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Cape lesbian killers get 18 years

2012-02-01 11:29

Cape Town - Four men were jailed for 18 years on Wednesday for stabbing and stoning 19-year-old lesbian Zoliswa Nkonyana to death in 2006.

Lubabalo Ntlabathi, Sicelo Mase, Luyanda Londzi and Mbulelo Damba were sentenced by the Khayelitsha Regional Court to 18 years, four of which were suspended for five years.

A crowd outside the court cheered, sang, raised their fists and danced when news came that the men had been sentenced.

The National Prosecuting Authority had asked for the men to be sentenced to 15 years each.

"We asked the presiding officer to sentence the men to no less than 15 years in prison as they committed a heinous crime, killed a young woman because she was living openly as a lesbian, never showed any remorse or accepted responsibility for what they have done," NPA spokesperson Eric Ntabazalila said.

"Only their parents apologised on their behalf and we believe rehabilitation stands a small chance of being achieved."

The men were found to have killed Nkonyana because she was openly living as a lesbian.

Another five accused were acquitted.

Comments
  • Vegi - 2012-02-01 11:54

    Why only 18 years. This matter should have even been transferred to High Court so that a life sentence is imposed. This is just another foible by our justice system.

      rbphiri - 2012-02-01 12:10

      That sentence is the same as giving them a vacation to jail, where they get hot water, free cable, a hot meal and a free bed, all paid for by us the caring tax payers. Our judicial system is flawed, Oooh how I long for the dark ages where murders would be sent to the gallows.

      lebo.lathane - 2012-02-01 12:13

      Quite right Vegi. And why the NPA only asked for 15 years (for such a crime) is truly beyond comprehension. These inconsistencies by our criminal justice system leave a lot to be desired. And how about punishment that fits the crime. Come on now!

      Monique - 2012-02-01 12:27

      Wow, you can comment well if you want to, ne?

      Anthony - 2012-02-01 12:36

      Much too short, it's an insult to the gay community. At the very least; Life imprisonment !!!

      Michael - 2012-02-01 12:40

      Hopefully they spend their entire sentence in jail unlike the Waterkloof rugby players who were sentenced to 15 years but only spent 2 years. Scot free!

      Hotkop - 2012-02-01 12:42

      So if I start killing at 18, get out at 36, kill again and get out at 54, kill again and get out at 72 and kill again. 4 people killed in my lifetime.

  • Stan - 2012-02-01 11:55

    How come? "Rhino poachers get 25 years each" and "Cape lesbian killers get 18 years" ... I'm perplexed...

      Stan - 2012-02-01 12:15

      @Balstrome, are you for real? I can't believe there are people like you out there.

      Vegi - 2012-02-01 12:16

      Good point. It just shows the fallibility of the people entrusted with meting out justice. On what basis is poaching more serious than taking human life, considering that people are allowed to hunt and kill rhinos if they have been issued with permits. This shows that even the presiding officers can harbour inner prejudices against people of different sexual persuasions, thus mete out ridiculous sentences like this one which betray their low regard of the victim's choosen way of life. This judgment is disgusting.

      J-Man - 2012-02-01 12:22

      Agree. Pathetic.

      Felix - 2012-02-01 12:38

      Either Vegi got tired of trollin or someones hacked his account.

      Anthony - 2012-02-01 12:40

      @Balstrome, I wish you were a RHINO, and someone wanted your horns !!!!

      Anthony - 2012-02-01 13:10

      @Balstrome, Yes, it is better you run, you are an embarrassment !!

  • ivan.coetzee2 - 2012-02-01 11:56

    Hah and when they get inside the prison, they themselves will be having same sex intercourse which is "GAY"!!! EISHHH, Should have been given a year for every year of her life till the age she would have been today, sick bastards!!

  • rbphiri - 2012-02-01 11:56

    Good verdict but the sentence should've been a lengthy one. They are homophobes, well in all irony they are going to be women in prison.

  • Hermann - 2012-02-01 12:00

    Is that all??

  • chris.piro2 - 2012-02-01 12:00

    I hope they will learn a lesson to say sorry when you done something wrong

      rbphiri - 2012-02-01 12:06

      Sorry! how the hell can u say sorry for murder! hell no words can cushion the impact of murder...the best they can do is ask the judge for an even lengthier sentence or to bring back the death penalty just for that case. Sorry is nothing...sorry is merely a four letter word with a y at the end.

  • zmbova - 2012-02-01 12:00

    How about life sentence?

  • Mhlophe - 2012-02-01 12:01

    Good, now you get to have a homosexual lifestyle for next 18 years. Will you stone and stab yourselves?

      Elizabeth - 2012-02-01 14:22

      pappa wag vir jou

  • TheSkepticDetective - 2012-02-01 12:03

    How is it possible that this country's legal system can be so messed up? These awful bastards murdered a woman in cold blood and they get 14 years in jail, whereas we sentence rhino poachers to 25 years in jail? Why are our priorities so backwards. Sure, there are fewer rhino's in the world than women, but it takes a mind far more dysfunctional to kill a woman. It is the worse crime. I am ashamed.

      Vegi - 2012-02-01 12:18

      This sentence is disgusting and the presiding officer should be ashamed of himself for doing such a shoddy piece of work.

      Rob - 2012-02-01 12:53

      Hey I am not qualified to do more than skinner on this topic. Is part of the mess up due to so much being at the discretion of the judiciary?

      TheSkepticDetective - 2012-02-01 13:41

      I think it is more likely to be linked to politically emotive topics. Rhinos are hot right now. It's at the top of our collective consciousness. The judge is probably susceptible to this pressure.

  • Neil - 2012-02-01 12:04

    Our justice system is weak! They get 18 years and the rhino poachers get 25?? They should all get life sentences!!

  • Sharon - 2012-02-01 12:05

    Good now they will know what it is like to be raped, but why only 18yrs ???

  • Rob - 2012-02-01 12:08

    It is all very well having a liberal approach when there is a reasonable chance that a criminal can be rehabilitated, but what is the point when there is not such a reasonable chance. Of course a 'reasonable chance' depends on more than the individual, it also includes the capacity and will of the rehabilitation system. In a country that is unlikely to develop the capacity and will to rehabilitate such criminals and where one can speculate on just who in public office is a criminal, I say ang them, maybe even publicly! Sure the occasional mistake will be made, but under these circumstances (not the more socially effective situations existant in other countries) how else can an effective deterrent be established?

      Rob - 2012-02-01 12:54

      Will the thumbs down contribute, or hide?

      TheSkepticDetective - 2012-02-01 13:44

      I thumbs-downed because I don't think the death penalty should EVER be reinstated and am very happy to live in a country where this is guaranteed by our constitution. Additionally, Rob's assertion that we should institute the death penalty because we aren't committed to rehabilitation is absurd.

      Rob - 2012-02-01 14:26

      SkepticDetective: Thanks for responding. You may be correct that there are some people committed to rehabilitation (how many is a mute point). But that was not what I said. My comment referred not to lack of commitment on the part of some, but rather that the country is unlikely to develop the capacity and will to rehabilitate. Examples to support my contention are many.....Still, you really are entitled to your opinion. In fact, in principle, I share the same view, but the context here is not the same as it is in countries where such views are sustainable.

      TheSkepticDetective - 2012-02-01 14:44

      I agree that our justice system would be more just if it could rehabilitate offenders effectively. But I'm pretty sure I didn't misunderstand your comment. You said "In a country that is unlikely to develop the capacity and will to rehabilitate such criminals... I say ang them, maybe even publicly!" That's an easy statement to understand, we can't rehabilitate so reinstate the death penalty. This is a non sequitur. Your conclusion is not supported by your premise. Surely, we should conclude that the justice system should intensify rehab , for those who can be rehabilitated, and enforce stricter terms for those who cannot, rather than jumping straight to capital punishment?

      Rob - 2012-02-01 15:19

      SkeptidDecective: In brief I am saying that the judiciary and social systems in this country have degenerated to the point that they offer little or no hope for rehabilitation. I take your point about my suggestion being extreme (my words), but I don't agree that my statement is a non sequitur. But now we seem to have established two extremes, one being unworkable, the other being unacceptable...what now? That needs to be answered because, in my opinion, the current situation, in all of it's aspects, is a prime cause of the high levels of crime and violence. Just how do deter in the short term so that you buy time to educate and socialise in the long term. What can be an effective deterrent...and please don't quote the references to the death penalty being ineffective, there are just as many that say it is effective, and most of the work has been done in a country where social values are not so under threat as they are in SA...

      TheSkepticDetective - 2012-02-01 16:46

      If I knew the answer to that Rob, I wouldn't be here debating it with you, I'd be working my butt off to make it happen. We are on the same page though, something has to change.

  • Ian - 2012-02-01 12:08

    dammit, the bastards should have been hung and it should have taken 18 minutes, make the runts suffer

  • Charlie - 2012-02-01 12:12

    Not by far enough, but it's a start...

  • pumza.n.mali - 2012-02-01 12:28

    They should have received life in prison ,,,South African law needs to come hard on these people who think its okay to hurt someone because of their sexuality... No one has a right to judge someone .

  • braamc - 2012-02-01 12:30

    Five years later they get 18 years and will probably sit for 5 years. Not right.

  • Perfume5 - 2012-02-01 12:30

    18yrs, the court was too lenient!!!

  • Sechaba - 2012-02-01 12:33

    why not life???

  • march54 - 2012-02-01 12:36

    I am astounded that out of all the words that could be used to describe Zoliswa Nkonyana the word lesbian was the choice consistently used. She was a daughter,a grandchild,a sister, a cousin and a friend but MOST of all she was a WOMAN. Why just use the label lesbian? I do not believe 18 years for killing a woman is enough. 6 years to bring closure to her family and friends is inexcusable.

      Jeffrey - 2012-02-01 12:44

      The word Lesbian was used repeatedly because of the fact that she was killed for being one. She wasn't killed for any other aspect of her femininity. However, the least they should have got was a life sentence without parole. Murdering scum the lot of them.

      march54 - 2012-02-01 13:17

      @ Jeffery I know that they killed her for being lesbian but the press have lost sight of all the victim was. That 4 men have to kill a woman who did them no harm is inexcusable. A show of cowardice against some one who is different to them.

  • Lauren - 2012-02-01 12:37

    18 years only!?! What do you need to do in order to be imprisoned for life? I would hate to know. This is shocking.

  • Sipho - 2012-02-01 12:41

    I Say BRING BACK THE DEATH PENALTY!

      Sipho - 2012-02-01 12:48

      there are MORE THAN 18,000 murders a year in South Africa. That means there are 18,000 killers walking around with too few police looking for them. These criminals don't respect any form of life at all, INCLUDING THEIR OWN! All the other solutions have failed, so hang them, shoot them, inject them ... you will soon see a huge drop in crime!

      Rob - 2012-02-01 12:56

      Will the thumbs downer contribute or hide?

  • Carol - 2012-02-01 12:42

    At last. This has been going on for years.

  • Stephen - 2012-02-01 12:43

    can't we just hang these bastards, why does my income tax have to feed them for the nexr 18 years.

      Rob - 2012-02-01 12:56

      Will the thumbs downer contribute or hide?

  • Johan - 2012-02-01 12:51

    If only we had some porn channels - when these guys would have seen that lesbians are cool.

      TheSkepticDetective - 2012-02-01 13:45

      tasteless, but funny.

      Johan - 2012-02-01 14:31

      No, not tasteless, more like: funny, but true.

  • alu.ntsandeni - 2012-02-01 12:52

    These ignorant animals deserve life imprisonment.

  • ruben.maistry - 2012-02-01 13:30

    In the USA a child molester gets LIFE, in RSA a murderer gets 18 years( The NPA asked for 15 years) what a laugh. I have interacted with magistrates and judges in RSA, they have NO value or ethics befitting any human being

  • Paco - 2012-02-01 13:54

    wonderful irony,they were homophobic and now they going to be violated for the next 18 years

  • Alex - 2012-02-01 14:17

    You are all correct. Who cares about an independent judiciary. Let's introduce Sharia law and we can participate in killing them with a public stoning to death.

      Pulverturm - 2012-02-01 17:32

      You're being a bit ignorant. If we have Sharia law, we would be stoning gays and lesbians to death legally. Trust me, you don't want Sharia law!

  • Eric - 2012-02-02 08:14

    18 years for a life taken???? It should be a life sentence bse after the 18 yrs the culprit is going to be back on our streets!!

  • Loy - 2012-02-02 11:37

    Its so sad that this young lady lost her life, there is need of sensitization amongst the community. The Judges have done there part but we as humans created in God's images lets leave the lord our God to do the final judgment not us. No one has a right to kill one another, one of the 10 commandments.But because of our sinfulness, situations may force one to do so, read Genesis 18 and ask the lord to guide and reveal if what these men did based on this teaching was right. Genesis 18.27. I am only a man and have no right to say anything to what the judge's decision was!!!!!!!!!!!!! There is always time for forgiveness Ephesians 4:22-23, 26,27,29,31-32. May her soul rest in eternal peace. http://www.christiananswers.net/q-abr/abr-a007.html

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