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Buchan wants to address Marikana miners

2012-10-10 09:23

Johannesburg - Evangelist Angus Buchan is scheduled to speak at a religious gathering in Rustenburg, and is hoping to involve miners as well, Beeld reported on Wednesday.

Rustenburg churches were calling the gathering at the Olympia Park stadium next Saturday "New Beginnings", and stated that its purpose was reconciliation.

Organiser Francois Burger said Marikana residents would definitely be present, and they were working hard to involve miners as well.

The last thing they were hoping to achieve was a "white gathering", he said, and they wanted to "unite the Rainbow Nation".

Buchan said he had agreed to speak on condition that there were miners present, as he could preach in English and Zulu.

According to Burger, Rustenburg's mayor had made the 35 000-seater local stadium available to them, and all the churches in the area had agreed to take part.

Forty-six people were killed in Marikana in labour-related violence in August.

Comments
  • sanchez.sancho.7 - 2012-10-10 09:29

    Ameeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeen

      eddy.deepfield - 2012-10-10 10:15

      Is he going to take an offering? The suffering don't need pie in the shy they need steak on the plate. All he can offer them is false hope, in a false God using false faith. Well i suppose if it calms then down by having false hope it is okay. Every thing is beautiful again. See it's easy. Allelujah. You may be seated.

      PrettyUsefulArt - 2012-10-10 10:20

      $$$$$$.... ooops, sorry, meant to say Zzzzz.

      dewald.galjaard - 2012-10-10 11:20

      I don't get it. These people have no money. Thats why they're stricking dumb@55

      petrus.ngwenya.3 - 2012-10-10 11:26

      Struggling potato farmer who now realises his media coverage is directly proportional to his bank account. I am a christian, but I do not have much time for these sensationalist gold diggers.

      zambezi.river - 2012-10-10 11:45

      'They came with the bible in their hands and we had the land, then they asked us to pray with them and close our eyes,when we opened our eyes they had the land and we had the bible'(Robert Mugabe). All things done in the name of Christ.

      PrettyUsefulArt - 2012-10-10 13:04

      @ zambezi.river - Slat my met 'n slap snoek. Never thought I'd see the day that I agreed with anything MadBob said. Sjoe.

      mr.minnaar - 2012-10-10 13:59

      small things amuse small minds

  • classwar.trotsky - 2012-10-10 09:32

    Stay out of this, preacher.

      eva.walle.75 - 2012-10-10 09:42

      Is standing on the side lines b_tching about everything a better option?

      classwar.trotsky - 2012-10-10 09:50

      He does know what he is doing. Marketing more of his dire evangelical propaganda books and dvd's.

      Jane - 2012-10-10 10:02

      stay out of this classwar! Unless you can do something to diffuse the situation, if not shut up!

      classwar.trotsky - 2012-10-10 10:09

      @Jane - I am staying out of it - I am not going around eyeing up an opportunity for a captive audience. The preacher is pulling a Malema. Christianity never solved anything, only brought the world authoritarianism and oppression and self righteous judgement.

      claudia.meads - 2012-10-10 10:14

      classwar.trotsky, Kindly tell us what Malema has DONE (viz – he knows what he is “doing”) other than self-enrichment, tax-avoidance, money-laundering, malicious incitement and alike..? Malema, rogue political movements of public terrorism like the Democratic Socialist Movement and alike, wants to spark a revolution that will catapult them into the cash-pots of government (the road to riches for inept, uneducated, thugs in SA), on the back of WHITE-HATE. God and Angus Buchan must be standing squarely in their way. Come on and be honest - what you are really saying is, Buchan is white and therefore you are simply confirming that the support for Malema is out of a hate for whites, nothing else...

      christopher.shining - 2012-10-10 10:25

      Well at least he is marketing good versus Evil(malema)

      classwar.trotsky - 2012-10-10 10:44

      @Claudia - actually I am white, and I think Malema is a capitalist opportunist, much like your beloved preacher. I feel sorry for you people who see race in everything - I never mentioned race once. But you had to bring out your deep-seated liberal self-righteous racial non-sequitors.

      claudia.meads - 2012-10-10 12:13

      classwar.trotsky, I do not give a flying hoot what your (supposed) skin-color is - as far as I am concerned, you are an alien from a foreign universe called 'COLLECTIVISM' and specifically from the PLANET OF THE PARASITE. You are my mortal foe irrespective what you call yourself and/or what you call me... BTW – it is ‘non-sequiturs’ and not ‘non-sequitors’(sic) you illiterate morosoph… Suggestion: stick to your playground, viz the Woodwork sandpit, here you are clearly out of your LEAGUE…

      classwar.trotsky - 2012-10-10 12:42

      Liberal ad-hominems from the capitalist parasite.

  • davy.crockett.5209 - 2012-10-10 09:32

    Total foolhardiness. These poor miners do not need more men of talk. What the situation needs is for men of action like Julius Malema to guide them. They need people who are committed to their economic freedom.

      planetdonovan - 2012-10-10 09:40

      thanks for the lolz, davy crockett

      claudia.meads - 2012-10-10 10:02

      Kindly tell us what action Malema has taken other than self-enrichment, tax-avoidance, money-laundering, malicious incitement and alike..? Come on and be honest - what you are really saying is, Buchan is white and therefore you are simply confirming that you support Malema out of a hate for whites, nothing else...

      sarecen.smith - 2012-10-10 10:05

      dam your stupid

      dewalds3 - 2012-10-10 10:13

      I am curious - would you explain to me the 'economic freedom' in simple, straight terms. What do you expect from the 'economic freedom'? It will give you freedom to do what exactly? I would really appreciate it if you would answer me, davy!

      eddy.deepfield - 2012-10-10 10:28

      davy.crockett - you actually do make some sense. Evangelists are just talkers opportunists and takers and respond to the hard times people go through by corralling them to Christ. A lot like Malema they rely on the gullibility of the poor. Jesus was also against the rich and mighty just like Malema. In fact Malema thinks he is the new saviour of South Africa. Maybe he should start a religion there are enough believers in South Africa who will clutch at any straw that gives them some emotional hope.

  • ingwe - 2012-10-10 09:34

    Have religions not caused enough hartbreak through the ages?

      eva.walle.75 - 2012-10-10 10:21

      Fanatic freaks gave religion a bad name and caused the heartbreak and violence. Not God.

      idille.borchers - 2012-10-20 17:01

      There is a difference between 'religions' and a relationship with God

  • gary.doyle.520 - 2012-10-10 09:37

    What's he going to do, preach some faith to these Potatoes from underground??

      classwar.trotsky - 2012-10-10 09:44

      I'm sure there is another evangelical book and dvd release in there somewhere for the christian opportunist.

      shaylene.stenger - 2012-10-10 10:28

      Well has anything else worked or calmed the situation around that area? um no so maybe it is prayer that is needed?

      gary.doyle.520 - 2012-10-10 10:56

      Typical religious views, all the same. Expect everyone to believe in them

      classwar.trotsky - 2012-10-10 10:58

      Prayer never solved anything except to fill the one doing the praying with self-righteous smug elitism.

  • Blackpoison - 2012-10-10 09:39

    This is going to be interesting....

  • Mtshezi Yonk'insipho Iyawasha Mkhize - 2012-10-10 09:42

    Seems like a good move, I hope it all goes well and God's peace which surpasses man's understanding be with the victims n that reconciliation will be achieved. If South Africans were able to forgive the former oppressors I think they can do just the same in this case. Well I hope they do for their sake...

  • henk.vanrensburg.31 - 2012-10-10 09:51

    MMC = Money making conference branching out I see!

  • Vince.York - 2012-10-10 09:51

    How many opportunists are latching onto SA's tragedies to stake their claim to fame? 1/. zuma? 2/. the fat schizoid paranoic phsycopath? 3/. bloated union leaders who have for decades misled & ripped off members? 4/. defenceless rabbits trying to hide their magical powers? 5/. random self proclaimed preachers? 6/. past Nobel Prize winners trying to make a 2nd coming? 7/. fluffed up prima dona tribal kings and all their glorious extended promiscuous progeny using tax payers funds all the way? 8/. 4500 NEC party members who cannot remember why they exist but still hold an entire nation to ransom and promote democracy to pay for tribalism? 9/. Educationalists that promote sheer stupidity? 10/. zanu-pf influences of the SA parliamentary handbook on how to thieve & legitimize rape and violent crime? and WHAT has happened to the happy clappy bunch that are normally sitting on zuma's left shoulder, being so quiet for so long?

  • richard.hudson.758 - 2012-10-10 09:52

    Nothing wrong with this. Hopefully he can bring some sanity to this chaotic situation.

  • jaques.brink.9 - 2012-10-10 09:52

    You go Angus and Francois, stand up and make a difference and show those on the sideline that something can and must be done. God bless you...

      tania.vlok - 2012-10-11 11:19

      Nou is die kans vir al die mighty men manne en hul families om saam op hul knieë te gaan en vir vrede en regverdigheid te bid. Omdat almal van geld 'n afgod maak is dit baie moeilik om visie verder as jou paycheck te hê: of dit R2mil of R2duisend 'n maand is.Dit gaan nie oor Angus en geld nie, maar om iemand wat gaan help om bietjie Lig te bring.

  • Adriaan - 2012-10-10 10:12

    Angus wants money!!!

      desertratbkf - 2012-10-10 10:20

      Now that was a twat of an idiotic comment! What a ringer!

      Adriaan - 2012-10-10 10:33

      @desertratbkf: Angus will not be happy - Might Men do not say things like that. Now pay up and all will be forgiven by uncle Angus! He is simply another Benny Hinn / Ray McCauley, but dressed as a farmer.

      desertratbkf - 2012-10-10 10:36

      You clearly know NOTHING about the man! Enough said!

      Adriaan - 2012-10-10 10:41

      Actually, I like to read up on people before I comment on them and have seen / heard the backwards religious bullsh$t he sprouts to prey on lost souls. Truly scary the things he make people believe who should be helped not fleeced more. Not my problem if you fall for any old bullsh$t.

      gary.doyle.520 - 2012-10-10 10:48

      I liked your comment Adriaan, you entitled to it. It does sound like Angus is digging deep.

      ester.venter.3 - 2012-10-10 10:50

      Oh Adriaan... You actually believe everything you read??! Shame...\r\nHave you been to a mighty men conference yourself?

      Adriaan - 2012-10-10 10:58

      Oh Ester - no I do not believe everything I read, but I have some mental capacity to discern fact from fiction - unlike the Angus B bullsh$t followers. And yes, I have seen the videos and spoken the people who attended it - shame, unfortunately I could not inject the with a dose of "reality" and "rational thinking".

  • smalefane - 2012-10-10 10:14

    Now here's a good God fearing Afrikaner. Angus is able to cross the racial divide without shoving Christianity down everyone's throat.

  • gvangreunen - 2012-10-10 10:16

    delusional!

  • eddy.deepfield - 2012-10-10 10:32

    davy.crockett - you actually do make some sense. Evangelists are just talkers opportunists and takers and respond to the hard times people go through by corralling them to Christ. A lot like Malema they rely on the gullibility of the poor. Jesus was also against the rich and mighty just like Malema. In fact Malema thinks he is the new saviour of South Africa. Maybe he should start a religion there are enough believers in South Africa who will clutch at any straw that gives them some emotional hope.

  • shaylene.stenger - 2012-10-10 10:33

    well nothing else seems to be calming the situation down in the mines, so maybe a little prayer may help. And besides I would rather have someone try preach peace than other individuals instigating and making things worse....

  • daniel.machet - 2012-10-10 10:33

    oh goody... one more on the bandwagon

  • christina.setloboko - 2012-10-10 10:35

    Good move Mr. Buchan, nothing is impossible with GOD - we will be surprised of what GOD can do in the middle of this storm in S.A. I have hope things will turn around. absolutely good move. thank you JESUS.

      Adriaan - 2012-10-10 10:43

      If nothing is impossible, then why did he let this mess happen in the first place? Or are you going to use the "it was not god, but man's sin" defence? Amazing that your all powerful god could not interfere or did not deem those miners worthy of his intervention? Or maybe he simply do not exist!

      eddy.deepfield - 2012-10-10 10:45

      Where is God? In your heart? Where is that? Is he in heaven? Where is that? Oh that only leaves your mind. So God lives in your imagination and in the error ridden Bible. You might as well just believe in Malema at least you can see him.

      Dawn Campbell Gibson - 2012-10-10 11:23

      god created the storm. just like he created the devil.

  • pierrie.vandermerwe - 2012-10-10 10:48

    Give the man a chance,he might just surprise all you sidelined critical people

      eddy.deepfield - 2012-10-10 10:55

      We gave Jesus a chance for two thousand years to come back again when he said he would come back in the same generation as those listening to him. Where is he? He has had his chance and so has Christianity. We are NOT living in the Middle Ages.

      frank.reidrobertson - 2012-10-10 15:17

      scripture was clear Israel would need to be back in t he land after been exiled. before any end time events would start.

      Justin - 2012-10-10 15:45

      I totally agree with you.

      eddy.deepfield - 2012-10-11 00:14

      Frank - you are lying for Jesus. Matthew 24:34 "Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass, till all these things be fulfilled."

  • Adriaan - 2012-10-10 11:02

    I am sure old Angus will launch a new book / movie / tartan outfit / cap / apron for wife at the even - I mean Angus... I mean god needs to buy his potatoes - growing them is left to real farmers.

      gary.doyle.520 - 2012-10-10 11:08

      There's not much difference between polititians and the religious elite. All prey on the desperate and needy for self gain or to boost own moral esteem.

      Justin - 2012-10-10 15:48

      This guy was more of a farmer than most people i know.

  • frank.reidrobertson - 2012-10-10 11:06

    They can use some of Gods love in this troubled time

      Adriaan - 2012-10-10 11:09

      You mean the same god who withheld his "love" when they got shot and when they have been paid next to nothing for their labour??

      kenpeg.dawson - 2012-10-10 11:14

      Let Angus, Pastor Ray and Tutu and all the other happy clappers join hands and visit them together waving their Bibles and Crosses. The SAPS will thing it is new weapon of mass destruction and call it an illegal gathering and OPEN FIRE.

  • jody.beggs - 2012-10-10 11:12

    Keep the faerie tales at home...

  • glen.e.huysamer - 2012-10-10 12:53

    From Muti -to This is there a difference?

      chris.steytler.1 - 2012-10-10 13:49

      no there isnt, two sides of the same coin.

  • jacqui.daanevanrensburg - 2012-10-10 13:35

    What is he going to promise them?. Manna from heaven?.

  • luca.delbianco.3 - 2012-10-10 14:54

    yeah why not? after Malema it is time for a professional preacher:)) Maybe he will calm down miners. Cheers,

  • Justin - 2012-10-10 15:44

    I really admire this chap.

      RodinsThinker - 2012-10-10 17:15

      Why?

      ianingwe - 2012-10-10 23:15

      Because he tells it as it is ?the man is the head of the house and the woman must serve and respect him because the buybul says so?

  • msburger1 - 2012-10-12 19:24

    Striking miners don't need a preacher, they need to be educated. Hitler and Marx were correct in their condemnation of religion (Christianity in particular). The mine worker strikes are having quite an effect on our economy (and all because goodguys Lonmin gave them an additional R750/month raise over and above the pre-negotiated two year wage agreement). The uneducated masses (especially ones from predominantly tribal backgrounds) have a long way still to evolve before they realise that taking the arm when offered a finger is not an effective strategy. Neither is religion and it saddens me to see Angus (happy clappy) Buchan jumping to take advantage of uneducated minds. They will only use religion the way any tribal based mind will - as a good luck charm. When they see it doesn't work, it will be straight back to spears, shields, chants and riots.

  • colleen.williams.1840 - 2013-01-14 17:48

    Why dont some of you people commenting here get off your fat behinds and see if you can do anything better?? You are not helping this country but digging it deeper into the slime with your remarks and racial abuse at anybody that wants to try and do good! Get off your fat behinds and go and do some good, somewhere!!!

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