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Bid to postpone Selebi's imprisonment

2011-12-05 08:14

Johannesburg - Convicted top cop Jackie Selebi's lawyers were expected to ask the South Gauteng High Court on Monday to postpone his imprisonment, the National Prosecuting Authority (NPA) said.

"They approached our prosecutors on Saturday and informed them of what they plan to [do], that he may not be able to present himself to correctional services on Sunday, but we told them to approach the registrar as prosecutors are not involved in that process," NPA spokesperson Mthunzi Mhaga said on Monday morning.

Selebi reportedly collapsed on Friday after losing his case in the Supreme Court of Appeal (SCA).

The SCA agreed with the South Gauteng High Court's finding that Selebi had received payments from convicted drug trafficker Glenn Agliotti.

'Critical'


Selebi had to report to authorities within 48 hours to start his 15-year jail term, but was granted a reprieve on Sunday because of a medical condition.

Selebi's lawyer, Wynanda Coetzee, told Beeld newspaper she visited him in hospital on Saturday evening, but due to the seriousness of his illness, he was unable to give her instructions on how to handle his case. Coetzee said Selebi was "really, very, very critical".

She confirmed his lawyers would approach the registrar of the High Court on Monday.

"If the order is that he must go to jail, then that will happen," she told the Afrikaans daily.

Asset Forfeiture Unit head Willie Hofmeyr told SABC radio news that the money paid to Selebi amounted to about R165 000.

"We've already obtained a confiscation order. We are waiting for the finalisation of the appeals and then that money will be payable... Our law entitles us to adjust those to inflation so the total order we obtained [was] for about R230 000," Hofmeyr told the broadcaster.

Selebi also needs to pay back his legal costs to the state. According to Business Day newspaper, that amount is estimated to be between R15m and R17m.
 

Comments
  • Shadoz66 - 2011-12-05 08:19

    unbelievable..

      John - 2011-12-05 08:37

      Whats unbelievable is the cost 18-17 bar,how could the state let that happen, dont think thet are going to get a dime back,and anyway i think this whole thing was preplanned just befor elections.

      MastersVoice - 2011-12-05 08:53

      It is entirely believable. Imagine the shock and trauma Selebi must be going through now - where once he was above the law, he is now a common criminal! I believe he is actually unwell, but I also think it is all self-induced, and that he should be shown no leniency. If only the Schaiks and Yengenis of this world could have been punished to the same degree. They owe South Africa a massive penance, but are too arrogant to even realize it.

      Ibhubesi - 2011-12-05 09:23

      Indeed Shadoz66. What a load of crock. They should load this old crook into a police van and if he dies on his way to prison, so be it. Enough people died because he corrupted the police service. There will be very few tears shed in this country if he goes!

      Trevor - 2011-12-05 09:27

      Believable, now we wait for the other police chief's demise. It seems like they don't care about going to jail. Oh i forgot the hospital card.

      tbooze - 2011-12-05 09:30

      for heaven sake the guy didnt kill anyone ,he didnt still anyones money either ,we got murderers ,rapist and real fraud-stars(BEE and some so called shady tenders ) running free .not that im saying he shouldn't go to prison but should at least recover 1st . getting 15 years for a meer R165 000 bribe is to hush compared to the murderers who are in and out of jail in a space of days

      Wes - 2011-12-05 09:41

      Accountability Definition The obligation of an individual or organization to account for its activities, accept responsibility for them, and to disclose the results in a transparent manner. It also includes the responsibility for money or other entrusted property. Accountability. ANC Definition - I have the ACCOUNT and the ABILITY to fill it

      JoaoFlickr - 2011-12-05 10:03

      @tbooze You must be forgetting the 150,000+ people who were murdered, the 500,000+ who were raped, and the 2,000,000+ who were robbed, under his wand of corruption. Not even mentioning the drug trade which his corrupt heart and mind fortified to being the most thriving on the planet. As a corrupt chief of Interpol, he further shamed and humiliated every single South African. And this all deserves an: “... the guy didnt kill anyone, he didnt still anyones money either”?

      Marion - 2011-12-05 10:47

      @tbooze... whilst I sympathize with Selebi and what appears to be a genuine health issue, one mustn't forget that he was the President of Interpol for four years too. For tarnishing the image of that institution alone, through his criminal acts as our top cop, he deserves a lengthy sentence in my opinion. There are prisons with really good hospital facilities that he could be sent to until he is well enough to join the general prison population.

      nasheenar - 2011-12-05 15:05

      People of South Africa should stop paying tax. As this man is allowed to bill the tax payer for his defense even after stealiing millions but the tax payer is not allowed to have state defense as he or she would be deemed capable of paying for own defense. This man will get it right he wont go to jain and he will be allowed to spend the money he stole. Loook at Schabir ...not too sick to play golf?

  • Mannie777 - 2011-12-05 08:24

    GO TO PRISON HOSPITAL!!! End of story.

      James - 2011-12-05 09:39

      You do not pass Go. Go to Jail. Shaik used the last Get out of Jail Free Card.

      ivan.coetzee2 - 2011-12-05 10:07

      Will set a helluva precedent if they get it right!

      Aqhama - 2011-12-05 14:18

      Yes Mannie he is not going to jail. From Jakaranda Hospital to Prison Hosipital after a month a jail free card. that is easy with these guys.

  • MurrayDixonTaylor - 2011-12-05 08:25

    I have never heard of this disease 'critical' before. I hope they find a cure and quickly. I dont know how I would feel having this 'critical' disease.

      Sean - 2011-12-05 08:34

      No, lets hope that they do not find a cure, this way this c8nt can do us all a favour and pass on to the netherealm

      Ronald - 2011-12-05 10:16

      It is beyond belief how suddenly "our" upstanding government employees develop chronic and critical ailments when faced with jail terms, suspension, or even such simple things as hard work or service delivery. It boils down to people being allergic to taking responsibility, methinks.

  • africanhope - 2011-12-05 08:25

    Let us sing it together: Shaik it to the left, Shaik it to the right' I wonder what Jackie's Golf Handicap is?

      OSSY24 - 2011-12-05 08:31

      THE SHUFFLE

  • Bob - 2011-12-05 08:26

    "Coetzee said Selebi was "really, very, very critical". Right..! and if the appeal had been successful he would have been dancing on the ceiling, very very fine!

      Mannie777 - 2011-12-05 08:39

      Yes, and I wonder how is "very, very critical" different from being "critical"??

      Bryan - 2011-12-05 08:42

      I remember the same words were said about Shaik...."very critical" and he could join the P.G.A tour now as his golf has become so good..haibo!!

  • Gavin - 2011-12-05 08:29

    if you cant do the time, dont do the crime. off to prison you go criminal, sick or not

  • Poloyatonki - 2011-12-05 08:30

    Jail the scum, please.

      Annelise - 2011-12-05 11:56

      Wow Poloyantonki, never thought I would agree with you. But yes, I agree!!!! Jail the scum, please.

  • OSSY24 - 2011-12-05 08:31

    NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! SOMETHING FISHY!! SOMEONES GETTING BRIBED!!

  • Pierre - 2011-12-05 08:34

    Convicted top cop - lol he never was a top cop, just a plain old scumbag

  • Lynn - 2011-12-05 08:35

    Prison hospital is where he should be.

  • SeeVeeDeeEl - 2011-12-05 08:37

    "Selebi was really, very, very critical" Of the court that turned down his appeal?

  • Johan - 2011-12-05 08:37

    Strong case of Shaikitus...

  • Vicker - 2011-12-05 08:38

    Heres how it would have happened in a country where the rule of law and Justice actually applies: Jackie pays for his own defence, the State doesnt sponsor him. He gets found guilty, and from the courtroom he gets taken directly to start his internment. While in internment he lodges his appeal/s, and if succesful, gets released. However, he now gets his defence for free (what are the chances he is going to pay back 17 bars?) He gets to stay in the comfort of his (luxurious) hospital and/or home while lodging appeal after appeal. Sooner or later he knows that some critical documents will get "lost", and the whole case falls flat. Once that happens, the State can also not pursue the loan. That, in a nutshell, is the South African Justice system for you...

      MissGremlin - 2011-12-05 12:54

      alarmingly enough, I actually know someone who was recently sent to jail (fraud). The difference in how they were treated versus the treatment that JS is getting, is astounding. They were taken directly from court, after being handcuffed, no goodbyes to children, straight to the holding cells and then off to Jhb corrections centre. Why, did he get 48 hours to report? The woman in question was heavily pregant at the time of her sentencing, and when the baby was due, she was transferred to Baragwaneth, and chained to her bed for four days, until she went into labour. Why is JS not chained to his hospital bed? It is clear, that there are two types of justice in this country, one for the haves, and one for the have nots...

  • Richard - 2011-12-05 08:41

    He also received an undisclosed amount in US dollars and payments in kind. Go to jail pal.

  • Larry - 2011-12-05 08:42

    Go and do your time. Derby Lewis is being treated in Prison, the same should apply to you.

      Poloyatonki - 2011-12-05 09:28

      Derby Lewis and Selebi committed 2 different crimes...Derby Lewis killed our struggle hero, while Selebi committed a minor crime.

      lenandiv - 2011-12-05 09:52

      @ Poloyatonki..They might have commited different crimes.. but the same rules should apply to ALL prisoners! Yr statement is illogical and irresponsible... so the two murderers who killed E T should do their sentence in a luxury hotel cause they killed a famous apartheid figure? He IS GUILTY that = he goes to jail.. finish and klaar!

      JoaoFlickr - 2011-12-05 10:13

      @Poloyatonki You must be forgetting the 150,000+ people who were murdered, the 500,000+ who were raped, and the 2,000,000+ who were robbed, under his wand of corruption. Not even mentioning the drug trade which his corrupt heart and mind fortified to being the most thriving on the planet. As a corrupt chief of Interpol, he further shamed and humiliated every single South African. And this all deserves an: “... Selebi committed a minor crime”?

      MissGremlin - 2011-12-05 12:56

      @ poly. The SA prison system does not differentiate. Killers are kept with white collar criminals all the time.

  • Baxito - 2011-12-05 08:46

    Shame askies boss, 15 years for R165 000. I'm sure you'd have made that in less than a year.

  • Koos - 2011-12-05 08:48

    jaaa... laat dit nou vir jou n les wees neh..... wonner hoe lank gaan zuma vat om jou uit te kry sodat jy en shaik saam kan golf speel!

  • Anthony - 2011-12-05 08:49

    if anybody steals food from P&P and gets sentence and faints in court those cops will drag his body to the cells with out a second thought. WHY not selebi? By not reporting to jail is that not a crime?....

      Mannie777 - 2011-12-05 09:15

      Yes, A warrent of arrest must now be issued!

  • Herman - 2011-12-05 08:50

    Tronk toe! anc gemors!

  • Mphotent - 2011-12-05 08:51

    Glenn Agliotti should be called in as well...this matter is not yet finalised, bribery is a prosecutable crime...

  • Ian - 2011-12-05 08:59

    yewwwwwwwwwww whats that awful stink, oh no worries just the sickening smell of anc corruption

  • moby.quest - 2011-12-05 08:59

    "...really very, very critical"?? Yeah right! I bet that if he was found not guilty, he'd be sitting in the Caribbean sipping on Pina Coladas and Mojitos at this very moment! And what are the chances of him paying back teh R17m of our tax payers money??

  • Mandy - 2011-12-05 09:07

    another shabir episode coming up......

  • Traygon - 2011-12-05 09:08

    being sick in his bed at home or sick in his bed in prison - whats the difference? Go to jail yu WUSS! drop the Shaikalitus!

  • yvonnerichardsvandijk - 2011-12-05 09:11

    Justice is served... let him go rot in jail.

  • Annalene - 2011-12-05 09:11

    Sean, your language is a disgrace.

  • Peter - 2011-12-05 09:11

    Shocking. Who ever came up with the idea for the state to pay his defence upfront? The health card once again proved to be a valuable trumph card to keep him out of jail. Just wonders if Malema will also use that card to keep him out!

      Marion - 2011-12-05 11:10

      He already used it once to delay his disciplinary enquiry so can't see what would stop him from using it if found guilty in a court of law.

  • Deon - 2011-12-05 09:31

    I must say I was pleasantly surprised to hear that Selebi's lawyer is a white Afrikaans speaking woman. We do need each other in SA.

      SeeVeeDeeEl - 2011-12-05 09:37

      You should have noticed by now that when the new black elite is really in the s_hit they tend to avoid their own kind. Why?

  • Terry - 2011-12-05 09:35

    I'll be surprised if this guy spends more than 6 months in jail (probably in the prison hospital), before he gets released on medical parole due to his 'very, very, critical' condition - after which he and Shaik can spend their days improving their handicap. The ANC is rotten to the core - and nothing is going to change that.

      Johan - 2011-12-05 09:38

      Derby-Lewis has cancer and what not, and he isn't "sick" enough to be released. Shaik has a stubbed toe... and gets released.

  • Nyiks11 - 2011-12-05 09:42

    I feel extremely sorry for him for having to spend his 70's in prison .He did the crime and it is only appropriate to do the time too .He is going to die a very sad man

  • Andre - 2011-12-05 09:42

    An very shameful event surely. Unfortunately he has to carry the consequences of his actions. Shouldn't Mbeki take responsibility for appointing an unfit person for this critical job? He just wasn't up to it from the beginning. Same with Zuma and Cele.

  • Mathapelo - 2011-12-05 09:43

    Give this man a Bells, he managed to get sick.

  • Chris - 2011-12-05 09:44

    He'll not go to jail because he has cANCer!

  • Khulekani - 2011-12-05 09:45

    E baba Go to Jail don waist our time....

      Garth - 2011-12-05 10:30

      Khulekani, you and Baxito are part of the problem in this country - you are still showing the man respect. `Baba, boss, etc.' The man is a lowlife criminal who should forfeit all of his status. As an example of this, Yegeni was given a heroes parade on his way into, and shortly thereafter, his way out of jail. They are not fighting against apartheid with their criminality, they are fighting against you, the common man. Remove this mindset that criminals are to be revered and we start this country on the road to recovery.

  • Brownskin - 2011-12-05 09:48

    Shaik is at home pretending to be sick, the same should happen to Selebi...

  • ezekiel.ratshefola - 2011-12-05 09:51

    He must report to prison and choke on his own vomit while at it, and save us all.

  • Philip - 2011-12-05 09:51

    In a true democracy this sort of thing does not happen. Justice is swift and you go to prison. In this country the judicial system is set up to favor the criminal. How many years did this Selebi case languish in the courts before a guilty verdict was rendered? How long did it take to convict a judge of drunken driving? How long did it take McBride to be found guily? How long will it take to get Police Commissioner Cele (suspended with full pay)to be judicially dealt with based on the verdict handed down by the public protector. There should be a time limit set up to ensure that criminals are pulled through the court system in an expedient way, and that the suspention with full pay also have a time limit. Throw the corrupt politicians into jail and let them reminisce on their corrupt ways while behind bars serving a FULL sentence..This corrupt ANC government is costing the minority of taxpayers in South Africa a lot of grief based on their incompetencies, and causing South Africa HUGE monetary losses. Throw Selebi into jail immediately, and let him be dealt with over there. What an embarresment to this country..

  • Brownskin - 2011-12-05 09:52

    Selebi must just pretend to be sick, and he will serve his 15 years @ home like Shaik.....

  • ntomzodwa.tshabalala - 2011-12-05 10:01

    HE COUNTED HIS YEARS AND COUNTED THE YEARS THAT HE HAVE TO SPEND IN THE PRISON AND GOT ILL...

  • Munchk1n - 2011-12-05 10:02

    This behaviour has already affected our work place, when JM suddenly realised he was going to be found guilty, he was suddenly very ill, and now JS falling ill after being found guilty. Whenever some of our staff make a mistake, they don't pitch at work for a few days as they are suddenly ill. Instead of going to a senior person and saying that they have made a mistake, and we can fix it. They instead runaway from the problem and come back after we've found and fixed the problem. Some are already on unpaid leave they We have only our "leaders" to thank for this behaviour.

  • malcolm - 2011-12-05 10:20

    Poloyontonki, R165000 may seem like a small crime by ANC standards. The biggest crime is spending millions in tax payers money, by claiming innocence when clearly knowing you are guilty. This, and abusing such a prominent position. He got off lightly. Let him do the time.

  • Shirley - 2011-12-05 10:21

    He is realy,realy ,realy scared shi@less! Prison hospital is good enough for all other prisoners-why should he be treated in a fancy hospital? This is all a long planned stategy and the authorities are dumb enough to fall for it!!!!! Dont tell me the legal "brains" in the npa didnt see this coming. Another croanie being pampered and looked after!

  • George - 2011-12-05 10:22

    Agliotti and Selebi should be sitting in the same cell totether. Then they can order a larg NANDOS chicken singing "those were the days my friend"

  • gembleton1 - 2011-12-05 10:42

    Issue an arrest warrant, send an ambulance and collect him from his private health care facility and take him to jail, he had 48 hour to present himself there so now is should be considered as an escaped convict , go fetch him.

  • p.zylstra - 2011-12-05 10:58

    This is yet another fine example of South African justice. Justice (the anc way)to the criminal and injustice to the nation. We are the laughing stock of the developed world.

  • CallanL - 2011-12-05 11:00

    If he truly is ill then when he is released from hospital his doctors report should be made available to the court. I smell another Shabby Shaik case coming on...

  • cedric.c.andrews - 2011-12-05 11:02

    Everyone could have guessed this..... who believed he will really report to Prison on Sunday?.... are you nuts?.... in a country like this?...hehehehehe

  • Marion - 2011-12-05 11:15

    I wonder who will pay the legal costs incurred since he got sick on Friday?

  • Msholozi - 2011-12-05 11:17

    comrade selebi is an old man he got a fright for prison give him time to heal

      Shirley - 2011-12-05 11:52

      He wasnt too old to do deals with underworld thugs,he wasnt too old to take the job of "top cop" and Interpol and embaress his country,he wasnt to old to allow more of the south african public to be exposed to drugs! He is vermin-he was supposed to server and protect but he betrayed every single policeman/woman and south african citizen.He knew what he was doing then and he knows exactly what he is doing with his little sham now!!!!!!!

  • wayne.nkuna - 2011-12-05 11:26

    rubish, This is the same lame excuse they all use.....sick