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Blacks worse off now: Malema

2012-08-30 14:10

Johannesburg - Black people are worse off than they were during the apartheid years, expelled ANC Youth League leader Julius Malema said on Thursday.

"We are worse [off] than during the times of apartheid. We are being killed by our own people. We are being oppressed by our own government," he told mineworkers at the Aurora mine in Grootvlei, Springs.

More than 1 000 mineworkers from the liquidated Aurora Empowerment Systems and the neighbouring Gold One arrived to hear Malema speak.

He said politicians could not help the workers because they benefited from the mines and had shares in them.

"Every mine has a politician inside. They give them money every month, they call it shares. But it is protection fee to protect whites against the workers."

'No leadership in the country'


He said the fact the Aurora crisis had lasted for four years showed there was no leadership in the country.

Aurora Empowerment Systems bought the mines when the previous owner, Pamodzi Gold, went into liquidation. Since then workers have not been paid and the mines have been stripped of assets.

"If there was leadership in this country it can't take four years. Four years shows that there is not leadership. When they [politicians] arrive to represent you, they give them money and they forget you."

Malema told the workers they should form a committee to speak to the lawyers and present their complaints to the liquidators of Aurora.

'Start of a revolution'


He announced what he labelled the start of a revolution in the mining sector.

"We are going to lead a mining revolution in this country. We are going to each mine. We will run these mines ungovernable until the boers come to the table," he said.

"We want them to give you a minimum wage of R12 500. These people can afford R12 500. Mining in South Africa amounts to trillions of rands."

About 5 000 people had been left jobless at Aurora. It was currently under liquidation.

The prospective buyers of Aurora mines, Gold One, have allegedly fired over 1 500 workers who went on strike demanding a minimum wage of R6 500.

The miners claimed management then replaced them with contract workers.

Comments
  • chaplinncharlie - 2012-08-30 14:18

    This guy is causing more trouble than anything... STrange that the ANC let him doing what he is doing or is he just another Agent for the ANC...

      fishycraig - 2012-08-30 14:27

      He is most likely the loose cannon that can say what the ANC wants to say but can't. Now that he is not "confined" by the ANC he can mouth off the most outrageous diatribe and get away with it. When the government comes to its senses and moves forward lets hope Malema is left behind as a solitary voice. Hope... Mmmm...

      smalefane - 2012-08-30 14:36

      @chaplinncharlie, Malema is no longer a member of the ANC and he is not representing the ANC or addressing people as a member. The ANC therefore does not have any authority whatsoever over him. It's unfortunate that the media is creating this hype around him. Of course, why wouldn't they..the boy is making waves with every rubbish he utters.

      max.reynecke - 2012-08-30 15:08

      Since when does Khulubuse Zuma and Zondwa Mandela qualify to be called "boers"? Any black person believing what Malema is saying deserves to be poor and exploited by his fellow black countrymen.

      michael.vanrheenen.9 - 2012-08-30 15:26

      Malema is a racist to the core! He hates whites and wherever there is wealth, his little pea brain is stuck on "white controlled" He is right about the fact that blacks were better off during apartheid than now... The only thing the government back then asked the blacks to do was to please stay away from some of our places and please leave our government alone. Crime was very low and jobs were plenty and the country flourished economically and was a powerhouse! It all went down the drain since 1994... Pitty. We should have stayed in Europe!

      oompie.netoompie - 2012-08-30 15:28

      What is really happening here is that he is saying is OK, if you don't want to nationalise the mines, we will take them. If something drastic is not done soon, he and his commie mates will succeed.

      linds.ronhouse - 2012-08-30 15:33

      Very important to remember that Malema is not a member of the ANC.

      linds.ronhouse - 2012-08-30 15:34

      Very important to remember that Malema is not a member of the ANC.

      thando.gqabaza - 2012-08-30 15:34

      Blacks are worse off but this idiot sure is well off

      alan.gernet - 2012-08-30 15:37

      Truth is that blacks are worse off than they would have been had there not been corruption, tender fraud etc etc. So when Juju (dressed in Gucci) makes these statements, it would not be a difficult task for an educated person to determine Juju's credibility. Limpopo - Cradle of Corruption!

      Willie - 2012-08-30 15:40

      He is not an ANC member any more (at least for now)

      classwar.trotsky - 2012-08-30 15:43

      This demagogue is purely standing to enrich himself off the blood and sweat of the working class. Dragging the 'Boers' into this is disingenuous at best, outright obfuscation at best. The workers actually need to be emancipated from Africanist corruption - self enrichment and screw the working class. Malema is as much an enemy of the working classes as the imaginary 'Boers' he peddles to the poorest of the poor as the imaginary enemy.

      patrick.buckley.712 - 2012-08-30 15:48

      Malema proves two great truths: 1. TALK IS CHEAP 2. EMPTY VESSELS MAKE THE MOST NOISE.

      junebugg.kinte - 2012-08-30 15:49

      Malema is just a bitter vengeful person who will say anything to spite the leadership he was "Willing to take arms and kill for".... Anyone who still takes this guy serious must have their brain checked, I bet if Zille said what he said 2 years ago..he would have been screaming "Racist"

      da.durbanite - 2012-08-30 15:53

      And you people want Zuma out...if he retains his position Malema will be gone but if he loses...trouble starts, i support Zuma coz he'll crush this idiot come december!!

      junebugg.kinte - 2012-08-30 16:12

      asda

  • alu.ntsandeni - 2012-08-30 14:19

    Thanks to you and your corrupt friends.

  • sean.carbutt - 2012-08-30 14:19

    For the first time ever, i agree with you. Eeeish, now the neighbours are going to talk. As for your government quote, well, why do you keep voting them into power then?

      lorain.maseko - 2012-08-30 15:23

      Sean you only agree with him because you liked the idea of the original owners of this country being your servants but let me tell you something he doesnt know what he's talking about,because under your apartheid system he wouldnt even dare breathe without permission

  • grant.n.dickie - 2012-08-30 14:21

    you right malema -let the whites come back into power.

      fishycraig - 2012-08-30 14:35

      Hahaha Curriemafia... At least the food will be good!

      peter.ndamase - 2012-08-30 14:58

      Interesting....... I just wonder what would be the excuse when you can't deliver, blame 18 years of power by ANC, blame apartheid maybe? And oh wait, when you were in power then you had only 5million, the number has increased ten times since then, maybe another room for an excuse. Thanks but change of governing party helps with Zilch!

      morama.sebata - 2012-08-30 15:10

      The thumbs up u got represent the stupid majority of news24.....it's not about the race but effieciency moron.Whites has ruled in white's favour so blacks are doing the same.....f@@@k race when coming to the leadership of the country!!!

      okonkwo7 - 2012-08-30 15:17

      Let's give Asians power, seeing that the next world superpower will emerge from Asia

      martin.britchford.9 - 2012-08-30 15:22

      give the presidency to the women, no quotas, just women. its time the world got some heart rather than head

      bones.mine - 2012-08-30 15:29

      When the whites had their chance, everything was working, and everyone got paid.

      phillys.winterbottom - 2012-08-30 15:55

      curriemafia: hey Bobbie, buy one mine, and get one free!!!!

      rodney.overes - 2012-08-30 16:02

      curriemafia do you want to make it cheaper,,,,,,can curriemafia buy there spares and equipment cheaper then give the workers a big pot of rice and then claim WE GAVE THEM PLENTY TO EAT...WE ARE LOOKING AFTER THEM>>>>wake up, the people need to learn to be productive then more pay is no problem, as half the staff on the mines and municipalitys are just standing around waiting for the clock card to tick.........

      steve.gibson.146612 - 2012-08-30 16:05

      @ Curriemafia, Great at least we can get it at a discount!!

      rontheogre - 2012-08-30 16:21

      Curriemafia, you are right. I have not seen an Indian owned business fail yet!

  • Cari0123 - 2012-08-30 14:22

    Oh wow - are we never going to see an end to this idiot???

  • KCorsar - 2012-08-30 14:24

    Yeah right and next he will be telling us more BS, this is little more than cheap shots aimed to gain support from a largely semi literate, poorly educated (thanks to ANC government) desperate work force. Weak and pathetic, hopefully these poor souls (pawns on the ANC political chess board) will see through it and begin to relaise the ANC dream is more nightmare.

  • Squeegee - 2012-08-30 14:25

    Darn I hate it when I agree will Juju.

  • sbu.mahwai - 2012-08-30 14:25

    Ok Mr loud mouth point taken. Hope you know that when it comes to liquidation creditors are paid first, so stop toying with these poor folks emotions.

  • gladlad - 2012-08-30 14:26

    No Comment!

  • glen.e.huysamer - 2012-08-30 14:26

    Malema is right except for one thing, the 'boers' have left the mines, years ago. The 'boers' are nobody anymore they are as down and out of luck as the blacks in this country, in debt up to their ears, and drowning by the numbers. Most are scraping through, without a hope of pulling through, on the political spectrum the 'boers' have become a non-entity. In actual fact they are now known as the lost white tribe of Africa and in actual fact were the first to come to the workers aid at Aurora when they shared out food packs. It was white struggling workers united with struggling black workers that helped expose the corruption at Aurora and who did everything they could to keep the water pumps going. It is wrong for Malema to fuel hatred when all workers on the mine (black and white) suffered under the greed of ANC cadres.

      steve.gibson.146612 - 2012-08-30 15:50

      I didnt hear Malema objecting to the Black ownership at Aurora whilst he was still in the ANC.he should start to realise that he was part of whatever corruption was taking place and he continued to turn a blind eye. Now he apportions blame as the racist he is to the whites and anyone else he believes he can discredit in his path towards obtaining some recognition and an illiterate audience.

  • tin.can.501598 - 2012-08-30 14:26

    Ju Ju lives up to the words that African democracy consists of choosing your dictators, after they've told you what you think it is you want to hear.

  • bj.pieman - 2012-08-30 14:27

    Don't we live in Sandton?

  • DrGonzoSA - 2012-08-30 14:27

    He starts off sensibly enough but the idea that shares "are a protection fee to protect whites against the workers" is hilarious even by his own low standards. Who owns Aurora fat boy?

      richard.hipkin - 2012-08-30 15:08

      To answer your question, more fat people.

  • firstseed.mbeva.9 - 2012-08-30 14:27

    OK!

  • donald.perumal - 2012-08-30 14:28

    @Malema Then you don't know what happened during Apartheid.You sound as if you are justifying Apartheid-never thought I'd see the day.Apartheid was a trillion times worse -the problems at the mine are being manipulated by yourself and others to pave the way to Mangaung!

      morama.sebata - 2012-08-30 15:16

      Yes,Apartheid wa worse than anything someone could ever imagine of.....now i see it's pain to the majority of news24 to say that....YES APARTHEID WAS EVIL!!!!

      Chumscrubber1 - 2012-08-30 15:44

      A trillion times worse. At least the sewers spilt into working sewage works, not straight into rivers. At least there was some law and order and education. Need I carry on? Worse in some ways, but better in many ways.

  • samantha.ungerer.1 - 2012-08-30 14:29

    Jeez Malema cant you sing another song this one is so old. will you be happy when at last there are no more white people left in SA? you are a lunatic really. you have no right to go on about appartheid, you were not there boetiekie. stop singing the song that the real victims of appartheid should be singing, get over yourself!!!!!!!

  • lood800 - 2012-08-30 14:30

    So is he saying it was a good thing?

  • smalefane - 2012-08-30 14:30

    Are you worse off Malema? Methinks not. Our people should go to school and stop disrupting classes and burning down schools. R12 500 for people who don't even have primary school education? Ja neh!!!

      tokologor - 2012-08-30 14:59

      if we can all go to school,what r we going to replace the under ground miners with what?,couse no one will go and that job

      Goboza Mashaba - 2012-08-30 15:53

      I think u also need a basic/primary education urself, especially on employment principles. We need to pay the job not people. those ppl risk their lives drilling de core of de earth to go home with R4000 en enriching foreign owners!

  • thabang.bonang.7 - 2012-08-30 14:30

    Speaking in general terms, He is right.

      burningdogz - 2012-08-30 15:24

      About what? About boers owning the mine? Wrong. Aurora was owned by two black gentleman. Well, one black gentleman and one black elephant that presumably ate the other black gentleman. Is he right about the goverment being paid kickbacks to protect the white people? What white people? Aurora was a proudly BEE mine. Still everything else he got right. The ANC is failing the people. There is a lack of leadership and people do seem to be getting worse off. Time for this osterich to pull his head out of the mine and start to realise that it is not the white people who are to blame. Until the population of the country start taking responsibilty for their own action and stop blaming the whites (who are mostly working on their own future and despite popular belief is not plotting the downfall of black people every second of the day) then maybe they will realise that they can make a true difference with their ballot papers. The ANC failed, so face them. Period.

      nosiphom.mazibuko - 2012-08-30 15:29

      about what in particular, Thabang? I am not disagreeing with you, as there is something right in what he says, but there is also a lot wrong, so generalisisng is my issue!

      andrew.surtees1 - 2012-08-30 16:23

      wrong brother, stop blaming the white man for mistakes made by people who are corrupt and cant handle big business! maybe realize that education is the key here, not colour!

  • frans.makota - 2012-08-30 14:30

    The fact this politicians let this country down, especially with this corruption,BEE implementation and of implementing everything.

  • fishycraig - 2012-08-30 14:31

    Aurora? I wouldn't bring that mine to the discussion Malema. Personally I would prefer the assurance of R4 000 a month and stability than the pie in the sky idealism and eventual failure of a BEE mine.

      DrGonzoSA - 2012-08-30 15:09

      Exactly, Aurora should be held up as the prime example of what happens when you sell (give) mines to people who know nothing about mining.

  • bradley.kecskes - 2012-08-30 14:31

    First!!

  • shirley.steenkamp - 2012-08-30 14:32

    My problem with his comments are-whilst he was still in ancyl,he didntt mind all the politicians being involved in mining,or any other intitution for that matter. He certainly didnt have the view of being worse off. Which means only 1 thing-this is a platform to acheive his own motives!Tell you what juju,seeing as you feel they need R12500.00 per month,pay them out your trust fund. Put your money where your big mouth is!!!

      illana.pretorius.3 - 2012-08-30 15:03

      You wish! His own garden boy wasn't paid for the work he did.

      kent.paulsen.79 - 2012-08-30 15:58

      Yes I agree. Put your money where your mouth is. Ask your donators for the cash to buy the mine and you will be running the mine yourself and see how much you get and how much your donators trust you with their money and until then stay away as you are also the problem and not a solution

  • shudusO - 2012-08-30 14:32

    Obvious we are worse considering the fact that Idiots like you lead people and get a good living even if they are not working.

  • susan.pretorius.31 - 2012-08-30 14:32

    For once talking a bit of sence - but you are definately not worse off, judging by the condition you are in.

  • oompie.netoompie - 2012-08-30 14:33

    Everything must now be "ungovernable". Making a mine/city/region/country "ungovernable" not a form of terrorism or treason ?

  • gavin.vonmeyer - 2012-08-30 14:33

    I don't trust Malema. But what he is saying hear bears the Truth. Even though he is opportunistic, for once he is talking sense.

  • johan.vanheerden.737 - 2012-08-30 14:34

    JuJU this is the quickest way to close these mines down-BTW look who are the biggest owners of the mines Aurora/Pamodzi and then speak

  • wikus.schalkwyk - 2012-08-30 14:34

    Welkom broeder!

  • patricia.dewet.92 - 2012-08-30 14:34

    The miners are in big trouble with Malema Promises there. The is always talking about a revolution, hope he knows what it is. Miners are better qualified than Malema, because they are trained for a job. All he knows is how to get a tender without being able to perform. If I can advised the miners stay clear of him.

  • koos.vandermerwe.75 - 2012-08-30 14:36

    Why are the "boers" in trouble when that group was run by "the brothers"?

  • jo.barton.92 - 2012-08-30 14:36

    until the boers come to the tabel? What are you smoking? These mines are owned by Black people.This is exactly what the White man was saying will happen and it has come to fruition.You reap what you sow.

      odupreez - 2012-08-30 15:55

      But the whites must take the blame.

      bensam23 - 2012-08-30 16:00

      I agree with you...what are you smoking JuJu?

  • harald.voney - 2012-08-30 14:36

    Zapero is going to have a field day with this one!!! JM is such an opportunist, dishonest and the worst exploitator in SA... and why do we give him airtime to share his dumbness with everyone....

      nosiphom.mazibuko - 2012-08-30 14:50

      Because the poor hopeless miners, who are illiterate will trully believe he cares. They will trully believe that nationalisation will be the salvation - ignorance is one big problem. Hitler mnaged to convince the Germans in the 1930's that he was doing them good, because he repeated the same thing over and over and over again. People suddenly really "saw" who their enemy was. It suddenly became clear who was responsible for the suffering, and Hitler was offering the solution, including the "Endloesung" - Malema is the modern day hitler and the Youth league the modern day "Hitlerjugend". And the more they disrupt schooling breeding more illeterate, desperate souls, the bigger the danger of a modern day Holocast / or maybe just anarchy - look at the rubbush happening in Kuruman!

      steve.gibson.146612 - 2012-08-30 15:56

      @Nosiphom Congrats on sound thinking and sane logic!!!!

  • peter.ndamase - 2012-08-30 14:38

    I disagree with you Comrade Chief. You see then white people had 5million population to deal with. Now the ANC is faced with a population of 50million. do the maths and stop acting like a minority denialist!!!

      koos.vandermerwe.75 - 2012-08-30 15:42

      He could hardly pass woodwork, how you expect him to do the math?

  • davidhein.schermers - 2012-08-30 14:38

    Malema knows where to scratch. Unfotunately he's become the rash. Aurora mining was owned by nephews of Zuma and Mandela - and two (non boer) Indians - Solly and Fasel if memory serves correct. And Pamodzi Gold was owned by Ndaba Ntsele (that I know), I dont know where his "boer" claims come from. He is scratching, and picking out. Its time the government stands up and silences this rat. He will throw this country into a civil war if he continues at this rate... We must look at systems to empower all, but it doesnt land in your lap for free - it requires a degree of hard work! Its just that people will believe anything this rash Julius will tell them - he often lies (in the case of Ramaphosa BUYING a R20mil buffalo) to get them on his side... We must be very careful

  • maswelelennox - 2012-08-30 14:38

    Tenderpreneur SAID IT

  • moi.carla.1980 - 2012-08-30 14:39

    Gee, what a surprise...it's all down to the whites and boers. How predictable julius. Same old rhetoric from you.

  • gideon.rossouw - 2012-08-30 14:41

    I don't think this ideological claim can be backed up by scientific evidence, but having to put up with the populist machinations and vulgar elite lifestyle of one Julius "Man of the People" Malema is certainly something new and repellent.

  • customdesign - 2012-08-30 14:42

    Don't know why the media is giving this idiot a mouth piece. Articles like this will make news broadcasters complicit in the violence to come as a result of Malema and his sick ideologies.

  • nicky.rensburg.1 - 2012-08-30 14:43

    You don't say... so if we cant blame Apartheid, what or who can we blame?

  • ruben.maistry - 2012-08-30 14:44

    This is a snake talking.If he comes into power, God forbid,he will plunder everthing.

  • mantothieve.missingman - 2012-08-30 14:44

    You just want your own mine , you miss your range rovers hey ?

  • dewalds3 - 2012-08-30 14:44

    Yes - and they will even be MUCH worse of, if you have it your way.

  • richard.zanner - 2012-08-30 14:46

    Tell me news, tell me the Titanic sunk. Off course they are worse off. Other than benefiting the few with their great tender projects nobody has had anything. No housing, schooling or employment. BEE was created as a get rich fast scheme but benefited nobody. Now our Minister of Educations says basic education is no longer a right. So who won. The skilled people have left, businesses were destroyed by BEE and tender processes. All we have today is an upliftment of a few well connected people and the rest have been left to rot. The story of Africa. Malema pretends to be for the poor souls that were forgotten but he is not. He is simply using this as a springboard to new heights. It is the Africa way. We speak for all but look after ourselves. Look at Mugabe. His people are starving but look at his house.

  • willy.vanniekerk.9 - 2012-08-30 14:47

    Julius i applaud your tennacity, However like Pres Zuma found you out so will the "followers" you have duped into believing your lies. They go home to the settlements and you drive home in your Range Rover to one of your mansions. I wonder what would have happened were you white? I'm sure you would have been trialed and sentenced long ago.

      dnxumalo2 - 2012-08-30 15:44

      True that ...gates are always locked to comrades.

  • jackie.stone.501 - 2012-08-30 14:47

    What a lot of crap from Juju, nothing could be compare to apartheid. I am sure if it was during apartheid all 3000 of them would be dead now. Even thought of doing a demonstration would have met with fire. And it is funny that people agreeing with Malema are all white, do you live a black life?

      Chumscrubber1 - 2012-08-30 15:53

      Help, liberal attack!

      Muffin_man_can - 2012-08-30 15:57

      All dead? Haha you live in your own disillusioned little hell woman, shame..

  • neville.chamberlain.509 - 2012-08-30 14:49

    Pretty soon this guy is going to come out in public with a tinfoil hat so that "the boers" can't read his mind and control his actions - what a twit

  • lynne.barker.7 - 2012-08-30 14:50

    And exactly WHO owned Aurora??? I might ask?????

  • steveroodt - 2012-08-30 14:51

    Wow at least for one day he has something intelligent.

  • evan.connock - 2012-08-30 14:51

    Malema is correct on this count, HOWEVER, they are worse off because they voted in a government that made all manner of promises they never intended to keep. Where in the world do people get free houses? Instead of creating jobs and educating they have abused taxes for purposes of self enrichment. There is also a great deal of irony in his statement. He would never have said the same thing when he was still leader of the ANCYL. Unfortunately, you can rest assured he has not seen the light but is rather using the statement to jockey for political gains.

      Chumscrubber1 - 2012-08-30 15:54

      Under apartheid they got free houses? But ja, everything he utters or does is politically motivated. Absolutely everything. A greedy fella, this one.