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Charges laid against Malema over mine unrest

2012-09-05 20:10

Johannesburg - Trade union Solidarity on Wednesday laid criminal charges against former ANCYL leader Julius Malema, for inflaming tensions at mines hit by unrest.

Malema has capitalised on violent strikes in the mining industry to take pot shots at enemies like President Jacob Zuma and push his radical views on nationalising mines.

Solidarity laid charges of incitement to public violence and intimidation against Malema at a police station near Pretoria.

"Violent protests at mines are not spontaneous. He encourages violence for his own gain. Malema is an opportunist who uses unrest to try to revive his political career," said Solidarity spokesperson Johan Kruger.

Travelling to troubled mines, Malema has fired up worker frustrations with calls for mines to be made "ungovernable", on which Solidarity blamed this week's violence at a Gold One mine where rubber bullets were fired and four people injured.

Malema also visited platinum giant Lonmin's Marikana mine, where a deadly illegal strike has killed 44 people.

"He continues to attempt to capitalise on the Marikana tragedy to further his own political agenda," Kruger said.

"Malema cannot be allowed to rule by fear and sow fear among foreign investors and South Africans."

Comments
  • Cameron - 2012-09-05 20:13

    Another charge that nothing will get done about!

      Rabbler.Rouser - 2012-09-05 20:19

      Hopefully Malema will soon be charged with fraud and corruption through his fraudelent tender dealings. He need to be put away for a long time. Before he can learn to play golf.

      charlesdumbwin.dumbwin - 2012-09-05 20:28

      GOOD! Charge this Malema tsotsi with inciting violence in South Africa!!!

      chaplinncharlie - 2012-09-05 20:29

      Sluit die Nar toe en gooi die sleutel weg asb...

      claudia.meads - 2012-09-05 20:50

      tshililo.siobo Where else in the world do you get a character like Malema..? Where else in the world do you get employees telling their employer they will kill him if he does not stop his business..? I will tell you - NOWHERE..! Not in the USA and not in China.., nowhere. This is what happens when you have a country run by terrorists, rapists, murderers, thieves and a range of other criminals. This is what happens if you have some of the worst labour laws on earth. The ANC will destroy SA - the only question that matters, is what you will tell your children and theirs, when they ask you why you supported those who destroyed everything when you still had a choice to create a future for them. Look around you - is this what you call 'liberation'..? http://www.fin24.com/Economy/R675-lost-to-graft-since-1994-expert-20120905 Get your head out of that very dark cavity, sir - you may find it is nearly too late.

      nina.ignjatov - 2012-09-05 21:01

      Malema has started all this and YES he needs to pay for it!!!! The cause behind everything once again!!! I am So sick of this FAT idiot, can please someone just take him out, you will be a HERO!!!

      chaplinncharlie - 2012-09-05 21:06

      Nina i will take him out for you, but that isn't for a Movie...

      chaplinncharlie - 2012-09-05 21:29

      @veldt aka Cosmos... http://www.solidaritysa.co.za/Home/home.php Go read i'm not here to educate you...

      juan.prinsloo.750 - 2012-09-06 01:45

      @claudia did you forget about Zimbabwe?

      darryl.maze1 - 2012-09-06 08:45

      @Claudia. Tshililo.siobo is obviously one of those brainwashed fools. Let him follow his woodwork teacher and his corrupt ANC party. He just must'nt come asking for help when his own comrads screw him over. He should move to Zimbabwe.

      janice.mcmaster.92 - 2012-09-06 11:59

      He is completely see through!!! Political gain...

      thabang.bonang.7 - 2012-09-06 12:09

      Shifting the blame to Malema and not unions, government and management is plain stupidity. Solidarity knows very well that there are genuine issues that need to be addressed and zich has been done about them. I guess solidarity just need some attention since they have never been mentioned on the Marikana issue. What best way than to come with that magic name, MALEMA.

  • Billy - 2012-09-05 20:20

    good

  • irene.buthelezi.1 - 2012-09-05 20:22

    Great stuff. I hope he doesn't serve his sentence concurrently with the other one for tender fraud.

      liana.loots - 2012-09-05 22:06

      tshililo , in one breath you contradict yourself. read your comment again you idiot. 'the right to organize freely is protected in terms of our laws' wtf. malema is an anarchist and is guilty of high treason .

      boltonbarry - 2012-09-05 23:16

      And the right to contest matters in the court of law is also protected under our laws

      desertratbkf - 2012-09-07 11:07

      @Sean - Is it "primitive" South African, or a "primate" South African!

      kimzoh - 2012-09-11 15:40

      Juju is naughty now, he must go sit at a naughty corner with his head on his knees! Very naughty boy...

  • renier.lubbe.7 - 2012-09-05 20:23

    malema is on his own mission while enjoying the pleasures of a rich man. "All this additional violent attitude can be attributed to malema. Deploy robots (I know it will be difficult.) and tell malema to feed the miners and their families. However if there are miners at other mines that get R 12 500 for the same job these miners should get the same salary as well. If the mine cannot afford it close the mine as it then is not an economically viable operation if it is operated at a loss."

      abrammothothi.mamabolo - 2012-09-06 13:41

      so they can open their platinum mines in Britain or gold mine in America

      marcusvandermerwe - 2012-09-07 16:57

      Closing the mines will suit the nationalisation idea perfectly. Why all this hype in the first place?

  • sesom - 2012-09-05 20:28

    hang this bastard

      chaplinncharlie - 2012-09-05 20:54

      That would be to kind...

  • ingi.raikes - 2012-09-05 20:32

    ......well l never! ........now, nail the BASTARD, but this time for good!

      juan.prinsloo.750 - 2012-09-06 01:54

      I dont think so tshililo, he has made some very powerfull and resourcefull people very angry. May I mention Zuma as just one example. I will be surprised if Malema makes it to Xmas

  • neil.p.jonker - 2012-09-05 20:32

    iF ONLY SOMETHING WOULD COME FROM IT

  • Stewart Croucamp - 2012-09-05 20:38

    Ignore Julius. He is digging his own grave. One of his cadres are going to plant a bullet in his head.

      desertratbkf - 2012-09-07 11:09

      Where and when???? I want to witness another magnificent day on earth!

      kimzoh - 2012-09-11 15:45

      The headlines will read 'Julius Malema dies in a horrible car accident'!

  • paulina.sentha - 2012-09-05 20:42

    Hw Stupid u can be always wen der s article abt president julius malema u put 500 comments of hatred dat s why he say u will always follow him why haters don't just boycot president malema by not commenting to anytin to do with president malema u used to call him a clown can u realy say it now malema a prescribed medicine for our ailing country juju asijiki pre and post mangaung

      mbulelo.pikoli - 2012-09-05 20:55

      That's true man they must ignore Malema comments

      penny.stone.589 - 2012-09-05 22:41

      "President" Malema??? I must have been snoozing when that was announced.

      marcusvandermerwe - 2012-09-07 16:59

      Malema did not exist before the media found him

  • TheBlackRaptor - 2012-09-05 20:45

    What is different from this man to any other politician? They all rule by might and not by MERIT.

  • Malose-Nyatlo - 2012-09-05 20:46

    At least somebody is doing something about the big-headed Malema. Well done Solidarity, the ANC broad church cannot take Malema to task as he is the product of their teachings.

      tinotenda.panashe - 2012-09-05 21:38

      I presume you miss apartheid Malose. You are an embarassment to society boy!

      penny.stone.589 - 2012-09-05 22:48

      Why is Malose-Nyatlo an embarrassment to society @tinotenda.panashe? Methinks you embarrass yourself more by making such a stupid statement.

      boltonbarry - 2012-09-05 23:20

      Malose Ill give you a Bells. Tinotenda I think the one who is missing apartheid is you. As no longer can you blame the countries woes on apartheid, no longer does the world look at blacks in South Africa and go. SHAME they are opressed. After 18 years they see you guys for the murdering, racist, despots you really are

  • Andre - 2012-09-05 20:47

    I am anxiously waiting for the head-to-head battle between the ANC and Malema's creche!

      duncan.gill1 - 2012-09-05 21:42

      tshililo you unable to face facts...not surprising we will see what your excuse is come December!

  • teddy.beer.319 - 2012-09-05 20:48

    These faceless political vultures and spineless greenflies like JM and their lap dogs like the FYL are a real danger to society, worse than Aids. Do they really believe that if the mine closes, there will be jobs to fight for. Opportunists like JM should remember one thing: Money doesn't run a mine. Its run by balls. I don't believe any of the cowards and criminals masquerading as FYL has any.

      duncan.gill1 - 2012-09-05 21:41

      You,tshililo, were probably to chauvinistic to help your Mom hey?

      boltonbarry - 2012-09-06 07:52

      Thsilolol when you are done using the masters computer there's a garden for you to go work in

  • thabo.letlhoo - 2012-09-05 20:49

    we live in a circus world.

  • Andries Mogomotsi Tumane - 2012-09-05 20:50

    I don't see any problem with what is said by Malema as it the culture of our politics.

      jan.vanniekerk.52 - 2012-09-05 21:56

      Well said: Yes, indeed you don't see any problem, because that's the culture of your politics. To be in your politics, you must be blind to your own faults. If there are any problems, they are not with you. Other people make the problems, and must be shouted at. You are all very cleverly clever, and know how to shout at people that make problems, but you don't know how to fix a tap so it stops dripping. Dripping taps are someone else's problem, and they must fix it and be like to make shut up.

  • andrew.surtees1 - 2012-09-05 20:50

    How did they not see this coming? The fact that they let him get as far as to become president of the ancyl shows just how bad and irresponsible our government is! Our country is going down because of our government,people get rid of the corrupt leaders first then we move forward step by step! If this does not change people's point of view then I'm afraid to say this is only the start of a major uprising and downfall to people who don't know better!

  • Bongiwe Bongie Mabongz Dlutu - 2012-09-05 20:51

    Malema think \poor people\ are his ladder to success...

  • Johann Enslin - 2012-09-05 20:52

    For once get your heads out of your racist, tribalist black and white backsides and think. All threats should be viewed as a promise of action. Should you wait untill someone slits your throat after a threat before you try to take action? Are you that ignorant. This is way past wage negotiations.

      duncan.gill1 - 2012-09-05 21:39

      To true..scary..but too true!

  • senzo.mathebula - 2012-09-05 20:53

    Malenaphobia again...u r waiting the cops time. They should b investigating real crimes

  • bongani.nsele.58 - 2012-09-05 20:54

    i like this fellow malema he speaks truth let those with ears listen...if african people were not thinking like malema i would say there is something wrong with them...his detractors know fully well that he is seeking justice and they can't just stomach it

  • lownabester - 2012-09-05 20:55

    Solidarity will get results, they know what they doing.

      lownabester - 2012-09-05 20:58

      tshililo, are you stupid, have you never heard of all the court cases they have won. Idiot.

  • bongani.mahlangu.923724 - 2012-09-05 20:59

    I like juju,this is a new South Africa we have the freedom of speech. Let him reveal all the secrets of SA. No one gonna stop you.

  • jmaliks - 2012-09-05 21:00

    well it sems there is desparation or politicaly motivated elements into this.hw can you sue some 1 who ws invited by the miners.how can u blame someone who went there after the incident.thy need 2 blme the,slf 4 failing 2 address their ppl in the ryt channel

  • Michael - 2012-09-05 21:05

    Inciting violence is a procecutable offence, if there is evidence, he maybe arrested, if solidarity does not have factual basis for their claim, instead this will make Malema a hero. Good luck Solidarity.

  • Jacky Mutsila - 2012-09-05 21:05

    these people are working around the clock to bring malema down and out jst b4 December and it aint gona happen...long live comrade malema long live

      trix.duvenage - 2012-09-06 13:03

      Jacky....I see you are wearing a tie. Go stand on a chair....tie the thin part [the back part of the tie] to a branch of a tree and get somebody to kick the chair out from underneath you. Anybody that supports Mal Emma with such effection should try this stunch

  • izakdu - 2012-09-05 21:09

    We live in a country with some serious issues and the best that we normal non political people can do is yell abuse from white to black and back again. How about we forget our fears of each other and start working together. Stop killing and start loving. Lets complete the current revolution with a love revolution.

  • mkhindana.peter - 2012-09-05 21:14

    These allegations by Trade Union are without merit.Malema also has freedom of speech just like any other S.A citizen.Leave my homeboy the hell alone and focus on investigating Zuma and his buddy Prince Goodwill Zwelithini.

  • bretton.eveleigh - 2012-09-05 21:15

    Malema is untouchable... anything the ANC will do against him will only turn him into a martyr! A hero in the masses eyes!

  • tebo.w.ganyani - 2012-09-05 21:16

    malema hiz untouchable. Who is solidarity??? I'm sure malema knw 1 or 2 skeletons about solidarity. Malema is unkillable, malema is unjailable. He is so vocal. He will left you look bad. When he tok even holland's prime-minister pay's attention hahahahahahahaha.

      frankflower - 2012-09-05 21:25

      How do you expect people to take you seriously if you cannot even spell? Hello, we use capital letters at the beginning of a sentence... Stupid, stupid, person...

      collen.vinjwa - 2012-09-05 21:53

      Go back 2 school b4 u laugh so hard Mr. 1 skeletons! People like u a are an embarrassment to us!

      tonic14 - 2012-09-05 23:25

      malema is unkillable? tebo my friend, you have less intelligence then the dust on a rock.

      rohan.olwage - 2012-09-06 08:42

      Tebo please ensure you have at least finished primary school before commenting it's very evident that 99% of my 8 year old students can spell and construct better sentences than you I mean do you realise how your making yourself look like !

      deon.louw.7505 - 2012-09-06 13:52

      Last time I checked Malema was expelled from ANCYL as well as ANC. So he is a has been.

  • elia.mogale - 2012-09-05 21:18

    handz off to my leader, malema is the future whatever radical action is taking ,we will always support him for our own sake, are you saying people should be killed like dogs for their rights, you guys are racist we all know about your tendecy

      frankflower - 2012-09-05 21:21

      Good, then don't come begging when he drops you.

      brendon.nel.7 - 2012-09-05 21:37

      Eish!! U Rrrrracist!! Ha ha ha ha

      tonic14 - 2012-09-05 23:28

      haha!! your leader? here does he live? how does he treat people behind closed doors? have you even met him? yet you are willing to call this man your leader and stake everything on him? go knock on his door, i bet the only thing you will get is his security guards kicking you down the street like a stray dog. Try and defend him then...

      rohan.olwage - 2012-09-06 08:46

      Elia I suggest you take a look at the video of the massacre one more time it was black police men shooting black protesting miners my friend I mean seriously how can you always take the racist stand point I agree what happened was horrible but there was not a single white police man shooting at the protesters it was 99% black police officers that shot the miners so please help me understand where your coming from on that remark!

  • duncan.gill1 - 2012-09-05 21:18

    So do the true leaders of South Africa show their hand at last where is the great spineless ANC I ask,to scared and incompetent to do the right thing..they are the reason this countries in so much trouble..looks like the settlers will have to save the day..again ...again...again..and again!Can anyone dispute this..and as for the idiots who support this chaos..be ready sirs your day is coming the world as we know it will enact its justice!

  • leaproach.thekeeper - 2012-09-05 21:26

    Malema is actually good for the political process in SA. He's going to split the mighty ANC right down the middle and both him and them will be left weakened. Come on 2014. Can't wait to see what will happen :-)

      duncan.gill1 - 2012-09-05 21:38

      Me too!

  • jdhblog - 2012-09-05 21:33

    The oppertunism shown by Malema in the midst of a tragedy equal to that of the apartheid era, is evident of his incompetence as a politician and his shortsightedness equal to those who is and has supported him.

  • Sedeshan Naidoo - 2012-09-05 21:36

    Malema talks, idiots listen.

  • Muffin_man_can - 2012-09-05 21:39

    Nice Solidariteit! Vat hom vas!

  • crossleyauto - 2012-09-05 21:41

    Last dayz

  • ronnymakgaola.selota - 2012-09-05 21:43

    Id rather sing national anthem only where it is sang in Zulu & Sotho coz they will never be peace in this land. Tshililo a u ba kgabulise mfana. No going back, forward.ever Whether we are stupid or not. Whether we cant spell English rite.Change Must happen.

  • lpmakhale - 2012-09-05 21:45

    what is the charge for cos he did not committ any crime?

      alexandra.robertson.969 - 2012-09-06 10:01

      calling for the miners to make the mines ungovernable is incitement of violence, which is against the law as it puts peoples lives at risk. The lives of those mines are at risk when he speaks, the police are no better trained today than they were a week ago, if the miners start to get violent they will get shot again and South Africa will again look like a barbaric unlawful state to the rest of the world. that will result in less foreign investment which will in turn hurt EVERY South African no matter their colour.

  • henk.tredoux.7 - 2012-09-05 21:48

    Let's get one thing straight! In 1994 we voted for change and with change we expected things to get better through compromise and negotiation! When reference is made to "Whites being scared of transformation......" I have to laugh! Were our black fellow countrymen the only ones that voted? What is scary though, with respect, transformation did not imply anarchy and destruction! Does that make sense to the new intelligentsia?

  • barengkm - 2012-09-05 21:56

    It time for the true to be told now .it time for change .freedom charter ,we must share this mineral,we need to nationalize mines,banks,hands off from my boy

      Muffin_man_can - 2012-09-05 21:59

      Singing the same song over and over and over and over... Boring

      jan.vanniekerk.52 - 2012-09-05 22:07

      Dude, you don't need to change the freedom charter: you need to change the ten commandments: that bit about stealing is the one you have trouble with. You also need to get rid of the bit about coveting your neighbour's minerals. While you're at it, drop the adultery thing. I'm not sure what that leaves you with ... oh yes, murder too. Wow, this is going to be a cool place to live once you're done!

  • henk.tredoux.7 - 2012-09-05 22:03

    Lyk my spelling is nie die enigste probleem wat ons landgennot het nie? Red nou n nasie met so n argument! Lyk my die ou handboekies het sy skool of boom ook nog nie bereik nie! Siestog Oom! En hy volg blindelings sy strukture om die land onregeerbaar te maak! Dankie tog ek het houtwerk geslaag! Rustige nag en lekker la la hoor!

  • leko.dada1 - 2012-09-05 22:19

    Equally; patron Malema should countersue against 'naive solidarity' for being a DEFINITELY DEFICIENT bunch who only concerned about their interests and protecting investors (exploitation) at the costs of workers , which leads THE POPULACE to resort to desperate measures. The poppy solidarity (racists doctrine) is damaging our nation's image! economics mustn't only depend on out-dated books, their education is getting exposed...

  • leko.dada1 - 2012-09-05 22:24

    Equally; patron Malema should countersue against 'naive solidarity' for being a DEFINITELY DEFICIENT bunch who only concerned about their interests and protecting investors (exploitation) at the costs of workers , which leads THE POPULACE to resort to desperate measures. The poppy solidarity (racists doctrine) is damaging our nation's image! economics mustn't only depend on out-dated books, their education is getting exposed...

  • glen.e.huysamer - 2012-09-06 00:59

    You know I don't give a hoot about Malema and his political antics, actually the more I look at him and the minning 'gemors' we have here in South Africa, the more I actually have to laugh about it, not that it is funny...... of all the pathetic antics to come out of the finger pointing blame game starting from the highest office to the lowest, trade union misrepresentation corporate mine management, questionable cronyism, which points to a conspiracy that is now called the Lonmin Masscre.... deaths of people, people on the ground, not company management not politicians nor trade union leaders but f**cking South African people workers, policemen, security guards...fathers, brothers and uncles South African citizens are dead So forgive me if I do not care one freaking 'snot-ball' for the 'foreign -investors mentioned here by Solidarity who ever the F**&K they are, they are a disgrace to concern themselves over foreign investors before South African's if they have not noticed that it was South African's that were killed, so who the h*ll must South Africans be afraid of, when deaths have already happened Solidarity serves only to divide our nation even more by attacking Malema, searching for the same sensationalist platform as Malema's travels around the country to visit the mines. What is Solidarity doing? Nothing more nothing less pathetic than Malema. So Kruger/Solidarity get real, butt out, shut up your presence is not helping South Africa. VoetZzzaaaak!

  • witwolf.digter - 2012-09-06 04:43

    malema is bad news. Get rid of him. Him and the anc....

      sipho.rangxa - 2012-09-06 12:57

      you sound fedup

  • sisa.mtwana - 2012-09-06 04:56

    I thought the AWB and National party are dead. I guess I wrong.The Mentality of some white in South Africa is still in Apartheid years. You are not dealing with the Blacks of 16 hundreds. Slavery is over people need to be paid fairly.The price of food and other things are the same in US,UK,SA or Kenya etc. So why pay someone money that you don't even pay a cleaner in the office in UK or US for a month. But you want to pay our minors $300 a month.

      lorna.sisusa - 2012-09-06 14:07

      What has Apartheid or AWB got to do with Malema and Marikana.. Who do u excpect give increase of over 220%, You can not just jump from R4 000 to R12 500.. What's that???

      eleanore.hill - 2012-09-06 18:50

      Siswa, why are you converting our money? A rand is a rand and dollar is a dollar. Our rand has no value thanks to a bad economy, and strikes weaken it. I earned roughly a 1000 pounds a month in the UK before I became educated. In some Eastern countries, China included if my memory serves me correct, some factories pay their workers 2 dollars a day, and they have no rights. They are not even allowed toilet or lunch breaks. That is slave labor. The price of food is not the same, trust me. The mere fact that you say this show that you have no idea. Its way cheaper, unless you go and buy it with our rand that has little value in the world. Go traveling. Go to the East,India, Africa, Eastern Europe, Cuba, North Korea..the list is endless. Hell,even in countries like the USA people \moonlight\ to survive, this means they have two jobs. How many South Africans have two jobs? One during the day and then at night? Just to survive? We are too lazy and would rather sit and complain about what we don't have and should have. Go traveling, you will come back feeling blessed and grateful.

      sisa.mtwana - 2012-09-06 20:41

      Eleanore you've just answered yourself when you say you used to earn £1000 a month before you acquired education. A £1000 is R12 000 and that is what miners are asking for. Secondly the price of food in the UK is roughly the same, a loaf of bread in local shop is £1.30 and in SA £10, a pant of milk in UK is 65p and in SA is £9. So for me food prices are the some and even cheaper in UK with buy one and get one free in most supermarket. Electronic goods are double the price in SA. In SA with £3.500 I can just about pay my rent in the township if I'm renting. You also talk about the far east , there every thing is cheap , the rent, food and goods yes ,so yes they pay less , but its also changing as well. People in the far east are starting to demand more pay rise.Lastly I do take my kids once or twice a year abroad for holidays. There is a lot I can tell you on this subject eg manufacturing and trade. I hope you get the point though.

  • zukile.marcus - 2012-09-06 05:51

    Crap frm Trade Union Solidarity; u seem not to know why exist in the first place. Where were u when Marikana tragedy started; what have been your standing in the wake of these developments being Trade union. The only person who seem to bbe your interest in this whole tragedy is Malema.

  • lynne.barker.7 - 2012-09-06 05:52

    Today is the day - lock him up for good - no bail.This blabbermouth is ruining this country at an incredible pace. Dangerous person to be outside of prison.Killing investments and economy and getting away with it. STOP HIM TODAY

      sipho.rangxa - 2012-09-06 12:54

      Coda i fully agree with you, let it be today. then we the normal people can focus on developing this country while fat boy iis crying in jail.

  • matlala.lesibajoseph - 2012-09-06 07:00

    I think the steps taken by Solidarity are paramount important to free this country and its citizens from the hands of Malema and his bogus FYL. We cannot continue to witness him inciting mine workers to remain lawless at all times. Tracing back at Malema's opportunistic behaviour he invaded farming industry and incited workers to disrespect their employers. Fortunately he failed. Now that he has seen another opportunity created by Lomnin tragedy he moves on corpse to revive his political ambitions. It is my greatest wish that Commission of Human Rights put load on Soliditary's attempt to free this country from potential civil war driven by Malema Julius. He is a disgruntled and dissident politician. The law inforcement should do its work and make sure that workers and employees together with investors feel free to improve the economy of this country.

  • winifred.watson.9 - 2012-09-06 07:14

    Anybody in any civil society who incities violence will face charges. Hopefully South Africa is still a seen as a civil society after all this footage that has been shown to the world. Who did we see inciting the people, Malema, did we see him trying to calm them down, no he told them to fight and die if need be for R12500 per month. Who gave the miners this figure. Anyhow, julius just used these people to manufacture his new career and spite the very organization he says he will always support until he dies. Spite does not condone getting innocent people killed. Now he has caused the unrest, what will he do if the mine closes and these miners lose their jobs. No, he will still be champion of the poor, he will still have his warm bed in sandton and food on the table and his fleet of expensive cars. What will these miners have......ask you selfish self that malema. Whereby people were sympathetic to these miners, but now all we see is them waving weapons and making threats to kill, now that sympathy for them has been lost. This is not how you carry on in a civil society....this is becoming barbaric. To stop this from happening again, somebody needs to take responsibility, and high up on the list is the incitor and then go down the line. This can almost be classed as treason........and something has to done now.