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Cape Town streets up for renaming

2012-02-23 12:37

Cape Town - Residents of the Mother City have until the end of March to comment on the renaming of 27 streets, the City of Cape Town said on Thursday.

Mayoral committee member for transport and roads, Brett Herron, said he would look at public proposals as well as a series of suggested name changes from previous years.

He said seven of the streets proposed for renaming cut across multiple sub-councils and wards, impacting on a large number of people across the city.

"These streets will require a more rigorous public participation process."

The seven streets are Hendrik Verwoerd Drive, Jip de Jager Street, Vanguard Drive, Lansdowne Road, Jan Smuts Drive, NY1 in Gugulethu and Willie van Schoor Drive.

Public meetings would be held at venues across the city on March 6, 13, 20 and 27.



Comments
  • Forsythe - 2012-02-23 12:42

    Dragons!!!!

      Jako - 2012-02-23 12:47

      spent some time on keo did you?

      Forsythe - 2012-02-23 13:05

      lol....its habit.

      Mike - 2012-02-23 13:29

      Now look, I don't understand this!?! OK, some may be offended as it holds onto the past era... However, there is no money to remove the Seli-1 from Bloubergstrand in over 2 years, yet there is enough money to go and change street names???? Where is the priorities??

      Francois - 2012-02-23 13:31

      If Cape Town knows its history, it will keep Jan Smuts. Also kinda strange that the DA always state renaming of street as wasteful expenditure and now a DA run city in a DA run province wants to do the same. Am I the only one to see the irony?

      Hans - 2012-02-23 13:34

      They must stop renaming existing streets. Rather build new ones and name those.

      Vaal-Donkie - 2012-02-23 13:37

      You are not alone.

      Gerhard - 2012-02-23 13:40

      OK, I still don't get it.... :(

      Ryan - 2012-02-23 16:25

      @ Alicia - Agreed Jan Smuts was a champion for all South Africans. NY1 stands for Native Yard 1 - I can understand why the would want to change that

  • Chanel - 2012-02-23 12:50

    They didn't build it, yet they want to put their names on it.....

      richard.hipkin - 2012-02-23 12:54

      "They"?

      Bob - 2012-02-23 13:01

      Well I guess if you can't do anything about corruption, health, education, unemployment and crime, you might as well change some street names, that's really useful.

      dnt07 - 2012-02-23 13:13

      They liked it, so they're going to put a ring on it.

      Steve - 2012-02-23 13:18

      @Poloyatonki... Is this your twitter profile? https://twitter.com/#!/Poloyatonki What was that about a white man with a Panga in his head? If that is your account then you are a true racist you moron! And speak alot of crap!!!

      Barry - 2012-02-23 13:54

      I want, I want, I must have, We demand.

      Nosiphom - 2012-02-23 13:56

      Neither did you. They are maintaining the streets, so they have the right to decide what name should be on the next sign they want to replace! By the way it is a DA council, hence no ANC bashing on any of the comments, how funny!

      Barry - 2012-02-23 13:57

      @Poloyatonki, remove the apartheid face completely? Why build an Apartheid museum then?

      matt.proxenos - 2012-02-23 15:51

      @Poloyatonki: Think of it more like this: the company car is recovered, and you are a shareholder in that company. You cannot unilaterally decide to get personalized plates, but the company as a whole can decide to do it - and that's only something they will do if they company is in a good financial position, otherwise they wont waste the money.

      chibase - 2012-02-24 21:21

      And I suppose you want to enlighten us all... Who built it?

      matvee111 - 2012-02-25 12:02

      bull***..what a bunch of crap chanel

  • TheJaydedKing - 2012-02-23 12:50

    this renaming thing is such crap. first you fix the frikking economy, crime rate, rape rate, education levels before you waste money on making stupid signs.

      richard.hipkin - 2012-02-23 12:55

      We've beaten that drum on here for years...

      richard.fahrenfort - 2012-02-23 15:57

      Who cares?! Waste of time and money. Just change the road signs already so we can move on from this no issue. We have faaaaar more important things to fix here than a few road names.

      chibase - 2012-02-24 21:35

      It is necessary to change the names, especially those bearing negative apartheid connotations. This reminds me of the words Jesus said in response to accusations of wasteful expenditure by the traitor Judas Iscariot -- Matthew 26:11 "for the poor you will always have...". The day will never come when SA or any other country will not have something that someone considers worthier.

  • Steve - 2012-02-23 12:50

    Oh please, this is just so pathetic! Why not take all the money used for this crappy process to feed the hungry?! Just more fruitless waste of money......

      Poloyatonki - 2012-02-23 12:56

      Steve.. The plan is to remove apartheid face completely, you should be supporting the idea not shooting it down.

      Forsythe - 2012-02-23 13:08

      pola...or whatever ur name is.....shut up u twit!

      Steve - 2012-02-23 13:10

      @Poloyatonki It's not just the idea behind this! Its the funds now needed to print new maps, print new road signs, update gps devices etc - I can go on and on... WASTE OF MONEY!!!

      Nlgga - 2012-02-23 13:24

      @Poloyatonki 100% Correct

      procold2 - 2012-02-23 13:28

      @POLIODONKEY and NlGGA, PULLING THE PI$$ AND TRYING FOR REACTIONS, YOU GUYS MUST BE SO BORED

      Gerhard - 2012-02-23 13:31

      My GPS is so confused......

      Sheik - 2012-02-23 14:17

      Agree Steve, I have bought a few books recently where the "K" word is on just about on every paper. Does that mean I must dump these books to be politically correct, I think not because history is a process. People thought the world was flat, that the Universe revolved around the Sun, all this is in writing, ever though we now know better, we can't change that. History can and will never changed by ruling parties in their quest to have everything look politically correct. Verwoerd's name will forever be on peoples tongues, as will Shaka, Piet Retief, Petorius to name a few. Like most people I still remember a time when Johannesburg was a world class, clean and well run city, as compared to today's "World class African City" that looks like Lagos,dirty, badly run with street names that have bee changed to hide the dirt and not the History.

      Wim - 2012-02-23 18:34

      Yes there was a time, not so long ago, that negros were a sub specie of homo sapiens. (Encyclopedia Brittanica 1928.) It was also changed.

      chibase - 2012-02-24 21:36

      It is necessary to change the names, especially those bearing negative apartheid connotations. This reminds me of the words Jesus said in response to accusations of wasteful expenditure by the traitor Judas Iscariot -- Matthew 26:11 "for the poor you will always have...". The day will never come when SA or any other country will not have something that someone considers worthier to invest in.

  • Herman - 2012-02-23 12:52

    Dis reg, tart maar ons Boere! Die dag as die **k gaan spat, gaan dit op julle voorstoep wees!!!

      Dries - 2012-02-23 12:58

      Los ons straat name uit, dis ons mense se name..Mr Vos,ons sal nie weer vir jou stem nie...Sal maar die spray paint blikkie moet uithaal

      chibase - 2012-02-24 21:41

      Dries, ek stem saam met jou. Moenie meer stem nie. Daan sal die regte party altyd wen.

  • russelmukondwa - 2012-02-23 12:54

    Hendrik Verwoed Drive has to change though.

      Forsythe - 2012-02-23 13:12

      typical.

      paul.maarman - 2012-02-23 13:18

      iesh carlo, that is just too radical, accept the fact, that for a truly south african narrative and social cohesion, some crap needs to be thrown out....

      Forsythe - 2012-02-23 13:26

      careful carlo....dont put ideas into their heads they just might.

      Carlo - 2012-02-23 13:30

      I guess "Freedom of Speach" also has to be changed hey? My comment was deleted so here we go... COPY....PASTE....ENTER

      Gerhard - 2012-02-23 13:35

      Yes and replace it with a name of someone who has killed lots of innocent people in Cape Town, like they did in Amanzimtoti by renaming the main road after the same prick that bombed the shopping centre there.

      Sheik - 2012-02-23 14:34

      But you'll still remember what it old name was!!! It will always follow you like a shadow. FACT

      Nosiphom - 2012-02-23 14:58

      Agreed russel, I cringe everyday I have to drive on John Vorster, Hendrik Verwoed, and more - in Tshwane Centurion that is, wher the FF+ has succeded in maintaining those horrible names!

      modumo - 2012-02-23 15:43

      Honestly I dont have a problem with the names in CPT, I mean they are quite neutral like Constitution, Plein, Long Shormarket etc, I think the only one I would have to agree with is the Gugulethu one as NY actually stands for Native Yard. bringing this up a day after the budget speech was really clever(NOT). I just think certain things are a reminder of our heritage and not a reflection of our downfalls ie apartheid, we went through it, we survived, at least most us now lets just bloody get on with it. But it is quite ironic that the DA is not saying anything...maybe this is their chance at getting a black voter...just saying

      Jennifer - 2012-02-23 18:11

      NY1 and Verwoed must go. I wish it was done already.

  • Cy - 2012-02-23 12:55

    DA = ANC

      richard.hipkin - 2012-02-23 13:22

      Dog turd = Cy

  • Saffa - 2012-02-23 13:01

    Well I have a few suggestions....Schalk Burger Boulevard, Duane Vermeulen Drive etc etc etc. I shall certainly be attending a public meeting with my 2 cents.

      Byron - 2012-02-23 13:57

      Ricky Januarie Pass?

  • Moca - 2012-02-23 13:04

    the majority of the folk in the western cape are coloured, and im sure we can name it after some prominent figures in days gone by... definitly not street names like "skelme-boesak avenue", rasool-laan or Benni-dop-kop McCarthy circle. I was thinking more of Particia De Lille, Trevor manual, Salie Fredericks, Basil D'Oliviera (Dolly avenue sounds great), Cassiem Jabaar and Dr Abdurahman the latter being a medical Doctor, Cape Muslim leader & founder of the anti-apartheid movement, African People's Organisation and human rights campaigner.

      Forsythe - 2012-02-23 13:12

      saartjie baartman perhaps?

      stefan.vanderspuy - 2012-02-23 13:50

      Yeah I like Dolly avenue; sounds like a street where the prostitutes can gather.

      Moca - 2012-02-23 14:04

      yep, prozziez will gather even if its named Hendriena Verwoerd avenue..

      stevemoss4 - 2012-02-23 15:10

      I really dont see the need to change the names. but if it is really such a big need to change the name then change it to a place, animal, colour or whatever but not a bloody politician. Because 10 years down the line if we have a white or coloured president then do we need to change the names again? really stupid and a waste of money. although to a point i agree with you moca.

      John - 2012-02-24 09:42

      @stevemoss4 I don't think a coloured/white/indian/whatever government will waste money on renaming it then... Is an ANC thing. And they know it - "lets change them now - so we can say we actually achieved something"

  • Erasmus - 2012-02-23 13:07

    I think a couple of these streets do need changing. I actually had to go look up Jan Smuts Drive and only found out that a part of Durban Road is actually called Willie van Schoor. It's also high time that Hendrik Verwoerd gets renamed. And yes, I'm a Afrikaner that is proud of my heritage, just not such a big fan of the "ou omies in khaki".

      stevemoss4 - 2012-02-23 15:16

      lol @ ou omies in khaki. whatever our heritage may be its still our heritage. changing our street names to hide our pass is stupid and then we might as well make heritage day a normal working day and forget everything that the old man(Nelson Mandela) has done for our country. and we should be ashamed of ourselves.

      chibase - 2012-02-24 21:51

      Give that man a bells

  • paul.maarman - 2012-02-23 13:11

    about time...step in the right direction. hopefully louis botha statue, at the entrance of parliament, will be the next to be replaced. while they at it, cecil john rhodes can be melted down as well...

      Saffa - 2012-02-23 13:44

      Nooooooooo @Paul. The birds still need a place to sh#t.

      paul.maarman - 2012-02-23 16:11

      @saffa LOL good one! all the better on new ones lol!!

  • Olivia - 2012-02-23 13:13

    Our government surely has money to throw in the water. We don't have unemployment, health care doesn't lack any resources and education is some of the best in the world. I must be living in Nirvana.

  • Dalai - 2012-02-23 13:15

    I rename my 1972 Toyota Corolla a Ferrarri!

      Sheik - 2012-02-23 14:37

      And everyone still sees a Toyota, the same with street and place name changes.

  • Dalai - 2012-02-23 13:16

    YOU CAN BEE WHAT YOU WANT TO BEE AS LONG AS YOU ARE BLACK!

      Sheik - 2012-02-23 14:41

      Don't you just love the new street name for Point Rd, Durban.(known for it's drugs and sex for sale). ANC must have spent many a night burning candles to get that one right. Ha Ha

  • Gail - 2012-02-23 13:16

    I think that 20 years on this is a pretty pointless exercise and just another money making racket for someone.

      Moca - 2012-02-23 13:26

      thats not what they said in 1948, back then it was not pointless, it was enforced. lets be on the right side of history and have a mixture of all names, cultures past and present, irrespective of political alliances and get it right once and for all....for our children's sake, and as long as corrupt officials dont make a buck out of it...

      Sheik - 2012-02-23 14:42

      At this rate there will be nothing to change.

  • renesongs - 2012-02-23 13:18

    "Stupid names and stupid faces abound al in all our public places" - Can't we have street names that that are non political so we don't have to change them every 10 years.

      Carlo - 2012-02-23 13:24

      Agreed - but look what happened to the Rand - That was changed from being Historical to Non Political Animals and now changed to Political History. They'll do what ever they want see?

      Sheik - 2012-02-23 14:43

      Point Rd was politically correct until they changed it.

  • terblanche1 - 2012-02-23 13:19

    It's all good as long as they don't change it to cumbersome ugly names like, Christiaan Barnard Street or Hellen Susman Bulevard as they've already done. Why even name it after a person? I have to say though Susman Bulevard would have been just fine, or Nelson Bulevard rather than the whole cumbersome name that just sounds horrid!

  • Soetdoring - 2012-02-23 13:20

    I'm against this name change rubbish, but this could be (and probably is) an attempt to get some more ANC votes. Zille knows very well that this move could cost her a few votes in favour of the FF+, but she can always ensure their support by incorporating them into her government.

      Vaal-Donkie - 2012-02-23 13:44

      I would actually prefer the FF+ getting more support in the Cape. It will make the whole thing more representative. I don't beleive any one party should ever be allowed to hve too much power, that includes the FF+ and DA.

  • terblanche1 - 2012-02-23 13:20

    Oh dear, I could have at least spelled Hellen's surname corectly...

  • Fritz Hollander - 2012-02-23 13:22

    change the corrupt goverment before you start changing streetnames thats been there for hundreds of years!! Names on streetsigns has nothing to do with apartheid !! Get over yourselves 456 !!!

  • Nlgga - 2012-02-23 13:23

    Good, Cape Town change all those nonsensical names ... The sooner we forget that all those names existed the better..Why should we have oppressor's names our streets??

      Vaal-Donkie - 2012-02-23 13:46

      Please explain to us who "NY1" was. I don't recall learning about him in history class.

      jaco.slabbert - 2012-02-23 14:43

      Mate, the name you use for your avatar points out exactly why your comment should be disregarded as drivel.

  • Vark - 2012-02-23 13:29

    So who was Jip de Jager and Willie van Schoor anyway? What was Vanguard and Landsdown's contribution to our unfortunate history? Why is NY1 offensive? All we hear is this must change and that must change - but we never hear why? The vast majority of us would prefer not be reminded of Verwoerd, but do we really want to be reminded of strings of revolutionaries for ever? Don't we have enough common history/culture that we can celebrate in our common street names without perpetually referring to the worst we have in common?

      Willie - 2012-02-23 13:35

      NY1 = native yard 1... pretty offensive and need to change. The rest, ah well, not going to stop it are we, so lets deal with it... Trust a DA government FAR more to change names than any of the other metro's. We are not exclusive in the Cape (althoughh someimes we think we are because its going so well)

      Gerhard - 2012-02-23 13:38

      Robert McBride Drive... It worked for Andrew Zondo in Amanzimtoti....

      Sheik - 2012-02-23 14:50

      Vark in ten years time you'll asking who that Thabo what's his name guy was, but you'll always will remember Verwoerd. That's History for you.

      Sheik - 2012-02-23 14:52

      At Willie, Thanks, now even if they change it, it was be embedded in my mind.

  • bobbi.pretorius - 2012-02-23 13:35

    If a hungry and homeless person begs on nelson Mandela Blvd, does it make him less hungry and homeless than if he begs on Hendrik Verwoerd Drive? What do you think such a person's priorities would be for the funds allocated to this "life-changing" exercise? Can't we move past window dressing and tackle some real issues for a change!

  • Ofentse - 2012-02-23 13:35

    what a waste of tax payer's money instead of rescuing already suffering factories in cpt and secure employment in that region they rather waste money on changing street name, I wonder how are this names offending to anyone sometimes when I look at my payslip I wonder what am i being TAX f for .

  • Sheik - 2012-02-23 13:37

    In Durban, the ANC had to scratch deep to find names for changing. They even had to use names from communist countries due to a shortage of Heroes.

      Craig - 2012-02-23 15:52

      lol,last time i was in durbs it was a joke,all these crossed-out names with replacements like dr.scooppooop sanzala mampara wara ,names so long it was ridiculous.im not sure what its like in durbs now but it was an absolute disgrace as to what its become.quite fitting actually that those names have been removed,if they were still alive they would have been embarrased to be assosciated with a dump like durban central.

  • Janita - 2012-02-23 13:41

    Why don't they spend money and time on more important issues, like education?

      Sheik - 2012-02-23 15:14

      Noooo, thats a waste of brain power.

  • Carlo - 2012-02-23 13:42

    Why not change the Name of the Country while you're at it! After all, it was named by Hendrik Verwoerd and the Apartheid Regime and the Afrikaner Nation. Please change it so that I don't have to live in shame with a name that is being desecrated..... I have a suggestion why not change it to the Democratic Republic of Mamparra.

      Vaal-Donkie - 2012-02-23 13:48

      I believe the Azanian People's Organization suggested we rename the country to Azania bck in the day. That way we won't only be near the top in crime statistics, but also during the olympic parade.

      Sheik - 2012-02-23 15:13

      At VAAL-DONKIE, You mean something like in "Nigeria", when you say the the name, you see Scam artist, drug dealers and crime. Good point.

      Vaal-Donkie - 2012-02-24 08:29

      yes and because "A" is the first letter of the alphabet, we'll be near the front at the olympics. If we make it AAzania, we can lead the whole procession.

  • Mo - 2012-02-23 13:46

    Here's an idea. If you wanna change it, change it to something general. Like "Lion Street", or "PC Lane", or "Cloud Drive". That way NO one is offended, and everyone gets their way. As soon as you keep bringing up Political figures, thats when tension creeps in. Avoid it completely. And to the black folk who want their names on streets for compensation: This is just gonna creep back later in future, which will waste even more money. So lets just do it right this time, and move on. If we name "Hendrik Verwoerd Drive" to "Rhino Avenue", would everyone be happy with that?

  • David - 2012-02-23 13:53

    WHAT A WAIST OF MONEY

      Mo - 2012-02-23 14:08

      *waste

  • pat.dickens2 - 2012-02-23 13:55

    The problem with changing street names is that it does not change history. In Germany for example, many of the old street names are stilled named after Nazis. The Germans, instead of sweeping the atrocities under the carpet, have retained these names to acknowledge their history, so that these names may serve as a reminder of an evil past and how they have evolved into a better present. In our country, where money is being stolen left right and center by greedy corrupt politicians, the public should be aware that this name changing is nothing more than a sham. It opens up opportunities for tender irregularities and for more money to be stolen from an already hard pressed tax payer. Should the money not rather be spent on education, health care and housing? Structures that are crumbling across the country? Things that actually matter? I am pretty sure if you asked any homeless, hungry and cold person if he wanted a meal, a Wendy house and a few blankets or if he wanted the name of some street changed the answer would be "Take your street naming and shove it. Give me shelter and food." But idle fat cats in Government are paid to think up ways of wasting money, not ways of addressing the needs of the country.

      Piet - 2012-02-23 14:03

      Africans can not retain any history, Everything must be destroyed, it is the African way

  • Nkulekweni - 2012-02-23 14:03

    If one of them, even just one is named Nelson Mandela drive/avenue/ road/ ect I will puke/hurl/throw up/be sick/hlanza. There are so many other deserving South Africans of all races whose contribution to the struggle has been erased from history.

      Martin - 2012-02-24 11:47

      There is already one.

  • jaco.slabbert - 2012-02-23 14:08

    How about "Wasteful Expenditure Ave" as a suggestion? Or maybe "Could Have Supplied Clean Water Rd"?

      Martin - 2012-02-24 11:49

      This morning in traffic: There has been an accident on the intersection between Arms-Deal Street and Jacob Zuma drive, with another pedestrian knocked down on Toi-Toi Avenue. Traffic is slow moving in RDP-Housing boulevard due to a truck that has fallen over. Drive safe, lead with your headlights on.

  • Ziona - 2012-02-23 14:24

    Spend the money on things that really need attention you idiots not re-naming streets who cares about street names!!!!!! What about our water crises?Uugrade and employ people to do better jobs at keeping those things up and running.

  • Russel - 2012-02-23 14:36

    Any ideas what the new names will be? Scenario...Vanguard Drive changes to Julius Avenue? How long before they are renaming our grandparents?

  • Sheik - 2012-02-23 15:02

    Can anyone help with a ANC hero who does'nt have a prison record, how has not been wanted or who will not be in jail soon for corruption.

      Sheik - 2012-02-23 15:06

      Asking this because I'm dreading driving down a Jacob Zuma Drive thinking of all the charges that were dropped so that he can have his name on a Garmin.

      Nkulekweni - 2012-02-24 09:17

      Sheik you and I are not on the same side but I do share your concern about driving down Jacob Zuma avenue. Please Capetonians make sure that this has no chance of happening.

  • amanda - 2012-02-23 15:28

    @ Francois - I couldnt agree more with you and does anyone think that the majority of citizens cares about streets being renamed. They would rather have the money invested in the community. It is just wasteful expenditure. Wake up DA you are following closely in the footsteps of the ANC. Please tell me what is wrong with the name Vanguard Road????

  • amanda - 2012-02-23 15:38

    Some of you people who are pro to changing names - be careful what you wish for, do you want to end up like Durban with over 100 streets being renamed and everyone driving around like lost farts, time petrol and tempers frayed is the result my friends!

  • clarenceaprice - 2012-02-23 15:38

    i just want to know why is VOORTREKKER ROAD not on the list and how can i get it on.

      Marilee de Vries - 2012-02-23 16:12

      really? you must be kidding me?!?!

  • koosterlaak - 2012-02-23 15:42

    Begs the question, do these idiots really know who Jan Smuts was, or what he meant to world statesmanship or why Vanguard Drive or Landsdowne Road were so named. The others I don't give a hoot about, but please there is history in South Africa pre 1994 however whitey it might be.

      Craig - 2012-02-23 16:12

      i think jan smuts even has a statue in england,hes also on a few street names in other countries,this was a highly educated and decorated man.the likes of zuma and malema would be a complete joke in comparison.try and erase history in our country ,you can only go so far,whats next,banning of history books,internet etc.?

  • DeonHeunis - 2012-02-23 15:43

    What's wrong with Jip de Jager Street, Willie van Schoor Drive, Vanguard Drive and Lansdowne Road? No reason to change these and a waste of our money. The others might have a political connection and I understand that a large majority of the people of South Africa finds it offensive. If it will help cure some of the wounds of our history then so be it.

  • amanda - 2012-02-23 15:44

    Someone in Durban lost the sale of his house because the road name was changed to "Trouble Mkize!" I think the road was previously named Marriot Road on the Berea. Lol.

  • Joan - 2012-02-23 15:49

    Surely this is not necessary. The money could be used to uplift the millions of poor people living below the line. I was under4 the impression that we were going to use the money for more necessary problems.Joan

  • Peggy - 2012-02-23 15:50

    When I drive down a street/road, I don't even think of the person who it was named after. I am sure lots of people don't. So why change the name? Oh but wait, we have a lot of money to waste on changing the names of streets and places rather than using it for fixing the roads, or using it for health or policing or... or.... etc. But then again with all the corruption in the country, it doesn't matter that money is being wasted. It's probably just a drop in the ocean compared to that.

  • alain.d.thomas - 2012-02-23 15:51

    Dont do it. I am from DBN, living in JHB and when I go back, I get lost

  • amanda - 2012-02-23 16:06

    Street name changes will only serve to divide us as a nation. Not unify us. How about some of these politicians waking up and rather offering positive alternatives to improving the lives of our communities. There is much that needs to be done.

  • Neil - 2012-02-23 16:11

    Hendrik Verwoerd Drive (Juju Drive), Jip de Jager Street(Bra Zuma Strip), Vanguard Drive (Umkhonto we Sizwe), Lansdowne Road (Luthuli House Road), Jan Smuts Drive (Smuts Ngonyama Drive), NY1 (eNWhyOne) in Gugulethu and Willie van Schoor Drive (Jabu Sipho Philemon JubJub Poloyatonki Drive)

  • Craig - 2012-02-23 16:18

    please can i tender for those signs,im happy to play a part in the new democratic s.a! say what? i dont qualify cos im white?oh dear...

  • justin.schonegevel - 2012-02-23 16:21

    Jan Smuts has a lot of good in his name not a bad man, he has a lot of history. In 2004 he was named by voters in a poll held by the South African Broadcasting Corporation (S.A.B.C.) as one of the top ten Greatest South Africans of all time. The final positions of the top ten were to be decided by a second round of voting, but the programme was taken off the air due to political controversy, and Nelson Mandela was given the number one spot based on the first round of voting. In the first round, Field Marshal Smuts came ninth.[4] If we replacing names then replace them with meaningful stuff that is not offensive to anyone. e.g Use Animals and Flora, water features and rivers etc.. why people. Mandela has a drive and I respect that, but we must not replace history but create history. Lets rename NY1 and the streets where the names will mean more..

  • Trevor - 2012-02-23 16:40

    Daar gaan...my GPS..... LOL... I'm going down Zulu Street...into Xhosa Avenue....and Passing Zuma road into Winni Street...till I get to Stompie close..into Malema "hidaway"....

      Jaco - 2012-02-24 09:01

      hahaha !

  • justin.schonegevel - 2012-02-23 16:43

    Jan Smuts. In May 1945, he represented South Africa in San Francisco at the drafting of the United Nations Charter. Just as he did in 1919, Smuts urged the delegates to create a powerful international body to preserve peace; he was determined that, unlike the League of Nations, the UN would have teeth. Smuts signed the Paris Peace Treaty, resolving the peace in Europe, thus becoming the solitary person who was a signatory of the treaties ending both the First and Second World Wars.