Churches upset over Satanist comments

2011-03-14 21:43

Johannesburg - The SA Council of Churches in Gauteng on Monday expressed "outrage" over a school principal's calling provincial Education MEC Barbara Creecy a "Satanist".

SA Democratic Teachers' Union chairperson in Gauteng Moss Senye reportedly called Creecy a "Satanist" and urged members not to align themselves with white people as "they will satanise you".

"The SACC views these utterances very seriously as they are not in line with the vision of this country," SACC Gauteng secretary Reverend Gift Moerane said in a statement.

He said attempts were made to meet Sadtu's leadership in the province over the comments, but these were unsuccessful. The council would therefore take up the matter with churches in and around Soweto.

"We are concerned about the negative impact of conduct that undermines the gains of our hard earned democracy by leaders who use irresponsible language. Leaders should carry out their roles in a moral way, in a manner that affirms the dignity of others."

The ANC in Gauteng and Sadtu's national leadership distanced themselves from Senye's comments.

Senye appeared in court on Monday - with a large contingent of supporters - for allegedly assaulting a pupil. The case was postponed to May 11.

  • Rudi - 2011-03-14 22:08

    "they are rapists", "ANC = Heaven", "She is the devil" i can go on. This is really really sad. Is this how they will "win" the hearts and minds of the people? Even sadder.. most likely.

      AJ - 2011-03-15 06:36

      Yes, this is the kind of racist rhetoric the people want - unfortunately.

      sharkbait - 2011-03-15 11:51

      who is trying to win the hearts and minds of the people? this is not iraq... all they want to do is stay in power and milk the gravy train!

  • Wayne Gemmell - 2011-03-14 22:13

    Lunatics on both sides spend too much time talking to themselves.

      Rustum X - 2011-04-12 10:58

      Damn right! And the TV-educated retards on the ground seperate themselves into cheerleading groups yelling rabid support for party labels, instead of working on a plan to present to government as "the People's sole mandate".

  • Benzo - 2011-03-14 22:15

    "...with white people as "they will satanise you"." Satan was always pictured as black and angels are white :-)). Funny how some under performing SADTU members keep the hordes stupid enough to be able to strut their stuff. Any teacher agreeing/believing this rubbish should loose his/her license to teach or even enter a school.

      Felix - 2011-03-15 08:05

      I thought the Devil was RED???

      Thangy - 2011-03-15 12:04

      So did I Felix, so did I. Maybe @Benzo didnt grow up watching tv in colour

      bent5000 - 2011-03-16 16:21

      Makes no difference what colour the devil is. That idiot cant be saying things like that, especially to a bunch of dumbass teachers. Makes me sick to the stomach.

  • Moeketsi - 2011-03-14 22:21

    We are concerned about SACC's selective approach to issues of morality.They express outrage when the MEC is called 'satanist' (whatever that might mean) but kept quite when President said those who vote the ANC will go to heaven and those who vote other parties will burn in hell by a man with a fork , horns and tail.This is abomination in the extreme to say the least.

      Benzo - 2011-03-14 22:32

      maybe SACC is supported by JZ or the GUPTA clan???

      Peter Merrington - 2011-03-15 00:47

      No, they didn't 'keep quiet', Moeketsi. You missed the news.

      PikeLee - 2011-03-15 14:51

      @Moeketsi - selective hearing? A problem with all anc members...

  • liezelb - 2011-03-14 22:22


  • Dirk - 2011-03-14 23:41

    Nou wat sou die malles laat dink ons "hard earned democracy" is 'n instelling van God? Besef huulle dan nie dat God al die tyd 'n Theokraat is nie?

      Rustum X - 2011-04-12 11:02

      Ag Dirk! Ek droom van dae wanneer die 10 gebooie as beide landswet en massa-kultuur aanvaar en beoefen word. En ek is nie eers 'n Christen nie.

  • RationalistPabi - 2011-03-15 00:10

    And Santa said to the Tooth fairy ...

  • Peter Merrington - 2011-03-15 00:48

    Good to hear this from the SACC. A far more sinewy association than Zuma's preferred 'interfaith council'.

      Susannomore - 2011-03-15 06:31

      Again I ask the question, what does this have to do with them? Why is is good?

  • Iann Leonards Pitout - 2011-03-15 02:44

    AAAAAH CRAP!!!!! And here I was making plans to go to Heaven....any one have an ANC membership form please....

  • gb2161 - 2011-03-15 04:36

    Christianity is a fraud. A manufactured money grubbing business that changes its marketing strategies as it goes along. The bible, ever malleable in interpretation, is used as the justification to make tithing sheeple feel superior and to set them apart form the rest of society. Shame, now they are upset.

      Doorboot - 2011-03-15 07:16

      Shame, thanks for showing us the light... sigh

      pop101 - 2011-03-15 08:01

      Ja ja ja, but this is not the issue here. We heard your argument a 1000 times before. Funny how non-believers use every opportunity to belittle the Christian faith. It must be permanently on your brain. Shame.

      Verbatim - 2011-03-15 08:40

      And non believers are all sleeping with their mothers and have pointy little heads. Grow up you twat.

      Darwinian - 2011-03-15 09:03

      @Verbatim go read your bible and stop judging!!

      Boerseun - 2011-03-15 09:46

      Christianity is not the problem. People are the ones who do evil.

      definite1984 - 2011-03-15 14:24

      @pop101. Well Said! Totally off the is clearly a lost little soul dying to believe something, but can't, and envious of those that do! @gb - let people believe what they believe - because that over everything else makes it real. And go rest your mind, it will do you some good.

      Waffer - 2011-03-16 14:46

      I'm just wondering if Christianity is a fraud, how come that in 2011 years, no person not even one could vote, burn, kill, scream or reason the Bible out of existence? My friend, many hammers have been worn out against the Word of God, but the anvil remains, the Word of God abides forever.

      Rustum X - 2011-04-12 11:08

      Are you referring to the Christianity, based on the teachings of Yeshuah, the institution of Constantine, or the post-Reformation doctrines; or the general institutionalisation of spirituality? No Church has ever robbed me of my income to the extent that banks do. And I suspect most of those are officially "Atheist".

  • Proudly SA - 2011-03-15 06:11

    This is all very childish; name calling and using religious terminology and analogies to work crowds up is just plain stupid and indication of limited intellgence. Well done to Helen Zille who just shrugged off Tony Erinreich's devil comments and requested everybody focus on proper issues.

      blondetopaz - 2011-03-15 09:05

      hear, hear. Why people always have to insult a person's religious/non-religious views is beyond me. But then we are dealing with masses of limited intellgence, and by this i refer to some leaders/politicians. It takes a great, confident person to shrug of insults. Usually the people doing the insulting are those most lacking in confidence and conviction. On a lighter note - Whips and stones may break my bones, but whips and chains excite me ;)

      blondetopaz - 2011-03-15 09:06

      shrug off - duh!

      Rustum X - 2011-04-12 11:10

      Nice But you are still come across as an intellectually challenged celebrity worshiper.

  • ArtGee - 2011-03-15 06:21

    The LUNATICS have taken over the assylim......

  • Alfred - 2011-03-15 06:29

    unfortunately for Moss Senye if he wants electricity, phones, hospitals, cars and industry he is just going to have to learn to deal with whites.

      Rustum X - 2011-04-12 11:11

      Yea... Racism is always what the other guy does.

  • Susannomore - 2011-03-15 06:30

    Is this not MEC Barbara Creecy's battle to fight? What the heck does the SACC have to do with this? Why does the church insist on interferring with politics and other matters which does not concern them?

      Will2.0 - 2011-03-15 08:43

      Society is not a bunch of independent silos. When politicians start meddling with faith, faith will do the same to politics. Too bad we couldn't put both in a museum and get on with our lives.

  • Fredster69 - 2011-03-15 06:44

    The saddest part of it all is that these guys are teaching OUR children. God help us...

  • LoveJesus - 2011-03-15 06:54

    As long as the education in this country is limited to a few who can afford good teachers, i.e. the priviledged, the anc can intimdate the masses to vote for them and non would be the wiser! Keeping superstitions alive is proof of this, you can see they address the uneducated on a regular basis!

      Zinki - 2011-03-15 07:13

      They are purposely keeping them superstitious and ignorant and uneducated. They know educated people would never vote for them!

      Rustum X - 2011-04-12 11:15

      Even the educated people seems to campaign for their "chosen celebrities" instead of working on a solution that would apply to any government that takes office. We have a population of lazy loudmouth retards promoting their choice of exploitation agencies.

      Rustum X - 2011-04-12 11:15

      Even the educated people seems to campaign for their "chosen celebrities" instead of working on a solution that would apply to any government that takes office. We have a population of lazy loudmouth retards promoting their respective choices of exploitation agencies.

      Rustum X - 2011-04-12 11:16

      Even the educated people seems to campaign for their "chosen celebrities" instead of working on a solution that would apply to any government that takes office. We have a population of lazy loudmouth retards promoting their respective choices of exploitation agencies.

  • rog - 2011-03-15 07:12

    This article is political!!Nothing to do with religion.

  • unbeatabulls - 2011-03-15 07:18

    haha, somehow i cant picture the devil, what a frightening thought!!!!!!

      DW - 2011-03-15 10:10

      That shows your underlying prejudice - of which you may not even be aware. The "colur" of the devil is irrelevant. The mess that he creates is.

  • jiamalunga - 2011-03-15 07:37

    I wonder how they would feel if the satanist take back all their inventions like the wheel, electricity, lights, commercial farming, roads, toilets....should I go on?

      Susannomore - 2011-03-15 07:43


      blondetopaz - 2011-03-15 09:10

      and the latest Landi, Johnny Walker, and Sushi - oh wait that's Asian. Oh, but Gucci, D & G, Rolex, etc should count. So, then the top dogs of the ANC are all Satan serving/loving worshippers? Just a question.

  • WCD - 2011-03-15 07:39

    "Senye appeared in court on Monday - with a large contingent of supporters - for allegedly assaulting a pupil." - and this baboon is in charge of something, ludicrous monkey circus ANC .

      mm - 2011-03-15 09:33

      He assaults a student, and STILL he has a " large contingent of supporters"??? What? Supporting the right to assault students? Why are people so gulluable?

  • DILLIGAF - 2011-03-15 08:01

    Maybe the devil is an albino?

      WPWW - 2011-03-15 10:57

      Yup, now thats god awful ugly

  • Moi1980 - 2011-03-15 08:01

    And this is what we have educating our children????

  • Sword&Cross - 2011-03-15 08:01

    The fruits of the Racist and backward directed ANC propaganda and rhetoric spewing hatred and racism amongst the youth are coming home to roost. Umalusi has delivered a CLEAR message that they are merely following the racist ANC's policy's in lowering the education levels even further in an attempt to show that millions of blacks that have zero capacity for comprehension or understanding are geniuses. The outrageous levels of NON service and maintenence and planning or steady budgeting are direct results from the ANC NOT REACHING OUT to those citizens that do have experience but are of the opposed colour. Solution in the racist ANC eyes, is "throw more money at the problem BUT do not engage with white citizens" even if there is no more money for the next 20 years as stated by Gordhan last week. The ANC has let the nation down and it's racism against whites is crippling it and the country. There simply are NOT ENOUGH criminal indians to fill the gap, nor even to import from outside. SO realize, that when you appoint the most stupid as leader surrounded by even more stupid that practice jumping around burned out fires in the dirt outside each day, that the phrase "Dust to Dust, Ashes to Ashes" means different things to different people. A destroyed SA is heaven to zanu-pf type ANC blacks and money from the western nations will always pour in to fix a few problems. Even the "International White Management Forum" has spoken out against the racist ANC.

  • Eric - 2011-03-15 08:22

    The government is getting....its like there is happy grass or laughing gas....intelligence is just not on the books. And what about the rest of us Pagans are we evil or are they still getting to that. Where did they fish out this “retard”. Man, I was hoping mallema was the last, I mean this is hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • Sylvia - 2011-03-15 08:25

    Probably thinks he can get away with these comments because he has muti from his pet witch doctor.

      Kobus - 2011-03-16 15:54

      bet you that same muti is itching his balls , now he is on a rampage :P OH NO no rhino hornnnnnn toooo

  • Masilo - 2011-03-15 08:29

    The school principal must be fired.we are building a country here, not a spaza shop

  • princess.arlene - 2011-03-15 09:07

    ... and the tooth fairy said to her fairy friends at the bottom of the garden : ".... and these humans actually VOTE for the ANC!! What a fairy- story!!"

  • Darwinian - 2011-03-15 09:13

    there is no such thing as satan...dont worry about it!

      flames - 2011-03-15 16:51

      are you absolutely sure?

      Pdevillet - 2012-06-02 21:33

      men is quite capable to do evil on his own

  • Nice Guy - 2011-03-15 09:16

    Jesus is one hell of a racist. Appears white even though he lived in Israel with no sunblock. Wait till the blacks get to heaven and then have to go in through the servants entrance

  • noremac - 2011-03-15 09:18

    O no im going to hell....good thing im a atheist and don't believe that.however coming from a former Christian its funny to me how some body can make a statement like that over religion when its so blatantly clear he has no idea what Christianity is about,for a statement like that would be counter productive in a religious context.i think he should stick to what he knows and start insulting his comrades intelligence by stating that if they don't vote ANC the tokeloshe will get them.ignorance is bliss.and sad.

  • mm - 2011-03-15 09:24

    So now even God is a racist? White people are satanists, ANC cardholders have tickets to heaven. It is truly amazing how arrogant they have become in such a short time. They are so drunk with power that they are not only taking on whites, or black opposition parties, or twitter, they are now even speaking for God. The wheel is turning and they are speeding it up.

      Kobus - 2011-03-16 15:56

      "sorry but umm , your ANC money is not valid here in heaven" crumbhead anc polititian: oh esh :D

  • Point Blank - 2011-03-15 09:38

    And the racist hate speech against white people continue... but hey we the racists right? NO such thing as a black racist right?

  • Boerseun - 2011-03-15 09:45

    This same council of churches were fighting to get RSA and the rest opf Africa under commie control, so they should rather shut up.

      Stuartthom - 2011-03-15 10:39

      100% correct. Tutu with his big mouth now was one of them as well. Now everyone loves him but he was one of the creators of this new sa

      Rustum X - 2011-04-12 11:17

      Define "commie"

  • Leonardus - 2011-03-15 10:23

    Thi is childish and stupid , why bring in God if the fight is between stupid people that dont know God . Those who judge christians will be judged , beleive what you wanna believe and leave the christians alone . Those kind of people are allover and not in a condition to judge , they dont know whats going on and want to be seen or heared .

  • Objective - 2011-03-15 10:40

    It's so ironic... Christianity is essentially a European religion i.e. amalgamation of Euro-pagananism and the original Hebrew religion (not Judaism/Talmudism). Yet white people are called satanists according to their own religion? What's more, Hebrews took pride in their incredibly fair skin (they are the ancestors of the Scythians, Phenoecians, etc) and associated it with light, whilst other races of their time (with darker complexion) were associated with darkness. At the same time early Christians were required to show blue veins under their arms before qualifying for acceptance. With all this in mind, a native African playing the race card in Christianity just blows my mind. Cognitive dissonance...

      Shaun - 2011-03-15 15:33

      Objective, since when did you become an expert on Christianity??? Jesus is the light of the world and light is made up of all colours. Bible prophesy will once again bear witness to the KING of KINGS and Lord of Lords in a few short years from now. Israel is going to wipe out Damascus and Jerusalem is already a stumbling block to the nations as prophesied thousands of years ago. I thank god for my Black, Indian, Collared and white brothers in this beautiful land called South Africa.

  • Melly30 - 2011-03-15 10:42

    Dear Lord, Please save our counrty from the ANC and it's comrades... THEY ARE THE RACIST ONES... Little do they know they are ALL going to hell with their STUPID supporters!!!!

  • WPWW - 2011-03-15 10:55

    Talk about demonising the white race, quite rich coming from a son of darkness

      flames - 2011-03-15 17:00

      Dehumanising is the step before an attack.. in Rwanda the Tutsi's were called cochroaches. It allows the aggressors to disengage from thinking they are fellow human beings but rather aliens.

  • Sazi - 2011-03-15 12:54

    why does it all have to turn to race or political party? if u dont like wht is happening go and vote, if u need to critisize do dat on that particular individual...... yo generalization brings an image of racist community...... of which leads to the anc winning elections... with such comments no wonder there is such division in this country...........

      Objective - 2011-03-15 13:35

      I would say that the ANC is quite consistant with the "generalizations" being made here. We can't help it if you don't like the facts. How can issues like this not be about race in the face of BEE, or when black on white murder reaches genocidal levels far exceeding the numbers of Apartheid or even USA-Allied casualties in the current war in the Middle East. White people have concerns, and those concerns are legitimate.

  • Jennifer - 2011-03-15 14:07

    "satanise" Good Grief is that even a word??? Moss Senye I think you need to go back to school!!!!

  • Khangelani - 2011-03-15 14:13

    I pesonally do agree with the SACC that such atterances undermine the maturing democracy and also urge South Africans to ignore such statement said by Senye. It is very unfortunate that certain people's conducts are actually a desgrace.

  • leraz/kuyuz - 2011-03-15 15:30

    here we go again south africa, yho! what is wrong with the ANC and its alliance partners? these guys are plain rude these days. anyway what do you expect from a government run by a lunatic such as zuma?

  • leraz/kuyuz - 2011-03-15 15:32


  • Mpho Thelejane - 2011-03-16 14:55

    I am not sure if you are either supporting the belief that "satan" is referred to as "black" For I now a satan is any believer or supporter of the fallen angels for they all hold onto a belief that their soles are not given a fair chance hence they practice the doctorines of lucifer, Nimrod and all other stalwarts in their hierarchy.

  • Annelie - 2011-03-17 23:33

    The ANC leaders just can't control their hate anymore.. they just have to spill their rotten thoughts in every meeting they attend.. So sad.. wonder who's got the problem with who?

  • Johan - 2011-03-22 11:20

    Bronze age superstition... poisons everything.

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