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Cape Town to claim damages from union

2011-08-17 09:14

Cape Town - The mayor of Cape Town, Patricia de Lille, on Wednesday called on the leader of the ANC in the city, Tony Ehrenreich, to support a claim for damages from striking municipal workers who went on a rampage in the city on Tuesday.

"This administration condemns the unacceptably high levels of reported violence, intimidation of non-striking workers and property damage by Samwu [SA Municipal Worker Union] workers during the strike," De Lille said.

"This administration respects the right of workers to strike as a fundamental labour right in our democracy. We do not respect the exploitation of those rights to cause damage and threaten others.

"I call on the leader of the opposition in the city council, councillor Tony Ehrenreich to join me in condemning illegal behaviour and to support the city claiming for damages from Samwu."

Looting, damage


The strikers, some wearing red Samwu shirts, looted from vendors, set plastic bins on fire and smashed the windows of vehicles as they protested for higher wages.

The city's main shopping avenue, Adderley Street, was left covered with litter and burned out bins on Tuesday.

A number of vendors who sell goods such as cosmetics, coffee, wallets and belts on the pavements of the street were unpacking goods they had tried to hide as the workers approached.

Shops on the street locked their doors as the workers, who were seen smashing the windows of vehicles, approached.

Parliament, near the top end of Adderley Street, was also cordoned off by the police.

Thirteen protesters were arrested and would be charged with public violence, police said.

Violence was also reported in other parts of the city, including in the suburb of Parow.

Samwu is demanding an 18% pay increase. The SA Local Government Association is offering 6%.

Ehrenreich, who leads the Congress of SA Trade Unions in the Western Cape, addressed the workers outside of the city's offices at the start of the strike on Monday.

CCTV footage


The city has warned striking municipal workers that it will take "whatever action is necessary" to protect its property.

De Lille said the city would review CCTV footage of the violence on Tuesday.

"The city will identify those employees who have acted in an unlawful manner against the safety of our employees, members of our community and public property," she said.

"Where we find evidence of criminal behaviour, we will consider instituting both disciplinary and possibly criminal charges against the offenders."

The city would also assess all damages to property by Samwu and its members.

"We shall reserve the right to claim these costs from Samwu as we have done in the past," De Lille said.

The strike is set to continue on Wednesday.

Holding unions liable

Opposition MPs have condemned the "pathetic and reckless" behaviour of the strikers.

"The Independent Democrats strongly condemns the pathetic and reckless behaviour of municipal workers embarking on strike action in Adderley Street," said Independent Democrats MP Sarah Paulse.

"It is unacceptable that private and public property is being destroyed and damaged by strikers."

Democratic Alliance MP Ian Ollis said the violent nature of the strike and the "malicious damage to property" added "renewed urgency" to a private member's bill that seeks to hold unions liable for the damage their members cause.

"At the meeting of the private member's legislative proposal committee, the DA will ask why it has taken so long for the committee to discuss the legislation we submitted in March," Ollis said.

"The DA supports and recognises the constitutional right to strike, but we deplore the violence, intimidation and destruction of private and state-owned property that has become a common feature of industrial action."

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Comments
  • ray - 2011-08-17 09:20

    Good for you,Patricia-hit them where it hurts!

      michaelx - 2011-08-17 09:27

      THIS TONY IS PURE POISON-REMEMBER HE IS GUTTER LOW....

      willieman - 2011-08-17 09:34

      That's the way to go,Ehrenreich must be a true leader he must stop the nonsense of telling us is not their members who trashed and looted.Take responsibilty Ehrenreich it is your members

      Kpt_Keyboard - 2011-08-17 09:35

      yes, with rubber bullets and a few water cannons. Shoot to injure!!! If you want to behave like a brainless barbaric animal, you should be treated like one!!!

      SAFFA-CAT - 2011-08-17 09:35

      @Tshepo - how do you know? Just look at the reactions YOUR 'thoughtless, drunken' ramblings generate?

      ZotBot - 2011-08-17 09:35

      South Africa doesn't need anarchy, we need order and governance. Sue the rioting unions who can't control their thug members. Take their money and hurt them financially so that they learn to respect the rule of law.

      karlkat - 2011-08-17 09:36

      Let the bastards pay. It's time that they are kept accountable for what they destroy. It is a sick culture the unions adapted and they do not condome such actions by their members. The guilty ones should be given 6 of the best with an sjambok until he start pissing in his pants....that will stuck in their minds forever

      Adams - 2011-08-17 09:46

      @tshepo.theidiot. - Speaking from experience I see!

      Kpt_Keyboard - 2011-08-17 10:01

      mmmm we got a new troll in da house??? is tbooze a new or old troll?

      Kpt_Keyboard - 2011-08-17 10:04

      tbooze why are you obsessed with the colour white?

      JohannV - 2011-08-17 10:10

      I guess TBooze is a new troll. They spawn spontaneously in the Cape Town sewers and head for the nearest internet cafe.

      Matt :-) - 2011-08-17 10:17

      @ tshepo.thetroll - just a question. What do you propose should be done then? Do you think it is GOOD for people to make unreasonable demands and then go riot? Vendors, do you think it is GOOD for your fellow black folk to be assaulted in the streets for no reason at all? Think brother, think - and if it hurts, pop round and I'll give you 2 Adcodols.

      Kpt_Keyboard - 2011-08-17 10:17

      whahaha, nice1!!!!!!!!!!

      Snys - 2011-08-17 10:27

      @TBOOZE...does your "bonking" means...raping? Asshole!!!!!!!!!

      jen - 2011-08-17 10:50

      @TBOOZE, did I miss a vital sentence in the above article. Is this article about cross cultural relationships (old news I'm afraid, I am the product of just such a relationship)or about vandalism by criminal striking workers.

      Meanleader - 2011-08-17 11:00

      @TBooze ...I'll tell you what is funny ....I didn't even have to tell my daughter to stay away from your kind , she stays away out of instinct ....probably the same instinct that drives dogs to bark at you ... Strange how nature is innit ?

      Aleg - 2011-08-17 11:02

      Yes, Patricia! Never afraid to speak up for what is right. No doubt Ehrenreich will find some excuse for the hooligan behaviour, having made his money within the trade union hierarchy. His basic take home pay AFTER tax and deductions was R22,000 per month (http://www.iol.co.za/news/south-africa/western-cape/tony-will-work-for-mechanic-s-pay-1.1039446). Of course, when union officials are away from home on union business, all their expenses are covered, they get spending money & they get to stay in top class accommodation. No doubt, it is very lucrative to work for the unions, as every time their members get an increase, so do they. The shop keepers and vendors whose businesses were damaged and looted, I hope that they too will be compensated. These people have exercised their entrepreneurial skills and hard work to make a living, unprotected by 'sheltered employment'. The unions who organize the strikes should be responsible for all damage and loss of income. The union leaders should be made to clean up the mess that their members make, then perhaps if there is a strike in future, it will be conducted in a peaceful and orderly manner. When the strikers march through the city, they should not be allowed to carry anything that could be used as a weapon - i.e. big sticks, bottles, etc. In this so called democratic country, why shouldn't citizens/taxpayers footing the bill be given a say in whether the municipal workers deserve this increase - are we getting what we pay for?

      Audacious12 - 2011-08-17 12:43

      Just so you know, there it is law that the unions have to pay damages where it can be proven that their members are liable.

      farmworker - 2011-08-17 15:22

      Don't outgrow yourself Patricia, how can you cut the hand that feed you. We have voted you in and we will vote you out

      Aleg - 2011-08-18 07:54

      @Audacious 12 - Thank you for that info. Do you know how victims can go about getting compensation? During the last security guards strike I know of two guards who were killed in Cape Town. One had only been employed for about 3 months after struggling to find work and was scared that he would lose his job. Can his wife and little children claim compensation from the union? In another instance strikers after mistaking a home nurse, who wears a black uniform similar to that of a security guard, burnt down her home and all that she and her family were left with was the clothing they were wearing that day. Do you think the union will also compensate her family for all that they lost? Do you think that non-strikers who get beaten up by striking workers can also claim compensation? I am sure that victims will appreciate any information as to how to go about claiming recompense.

  • Matt :-) - 2011-08-17 09:20

    I'd call for the strikers to be fired + jailed, but hey a damages suit is a start I guess

  • Rhowen - 2011-08-17 09:22

    Also have these unions on a point system and when all their points are lost, they are not allowed to strike anymore. How else do we control this?

      TBOOZE - 2011-08-17 09:40

      in zimbabwe that happens

      mobiles - 2011-08-17 14:17

      @ TBOOZE- Soon we`ll be worse than Zimbabwe , then you`ll cry even more because you leaders simply don`t give a f@ck !!

      TBOOZE - 2011-08-17 15:15

      As if the previous apartheid leaders cared

      ChumScrubber - 2011-08-18 16:41

      So TBOOZE, you want to copy the apartheid regime? Weird, I thought you okes got rid of them cause you did not like the way they did things. To be a bit more accurate though, the apartheid regime was very effective - unlike the current bunch of looters.

  • happygolucky - 2011-08-17 09:23

    GOOD!!!

  • MTRJ - 2011-08-17 09:24

    Why not fire the whole damn lot and appoint people that WANT to work??? The next time the waste removal guys come around to my house and asks me for a Christmas box, they can shove off!

      Matt :-) - 2011-08-17 09:26

      Do they still do that? I've never had anyone come round in SA for Xmas. Just as well because I'd tell them to "go away". Strike for weeks, let the bins pile up, empty them on the streets and then expect a bonus??!! F them!!!

      MTRJ - 2011-08-17 09:34

      Exactly. I bet they don't think further than the next day OR they got the attention span of a goldfish, because how can you the one day plunder and steal from people, and the next ask them for something?

  • South_Africa - 2011-08-17 09:24

    Well done Patricia!

  • unrealchris - 2011-08-17 09:25

    Well done DA! Well done! At least a DA run metro who is not afraid of the unions! This type of behaviour belongs in the dark ages, and just maybe the DA is the one to pull these poeple out of those ages

  • Marulaneng - 2011-08-17 09:25

    someone must teach these useless bunch a lesson. Teach them Patricia!

  • Spaffy - 2011-08-17 09:25

    LOL excellent. Nice work DA

  • Koos Poggenpoel - 2011-08-17 09:26

    The behaviour of these animals is unacceptable and the union MUST foot the bill if they are unable to control their members. If a member is identified, criminal charges must be made again them and hit to the fullest extend by the law. This is unacceptable

      willieman - 2011-08-17 09:35

      Please do not insult animals

      charley - 2011-08-17 13:43

      I don't think it should be proved that it's a union member doing the destruction. It's up to the unions to make sure that any person taking part in the strike, whether a union member or not, does not damage property. Hit them hard in their pockets and the next there is a strike, union management will be there, side by side with the workers making sure it's a peaceful march, (yeah in your dreams).

  • Lily - 2011-08-17 09:27

    Yes, why should our tax money cover damages?? And they should also be charged with vandalism and public destruction as well as violence. Then maybe the unions would keep their workers under control and think twice before they strike.

  • Hochang - 2011-08-17 09:30

    I bet 50 bucks that the ANC and Cosatu( Tony Erneriecher) will not condemn the behavior or support the claim.

      RFreeThinker - 2011-08-17 20:58

      Agree. It depends on which union was guilty though, if it's ANC affiliated - then they won't. If it was independent or DA/COPE then sure they would be the first to condemn this.

  • Virginia - 2011-08-17 09:31

    @ Jer1 and John Wilderness, how can you want to work constructively with people who think like this. This has got nothing to do with racialism on the part of the commentors, this is blatant thuggery and vandalism by people whom have no respect for anything. We have this type of behavior in all our cultures and something has to be done about their behavior.

      Meanleader - 2011-08-17 11:09

      All the m0nkey commentators try to pull the race card when they get bollocked for their bab00n behaviour . Standard practice for bl@cks . Makes dialog impossible when the fixations of the accademically dissappointed turn in such tight circles around race ... as a defence of the neanderthal culture .

  • sim - 2011-08-17 09:33

    i agree whole heartedly its time for accountability!why mmust we ratepayers pay for cleaning up the damages.this is not striking but rioting big difference.

  • DivaD - 2011-08-17 09:34

    What about having bibs with numbers on each striking member? Like joggers taking part in a race. All "official" bib warers register with ID/Address details. No bib, no strike. And non-warers can be removed from the crowd at check points. That way it should be easier to isolate any problem makers.

      Wayne - 2011-08-17 10:07

      Brilliant!!!

      Orcanda - 2011-08-17 13:45

      DivaD yes they will do that just to take it off around the corner and burn it. Wont work

      Fred - 2011-08-17 15:19

      It wont work if you don't give it a try. I think its a good idea.

  • Janbantjies - 2011-08-17 09:38

    Tony Ehrenreich!!!??? Rather ask the devil to bless you.

      daaivark - 2011-08-17 09:52

      You give the man too much credit. He is too useless even to be a devil.

      mobiles - 2011-08-17 14:19

      Ehrenreich wants things to go wrong in CPT , so he can blame the DA !

      JustinD - 2011-08-17 14:46

      Agreed, Tony is a cancer all by himself.

      Aristotle - 2011-08-17 21:05

      To think that Ehrenreich actually stood for Mayor in this Province. has the man NO SHAME ????????

  • Mad Man - 2011-08-17 09:38

    MY question is this: Why was CT worst hit by the strikers? Why have we not heard about Joburg, Pretoria, Durban, etc experiencing similar levels of violence? I think that due to the fact that the DA runs CT, the Strikers there were told to do this. By whom? Probably the ANC, Cosatu, Samwu leaders. They cannot accept that CT will never be theirs again. This also just makes the voters in the Cape more supportive of the DA and it will let more voters in the rest of the country see that the DA is the party who is trying to improve the lives of the people, unlike the ANC who only improves the lives of there very own elite! VIVA DA!!

      ConcernedMom - 2011-08-17 12:42

      Or the Gauteng strikers were getting too cold to come out

      RFreeThinker - 2011-08-17 20:59

      ConcernedMom: In Spain they're cancelling protests because of the summer and protesters want to go to the beach. I'm not kidding.

      Aristotle - 2011-08-17 21:09

      Maybe its time to seriously consider moving this "TRASH" out of our Province and sending them back to where they came from originally? Like North of our borders? Bring back the days pre 1994, where we were safe to walk the street, and leave our homes unlocked. Looters like those that stole from and trashed the stands of the vendors in the City and its hard working people would be shot and killed in any civilised Country!

      ChumScrubber - 2011-08-18 16:45

      Exactly Mad Man, these okes are at a loss as to what to do to get rid of the DA in Cape Town. They know they can't do it by outperforming them, so they are trying to use force. The whole thing is political. Disgusting.

  • Sisie - 2011-08-17 09:40

    Please! Tony Ehrenreich would rather destroy CT and then blame it all on the DA. He is a very bitter man indeed. And after all as with ANC policy "the responsibility is not ours". When you have no moral code or ethics it is easier to blame the blameless.

      Barbara - 2011-08-17 11:56

      The ANC would rather - just like Mugabe in Zimb. destroy this country - than accept that EVERYONE who lives in it, has equal rights to a fair, just and peaceful society. WHAT IS THE MATTER with our people? In the past, we have been known worldwide for our innovations, inventiveness, willingness to pull-together and "maak 'n plan" but today, politics and the wealth and influence that it brings overpowers everthing. Look how things are changing with Malema - he's into the wealth and power game now, and has little interest or time to worry about his so-called "constitutients" and yet these foolish people continue to follow him no matter how corrupt he is and how rich he becomes, despite his statement that he is for the poor. Why has no one the ability to see when they are being taken for a ride?

  • Sarah - 2011-08-17 09:40

    Out of a matter of principal, they should now not be awarded any wage increase after all. You can't reward bad behaviour!

      rissirobson - 2011-08-17 12:21

      I think that the funds that WOULD have gone towards wage increases should be appropriated for repairs. Only fair... I have to pay 'white tax' to make reparations... why shouldn't these pigs pay 'trashing the city tax?'

      reader4444@24.com - 2011-08-17 13:05

      to rissirobson: excellent solution. Hit them (and their children) where it hurts the most. These are the very people who would probably donner their kids for being cheeky. Now turn the tables on them. They have disrespected our city; there must be retribution.

      Aristotle - 2011-08-17 21:11

      Good point Sarah, but it ain't gonna work in THIS Country, mores the pity.

      TaniaSandraSteyn - 2011-08-18 05:07

      Spanner in the works: not everybody on strike behaved badly. They have a legitimate call for a wage increase, but the Union placed the ball way outside the park. I have marched with SATAWU in the past - when I thought the cause was was worth it. I was shocked to see how they brainwashed their members - two months without salary over Xmas, and the Union Reps only made an appearance in January. The Union leaders are in cahoots with Management. Very few represent the shop floor.

  • daaivark - 2011-08-17 09:45

    TBOOZE (Telling name) and tshepo who claims to be a man: You guys sound like parrots. You've learned your leaflets well. Good for you. As for Tony nul-op-'n-kontrak Ehrenreich: waiting for this pathetic puppet to do anything constructive may just keep you tied down forever. The man is completely unable to think for himself.

      Matt :-) - 2011-08-17 10:20

      Those commentators don't think bud. They just have blinkers on, hating anything Helen Zille does, whether it's good or not. Seeing street vendors (usually black like them) being assaulted just because they're there, smashing things, that's apparently OK with them - but Zille taking action, ooh how DARE she... I just don't get the mentality!

      mobiles - 2011-08-17 14:23

      @ Matt - What mentality , they have no mentality :)

      ChumScrubber - 2011-08-18 16:48

      He is very good at thinking OF himself though. As mentioned earlier by someone - these unions take a percentage of workers salaries - so a worker increase means an increase for their fat pockets - I wonder why they actually encourage these strikes, is it really for worker rights?

  • upsolomon - 2011-08-17 09:45

    After what we saw in the news yesterday, Its only fair that SAMWU be taken to task over this. And why looting Vendors, They are also struggling to make a living.

  • Justfred - 2011-08-17 09:46

    You've got my vote Patricia!

  • lollie sue - 2011-08-17 09:46

    Good work Patricia, but the workers should be charged with vandalism as well as violence, and the money should be deducted from their salaries for damages, six months with no pay.

  • Podgette - 2011-08-17 09:46

    Good, time these bullies pay for their actions! You don't have to make a mess and detroy things just because you striking!

  • Tlnb - 2011-08-17 09:48

    If the football clubs have to pay fines for damage caused by it supporter than the unions should also be held accountable for the action of its member in a sanctioned union approved strike.

  • Hmfffffff - 2011-08-17 09:53

    YES YES YES YES!!!!! The best decision ever, this is the only way the voilence and looting will come to an end. The unions MUST be held ACCOUNTABLE and RESPONSIBLE for the behaviour of the members. Furthermore the footage of such events should be sent to the employer of the person who resort to this behaviour for further action. They should be fired so that they can understand that there are consequences to your actions and they need to held accountable for the decision the make. PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE our Dearest Mayor, GO AHEAD WITH THIS.

  • juanita.nysschen - 2011-08-17 09:56

    High five Patricia!

  • Mike or Mpho - 2011-08-17 09:56

    ANC, take note, this is how you run municipalities and this is how you deal with unions! Watch and learn. well done Ms De Lille, and well done DA. Once again, you guys are the light in the the storm.

  • Zebedi - 2011-08-17 10:00

    News24, when you allow racist halfwits like tshepo.theman and TBOOZE to spew their racist bile on your forums, you are alienating a large percent of readers who might have something constructive to say.As for me, now I just close the tab and go read IOL news or some other online offering. It is not worth the rise in blood pressure I feel when I read news24 blogs.

      Harry1 - 2011-08-17 10:07

      Yip. The comments section seems to be turning into a 'I hate you, you hate me' competition.

      Matt :-) - 2011-08-17 10:22

      Agreed Zebedi. I don't understand News24's policies. When some commentators are having a (generally) civil debate, stuff gets deleted. When someone refers to a naughty word without actually saying it, it gets deleted. But racial and religious hatred, they never get deleted. I have even reported very hateful and hurtful comments which don't get deleted... huh?!

  • willieman - 2011-08-17 10:00

    @ tshepo.theman,real men do not insult women.It is high time you start to think for yourself.You can see how bloggers react to your statement.That should tell you that you have really stooped and you have invited some racist comments 'cause you fail to debate rationally

  • Madelane - 2011-08-17 10:01

    About time that the communist inspired Union violence and destruction is addressed and the Unions brought to book. The Union leaders should be held personally responsible as they are the ones that instigate the intimidation in the first place. Patricia, I do believe you have the support of many in this country who are tired of the negative attitudes.

  • Mathaithai - 2011-08-17 10:03

    I only see blacks toyi-toying! where are their white counterparts? Or only blacks are the ones to collect trsh? Maybe they are trash. The claim that WC is the well governed province appears to be true as I see that most of the strikers are in the WC where it is a lilly white enclave.

      Orcanda - 2011-08-17 13:51

      Another racist troll

  • Jaco Steyn - 2011-08-17 10:03

    I agree. They have the right to strike but this is getting ridicules. Striking has become a business for the Unions! They higher the increase the more money the union gets! So they as for 18% (which is insane) and then when the answer is no they strike! So the employer loses money... the employee loses money! They Unions are the only winners! The way a stike is conducted should change. You have the right to strike but the Unions should be responsible for their members lost of income and if any person get hurt or damage was cause during the Unions strike action they must be held accountable for the mess! No questions asked! None of this...."sorry it wasn't our members"! If it happen during your strike its your problem. They main purpose of a strike is to cause "economic pain" so the Unions should carry some of the burden as well.

  • TheSteve - 2011-08-17 10:06

    I have long advovated a system that when strike licsence is issued, the union be required to pay a deposit double what potential damages may be. I also like the idea of point system where unions that con not control there workers pay damages for all reported loses and alos may lose the right to strike for a period of time. I really fell for the poor vendors who lost thousands of rands thru theft. To conclude damages and points should also never override the fact that striking workers also fell the full weight of the law when damaging or stealing during a strike.

  • Bryce_CPT - 2011-08-17 10:06

    There are so many people begging for jobs in CT. Then you get these “people” who just want to do F’all and just sit on their asses with their hands out and get money like the common beggar. I say fire the whole lot of them and give their jobs to the people who really need it. Then they will think twice before running amok like savages. If all else fails, do what the Taiwanese government did in 1976 and just shoot the bastards!

  • Mart - 2011-08-17 10:07

    This use of intimidation, destruction of property and violence during these strikes is 'terrorism'. Wikipedia defines terrorism as...'The use of violence and intimidation in the pursuit of political aims'. If it can be proved that a trade union is in an alliance with a political party then it must, in my opinion, be seen as terrorism because these actions exceed the bounds of what is legally permitted during strike action. Once the protestors, and by mere association the Unions, cross the line between what is legally and socially acceptable and destruction and violence, they must be charged with terrorism. The public and many thousands of workers are being terrorised by these thugs (and our economy)....let's arrest them and throw the charges and penalties associated with terrorism at them.

  • allows - 2011-08-17 10:08

    Why don't the unions take note of what happened to the once "Great" Britain when the unions where "running" that country. ALL major British car manufaturers, Boeing, etc. etc. where left almost bankrupt because of the unions. They are now owned by other major countries. Catch a wake up Tony!! The same will happen here.

      Matt :-) - 2011-08-17 10:24

      What do you mean "almost" bankrupt, lol... UK no longer HAS a British car manufacturer! Any UK car make you can think of is owned by foreigners who bailed them out...

  • Hubbles - 2011-08-17 10:09

    Mr Ehrenreich, come out and have the balls to condemn your followers. My guess is you too Sxxt scared too, because you are a yello bellied liar.

  • Mlu - 2011-08-17 10:19

    That's the way to go Pat de Licious. It is about time somone stood against anarchy, illdiscipline and lack of self-discipline. These city thrashers call themselves patriots but they destroy the country all the same.

  • s r - 2011-08-17 10:20

    you go girl! show these f*ckers that we are not going to stick their barbaric sh*t any longer...

  • Michelle - 2011-08-17 10:23

    Excellent - my sentiments exactly. In fact strikers should not be allowed to walk down streets can prevent other users using that street. Strkers should only be allowed to have sit-ins at their place of work.

  • John D - 2011-08-17 10:23

    Refuse collection in SA is currently done by a truck and 5 or 6 hangers on.In Australia every household has a wheelie bin and collection is done by just a driver and a truck with a mechanical arm that empties the wheelie bins into the back of the truck, it clears the bins in a street in 5 minutes and is highly efficient. Workers need to understand that technology is available to replace them at a fraction of the cost and they should look after their jobs and not behave like idiots. If the municipalities decide to keep doing their bit towards unemployment and keep the labour intensive collection process, they definitely must pay the workers a living wage but they dont need to be held to ransom by the unions as there are alternatives.

      Matt :-) - 2011-08-17 11:10

      In the UK it's scary... you have 2 bins to separate normal rubbish from organic rubbish, plus an open box for paper. They go through your bins to see what's inside, and if you accidentally threw a letter in the normal rubish (for example), you get fined. If you don't take your bin off the road quickly enough, or put it out too early, you get fined. But the funniest of all... the open box to put your paperwork in. You have to leave it outside for them to fetch. The first gust of wind and your paperwork is on the road. But the binmen CANNOT pick it up as it goes against health and safety... so they just leave it there to litter the street. Fine for littering = £75... they're thinking up all kinds of proposals, like fining you for having too much rubbish... What to do, what to do... well, some will dump their stuff in a bush to avoid the fines...

      Mad Man - 2011-08-17 11:22

      In Australia the chances that someone will steal your wheelie bin is basically zero, whereas in good old SA, you will be buying a new wheelie bin every other week. I speak from personal experience, as I have had 2 wheelie bins stolen, and I had to replace them at my own cost even though the municipality "allocates" you with the bins.

      John D - 2011-08-17 11:40

      You are right Mad Man, not perfect for crime ridden SA but the technology is available. In Aus you also pump your own petrol and then go inside the shop to pay, imagine that hapopening here, the petrol stations would be bankrupt in a week.

  • BraBob - 2011-08-17 10:26

    Patricia, I hope you succeed. That will set a president for the unions to be brought to justice for their members behaving like animals. It is time that the unions get shown that they actually do not rule the country

  • mo-man - 2011-08-17 10:34

    Skryf uit daai tjek Tony.....jou lae luis!!

  • DanteCampbell - 2011-08-17 10:40

    You know I do not normally stoop to this level but I understand where Hitler was coming from, his morals were questionable and he implemented his system in the wrong way but I do understand his ideas. Sometimes I wonder if we should not implement those kind of extreme measures to curb the undesirables in our country.

  • Francois - 2011-08-17 10:40

    Madam Mayor, since I voted you in to power, I am quite shocked at your statement. What exactly is an acceptable level of violence, intimidation and destruction of property. Is there a sliding scale as too how many dustbins were burned or car windows smashed when it moves from acceptable to unacceptable? Please elaborate! "This administration condemns the unacceptably high levels of reported violence, intimidation of non-striking workers and property damage by Samwu [SA Municipal Worker Union] workers during the strike," De Lille said.

  • SAFan - 2011-08-17 10:59

    Lets see if Tony has any balls at all....I doubt it, he spends all his time looking for faults without offering any logical solutions !!

  • JustinX - 2011-08-17 11:00

    ABOUT TIME!! GIVE IT TO 'EM!

  • clintas - 2011-08-17 11:11

    nothing will come of this..there is no justice, when i hear politicians talk, all i see are puppets with moving parts.

  • nazeem.aberdeen - 2011-08-17 11:14

    Why do they loot and spread garbage. They will only have to pick it up themselves later, which gives them more work to do. Does anyone see the irony here?