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Cop shot dead in road rage incident

2012-08-20 09:43

Johannesburg - An East Rand police constable shot dead a police captain in front of his son in an apparent road rage incident at the weekend, according to a report on Monday.

The two officials, both of whom were off-duty, were involved in a collision near the Katlehong shopping centre on Saturday evening, Beeld reported.

According to police spokesperson Pinky Tsinyane, the men did not know each other, as they worked in different parts of Johannesburg.

The 29-year old constable, who was in a white Polo, got out of his car after the collision and confronted the captain, who was in a white Toyota Corolla.

"There was a heated exchange, during which the constable allegedly shot the captain, hitting him in the leg," Tsinyane said.

They both returned to their respective vehicles, but the captain, of Brackendowns police station in Alberton, reportedly decided to approach his assailant again, and he ended up assaulting him inside the Polo.

According to the deceased's son, who reportedly witnessed the entire incident, the constable then fired a shot from inside the car, killing the captain.

Tsinyane said the constable, of Zonkiziswe police station in Kathlehong, would appear in the Katlehong Magistrate's Court later on Monday in connection with the murder.

Comments
  • JasonMichelle - 2012-08-20 09:46

    Hope this "cop" gets put away for a loooong time!

      chris.novak.9235 - 2012-08-20 10:02

      Say goodbye to your son for a very long time as well now. Stupid stupid!!

      JohhnyBGood - 2012-08-20 10:14

      @Chris, the guy that got killed had a son. Not the killer. "According to the deceased's son, who reportedly witnessed the entire incident ..."

      atholl.canterbury - 2012-08-20 10:23

      If you're 'OFF' duty - then that's it - your WEAPON is also 'OFF' duty. Their weapons should be in safe storage : ... in the case of the constable - in the Station safe. ... in the case of the Captain - in your Home safe.

      mofstok - 2012-08-20 10:32

      Tragic! Atholl, we live in South Africa: Off-Duty policemen get murdered too, they must keep their guns on them. An off-duty policeman foiled a robbery at a Soweto surgery yesterday. Rather train the police more and give the one's who need it counselling. Road rage is a killer.

      atholl.canterbury - 2012-08-20 11:04

      Mofstok is right. OFF duty policeman with OFF duty weapons is a rational solution from rational reasoning. Road Rage is an Irrational Situation that requires an Irrational-Rational Solution. Rational Solution for the Rational (responsible) policemen. Irrational Solution for the Irrational (irresponsible) policeman.

  • miyo27 - 2012-08-20 09:48

    wow! even the police are at war with each other. Not only that, but someone is willing to go as far as killing a fellow human being just for having a collision with him? damn! It makes me sad to think that this is what the once beautiful south africa has become - a dangerous violent country where you can't even crash your car without being murdered.

      leesmit1 - 2012-08-20 09:54

      I couldn't agree with you more @miyo27. Cops killing cops even if they didn't know each other. They both made a pledge to serve and protect. Surely they should have used reason and just exchanged details like any other citizen should!

      UNITY - 2012-08-20 10:49

      \Road rage\gets the best of everyone, the fact that these were policemen, doesn't mean its isolated, it means that as a society, the effects of violence,are becoming intolerable and counselling for police , in schools and society should become complusory where symptoms are exposed, as a nation that is faced with this pandemic on a daily basis.

  • renier.a.viviers - 2012-08-20 09:49

    When the police start shooting at each other?? Just sad!

  • Thebe Hlahatsi - 2012-08-20 09:53

    hai! i give up now, last week they wanted us to feel sorry for them & now they are killing each other? clearly these guys are a danger to themselves & definitely to the public.

      renier.a.viviers - 2012-08-20 09:58

      Ja so who do we phone when were in trouble? I surely don't want to phone the police! Don't know if they can be trusted!!

      kala.bafazi - 2012-08-20 10:04

      @Renier - They would probably arrive at the scene and start shooting each other.

      renier.a.viviers - 2012-08-20 10:15

      Or even help the criminals! Who knows! Nowadays anything is possible in SA! I'm a very positve guy but always expect the worst!

      mfrater - 2012-08-20 10:36

      @renier "I'm a very positve guy but always expect the worst!" Um? that is a total contradiction, lol.

      renier.a.viviers - 2012-08-20 12:46

      Lol oky ja it was a bit! But you know what I mean! Lol

  • lownabester - 2012-08-20 09:55

    OMW, Now they killing each other is it not enough that so many lose their lives by the bad guys,

  • dino.peterson - 2012-08-20 09:56

    Stupid Constables, these young cops are so trigger happy. The irony here is that a friend of mine was shot 3 times and killed while I was shot 5 times in the back and paralysed by a cop from Katlehong SAPS. My hatred is not toward cops in general, but toward those young gangsters who can't afford to buy their own guns, who suddenly become mucho after becoming cops

      mfrater - 2012-08-20 10:37

      Why were you and your friend shot by Police in the first place?

      dino.peterson - 2012-08-20 10:52

      if you implying I'm a criminal you highly mistaken. We were standing and talking. My friend was a DJ, this cop was drinking with 2 ladies inside the nightclub, he apparently he is a druggie and was on drugs that night. He just pulled his firearm and started shooting at us. Probably trying to impress the 2 ladies him and his other cop friend was with. Wonder how you'd react if it were you or one of your loved ones

  • Rudolf - 2012-08-20 09:58

    The "constable" is going to get off pleading 'self defence', mark my words.. Even though he shot the captain first, he then returned to his vehicle. Again being confronted, he will be deemed "cornered in his vehicle, unable to retreat" thus the second (fatal) shooting will be ruled self defence. It won't be prosecuted further than the news24' comment section.

      israel.maseko.5 - 2012-08-20 10:02

      That is true Rudolf, because he firstly shot him in his leg in order to pull out from the argument and the Deceased followed him in his car that is when he was killed.

      renier.a.viviers - 2012-08-20 10:23

      Onother trigger happy pliceman|crimenal will be released!

  • Sakhiwo - 2012-08-20 10:00

    So unfortunate of them becoming violent to each other.It just show that police in our days are more like animals

  • michael.barns.1 - 2012-08-20 10:04

    spare a thought for the poor child who just witnessed his dad get murdered.

  • ashley.keung1 - 2012-08-20 10:09

    Just shows how they all think they above the law, he should get death sentence

  • Desilusionada - 2012-08-20 10:10

    South Africa is supposed to be THE example of post-colonial success, peaceful transition and showcasing how well a black majority country is supposed to function. Well it is going worse than pre-94....?

  • dino.peterson - 2012-08-20 10:18

    Some say it's self defense, did u forget he fired the 1st shot hitting the Captain in the leg which is completely unwarranted. That on it's own is attempted murder. Whether the Captain went back to fight with him is really besides the point. That is clearly a trigger happy constable

  • collinml - 2012-08-20 10:22

    It is really terrifying and sad that society has become so violent.People seem to have lost the value of human life.Everyday we hear of horrific violent crimes right from primary school level.Are people becoming so violent because the law does not deal with it effectively.People need to be prosecuted with jail time and not suspended sentences or else violence will become second nature to people.

  • Small.Mbongwa - 2012-08-20 10:23

    There is a serious problem of ethics in SAPS and it has been proven that seemingly most of the Police Officers do not know how to behave as Police Officers, some of them don't even know what they are responsible for. This also is a same problem with the Leadership of the SAPS, we are sitting on a time bomb> Lack of Leadership>Lack of System to combat crime>Lack of Human Resource>Lack of Innovation>Lack of Strategy> etc>

  • carolyn.dewrance - 2012-08-20 10:25

    Black on black. and really not trained as police men just thugs. They both deserve what they got.Most probably both had been drinking as well, and were really hyped up. Stupid accident ,stupid way to solve it, but that is what is taught in the police force now. Idiots and if you delete me it will still be on my face book page.

  • Mpotsiseng - 2012-08-20 10:28

    I know cops are human and all... But arent they trained to control their emotions? I mean an incident like shouldn't even phase them... Guess their egos got the best of them. MEGAFAIL

  • zimbobwe.mugabe - 2012-08-20 10:30

    Gullible and totally naive. If I was shot in the leg I would rush myself to the hospital to avoid loss of blood. Assaulting a gun wielding police thug with your bare hands is asking for trouble. The warning signs were there that this cop is a mad trigger happy man!!!

  • joe.peters.56 - 2012-08-20 10:34

    Vote DA

  • thamsanqa.magolego - 2012-08-20 10:34

    What is the problem with these police officers?!I think all the police officers should apply for their jobs again and this time they must employ the right people

  • andre.vandeventer.16 - 2012-08-20 10:35

    Life is cheap in SA because there is no death penalty!

      mike.bundy.73 - 2012-08-20 15:34

      What nonsense, in the US the ten states with the highest murder rate do also enforce the death penalty. It is not a deterrent at all.

      dimitripappas - 2012-08-20 16:18

      @Mike: Maybe it doesn't seem like a deterrent to you... If a murderer gets sentenced to the death penalty, that's 1 less murderer on the streets - and that means a reduced chance of another innocent murder victim. Not so? That's a fact. If that's a fact, then I think we've found a deterrent.

  • Thabiso Phinda - 2012-08-20 10:40

    let them kill each other or they will kill us

  • thereevos - 2012-08-20 10:41

    It is very sad.....however I do have one thing to say and take it how you want but black police officers do not have any respect for firearms and they prove it over and over again.the news is always littered with stories of how a black police officers use their service pistols on their own girlfriends/wives in domestic arguments and have a the tendencies to use them wilky nilly

      beki.khumalo - 2012-08-20 10:54

      Let's try and engage on this please, if we may. Are you saying that one's skin colour has a bearing on their actions? Factors such as their mental functions at any given time should not be considered as relevant? It's strictly about their skin colour? In my view, it's rather shallow of one to conclude such matters on racial lines. It indicates one's lack of ability to reason logically, therefore a lack of some education. Are you uneducated or is because you DON'T know black people, but you think you do?

      Khayelihle Gum Mnyamezeli - 2012-08-20 15:23

      how do u know dat? u talkng nonsense marn

      mike.bundy.73 - 2012-08-20 16:28

      Well said beki

  • phillippusrudolph.smith - 2012-08-20 10:44

    There are a couple of aspects that come to mind. Firstly, should off duty policemen carry their service pistols with them whilst off duty? Secondly at the point where the constable shot the captain in the leg, surely he should have reported the issue to authorities as opposed to going back to assault the constable knowing that he was armed. Crazy!! These are the citazens that should set the example. What a tragedy. So many South Africans need Anger Management Training. Statistics prove that we as a nation are far to violent for our own good. My condolences to the widow and son.

      don.odendaal - 2012-08-20 10:50

      Police are never really off duty and as such should always carry the firearm. But they should be properly trained and competent, otherwise they should not be in possession of a firearm in the first place.

      siyaz.mcitakali.3 - 2012-08-20 11:12

      Police are never off duty but I'm with you that him being a commissioned officer should have known better to handle the situation as he was already shot. But there is always another side of the story . I think that it was just his day to end his journey in life because I'll never go to assault someone who had just shot me

  • tiaan.truter - 2012-08-20 10:45

    Yes because this "the men did not know each other, as they worked in different parts of Johannesburg" is an excuse to shoot someone else...Whats happening to SA ???

      buddynorm.malope - 2012-08-20 11:16

      Please brief me of what transpired in NW, Marikana Mine, Phiyega mention that cop don’t have to feel guilty of the shooting.

  • rebecca.robyn - 2012-08-20 10:51

    Why Peter? Will we stop the senseless killing of each other? Will we learn to control our tempers? Will we be more tolerant towards each other? Will we learn to curb our egos and be less arrogant? Will we care more for each other? If anyone on earth can make that happen, the world can become a better place to live in-both men were wrong here...but, the deceased had his son with him, so why show your child all can be resolved with anger and violence if you don't get your way???the answer, I'm afraid does not lie with self-serving politics, but within ourselves...as human beings

  • beki.khumalo - 2012-08-20 11:06

    Stupidity kills. Period!

  • denise.wilshire - 2012-08-20 11:26

    This is just so, so sad. What a total waste! That poor child my heart goes out to all involved. Our police are under such stress. Get to know the inside story before you judge.

      renier.a.viviers - 2012-08-20 13:00

      @denise, yes they might be under a lot of stress, but why fight and kill? There are other ways of handeling the situation! And as police officers they should know that! I am not judging anyone, but just reading this article breaks my heart to know what people are doing and how far they will go to end a sitution? That's just how I feel! I will pray for that son because that's just a scenary no one should see!

  • godesha - 2012-08-20 11:41

    When are people going to learn that violence does not solve any problems?

  • ndlelenhle.nyathi - 2012-08-20 14:09

    Does it mean dat if dey knew each other dey wouldnt shoot each other. 2ndly hw r we going 2 bliev dat da shooting dat happened in da mine was self dfence if da South African polices are bhaving lyk dis even 2 one another.

  • Aubrey - 2012-08-20 20:48

    THEY KILL MINERS LASTWEEK AND NOW THEMSELF WHAT IS WRONG WITH THOSE FULLS.

  • sandile.filita - 2012-08-21 01:00

    Eish, Police, what a mess.

  • eric.f.moloi - 2012-08-21 01:02

    Fatal encounter:he wish he didnt choose a cop job as a career,nw he is facing a serious charge of murder

  • kwenaeza - 2012-09-12 11:40

    Trigger happy cop

  • mocan.jack - 2012-09-12 22:06

    Juju, are you going to court to support the constable? Not an undermining question. Lol

  • ken.koen - 2012-10-11 08:48

    And these cops are the people who are entrusted to protect the public and enforce law and order? Is this for real? Are these normally intelligent people?

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