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Cele: Humiliated, abused by hearings

2012-06-13 13:15

Pretoria - Axed police commissioner Bheki Cele on Wednesday said he would file a complaint with the Judicial Service Commission (JSC) against retired judge Jake Moloi.

"He [Moloi] was very hostile towards me," Cele told reporters in Pretoria.

"I felt humiliated and abused," he said referring to the board of inquiry hearings.

Cele said it was strange that Moloi's report found him unfit for the job of police commissioner, though his performance in crime-fighting exceeded that of all his predecessors.

"How can you say I'm unfit?" he said.

"My efforts in crime-fighting seem to be irrelevant."

Court application


Cele said he would file an application with the North Gauteng High Court by the end of the week.

He wanted the court to review President Jacob Zuma's decision to fire him based on the "flawed" report by Moloi.

Cele said Moloi had tried to tarnish his reputation.

He said he had minutes from a meeting that Moloi was present at with the prosecutors and people from ministers' offices, discussing going to Zuma to ask to have more charges brought against Cele.

"If you [are] a presiding officer I would not expect you to sit in a meeting with prosecutors," he said.

When asked what he would do next, Cele said he was going to KwaZulu-Natal to relax and think.
However, he did not rule out going back into politics.

Political life


"I love politics and politics loves me," he said.

"I would not be surprised if I go back to the active political life." Cele said he would never abandon the ANC.

He also said he continued to have an excellent relationship with Zuma.

"The root of the relationship is long; 25 years," he said.

Despite going to court, Cele said he would "go quietly".

"I will not engage in any pointless back-chattings; I will simply shut up and go home," he said.

"I'm not dying for this job anymore."

Comments
  • RSole - 2012-06-13 13:20

    One would hope that Cele felt humiliated. Got everything he deserved.

      Darryn - 2012-06-13 14:19

      Did anyone watch the sky news report this morning on the vigilante gangs ( http://news.sky.com/home/world-news/article/16246120 ) that are taking the law into their own hands because they have no faith in the police? Its no wonder crime stats are down... nobody bothers to report it anymore. Great job there Mr Cele....

      Warren - 2012-06-13 21:12

      His job was more than being tough against murderers and muggers, it was overseeing his department and its budget. One can be great at general crime-fighting but when one starts illegally awarding lease contracts to buddies and inflated prices (and probably getting a kickback), well that's criminal regardless of ones track record. Why do so many people in SA think ones past is a license to behave with impunity in the future?

      Schmee - 2012-06-14 07:11

      @ Gollum. Fortunately the new police commissioner is a business woman who can do that sort of stuff in her sleep so that she can really pay attention to fighting crime.

  • joe.farmer.92775 - 2012-06-13 13:20

    cowboys don't cry ;-)

  • charlesdumbwin.dumbwin - 2012-06-13 13:22

    If Cele was not so utterly incompetent, and actually managed properly, like he was paid to do, then he wouldn't have been fired !!!

  • duma.nkabinde - 2012-06-13 13:26

    Its your constitutional right use it Mr Cele.

      Norman - 2012-06-13 13:53

      What about your constitutional right to a corruption free police force? To being safe from criminal activity? To service delivery? To an accountable government? The big gangster's feelings are hurt, what a shame. These guys are such big-deal heavy weights until they are caught, then they become whimpering girls, and often suddenly fall ill and have to go into specialized care.

      sean.murphy.165 - 2012-06-13 14:06

      Well said Norman. The ANC culture of corruption hurts all of our human rights. To come out in defence of these criminals shows that Duma is probably of similar criminal mindset.

      carol.zabora.1 - 2012-06-13 14:28

      Honestly ??????????????

  • Loo - 2012-06-13 13:27

    SERIOUSLY ????

  • Loo - 2012-06-13 13:28

    """ My efforts in crime-fighting seem to be irrelevant." """ OHHHH MYYY ,,, Dont you get the point . .YOUR one of the criminals .. THATS why you were fired

  • gladlad - 2012-06-13 13:29

    The General for PRESIDENT.....

  • mpho.phawe - 2012-06-13 13:29

    he got whast he deserve

  • jaco.smith.735 - 2012-06-13 13:30

    Hahahahaha South Africa is like one big circus.Sorry more like a Zoo,because circus animal's are trained.Take it like a man and stop crying.

  • Gavin - 2012-06-13 13:33

    clowns are supposed to be laughed at.

  • prakash.singh.169 - 2012-06-13 13:34

    JUDGE MOLOI IS A JUDGE BECAUSE OF HIS QUALIFICATIONS. JUDGE MOLOI NEEDS TO BE SALUTED. HE GAVE HIS VERDICT WITOUT FAVOUR OR FEAR. YOU BHEKI CELE WHAT QUALIFICATIONS YOU HAVE? YOU MIX YOUR SELF WITH THOSHAN PANDAY THEN BE PRESENT IN COURT WITH THE MPISANE. BHEKI CELE THE CORRECT JUDGEMENT HAS BEEN GIVEN. YOU, BHEKI CELE AND THE ANC HAVE TOO MUCH OF EGO.

      charlesdumbwin.dumbwin - 2012-06-13 13:39

      You use too much of CAPS, but we get your point

  • lynn.syme.1 - 2012-06-13 13:36

    He doesnt seem to understand the concept of "unfit for office" . He got caught with his fingers in the till and then has the nerve to say "how can you say Im unfit for office?" So by his "logic" he is saying I was good at my job but coining extra income off dodgy leases doesnt matter. Probably qualifying his stupidity by thinking "well...everybody is doing it!!"

      Darryn - 2012-06-13 14:16

      Because he is a buddy of Zuma's for 25 years and he can't understand why everyone else gets away with it and not him. It really is unfair to pick on him, actually.

  • thutothegreat - 2012-06-13 13:39

    he does look like a dried fruit.

      sean.murphy.165 - 2012-06-13 14:09

      His head looks more like a big shrivilled scrotum. His latest comments show that he just lacks the balls.

  • warwick.railton.7 - 2012-06-13 13:41

    Ag shame...............you were a Keystone cop you chop.

  • richard.zanner - 2012-06-13 13:43

    Ag shame the poor misunderstood abused politician. Can he please explain about his excellent crime fighting abilities as nobody has seen it. He is acting like a child. Go home and at least preserve some dignity. To say he did better than he predecessors is stupid as they were also fired so hardly a measure of competence.

  • hc12345 - 2012-06-13 13:44

    Shame!

  • vic.hammond.75 - 2012-06-13 13:47

    Yet another chancer and waster. So he should feel humiliated. He abused his powers and deserved what he got. If he goes to court, it MUST be at his expense.

  • Sean - 2012-06-13 13:52

    My heart bleeds for you Cele... what about the abused taxpayer whose money you and your corrupt cronies piss away without a thought....? Hopefully, you will not be the last corrupt incompetent politician to meet such a demise.

  • Thando - 2012-06-13 13:54

    We need PROOF on this statement "Cele said it was strange that Moloi's report found him unfit for the job of police commissioner, though his performance in crime-fighting exceeded that of all his predecessors"!!

      Mark - 2012-06-13 14:39

      What proof? Proof that he was unfit for office or proof that his crime fighting efforts exceeded his predecessors

  • gary.clark.376 - 2012-06-13 13:54

    Humiliated and abused is how the public feel when they are stopped by your corrupt police force you piece of $h**.

  • James - 2012-06-13 13:54

    Cele seemed to do very well when he stuck to the police job. The problem came with a cookie jar presented by Mr Shabangu. Selebie also did well -Head of Interpol, then Mr Agiotti presented a cookie jar. Let's hope the new police lady resists the cookie jar presented by whoever.

      Sesana Nkuna Maluleke - 2012-06-13 13:59

      Here's hoping that the new comissioner will resist the 'cookie jar' indeed...

  • crocky1234 - 2012-06-13 13:55

    Time to ride off into the sunset cowboy..There's a new sheriff in town.

  • Harley - 2012-06-13 13:56

    Shame, poor nunu, I'm sure the golden handshake will make you feel better

  • Psy4genic.Mgcwaba - 2012-06-13 13:59

    Zuma Madonsela, Moloi and Zuma took your advice and they shot to kill, now please stay dead.

  • Psy4genic.Mgcwaba - 2012-06-13 14:00

    Madonsela, Moloi and Zuma took your advice and they shot to kill, now please stay dead.

  • sean.murphy.165 - 2012-06-13 14:03

    We taxpayers also feel humiliated and abused every time we find out about the rampant fraud and corruption perpetrated by you and your ANC comrades. That is why we think that every last one of you deserves to rot in jail forever.

  • Phelamanga - 2012-06-13 14:04

    It's not his crime-fighting abilities that are in question. It's his involvement in crime that is pertinent. All the money that he spent on his house in Pretoria, and the proposed expenses from his relationship with Roux Shabangu are the problem. But he can't see that he was taking from the poor to feed his greed.

  • takunda.mutambudzi - 2012-06-13 14:12

    this is as humiliating as the story on bbc where a buffalo in india was brought to court for identification purposes over a theft case!

  • wwjdrevolution.newtestament - 2012-06-13 14:16

    Why cant ANC members take responsibility for what they have done..??? Leaders of this country is pathetic! Bunch of lunatic's!

      wwjdrevolution.newtestament - 2012-06-13 14:20

      17 Years of democracy and stil they are where they were 17 years ago! No wonder there is no Growth in certain Cultures.... " Eish, Its not my fault"!

      ncmpangase - 2012-06-13 15:06

      Its seems like you know best!! 17 years ago many blacks were not working, some had no places to sleep, nobody cared, and your were living so large, so don't spits shts here my men...you know nothing about the word Suffering, yes The Anc is corrupt but atleast many people no more lives in shacks...in this periode of 17 years they have done a lot...

  • unaty.mketsi - 2012-06-13 14:20

    U mess with the country, u mess with us all. Good decision mr president

      wwjdrevolution.newtestament - 2012-06-13 14:24

      for now, untill a new corrupt commisioner gets appointed! These guys are getting so predictable!

  • wwjdrevolution.newtestament - 2012-06-13 14:27

    Its time positions gets filled by competency and not by skin colour then you will see a system working! Up and till then dont expect much! Really, can nobody els see this!???

  • charmaine.mcdonald2 - 2012-06-13 14:28

    Just bow our Cele, your time on the hot seat is now over. Smile and move on.

  • elkita.robbertse - 2012-06-13 14:29

    Now that you are fired,tell everything about Zuma to the papers.Show them

      chantelle.joubertdreyer - 2012-06-13 22:19

      I agree.. He should lay everyone's dirty laundry on the table. He doesn't have anything to lose now ;)..

  • tebalob - 2012-06-13 14:36

    I hope Judge Moloi does not take these veiled threats from Cele as epmty threats. He must take them seriously and if needs be seek protection.....call me paranoid but I wouldn't like to read that "he shot himself in the head". He knows what I'm talking about,he studied at Ongoye,no offence to the university as such.

  • arthur.hugh - 2012-06-13 14:37

    Aaaw shame. Poor widdle Cele's feelings have been hurt. No more mister tough guy eh? All gooey and soft in the inside are you? Caramello bear.

  • Issa - 2012-06-13 14:44

    Hamba kahle Bheki cele - not long from now people will remember you and will wish you to come back n you will have no time. mistakes are made and when are made people need to be forgiven. Shabangu Mr. the business tycoon is no relative to Bheki Cele but he is related to the president - The man (Bheki) explained why he signed the papers in a hurry " it was 2010 and every thing wanted to be in order", when visitors especially police Interpol we must stand shoulder to shoulder with pride when they see our offices. The man was picked by the president as fit to be the top cop, today unfit to hold office due to a signing mistake, had it that the properties belonged to his wife I don't know what would happen to him - I am not crying but am feeling the future of active people like him if left like this humiliated, abused and let go.

      TaniaSandraSteyn - 2012-06-13 15:16

      You are right, Issa. I wouldn't want that job for all the money in the World. You are forever stuck between a rock and a hard place. Politicians use the police forces around the World for their own gain. If I was the new Commissioner, I would have a team of lawyers look over every piece of paperwork I sign. I would also tape every conversation I am involved in - and make sure they know it. Paranoia is the only way to survive in this position.

  • tebalob - 2012-06-13 15:02

    wena @Norman please leave us "girls" out of this why liken him to girls?lol

  • kemmuel - 2012-06-13 15:52

    \When asked what he would do next, Cele said he was going to KwaZulu-Natal to relax and think.\ REALLY??? Is this the reason why saps is malperforming because the Boss cannot make quick decisions on what to do next???

      tebogo.makaneta - 2012-06-14 00:34

      Give the man a break,the man lost a job. What do you expect him to say?

      kemmuel - 2012-06-14 10:00

      Tebogo keep in mind that he was in an honourable position which was of a professional nature

  • kemmuel - 2012-06-13 15:55

    It used to be 'STOMACH IN, CHEST OUT...' so I guess with the new saps commissioner its 'STOMACH OUT, CHEST IN...'

  • braamc - 2012-06-13 17:17

    Problem is the relationship with Zuma firstly and secondly your relationship with Roux, and thirdly greed for money. Your are unfit like the rest of the cANCer

  • aidan.lee.906 - 2012-06-13 17:24

    Your conduct was unbecoming for the rank of National Police Commissioner - which has buggerall to do with anything else idiot!

  • nomcebo.dlamini.90 - 2012-06-13 23:53

    shame that he is leaving, that man made criminals shake

  • fhumulani - 2012-06-14 02:08

    For sure Presidential appointments can be Removed, shuffled and so on whenever the President feels that the person appointed is doing less than expected/ill performing but going to courts for the court to decide like really? Mr Cele did u apply for that position?\r\n\r\nIs our country being overruled by the courts where by the head of state's actions are the interpreted as null and void?? Somebody must account

  • Thembi - 2012-06-14 04:50

    Operation WANYA tsotsi,SHOOT to kill ohh will miss this man

  • bonganiemmanuel.mazibuko - 2012-06-14 05:01

    pack n go mr cele, relax n think carefully

  • Schmee - 2012-06-14 07:09

    Okay then, why is he not just going quietly? It's simple, just shut up and go home.

  • mark.gamtoos - 2012-06-14 16:28

    Yawn......same o same o.....

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