Bogus cops shoot Vereeniging man

2011-07-26 11:18

Johannesburg - Four men were arrested after a gang shot a man five times outside his home in Vereeniging, Gauteng police said on Tuesday.

Captain Shado Mashobane said gangsters were apparently wearing police uniforms, and were driving an Audi with police lights.

"We think that they might be reservists, but we need to investigate further," he said.

The gang of nine men shot 55-year-old Gary Immelman in his chest, abdomen and limbs on Monday.

Beeld reported that the men forced their way into the house and attempted to blow up a safe while Immelman was out. His wife, who was home at the time, activated the alarm.

Immelman rushed home and found the Audi outside. The occupants then opened fire on him, the newspaper reported.

Five of the men escaped during a shoot-out with police.

Mashobane said Immelman was in a stable condition at Union Hospital in Alberton.

The four suspects would be charged after the police had concluded their investigation, he said.

  • TheRealist - 2011-07-26 11:30

    All voting in favor of severing the hands and feet of these crooks say "Aye!"

      2nd coming - 2011-07-26 11:38


      Eric West - 2011-07-26 11:39

      This never happened in the "evil apartheid days"! Members of the old SAP looked after their uniforms and equipment. Nowadays, you can rent a uniform and a blue light (and even an R5) from your nearest police station! TRANSFORMATION = FAILURE!

      Eric West - 2011-07-26 11:40

      Ooops! Forgot to say "Aye!". ;)

      TheRealist - 2011-07-26 11:48

      @Eric - Exactly! @Everyone - It comes dowen to own word: Competence

      WiseOwl2 - 2011-07-26 12:17

      AYE - the problem is who`s bogus and who isn't - from the very top our police are corrupt and they too wear uniforms !

      Michael - 2011-07-26 13:06

      @Eric West-Are you sure it never happened? My brother was taken by 6-8 cops in front of me and my granny back then.They took him to a nearby bush in Umlazi(Durban)and he was told to run for his life,shots were fired at him as he ran.They placed his bullet-riddled body on the railway line and the train severed him into pieces.He was accused of keeping guns at home which he never did.Another guy, a neighbour of ours was shot dead inside at home on the same accusation,by the so-called cops back then,some in uniform some in normal clothing,carrying R4's and other big machine guns. Other people were taken and we don't know what happened to them,families have no closure,no person no dead body found. All i'm asking for is that people must stop generalizing things,some of us live with scars in our hearts that will never heal,stop trivialising matters.This was a difficult comment to write for me but i thought i should nonetheless.

      Wayne - 2011-07-26 13:13


      Wayne - 2011-07-26 13:17

      @Michael - I have sympathy for your past and I feel that apartheid was also guilty in this practice, however hatred towards the whites should not cloud the blacks judgement. We need to rescue what is left of our country and by doing so we need to be harsh and rid ourself of these criminals. If you raped someone then off goes the wiener and you will bleed to death, a hand for stealing and a head for murder. No mercy!!

      bling bling - 2011-07-26 15:13


  • Civil_Rights - 2011-07-26 11:31

    Bring back the death penalty. Our prisons are already over crowded.

      TheRealist - 2011-07-26 11:36


  • Taurusaurus - 2011-07-26 11:33

    I hope the SAPS catch them all, track that audi, and find the bastards and make them pay for their crimes!!

      Wessel - 2011-07-26 11:45

      Now tell me if you on the road what must you do when a police officer want to pull you over.These days the murderers dress like cops.Got blue lights.Do you stop and bee killed or drive away to the nearest police station.You get there and it was cops you will be charges.And if you white maybe be treaten as a thief.What do you do.

      daaivark - 2011-07-26 12:49

      Now that is to the point. Well said.

      daaivark - 2011-07-26 12:50

      You learn decent English so you can communicate.

      Wayne - 2011-07-26 13:21

      @daaivark - You are such an idiot.

  • Sky - 2011-07-26 11:41

    How did they know about the safe and its contents? Hope this family get rid of their employees, if they have any.

      Marcell - 2011-07-26 11:48

      You will find that there was a safe inspection for his firearms recently.

  • Chewbacca - 2011-07-26 11:43

    What's the difference between a bogus cop and a real one?

      Marcell - 2011-07-26 11:48

      The real one will have KFC stains on his shirt.

      daaivark - 2011-07-26 12:51

      Good one, Marcell.

  • erno.v.dyk - 2011-07-26 11:46

    (Slightly) far more serious than the harassment of that ANC lady (in the same town) just before the elections I'd say. The only difference being that she got plenty of airtime while this article is hardly worth mentioning as this HAPPENS EVERYDAY somewhere in SA! It really gives apartheid some legitimacy when you think about it. Nobody ever asked why something like apartheid got implemented well, my thinking tells me it is because 1/3 of the Afrikaner population got murdered and as a race something had to be done to ensure our survival.

      Eric West - 2011-07-26 12:24

      Those poor cops are still on suspension - 8 months later!! And, another cop was fired for supporting them on Facebook!!

  • Marcell - 2011-07-26 11:50

    These were not bogus cops.

  • edd - 2011-07-26 11:55

    So Cele, you visitng this family as well?

  • jowza - 2011-07-26 11:57

    well done saps.dont mind eric west and his supporters,they just negative about everything in life

      TheRealist - 2011-07-26 12:08

      It's not about being negative, it's about preventing the same thing from happening again. What better way than setting a standard and making an example. Would you consider using profanity in public if all who did so were thrown off a bridge - no you wouldn't.

      TheRealist - 2011-07-26 12:10

      I do however commend te SAPS as well.

      jowza - 2011-07-26 12:13

      what are you going on about erics comments first

      Eric West - 2011-07-26 12:30

      Oh, please!!!!! It is a known fact that the ex terrorist "soldiers" in the SANDF hire out their weapons over weekends!

      daaivark - 2011-07-26 12:52

      Eric, please don't tar all police with the same brush. Reason is a wonderful thing once you learn how to employ it.

      Worldwise - 2011-07-26 13:01

      "Oh, please!!!!! It is a known fact that the ex terrorist "soldiers" in the SANDF hire out their weapons over weekends!" Sorry Eric, but you're speaking rubbish. The SANDF is too scared to arm their soldiers in case they turn on their officers, so all weapons are locked up in the armouries. Gaurds at gates, if they have weapons, have no ammunition issued. Evidently. you also know nothing about military arms procedures. Even under apartheid in the war years, no soldier in SA was allowed to have ammunition in his posession when not on patrol or gaurd duty. In your tent/bungalow/accommodation you kept your rifle but no ammunition. The reason is to prevent easy suicides and shooting of colleagues by disgruntled soldiers. All western armies operate this way.

      tryanything - 2011-07-26 13:05

      Do you blame Eric west for being negative

      jowza - 2011-07-26 13:10

      the cops caught the guys.why do you have to be negative about that

      Wayne - 2011-07-26 13:25

      @Eric West - Please provided references for making such a claim, it is VERY VERY hard to believe.

      Marcell - 2011-07-26 13:50

      @Worldwise. The SANDF is not a Western Army. Between tin tin cele's thugs and the troopers more weapons are lost/sold than by anyone else.

      janbantjies - 2011-07-26 15:33

      @Worldwise The old R1 ammunition was easily available from gun shops, not to speak of the pistol ammunition. You needed a license for a suitable caliber more often than not. With a little know-how even that was not a problem. The calibers of the latest automatic/semi automatic rifles to day have their commercial equivalent. Ammunition can be obtained. There are very many thousands of military firearms from the conflict days that were never accounted for as well. Would it help if we asked the ANC/Inkhata/Whatever what exactly happened to them? Members of the old SANDF also made weapons available to "criminals" for the purpose of destabilizing. It`s probably still going on today by "both sides." I know of someone who manufactured ammunition commercially who doesn't even lock up his factory at night, He didn`t even close the factory door, even at night, leaving thousands of live rounds lying around completely unaccounted for. When I asked him about it he said his staff were trustworthy and in any case they would be caught if they tried to sell the ammo in the nearby township, so this acted as a kind of a deterrent for them. He said one was caught in that way before and he didn`t think they stole anymore. I was horrified.

  • Ryan Tunney - 2011-07-26 12:04

    Hey, these aren't bogus cops, they're real cops. All Cele's buddies that he knows f**k all about.

  • Ockert - 2011-07-26 12:08

    ? Bogus Cops ?

      Wessel - 2011-07-26 13:33

      Who watch Carteblanch 2 weeks back.Coper stolen and gave it in by scrapyard.The owner got the cops out.When they catch them 4 of them were police officers.What happen to them.Goods was taken away by the police.Cops are back at work and the goods are gone.They spoke to the chief and he doas not got any thing to say.Let you think.Be a cop today and be friends with the chief and give him some thing and you will be ok.Now that is South Africa police.

  • Paralegal - 2011-07-26 12:18

    "The four suspects would be charged after the police concluded their investigation" - WTF?! Surely they can be charged with attempted murder IMMEDIATELY and the rest of the investigation can be completed and additional charges brought?

      Neles - 2011-07-26 12:37

      I saw that in an episode of CSI: Vereeniging

  • Da.Liva.Delvira - 2011-07-26 12:26

    Well I've done this a few times... If I'm followed by a traffic officer or SAPS I drive to the nearest police station in a heck of a speed. There is no offense to get to a police station if you think that your life is threatened. The police can lay charges but they will be dropped immediately. A peace of advice, try and video record the whole incident with a cellphone if you can, It will help a lot...

  • Mkhetheka - 2011-07-26 12:30

    Perhaps we should move towards place our valuable items with Banks intead of keeping safes in our homes.

      Chewbacca - 2011-07-26 12:37

      Then when they nationalise the banks the crooks get it all anyway

      Worldwise - 2011-07-26 13:04

      So you're going to go to the bank to fetch your firearm when the theives break and enter?

      janbantjies - 2011-07-26 16:41

      Banks are increasingly shutting down the safety box facilities. Can any honest banker tell us why?

  • Echo Pta - 2011-07-26 12:41

    I know the family, my thoughts go out to them and wish Mr Immelman a speedy recovery

      John Fox - 2011-07-26 14:55

      Hello Echo Pta, I also know the family very well, have done for over 20 years. Mr Immelmans son contacted from the hospital to give me an update. Thankfully the bullets missed all the vital organs and Mr Immelman was operated on successfully. For those who don't know Mr Immelman is a local businessman and employs hundreds in his factories.

  • Andre B Grove - 2014-10-30 21:20

    Great now 4 years later may we have a follow up on the court case ?

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