stotsi - 2011-09-09 17:07

      Is it over ???

      James Weather - 2011-09-09 17:10

      hectic ....

      msendi - 2011-09-09 17:13

      Would you be glad if the deceased is a white farmer? I am not a racist, I am just asking…

      Chris - 2011-09-09 17:19

      Msendi, if the deceased was a white farmer that was trying to rob someone, then yes, i sure would.

      myancmyfutur - 2011-09-09 17:20

      Maybe this should be a standard sentence/fine for all murders

      Daemos1 - 2011-09-09 17:23

      I'm glad this is over, because this was a very bad situation for many reasons, clear misconduct on the side of the police, alcohol abuse, bribery, white-on-black-on-white violence. I still haven't made up my mind about what happened, but I 'm glad the judge did. @msendi, you don't seem to know what you're talking about, have another drink sies

      myancmyfutur - 2011-09-09 17:30

      @ Chris and Daemon, you all need to know that the defense theories that everyone is putting based on Bees side of the story is exactly how we as ANC or blacks usually adopt when one of our own is also in the dock. Am looking forward to engaging with you on further discussion on this blog

      msendi - 2011-09-09 17:37

      @Daemos1… I am sorry, I don't drink… I don't know what you mean by 'sies' and I don't care… The story is about a person who was killed and you are glad it is over. If what is written in my bible is true. I don't think it is over yet… Roux is a murderer, he is not different to those who kill farmers…

      Warslat - 2011-09-09 17:37

      Can't believe I actually agree with myancmyfutur. If he was innocent then no money should be paid, if he was guilty then a payoff in lieu of punishment isn't justice.

      Chris - 2011-09-09 17:48

      Warslat, try reading the article again, and again if it helps :)here is a clue... he is not innocent, but not guilty of murder....happy hunting..

      Logoll - 2011-09-09 18:00

      It's wonderful how the rich have a completely different law system than the average man in the street. And for the record just because he is not in jail does not make him innocent, in fact he is self admittedly guilty of killing someone. I honestly hope that SARFU bans him from ever playing rugby again.

      Logoll - 2011-09-09 18:13

      @chris: the definition of culpable homicide as set out under South African law. Culpable Homicide: the unlawful negligent killing of a human being. The only difference between murder and culpable homicide is the intent. Did Bees Roux go out with the intent to kill this man ? No, so therefor it is culpable homicide. Did he still kill a person ? Yes, was it justifiable ? No, otherwise the plead would have been to a lesser crime something what is called justifiable homicide in America, this is when it is in self defense or a similar situation.

      Met - 2011-09-09 18:13

      And the poor sod who is unable to pay?

      moiraine - 2011-09-09 18:45

      After the chief of police incited the police to hound him do you think the state would have gone for a plea deal if they thought that they were going to get a conviction. I think they were scared of what would come out in court if there was a trial. Remember they had to be threatened by the magistrate before they produced the documents the defense had asked for. There was obviously so many holes in the case that they didnt want to go ahead.

  • MartinFord - 2011-09-09 17:05

    It's a pity that the details of what actually happened won't come out.

      betweenu&me - 2011-09-09 17:53


      burtfred - 2011-09-09 17:56

      I'm certain the Pretoria, (Tshwane, whatever), police do not want this case to be exposed to the harsh light of cross examination.

      Met - 2011-09-09 18:18

      There were very strong indications of corruption here, but it would seem,that with a questionable justice system to face, the alleged killer had no option. Extraction by law, or pay up or else?

      NS082 - 2011-09-09 18:23

      That is exactly the problem. @msendi calls him a murderer, I guess he may be seen as that from many? Bees says he was defending himself. The family of the deceased gets R750K, does this settle anything?

      Warren - 2011-09-09 19:43

      Htf does a white man in S.A. dodge jail for the drunken murder of a black man in the year 2011????????????? There is definitely more to this story, I'll bet my whole years salary on it! (Ah crap, it's weekend. My comment is going to get deleted by the News 24 TWAT on weekend duty... again.)

  • DeonL - 2011-09-09 17:06

    Not bad for all concerned.

      Janine - 2011-09-09 17:27

      Except for the poor guy who is dead.

      newsyman - 2011-09-09 17:34

      and the family who lost someone? Oh wait, they got some money, that more than makes up for a life, you're right. Idiot!

      oukoos - 2011-09-09 17:47

      @Janine Because he tried to rob an innocent citizen

      Cynical CJ - 2011-09-09 18:03

      who cares if he's dead. "IF" he tried to rob him, then he deserved justice. In South Africa today i reckon justice should be killing whoever harmed you. This going to jail for 6 months for murder and 2 years for not paying your license is pathetic, oh wait, he's white, so he will actually go to jail for more than 5-10 years for murder. Especially if it a black judge doing the sentencing.

      Janine - 2011-09-09 18:14

      @oukoos - you were there, were you? The real truth of what happened never came out - only one person alive to tell the tale.

  • geelpiesangman - 2011-09-09 17:06

    mmmmm Famous, with buckets of cash. but to easy I think.

  • safather - 2011-09-09 17:06

    I don't get it, it looks like it was not murder, ('cause he only got 5 years). So I am guessing that it was an attempted robbery and manslaughter, (excessive force would then explain the 5 years). But why pay the family R750K?

      tiotudg - 2011-09-09 17:27

      Wat is R750 000 in vandag se lewe om 'n broodwinner te vervang. Sies

      Janine - 2011-09-09 17:28

      It's called restorative justice - his family have lost his future income and he may have been the breadwinner.

      ChrisW - 2011-09-09 17:44

      To satisfy the toyi toting masses who were outside the court room. Remember all the Comrades abandoned their work stations to make sure he paid a price.

      BTRX - 2011-09-09 17:55

      Ek wonder hoeveel die families sal kry in al die plaasmoorde, maar wag, daardie mense word mos nie gevang nie.

  • Adams - 2011-09-09 17:07

    Wow! I wonder if the truth about that night will ever come out? I doubt it.

      PinkAndProud - 2011-09-09 18:03

      The truth sure won't come out from the police's side because they'll be exposed, yet again, for how corrupt they are.

  • FranklySpeak - 2011-09-09 17:08

    For murder you pay a few bucks and have a suspended sentence, for drunk driving you get 2 years. They should have gone for drunk driving.

      hughfh - 2011-09-09 18:19

      They would've and could've and should've if the cop didn't decide he would rather rob the guy instead.

  • Civil_Rights - 2011-09-09 17:08

    This is an outrage, what signs is our judicial system sending to murderers and potential murderers out there. R750 000, is that the price of life today?. I am a Bulls fan, but murderers deserve no fans at all.

      Laurie - 2011-09-09 17:23

      Very concerning. If the man was to be found not guilty, then there should be no payments. If the man was at risk of being found guilty then ... wow ... just buy your way out of jail? Scary stuff this!

      myancmyfutur - 2011-09-09 17:26

      If a 110 kg Bees sit on top of the 75kg Mogale and hitting repeatedly whilst unconcious for several minutes till he dies and you call that defending then I wouldn't be surprised if the boys who killed Terreblanch would also plead self defense

      myancmyfutur - 2011-09-09 17:40

      Now what's the insult for? if I have provoked or offended you I apologise so I won't respond to you

  • Trevor - 2011-09-09 17:09

    Great, murder has a price, I see the ANC/ANCYL running wild with this in the future...

      myancmyfutur - 2011-09-09 17:21

      We're definately not going to hold any celebrations on this one

  • Chris - 2011-09-09 17:10

    Why does he need to pay them? dont see all the other murderers in Jail having to pay anybody..

  • Tabile - 2011-09-09 17:11

    Where is he getting the R750 000 from, public protector must not let this one go unchecked?

      Juliaas - 2011-09-09 17:16

      He bribed Malema. Thabile, this is a top sportsman. They get paid with MONEY, not peanuts.

      Chris - 2011-09-09 17:16

      He is probably getting it from being a Professional sportsmen, unlike the tjotsies running around slaying farmers in South Africa, that is where....

      JConaPopsickle - 2011-09-09 17:17

      He probably earned close to a million a year if not more. Very intelligent comment.

      Tabile - 2011-09-09 17:27

      So he is paid a lot of money to kill police officers, and then recomponsate their families to avoid jail. So he is a highly paid Angel with permission to kill for his salary.

      jweer42 - 2011-09-09 17:39

      He worked for it and thus earned it ... he did not demand it as most people do in South Africa these days.

      john - 2011-09-09 17:59

      Tabile, he is paid to play rugby, not to kill people. Although Bakkies Botha and you might be a bit confused about the difference between the two, most of us aren't. :D

  • Really - 2011-09-09 17:12

    It is sad but to be honest, I don't feel anything for the dead cop. This is the result of an incompetant Metro Chief that failed to do his job. This cop should have being suspended when the first case of corruption was registered against him. But no, he let it go on and on. Are his collegues charged yet as he was not alone. In the end corruption does pay, even if you're not there to collect.

      myancmyfutur - 2011-09-09 17:34

      You sound like you know exactly what happened on the night in question besides Bees one sided story.

      Really - 2011-09-09 17:47

      You should understand when you read. The dead thug had corruption cases against him. So, if he was suspended with full pay like all the other ancESTORAL thugs he might still be alive. I don't condone the killing but I would rather see corrupt cops dead than honest cops. The colour of the skin is irrelevant.

      Karoobloed - 2011-09-09 17:48

      You are dead wrong. Corruption and thievery without intent to harm, should never justify murder. I would not judge anyone for taking extreme self defense measures when lives are at risk. Like home invasions or hijackings. However, in this case, it does not seem that the cop was interested in anything beyond Mr. Roux's wallet. It was a massive lack of insight to antagonize a drunk provincial level prop. On the other hand it would be massively immoral if Bees Roux does not forever deeply regret that he ended this man's life for the sake of his wallet and his ego. Restitution is in order - that cop's family lost their breadwinner. I am saddened by this case.

      Really - 2011-09-09 18:03

      When you are on the receiving end a couple times all logic goes out the window. There comes a time when enough is enough and when it happens it is not a nice thing. You can not explain it to someone, they need to experience it to understand the rage at that moment.

      john - 2011-09-09 18:04

      myancmyfutur, it sounds to me like the State didn't have a lot of confidence in its case. Generally, you don't negotiate down to 750k and a suspended sentence when you believe you have a watertight case of murder.

  • myancmyfutur - 2011-09-09 17:14

    At least some are able to buy their way, pitty McBride will serve 5 years for overturning his car and no one died. Chief Justice Mogoeng needs to speed up transformation in the judiciary.

      Neil - 2011-09-09 17:59

      @ myancmyfutur : I only see a remorseful citizen who was defending himself against a corrupt cop. If it was murder then there would not have been talk of only 5 years. A pity that McBride did not win a Darwin award, long over due. Luv to debate you on this one.

      Leica - 2011-09-09 18:04

      Robert McBride killed 3 people and and wounded 69 others From death row to SA police chief Three people died and sixty-nine are injured in a bomb explosion in Magoo's Bar on the Durban beach. An ANC's arm wing, uMkhonto we Sizwe (MK) cell, led by Robert McBride, planted a bomb in a car outside the popular "Why Not Magoo's Bar", with the believe that the place was frequented by security branch police. There was a campaign at that time by MK members to attack police stations and places frequented by police. McBride was caught and convicted, and later granted both a reprieve from death row, and amnesty by the Truth and Reconciliation Commission (TRC). Mr McBride - who was sentenced to death for his part in the bombing of Magoo's Bar in 1984, which killed three people and wounded 69 others - was appointed at the end of October. The move has brought condemnation from the opposition Democratic Alliance, who said they were "shocked and disgusted". But in an interview with BBC World Service's Outlook programme, Mr McBride said that the opposition was primarily the result of party politicking. "The timing of the appointment perhaps was unfortunate, because it's 3-4 months away from an election," he said. "Political parties will create issues which they can then rally their supporters around."

      DW - 2011-09-09 18:25

      myancmyfutur - Robert McBride was arrogant, tried to defeat the ends of justice (which was the major crime, not the drunken driving) and thought he was above the law. Besides, we all know that he will not serve one day. He will appeal, and appeal and appeal (all being paid for with taxpayers money) and someone will find a loophole to let him walk free. I have lost relatives due to someone else's drunken driving. The fact that no-one else was involved was simply luck - and he doesnt think he did anything wrong. Bees was remorseful and struck out in self defense - but underestimated his strength. He has a criminal record and will forever have this on his conscience. McBride has no conscience. THAT is the difference between these 2 cases - but you will support McBride because he is your hero, not because he deserves your support. And you will hate the fact that Bees got away with a heavy fine and suspended sentence because he is white, not because he does not deserve your support. Goes to show who the racist one is, doesnt it?

      myancmyfutur - 2011-09-09 20:24

      @ Neil, Remorse? A man in my village killed his wife and 2 kids(stabbed) and he is now remorseful and am not buying it like iike in this case. we cannot shy away from the fact that the beatings took more than 15 minutes why Mogale was already unconcious and that also drew the attention of a security guard who watched helplessly as Bees finished him off. @Leica I agree with you McBride is being sentenced for the 1984 bombings he had already received amnesty as if he was the only 1 who killed innocent people during that time of war. HE RECEIVED AMNESTY AND WE NEED TO MOVE ON AS A COUNTRY PLEASE. MCBRIDE'S RELEASE WAS ALSO IN EXCHANGE FOR BARREN STRJDOM(You know what he did)I also want de Kock to be released, he should pay R 750 000 to those families

  • Tabile - 2011-09-09 17:15

    It's a sick justice system, if the man was found innocent I would let the matter rest. But he was found guilty of murdering of a police officer, and all our justice system ask for is a lousy R750 000.......

      Really - 2011-09-09 17:21

      Correction: a thug in uniform.

      piet.strydom - 2011-09-09 17:22

      No Tabile, he was NOT found guilty of murdering a police office - don't make up your own facts so you can have a bitch about them.

      Adams - 2011-09-09 17:25

      No he was not found guilty of murder,if you dont know what you are talking about , then keep quiet. The cop tried to rob him,the cop was a criminal, with corruption charges agianst him , he defended himself and the cop/criminal died.Im sorry if you battle with the diference.

      Tabile - 2011-09-09 17:32

      " Blue Bulls rugby player Bees Roux pleaded guilty to a charge of culpable homicide on Friday, and will pay R750 000 to the victim's family. His five-year sentence was wholly suspended."

      Ogre - 2011-09-09 17:35

      Tabile, he PLEADED guilty to manslaughter, which means he caused a wrongful death with no intention. There is no way, with the pressure from the public and family, that the prosecutor would have negotiated a plea if he had a case for murder, specially with all the bystanders present when the incident happened. In this way the prosecutor gets his conviction without all the negative publicity of a possible attempt at robbery by the deceased. Remember that Bees had assaulted Mogale in front of witnesses, so the EVIDENCE supporting the extenuating circumstances must have indicated a criminal act being committed by Mogale.

      jweer42 - 2011-09-09 17:37

      He wasn't found guilty of murder. He was found guilty of culpable homicide (manslaughter) ... big difference!!

      BTRX - 2011-09-09 18:00

      Ja, Tabile soos gewoonlik interperteer julle die ding weer heeltemal verkeerd. Dit is soos wanneer ek vir iemand se hy is sleg want hy kan nie werk nie, dan dink hy ek het hom gevloek (en 'n saak sal gemaak word) Ha, Ha ons het nog baie om te leer

      burtfred - 2011-09-09 18:01

      Tabile, culpable homicide is one type of offence and murder is another type of offence. Shall we draw you a picture? Ar****le

      moiraine - 2011-09-09 18:56

      M.U.R.D.E.R is even spelt differently to culpable homicide Tabile. Murder is intent to kill. IF Bees had gone to the mans home and beat him up for the sake of it then it would have been murder. When somebody lashes out in self defense or anger it is culpable homicide. They are two different things by law with two different sentences. Many people accidentally kill every day and get given suspended sentences or short jail terms. This is not the first or the last time. It is the way the court works. If you do it with intent to kill, that is obviously a different story. Nobody will ever know what happened in this case, so it is really difficult for us to jump on the bandwagon and critisize either side.

  • Nostrilite - 2011-09-09 17:15


  • pam.benink - 2011-09-09 17:17

    So he gets off on murder??? He pays his way out? Eish, where is the justice?

      Ogre - 2011-09-09 17:36

      Ask Shaik, Yengeni, Cele, etc, etc.

      EmptyCan - 2011-09-09 17:42

      there is no justice, thats the sick reality of our justice system.......problem is, it favours the blacks,they praise the system, it favours anyone else,........they question the justice.This should have gone to trial but money talks...............and anyone else should accept it cause this is the way the ANC and their boggom followers work.

  • Really - 2011-09-09 17:17

    Roux het aan Mogale-familie verduidelik dat Mogale hom vir sy bankkaart en pinkode gevra het nadat hy afgetrek. Daarna het hy in die kar geklim en in die rigting van die N4 begin ry terwyl hy vir Bees gedreig het.

  • Dries - 2011-09-09 17:19

    So when I am being attacked and robbed I'll say: "Sorry sir, you are standing where I am about to shoot", and not bliksem him? Crazy, dysfunctional legal system.

      vegetarian - 2011-09-09 17:45

      Dysfunctional indeed, especially where the rich and famous are concerned.

  • Brainbow - 2011-09-09 17:19

    By definition, culpable homicide is an act which has resulted in a person’s death but is held not to amount to murder. Bees Roux admitted to culpable homicide. Murder, by definition, is the unlawful premeditated killing of one human being by another. Bees therefore had no premeditated ill intent. Does this mean he was careless or had an error in judgement, perhaps under duress? The words DEATH and MONEY in the same sentence summount to nothing more than a seed of doubt that can only be obliterated through truth. Our justice system is supposed to be a vehicle of truth, but we are being denied such in this case. Any suggestions on how we can know the truth? Has justice been served in this case? If you are wealthy does it mean that you are theoretically above the law?

      DW - 2011-09-09 18:34

      Somehow Branbow, I dont think Bees got off as lightly as you suggest. He has a criminal record (in his book that is probably a huge thing. In yours it probably makes no difference). Also he is paying almost a years pretax salary to the family to say sorry. That is no small matter, even if you think it is. This is a far better solution than simply sending someone to jail, who was apparently attacked and acted in self defense in any case. More criminals should have to pay victims back out of their own pockets. I dont think this indicates that Bees is above the law at all - unlike people like Shaik, Cele etc

  • Dave - 2011-09-09 17:19

    The prosecutor must be fired. I can believe the guy is getting out of jail.Our justice system is disgusting

      Dave - 2011-09-09 17:20

      OOPS - The prosecutor must be fired. I can't believe the guy is getting out of jail.Our justice system is disgusting

      Ogre - 2011-09-09 17:44

      This is actually a good prosecutor. If he had pursued the murder case he would have lost because of the evidence most probably indicating that Mogale was committing a criminal act (remember the assault took place in front of witnesses)and the family get compensation where they would have gotten nothing with a not guilty verdict. Remember that you cannot be tried again if found not guilty.

      EmptyCan - 2011-09-09 17:45

      Prosecutor probably a BEE/AA/EE appointment....... so dont complain.

      Bulkalf - 2011-09-09 18:28

      Nee Dave ! Ons regstelsel is 100% Dis die idiote wat dit probeer toepas wat disgusting is !

  • abrham - 2011-09-09 17:20

    can R750 000 buy a life

      Really - 2011-09-09 17:26

      R750000 is way too much for a corrupt cops life. He should get a medal.

      EmptyCan - 2011-09-09 17:45

      No, but it cost R12mil to eventually get McBride behind bars. The wheel turns.

      Rastus - 2011-09-09 18:34

      To much to to pay for a corrupt piece of junk!

      DW - 2011-09-09 18:35

      EmptyCan, McBride is still not behind bars. He is still out on R1000 bail and has leave to appeal. Want to bet he will appeal - and cost the taxpayers even more money in the process?

      Rastus - 2011-09-09 18:39

      @ Rofras - what retarded piece of forest do you come bounding in from! Compensate your black brother for what! Raping kids, gogo's & culling your friend in a shabeen. What I enjoy is that half of you supposed to be black people don't gpo anywhere near the townships, or the schools!

  • vanderbijl89 - 2011-09-09 17:24

    What on earth is R750,000? How do you get to pay such an amount for being caught driving drunk and murdering a police officer in the process? Is there an equal application of justice to all in this country? Could we have expected the same judgement / plea bargain if a black person had killed a white cop? Such a person would be rotting in jail as we speak.

      Chris - 2011-09-09 17:30

      Disagree, dont try and pretend our justice system is lenient on whites boet, it is the other way round.... rape, Robbery with aggravated circumstances lets black poeple out after 3 years… and dont blame me for the black and white refferences, you brought it up...

  • CB4760 - 2011-09-09 17:25

    My heart goes out to the victim's family here. How is a life worth any amount of cash? Murderers belong in jail for life! This is not justice at all!

      Daemos1 - 2011-09-09 17:28

      Human history is littered with lives-for-cash let's move on

      EmptyCan - 2011-09-09 17:47

      So then why did the family accept the cash????????????/

      Mike - 2011-09-09 18:05

      Why did try to rob Bees?

      moiraine - 2011-09-09 19:01

      They probably thought objectively about the situation. Bees can go to trial and possible get off scot free or maybe go to jail for a long time. Then they will be without a breadwinner and possibly even without a pension if their loved one was proved to be corrupt. Or, Bees can get a prison record, suspended sentence and they can have a decent amount of money to keep on surviving and possibly build a better future for us. Many black (and other) families these days feed huge extended families on one small salary. Take that salary away and where do they stand?

  • Daemos1 - 2011-09-09 17:25

    None of us were in that car all we can do is try to make up the rest of the story in our heads.

  • Veld66 - 2011-09-09 17:35

    Whiteman escapes!

      Really - 2011-09-09 17:37

      Yip, once again the white man must pay for the corrupt black cop.

      EmptyCan - 2011-09-09 17:48

      Like Zuma, and Malema.......................

  • Dave - 2011-09-09 17:36

    I feel sorry for his family but showerhead needs to take responsibility - By his example corruption is OK. When are the ANC going to take real steps to rid our country of corruption.

      msendi - 2011-09-09 17:39

      What are you talking about???

      Chris - 2011-09-09 17:42

      Even if this was some dodgy deal, I believe before that can be done, they will need to change know that saying, lead by example..but lets face it, that will take another million years...if we are lucky..

      Dave - 2011-09-09 17:44

      Im talking about the ANC corruption that gets exposed daily. Selebi (convicted but yet to spend a day in jail),Cwele,Gewn,Malema). Showergead (Zuma), and his crrupt cadres, needs to answer for his corrupt dealing in the arms debacle. And before you call me a white racist youll note from above comments that Bees should serve time in Jail

  • vegetarian - 2011-09-09 17:40

    South Africa's justice system sucks. The issue of paying damages to the dependants of the innocent victim is totally separate from the appropriate sanction for his criminal behaviour. The man should have been convicted for the murder he committed and receive an appropriate jail sentence. While he is serving time the dependants of his innocent victim are free to lodge a civil suit to recover damages for loss of support, etc. The accused will in the circumstances defend the civil suit in handcuffs and under police guard until judgment is granted against him. The victim's dependants may then execute against the assets of the incarcerated prisoner to recover the amount awarded by the civil court as damages. What has happened here is the subversion of justice in favour of the rich as usual. No wonder South Africa is such a den of criminality.

  • jweer42 - 2011-09-09 17:42

    Old Bees must be careful now ... those Metro Cop tjommies of the deceased will give him hell, knock out tail lights and writing him tickets for it ... if they don't try the ATM trick again.

      EmptyCan - 2011-09-09 17:49

      Its a two way street my friend!!!!!!!!!

  • Christo Stone - 2011-09-09 17:42

    I think the punishment isn't severe at all. Not for killing another human...

      tstander - 2011-09-09 19:48

      Agreed. Neither corruption nor robbery warrant a death sentence... certainly not executed by a drunkard! Should everyone convicted of manslaughter have the option of buying themselves out of a prison sentence?

  • Colin - 2011-09-09 17:44

    Be careful! Its dangerous out there!!!

  • PinkAndProud - 2011-09-09 17:46

    Thank you Bees for ridding South Africa of yet another corrupt cop.

  • Veld66 - 2011-09-09 17:52

    The bastard used his money to escape justice, release all killers now

      Mike - 2011-09-09 18:07

      And teh corrupt cop?

  • Wiseoldman - 2011-09-09 17:53

    Glad it is over, but it is sickening that he still has to pay R750k to the family of a corrupt police officer's family!

      vegetarian - 2011-09-09 18:05

      You will do better if you can learn the basics of sentence construction. Then you will not babble incoherently.

      bluzulu - 2011-09-09 20:35

      Here' another example of what not to grow up being ,Kids

  • vegetarian - 2011-09-09 17:56

    I have been scratching my head for sometime and I am unable to find anyone rich, famous and politically connected serving appropriate time in prison for his/her crime. Those that get convicted merely report to prison only to fool the public and get out in no time. South Africa's justice system sucks.

  • BTRX - 2011-09-09 17:57

    Nogals snaaks dat hy nie tronkstraf kry nie, maar soos gewoonlik word sy sak geruk. Waar is die regverdigheid in hierdie saak, mense word afgepers, beroof en as hulle hulle self verdedig dan moet hulle nog R750 betaal!! Hoe rediculous is dit in hierdie piesangrepubliek van ons!!

  • judi - 2011-09-09 17:57

    Again,if you have money you can buy anything. If Bees was poor, he would probably serve a jail sentence like many other people who were accused of murder. We are clearly not all equal before the law.

  • burtfred - 2011-09-09 17:59

    The cops' family have prostituted themselves by accepting the money. Why was the crook's widow involved in the matter anyway? We don't have Sharia law (yet)

  • YALO - 2011-09-09 18:04

    Mandoza got the same sentence, for the same charge. There was less "Yaday yada" & he paid less ching ching that this Bees dude. Why are you talking this much cause every person found guilty of culpable homicide gets 5 years?

  • BTRX - 2011-09-09 18:04

    Hoeveel van die plaasmoorde sal soveel aandag kry. Geen, dit kan ek jou waarborg, slegs as 'n kind betrokke is (dalk). Ek as witman is gatvol vir die diskriminasie teen ons wittes en dan moet ons gedurig omverskoning vra omdat ons lewe!!!

      JC - 2011-09-09 18:09

      Ek hoor wat jy sê, en ek stem helemaal saam met jou. Maar ons moet net onthou, dat verkeerd, verkeerd is. Maak nie saak wie jy is nie. Geld mag nie jou sondes vir jou betaal nie.

  • JC - 2011-09-09 18:05

    Even though the cop might have been corrupt, which he probably was from the info we've received, I still think Bees got off lightly. Bees was drunk (while driving) and killed another human being. Paying a fine to go free seems a bit unfair and inhumane to me. However, I don't know what really happened. Maybe Bees was actually trying to defend himself, but beating someone until they are dead seems a bit excessive to me and falls into the manslaughter category, which should mean jail-time. I just hope this doesn't set a precedent.

      Neil - 2011-09-09 18:21

      @JC - You said "I dont know what happenend" so wait for more detail before you make stupid comments like "seems excessive to me". What if he was innocent and was being robbed. When someone tries to rob you, you either flee or fight, pissed or totally sober it's the same decision. This is not a bitch slap competition and if you decide to fight then you bliksem the buggers. Unfortunetly the cop chose the wrong dude to rob and the rest is history. More will be revealed in weeks to come.

      JC - 2011-09-09 18:35

      @Neil - First off, there's no need to be insulting. Secondly, you misquoted me. I said: "I don't know what REALLY happened". Meaning, I don't know what started the confrontation or the details. If you read the newspapers when this first happened, you would have read the reports that Bees repeatedly picked the cop up and slammed him into the ground. I think one body-slam is sufficient when you are Bees Roux. Also, do you think the police would believe you if you shot a guy 10 times and said it was self-defence? Hmmm...

      bluzulu - 2011-09-09 20:29

      This decision is just wrong and sets the wrong precedent for this young Democracy.

  • Rofras - 2011-09-09 18:07

    Rees is a Murder, he is geting away with it, and its all fine to white people.

      Really - 2011-09-09 18:12

      Rees who? - 2011-09-09 19:05

      Nice one RonJ, you mullet wearing red neck. You f#ck off!

  • Cynical CJ - 2011-09-09 18:12

    WHY the large sum of money! Because he is a "WHITE", "FAMOUS","RICH", "RUGBLYPLAYER". The funny thing is when my uncle was murdered on his farm and they convicted the criminals for "2" years for murder, my aunt did not get anything but more bills to pay the governtment.

      JC - 2011-09-09 18:22

      That's actually a good point. Now that I think of it, if Bees was sentenced to jail, the cop's family would have received nothing and be in trouble. Now however, they at least get something out of this mess. Much more than you can say for the thousands of families that lose their sole source of income when a family member is murdered and their only consolation is that the murderer is sitting in jail. Maybe the "greater good" was done at the end of the day.

  • Robin7 - 2011-09-09 18:14

    Without taking any sides here but something doesn't seem right here. I really hope that the real story surfaces in time to come. If he is guilty then sentence him. Why pay the family 750 000 ? What about other victims of crime? So now if a suspect is found guilty in court then he must pay restitution to the victim? This is effectively what the prosecution is inferring. You could also argue the fact that IF the metro had done their job that their arguably corrupt employee would not have been on duty and therefore would not have met his untimely demise. On the other hand you are saying that a life is worth 750 000 and if you have the cash then knock yourself out. Claim it was an accident and bob's your uncle. This entire case is sending the wrong message to the country. I hope the all parties involved actually know what they are doing here and what precedent they are about to set.

  • paula.vaneyk - 2011-09-09 18:29

    Hey watch it - I am a WHITE FEMALE FARMER - You say you are not racist yet you mention the colour. What the hell!!!! Keep to the subject - Remember what would happen if there were no farmers, grain, meat etc. Catch a wake up!!!!

      bluzulu - 2011-09-09 20:15

      That's good for you, How many generations has this farm been in your family?

  • Tjaart Roets - 2011-09-09 18:31

    This is just an example of the state of our country. Unlawfull police trying to mug the innocent. He only got what he deserved. "LIVE BY THE SWORD - DIE BY THE SWORD"

      anfield - 2011-09-09 20:06

      yea see where you coming from! you'll believe in blood river next!

      bluzulu - 2011-09-09 20:14

      an example of our pathetic society here

  • Coquine - 2011-09-09 18:32

    @ News24 - I can't be bothered to read through all the stupid comments to see if someone else has asked you this already but why does your heading mention a plea and then the last sentence reads that you don't know about a plea? Your reporting is shocking. I know it's because you're badly paid and barely trained due to financial constraints but can't you dig up some integrity somewhere or use common sense?

  • - 2011-09-09 18:35

    I can understand him beating up the officer, but bashing him to death?! This guy is back in society and hes a ticking time bomb waiting to explode on someone else. No mention of anger management or rehab of any sort. This guy needs help.

      bluzulu - 2011-09-09 20:13

      need a stun gun ,you reckon?

  • Georgp2 - 2011-09-09 18:39

    In SA thas probably the best way for him. Pay the corrupt bunch because a 5 year jail sentence is like a death sentence in our corrupt jail system. In the end to fight against the state (judge) what other options are there for him. How do you fight a corrupt system like this. Hope the R750k is tax deductable cause they want BMW's and Mercs from the people that can earn an income.

  • Mandla - 2011-09-09 18:41

    We should be equal before the law but we need to live with the outcame if the two parties have agreed to it.Send Bees to do community work with black people so that he can get a chance to understanding black people.

      Rastus - 2011-09-09 18:46

      Can't send black people to do community work - they'll affirmative shop the place!

      moiraine - 2011-09-09 19:08

      I agree that we should live with the outcome if the parties have aggreed. But where did you get the idea that it was a racist crime?

  • lumbani ganyali - 2011-09-09 19:07

    Jaaa ne?