Cops abused after pulling Winnie's car over

2011-01-12 08:04

Johannesburg - Winnie Madikizela-Mandela is demanding an apology from two police officers who pulled over her car on the M1 highway because it was weaving recklessly through traffic at 150km/h.

"Who the fuck do you think you are," she repeatedly yelled at him and his colleagues, Warrant Officer Jannie Odendaal said on Tuesday.

"I didn't recognise her since she had white powder all over her face and looked much older than when I'd last seen her."

Odendaal, a member of the Gauteng police flying squad, said the occupants of the vehicle refused to identify themselves.

"I've been working my arse off in the police for 19 years and now I have to apologise to her for doing my job," said Odendaal.

A general in the office of the Gauteng chief of police, Lieutenant General Mzwandile Petros, told Odendaal that he would accompany them to Madikizela-Mandela so they can apologise.

Petros apologetic

Petros would then apologise on behalf of the police.

"I don't know if I still belong in the police if this is the way they treat me.

"It looks like they're accepting Ms Madikizela-Mandela's word above my own," said Odendaal.

At about 09:50 on December 30 2010, Odendaal and his colleague - who doesn't want to be identified or discuss the events - pulled over a silver Audi A6 at the Jan Smuts Avenue off ramp on the M1 north.

On orders from Petros, they were pulling over and searching vehicles.

According to Odendaal they had already noticed and followed the Audi at the Xavier Road off ramp.

"We decided to pull over the Audi and switched on our sirens and lights," Odendaal said.

The car, which has tinted windows, only stopped about 5km further.


"A man jumped out and yelled: 'Who the hell do you think you are to want to search this vehicle, we are not in the era of apartheid any more'," Odendaal said.

The man appeared to be one of Madikizela-Mandela's bodyguards. He bumped Odendaal against the chest, according to Odendaal.

"I fetched a taser from our vehicle to scare him off. He then said they are accompanying Ms Madikizela-Mandela and they're very late."

Odendaal's colleague insisted that he wanted to identify Madikizela-Mandela himself, but the man refused.

Odendaal says he and his colleagues were in full police uniform.

Madikizela-Mandela got out, yelled at them, and instructed her bodyguard and driver to drive on.

According to Odendaal they logged the incident, but no complaint was laid because they felt "nothing would come of it since it's Madikizela-Mandela".


Last week they were informed that Madikizela-Mandela, her bodyguard and driver had submitted three complaints against them.

Odendaal says he was initially willing to swallow his pride and apologise, but has since changed his mind.

He and his colleague were transferred to other departments in the police on Friday until an internal investigation can be completed.

"We were asked to write a report and did so. We had to go to the provincial office where a general said Madikizela-Mandela would withdraw the complaints against us if we apologise to her."

Colonel Neville Malila, police spokesperson, said on Tuesday that a complaint of pointing a firearm and intimidation is being investigated against Odendaal and his colleague.

An internal investigation is also underway.

He said the bodyguards submitted these complaints. According to him the two policemen didn't speak to Petros and the case is considered sub judice.

Zodwa Zwane, Madikizela-Mandela's spokesperson, referred Beeld to "the minister or the commissioner of police".


  • LooneyTune - 2011-01-12 08:13

    Who is she to be above the law!! i say charge them and put them in JAIL for a couple days to show that they are not above the law and must abide by it

      mduduzik - 2011-01-12 08:54

      @Looney who is going to charge her? its JOKE

      Christine - 2011-01-12 09:16

      Winnie has always shown appalling behaviour. For whatever reason she is Above The Law. Is she a God? Succeeding in breaking in our New Democacy and getting away with it. Remember Stompie that youngster who's killing she was implicated in and the Fraud at ANC woman's league. She makes me want to Vomit. Winnie you are going to Hell!!!

      The Patriot - 2011-01-12 09:45

      That was Winnies anti smoking campaign, Stamp out Stompies.

      Arthur Phili - 2011-01-12 09:54

      This is what you get when you outlaw a political party (Apartheid years).. only criminals get involved with it and start running it and before you know a former terrorist organisation is ruling the country.. icons incl. murderers like Winnie. Every other youngster who aspire to be like them go out killing innocent people like the ANC members did. Can you imagine working for a company that has a little more than 500 employees and has the following statistics: 29 have been accused of spousal abuse 7 have been arrested for fraud 19 have been accused of writing bad cheques 117 have directly or indirectly bankrupted at least 2 businesses 3 have done time for assault 71 cannot get a credit card due to bad credit 14 have been arrested on drug-related charges 8 have been arrested for shoplifting 21 are currently defendants in lawsuits 84 have been arrested for drunk driving in the last year 373 in total or approximately 70% Can you guess which organization this is? It's the 535 members of the SOUTH AFRICAN PARLIAMENT Just look how many deaths the ANC's activities caused during Apartheid, now that they rule the country 79 people die everyday because of their greed, corruption, ineptitude and their general criminally inclined minds.

      LaLia - 2011-01-12 09:59

      I totally agree. If they don't make examples of these people, pretty soon others will follow. And if she was late for some reason...Tough Crap! If she had planned properly, she would not have had to drive like a maniac.

      Bren - 2011-01-12 10:02

      We have to accept that there is one law for us common folk and totally different law for people like Winnie. That is just the way it is in South Africa.

      LuCypher - 2011-01-12 10:06

      Hey Arthur Phili - Don't quote f***king merrykin figures and hope to make a point. The 535 are members of the US Congress. South Africa has 649 sitting MP's. This is about the Winnie creature - not about being smart . . .

      Ares - 2011-01-12 10:19

      This Wini diki miki ziki mandela is by far worse than Jezebel and Delilah put together.

      Arthur Phili - 2011-01-12 10:34

      Well thats what I get for quoting other people without verifying. However the ANC is a terrorist organisation, that much has been and is true. Murderers incl. Mandela himself who endorsed violence have become icons and heroes to the nation and people ask why South Africa is in such chaos.

      SaintBruce - 2011-01-12 11:57

      In the USA it would be simple: STOP , GET OUT OF THE CAR ( to driver) HANDS ON ROOF LEGS SPREAD All this while the officer(s) guns are drawn with safety on and pointed at the suspect ( driver) . Anyone else gets out the car - same story - immobilised. Driving at the speed mentioned is criminal behaviour as a start. I support the Cop who says he will NOT apologise for doing his duty. To be verbally abused as an officer representing EVERY citizen of this country is unacceptable. If the Police Chief does not back up his man, he is a spineless jellyfish and does not deserve the office he holds as a PUBLIC PROTECTOR! Weaving at over 150 km/h on the busy N1 ....not stopping with blue lights behind for 5 km = resisting the rule of law. LOCK THEM UP, take away driver's licences, impound the vehicle( it had no blue lights, no escort therefore must be driven like the rest of us - no exceptions). Notice - I have not mentioned WHO was in or driving the car - just that the News 24 survey says - how do we change the death toll - change behaviour and stricter enforcement are the top votes. So - where do we start?

      Assegaai - 2011-01-12 12:05

      And who do you think is going to put them in jail?

      Ares - 2011-01-12 12:23

      @Arthur Phili Totally agree with you my friend.

      CTS - 2011-01-12 12:41

      Arthur don't feel bad - the figures you've quoted make our Govt look good - the real figures are much worse!

      lenand40 - 2011-01-12 13:36

      I presume you know all the facts and you are not commenting based on the dislike of Winnie. It would be a shame if we insisted on law enforcement only on those we dislike. Would you stop for cops in unform on the road, where there is no roadblock and they are driving a private car? I wouldn't. I would not put this past Winnie, but certainly do not trust the Cop's story as it does not make sense. Was he using a certified device to determine the speed of the Audi?

      lenand40 - 2011-01-12 13:39

      @Arthur Phil Do you often quote facts without double checking them? Why would we believe anything else after you showed yourself to be so ignorant of something you believe? LuCypher: Actually, members of parliament amount to only 400 MPs

      Charl - 2011-01-12 14:03

      Khoisan, who said anything about Black?

      PikeLee - 2011-01-12 15:17

      @Khoisan. You don't have a valid argument, so you revert to getting personnel. Shows ignorance doesn't it. And that is being as politically correct as I can manage at the moment. With all the garbage being spewed by idiots. Hell, valid isn't even the right word, nothing you said makes sense! Try typing slower, use google translate for the words that you cannot understand, and who knows, maybe some of us will understand what you are trying to say. I think I can kind of make out what you are on about. But before I call you a complete fool, try again:)

      Md - 2011-01-12 18:38

      A couple of day's ? Maybe they should ope sealion island again.

      Khoisan - 2011-01-12 18:39

      Pike Lee, that's exactly my point, you and Modefan are not schooled to participate in a political debate, hence you have to rely on Google to bail you out. Offer an alternative to the ANC's Policy Statement, idiot. I guess, your brains are to shallow to come up with viable alternatives. Why don't you lot publicly band together and start your own revolution or should I say, Vaderland.

      Anne - 2011-01-12 20:14

      Mr Khoisan, what is your opinion on somebody driving at 150 km/h, dangerously weaving in and out of traffic, and refusing to stop when ordered by police?

      Adrenalin - 2011-01-13 06:37

      They spend half their lives in Jail, is just like a second home, they deserve something else

      PikeLee - 2011-01-13 06:44

      @Khoisan. HUH? all i got was "blah blah blah, blah blah blah" I hear the same thing when my mother in law talks... Please repeat what you said, in English please. Still can't make out what your point is. I did get the "political debate part however" If your idea of a political debate is to throw insults around, then you obviously have no idea how a debate works. Did you even go to school? I did mention google. Google "Debate" the result might surprise you. But then again someone with your intellect will call google racist when you don't agree with the meaning, and try to shut it down. Rather keep quiet and let people think that you are a fool, than to open your mouth and to confirm it.

      Dan - 2011-01-13 06:58

      @Arthur Phili. You are dead right. Just add the lokes of Peter Mokaba, Shithead Malema, terrorist MacBride and not to forget our own ex-chief of police - now world wide known for being a mafia criminal. Yes, makes one think.

      mrcrusher9 - 2011-01-13 07:33

      They should have done us all a big favour and just shot that black bitch and her 2 strays - she think she is above every thing - fuck say sorry for what doing your job bullshit- she is a waste of fresh air and tax payers money

      PikeLee - 2011-01-13 08:15

      @ Khoisan Ok, I have no idea what point you are trying to make, so I am going to comment on your sentences individually. Modefan. I'm loving it, no need to brag about it.(loving the fact that you cannot see over your dashboard? Your new BEE position? The fact that when you grease your head to stick it up your ass in the morning, you still have some grease left for your arms? Plus it makes your head shine. Pity no one can see the shine though) We know that you are the cheerleader or is that queer leader of the Political Idiots Fan Club of Zuid-Afrika.(Political idiots? Only political idiots I can think are the people currently in our government. I doubt he is a fan of JZ, Julius and the likes on our politicians, that you just called idiots. Well done, only thing that you have said that makes sense. A pity that the context you used it in was a bit off though) All you are educated for is to denigrate blacks(well, I am sure that he was not included in this current crop of matrics. At 30% for a pass mark, it seems our current crop has the same education that you speak about.) and your sorry ass has not intellect.(have you been checking out Modefans ass?) No wander you people were expelled from Europe(please, enlighten us as to when the Europeans, got expelled from Europe.) Contributed fuck all to development(Please enlighten us as to what the balck people contributed to development? I do recall reading that the Europeans arrived here to find very developed mud huts. They must have thought they landed in the future with all the technology the Zulu’s possessed ), but being common thugs(The pot calling the kettle black? No racism intended) hey Mr. Van Riebeeck(I think you have Van Riebeek confused with someone else. Take your head out your ass, and you might just see it) . Not once have you offered an alternative point, policy or strategy, your brain is to shallow, me guess.(Please sir, let us see your alternative point, policy or strategy, or is your brain is to shallow, me guess) Ps, I would rather say, I guess, and not at the end of the sentence either. Just adds that doofus accent to an otherwise toneless comment. Pike Lee, that's exactly my point, you and Modefan are not schooled to participate in a political debate(yes, we don’t attend ANC youth league rallies ), hence you have to rely on Google to bail you out(I actually suggest google to you, to help you out. Maybe I should write in stupid. You should be able to understand then?). Offer an alternative to the ANC's Policy Statement(I do, will give it to you as soon as I am finished wiping my ass with it.) idiot. I guess, your brains are to shallow to come up with viable alternatives(shallow brains? That’s a new one. Shame, you are really bad at this. As far as viable alternative, viable alternative for what? The govt. No idea, I was thinking maybe an IQ test as a prerequisite, and it has to be above 20 before you can be allowed to be president). Why don't you lot publicly band together and start your own revolution or should I say, Vaderland.(good idea, we will sing kill the zulu, we can harmonize with the idiots singing kill the boer in the field next door)

      glcroy001 - 2011-01-13 10:25

      @pikelee: Shoo, i cant believe im even being sucked into this, but brother, your comments are absolutely disgusting man. how can you conceivably talk to another human being like that? such anger and resentment that i havent heard in a long time. i dont wish to berate you any further, but i do have this to say: 'Be the change you wish to see in the world'. dont talk about how disgusting Winnie is, when your language, attitude and demeanor is just as rancid.

      Lukas - 2011-01-13 10:53

      Please join the support group on Facebook.

      PikeLee - 2011-01-13 10:59

      @glcroy001. You have me all wrong buddy. I am reacting to some idiot attacking others, with no valid argument, the only purpose is to belittle and insult. Did you even read what that idiot said? Racist bile! I assume that you are in the same boat as that idiot, as you defend his bigoted comments. Please, don't confuse my sarcasm for anything else but that. And don't try to categorize me either. I don't have to defend myself for anything I have said. Especially to you! Please, berate away if you feel the need. You will not hurt my feeling, or change my opinion. You make it sound as if your opinion is to be feared? Don't make me laugh. So get off of your high horse and smell the coffee, you are not as awesome as you think.

      PikeLee - 2011-01-13 11:02

      @glcroy001. ps, please point out exactly where I mentioned winnie? Did you even read what I said? Obviously not. So don't pretend to read, and then comment on what I say. "Getting pulled into this" So you feel that bigot needs to be defended?

      Karen - 2011-01-13 14:43

      @Lenand40 - you arsehole you !!

  • Rooikoppie - 2011-01-12 08:14


      nathang247 - 2011-01-12 09:42

      Me too. Damn.

      lmduplessis - 2011-01-12 12:01

      I'd say if the officers had pointed their firearms they were entirely justified. If the bodyguard had "bumped" the officer on the chest he could easily have chrged the *sshole with Assaulting an officer of the law

      Jack - 2011-01-12 12:55

      Animal Farm!

      Mike - 2011-01-13 08:01

      @Jack: I agree - Animal Farm - "All animals are equal, some animals are more equal than others" - George Orwell. God save us - this place is going to be worse than Zim.

  • Fred - 2011-01-12 08:16

    Anyone who apologises to this arrogant piece of s**t needs his head read. She should be charged just like anyone else. Winnie is not above the law, although all these ANC bigwigs seeem to think they are, and the ridiculous thing is that the more they break the law the more respect they seem to get from the rest of the party, and the less the law applies to them.

      lmduplessis - 2011-01-12 12:03

      The problem is is that they'll probably loos their jobs, get demoted or get transferred to a godforsaken s*ht hole of a post if they don't apologise. Sad and regrettable, but thats how the ANC works these days. If the same thing had happened in The UK or Europe, they'd have been arrested then and there.

      ronbonjon - 2011-01-12 15:55

      Fred - she got away with murder, this is a walk in the park for her

      Karen - 2011-01-13 14:44

      Right said Fred. Too right Fred!

  • taryn.bannister - 2011-01-12 08:16

    Above the Law !!

      Jamesons - 2011-01-12 11:57

      Lets see if our police commissioner Cele has a backbone and stand behind his man. Or, he is a puppet Is he a man or a puppet.

      ant 1 - 2011-01-12 13:00


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  • Horza - 2011-01-12 08:16

    IF I tried the same stunt, my car would be full of holes and I would be dead.

      oxygen - 2011-01-12 08:41

      There you go - is that not the truth of it. Well said.

      Jan - 2011-01-12 08:47

      You are right my friend, very right.

      Carl - 2011-01-12 09:53

      shame ajax, big chip on your shoulder then?

      Other Justin - 2011-01-12 10:03

      @AjaxFiko - You sound just like Winnie. WELCOME TO THE PARTY, YOU ARE A PART OF THE PROBLEM!

      lldoidge - 2011-01-12 10:39

      AjaxFuko! What would you say about your metro police that rob and rape innocent people? Most being white? Get over yourself you dumb imbecile!

      tony_w - 2011-01-12 10:51

      @Ajax, sounded much like the case in the USA where I think a white policemen investigated a potential burglary. A black academic was arrested due to arrogant aggressive and disorderly behaviour. The white policeman was (stupidly) accused by the president Obama as acting "stupidly". I mean, how dare he arrest a black academic? Would you also say that Mr Odendaal acted stupidly? And the apparent "white" officer who shot a white person outside Newlands couple of days ago - heard about that?

      seriass - 2011-01-12 10:57

      ajax - windows were tinted u half wit!!how would they know they were black or white. get over yourself. the race card is ssssooooooooo tired. yawn

      Sizwe - 2011-01-12 11:13

      @IIdoidge, a cricket fan-white- is dead at the hands of a "white" traffic official. So do not insinuate things when you can hardly be without blame...

      Perfume - 2011-01-12 11:29

      I have noticed the more CORRUPT the ANC ministers are, the more admiration they receive from their followers!!!!!!!! I keep asking myself why would people admire that which is corrupt

      Bobbi T - 2011-01-12 12:14

      @sizwe - if they were speeding in a car with tinted windows (especially pre-1994) I think the chances are very high they would have been stopped - race card fail dude!

      pointblankza - 2011-01-12 12:20

      @sizwe, you want some salt for that chip on your shoulder. Boohoo, white people get the benefit of the doubt. You sound like a 12 year old who didn't get a sweet.

      lldoidge - 2011-01-12 12:24

      Sizwe, your point is??????

      dewald.galjaard - 2011-01-12 13:19

      Yea. What happened to shoot first ask question later? ;)

      misterjakes - 2011-01-12 14:10

      AjaxFiko, perhaps, but it is not generally whites responsible for the wholesale killing of police officers. Wait for's blacks.

  • Shelley Pembroke - 2011-01-12 08:17

    I'm sorry, am I the only one who doesn't quite understand the grounds for this complaint by the bodyguards? What exactly did the police do that was outside of their job description?

      sean - 2011-01-12 08:56

      Not sure, but i like your picture on twitter :)

      Eternity - 2011-01-12 09:32

      The article says "a complaint of pointing a firearm and intimidation is being investigated against Odendaal and his colleague." Which is not what the Police officers is saying happened as he only mentions the taser and that HE was intimidated by the bodygaurd. If the police officers account is true then it is completely disgusting that they would do this to them for doing their job. No one should be above the law!

      Bobinator - 2011-01-12 09:42

      bit off-topic Sean, but yeah it is a hot pic. lol. The last few lines of the article suggests that the cops drew their weapons (as well as the aforementioned taser), so i'd imagine that is what the complaint is about. I can't stand Winnie, but I don't necessarily trust the cops' version of events either.

      modefan - 2011-01-12 09:55

      @AjaxFiko... you are right, there are 2 sides to a story...but reaaaally, what are the odds that Winnie did not act like she did?

      Kyle_logan - 2011-01-12 10:03

      @Shelley Pembroke - what they did was pull over an ANC member... that is against the law. If you are in the ANC the law cant touch you and all police officer's should know thie by now..

      Pragmatist - 2011-01-12 13:34

      The caught a troglodyte...

      zoolmadool - 2011-01-12 21:27

      shelley link yr photo this way and bugger this other lot . who likes?

  • martingibson1 - 2011-01-12 08:17

    What can I say. When will this end. Certain figures thinking they are above the law. Who gives a shit if you are late. Leave earlier dumb ass!

      Jenna - 2011-01-12 10:11

      ...As if punctuality exists in the new South-Africa,

      Sizwe - 2011-01-12 11:16

      Oh grow up Jenna, tardiness has nothing to do with a country's politics but the individual's values....

      Bman_01 - 2011-01-12 11:18

      We have South Africa standard time its runs on average about 3 hours late

      PB - 2011-01-12 13:08

      Sizwe, unfortunately Jenna is right. But that is besides the point. POINT IS : Prima Donna Winnie (a.k.a. The Teflon Btch) had NO RIGHT to act the way she did. If she got her huge fat arse into gear in time (the way NORMAL people without Friends In High Places do) she would be on time. As what happened to the Arts and Cultcha minister this too will just "go away" - After Odendaal and his partner has either lost their jobs or any will to do their jobs properly. The ANC Government is beyond corrupt and they are going to proove this again by giving in to Winnie - no fine for all the crap she and her entourage caused and forcing a cop (who did what he was supposed to)to grovel. What a pathetic example of the Mother of the Nation. - no wonder we have such a bunch of twats for kids in S.a.

      Blah-blah - 2011-01-12 13:27

      @Sizwe: I think you stumbled upon the crux of all of our woes! People in our country reckon that your personal values and those you so emptily bleat to your supporters (every chance you get and especially if there is a TV camera), does not necessarily have to be one and the same thing. In fact - "Never the twain shall meet." - comes to mind when looking at the odd behaviour being displayed by some. Maybe you don't think that tardiness is a problem, but to the rest of the world it shouts out - zero respect, irresponsible, person of weak character - I could continue, but I'm sure you get the picture. To say that tardiness does not inspire much confidence is a nice way to put it. So - if a person is constantly late and disorganised, it follows that he/ she should not be given a position of responsibility - least of all a political one. Where you have the power to muck up the lives of others (not that such a person would care anyway - clearly).

      ant 1 - 2011-01-12 13:28

      @Sizwe. Did u miss the report about this years matrix

      PB - 2011-01-12 15:06

      Blah-Blah - AMEN BROTHER!

      Iridescent - 2011-01-12 17:00

      @Blah-blah: Well said.

  • Sabsi - 2011-01-12 08:17

    That's live - even a Madame Madikizela-Mandela has to follow the rules!!! And rude is the swearing?! ...what on earth has speeding got to do with Apartheid?! I honestly feel sorry for the policemen!

      Sabsi - 2011-01-12 08:19

      It's supposed to be: And HOW rude is the swearing - seems like I'm still half asleep... ;-)

      crdelport - 2011-01-12 13:05

      Sabsi I really like your comment and if people had the same outlook as you our country wich is Actually "Rich" would be more devoloped and heading into a sense where we are not white and black, we are South Africans. A country that devides itself is the same as sinking ship, theres only enough life boats for the richer and the rest of us middle class to poor drown. We are moving into a new era of the digital age so why not loose the old era's morals and outlooks. I personally cant wait until the age beyond culture and belief...... "Qoute" At the end of the day man only know what he has taught himself "Qoute"

  • Johnny - 2011-01-12 08:17

    Winnie Madikizela-Mandela, ......the UNtouchable.... ....with her matches she will fire the cops....!!

      Zolani - 2011-01-12 09:00

      good one

      Zion - 2011-01-12 11:02

      You say the untouchable: Just the thought of touching her gives me the screaming hebie-gebies. Now you have put me off my lunch for the rest of the day.

      Granny - 2011-01-12 11:33

      I always thought I was the only one who noticed that she powders her face white these days - wishful thinking on her part?

      Bobbi T - 2011-01-12 12:16

      @granny - a Michael Jackson complex starting....

      Subzer0 - 2011-01-12 12:37

      @Granny, are you serious? Have you really seen how many white woman get butt implants, tan..fill up their lips and you believe she envies white people, kwa kwa kwa. You`ve got jokes.

      iJuba - 2011-01-12 16:18

      @ Subzer0 Never heard of butt implants, sorry. Tanning, yes. Lip implants, yes. Making nose flat with large nostrils, never. kwa kwa kwa

      edeneyes88 - 2011-01-13 10:26

      @Ijuba! BAHAHAHAHAHA, good one!

  • Aj - 2011-01-12 08:18

    and you say this is a good c(u)ntry? lol much ?

      Subzer0 - 2011-01-12 12:38

      Siesa, hou op jou naam met n plank slaan.

  • Corné - 2011-01-12 08:18

    Wow...Just shows you the arrogance of some of the politicians. They truely think they are above the law. Good luck with the investigation. Hope you guys wont need to appologise or get any penalty for doing your duty!

  • nthabi.mfetane - 2011-01-12 08:18

    Power Trips...

      Lekabisto - 2011-01-12 10:57

      I agree, All she and her bodyguards had to do was recognise that the cops were doing their jobs, I mean they were speeding after all since she was late, all she had to do was fork out bout R200 or so and we would not be no story to comment on!!!!

      CTS - 2011-01-12 12:47

      It wouldn't have worked, nthabi - they were white!

  • Nutzman - 2011-01-12 08:18

    Winnie obviously think's she still has pull in the government. I would not apologise to her, even if it cost me my job. You go Odendaal.

      Dan - 2011-01-12 09:01

      No Nutzman. This incident shows she STILL HAS influence in government. Makes one shiver when considering the "special" treatment absolute rubbish like Winnie and Malema gets in the country. For this specific reason I always say all the poor millions who suffer in out country deserves to suffer because they support rubbish like this.

      Storm10 - 2011-01-12 09:46

      She has huge pull, make no mistake!

      Other Justin - 2011-01-12 10:09

      Yip Dan, I agree. I can't help but feel sorry for the millions that vote for this useless rubbish because of the huge promises and lies. They are condeming themselves to lives of unhappiness and poverty voting ANC-PF!

      russ - 2011-01-12 10:32

      @Nutzman - although I understand you are supporting Odendaal with your comments, perhaps if it was your job on the line you wouldn't sound so militant. I've worked with members of the SAPS for many years and, although they are hardworking and dedicated, most of them have no other skillset, despite years of policing experience. Where to for A/O Odendaal if they fire him? Already the General has sided with Winnie & co, before any formal investigation has been conducted / concluded. Already the members have been moved to another department - it's ridiculous! I wish we could do more than just pay lip service in support of cops like these. Hopefully justice (and sanity) will prevail ultimately.

      lldoidge - 2011-01-12 10:42

      Other Justin. Don't feel sorry for those who vote for her or her party. You make your bed, you must lie in it!!!!

      maseratifitt - 2011-01-12 11:18

      Ildoidge : The problem is we all share the same bed. It needs fumigation, or a new mattress.

      jwill - 2011-01-12 11:18

      omg, let's be honest here: the only reason she has got ANY influence is because of her former husband. She's not respected, she's feared. If Mandela dies tomorrow.......her clout will change overnight

  • Paul - 2011-01-12 08:18

    Lock the crazy b1tch up. She should be in jail for muder as it is. The anc elite above the law.

      ronbonjon - 2011-01-12 16:05

      thank you paul - someone hasnt forgotten shes a murderess!

  • dekock.lukas - 2011-01-12 08:19

    What the fuck? Because she is some high profile person she can endanger the lives of others on the road? Get away with it and all at the same time get 2 police officers into load of trouble for doing their job? I am confused. Would it not have been better to perhaps have arrested her for resisting and refusing to cooperate? Or is she somehow above the law?

      Dan - 2011-01-12 09:04

      Yes, I think the Chief of Police should actually be suspended pending an investigation. If he acted "against" the law by protecting these rubbish and rather acting against polive officers doing their job - then he should be prosecuted.

      Other Justin - 2011-01-12 10:12

      Yip, it is because of this nonsense that our police are as "effective" as they are. They get paid peanuts and they have to worry that they don't get into trouble doing their job. What a joke!

  • Zolani - 2011-01-12 08:19

    Now you know why I dont Support the rulling Party anymore, to think i was once involved with that lot, NO One should be above the law

      Stevie - 2011-01-12 08:43

      But is this not why people like Winnie and Yengeni fought the freedom struggle? To be above the law?

      Boerseun - 2011-01-12 08:48

      Agreed, that includes all ANC cadres, Zuma, Shabir and family, included.

      otiose - 2011-01-12 09:03

      I agree Stevie, most people fought for freedom. Winnie and Yengeni fought for power.

      Bratt - 2011-01-12 09:24

      @Stevie - you are implying that the freedom struggle was nothing more than a power trip and that the law as it was then (apartheid) was in the right.

      modefan - 2011-01-12 09:59 common, thats clearly not what he said, you're fishing for an argument here

      iJuba - 2011-01-12 10:19

      @ Bratt please refrain from talking crap....not gonna take your bait

      Zion - 2011-01-12 11:14

      Bratt, from what we are seeing to day it has become obvious that the struggle was nothing more than a power trip. And yes, a power trip by criminals as we see every day in the news. The law during apartheid was applied to all and sundry without exception. Use your mental acuity and for a few seconds only remove all aspects of apartheid from the law then you will discover the enforcement of the law was far superior than what it is today.

      Bratt - 2011-01-12 13:48

      Remember that there were more people involved in the struggle than Winnie Mandela, Julius Malema, Jacob Zuma etc. Nelson Mandela was involved. As was Gandhi, Steve Biko etc. Do not belittle their efforts by referring to it as a power trip purely on the actions of the present lot.

      jimmy jazz - 2011-01-12 16:29

      Bratt , julius malema was NEVER involved in the struggle , he was 11 years old when Mandela was released.

  • issues - 2011-01-12 08:19

    NEVER apologise for doing your job Mr Odendaal and partner. Nobody is above the law and as soon as the law is broken the "apartheid" card gets's so sad since we'll never move's just so much easier to hold onto the past than to be accountable for the present.

      SaintBruce - 2011-01-12 12:06

      Spot on observation. Stuck in the 'apartheid past' groove. Go around the mountain one more time until the lesson is learned. Apartheid = to keep apart: a nice British introduced system taken from Colonial India to enrich the British Empire at the King's request so that this land could be raped and pillaged and its peoples enslaved. Wonderful - what's changed? Nothing - just new slavedrivers.... I support any cop like Odendaal who stands for Justice irrespective of race, creed, or religion. Do you?

      Ares - 2011-01-12 12:32

      @SaintBruce I stand with you on that one my friend. Well said.

  • Perfume - 2011-01-12 08:20


      swirlster - 2011-01-12 08:27

      ha ha ha. you funny

      Bobinator - 2011-01-12 09:46

      lmao. She is quite stompie isn't she?

      Perfume - 2011-01-12 12:07


      Bratt - 2011-01-12 13:50

      I'm sure Stompie and his relative agree.

      misterjakes - 2011-01-12 14:16

      Yes, Bratt. And all the other people (FAR outweighing the amount who died under the National Party) who have been murdered in our paradise, the Rainbow Nation. Please note that I am not necessarily saying that the NP was good and should come back, which was going to be your reposte, but that the ANC and their supporters are hippocrates.

      misterjakes - 2011-01-12 14:17

      hypocrites, my mistake.

  • quickpick - 2011-01-12 08:20

    and I bet nothing will come of this ............ Van Niks Kom Niks

      Tom - 2011-01-12 09:06

      Already they have been moved to another department, so something did happen. Just a pity it went the wrong way.

      Picasso - 2011-01-12 09:55

      No quickpick, a lot will come from this, the officers will probably be fired for doing their jobs.

  • timfat - 2011-01-12 08:20

    Banana Republic, come on Lt Gen back your boys!

  • Logs01 - 2011-01-12 08:20

    She must be quite "p%$$#D off cause she cant't 'sort out' the officer like she and her bodyguards did Stompie

  • Ralph - 2011-01-12 08:20

    This is the future of SA !!!!

      U1 - 2011-01-12 09:20


  • Homer - 2011-01-12 08:21

    Another fine example of politicians believing that the rules of the road dont apply to them and turning everything into a racial incident

      Janaman - 2011-01-12 08:45

      i must say i'm proud of the cops, and i fully support his decision not to back down just because this bi7ch has a 24/7 pms issue! in fact i wish they fcuked the body guards up for even trying to get 'cute'!

  • Pappa Smurf - 2011-01-12 08:21

    One day she will get what she deserves. It won't be while she's alive though.

  • Perfume - 2011-01-12 08:21

    Because they not in the era of APARTHEID anymore their vehicles cannot be searched.....I cannot believe Mr Mandela was married to this woman!!!!!!

      doodlenuts - 2011-01-12 09:05

      Makes one think of the Chris Rock dvd where he says that Mr. Mandela was in jail for 27 years got out lived with Winnie for 6 months & divorced her....

      The Patriot - 2011-01-12 09:47

      He found out the bitch had shagged half the politburo in his absence.

      Cina - 2011-01-12 12:02

      Thats why he went to jail for 27 years is was to get away from her.

      Kenko - 2011-01-12 12:02

      Mandela & Mandela were cut from the same cloth. He isn't and never was a saint. He left her when he found out she cheated on him, plain and simple.

      Perfume - 2011-01-12 12:08

      @doodlenuts....I need to watch that dvd :-)

      Subzer0 - 2011-01-12 12:45

      Did he really expect her to stay celibate for 27years? Ja ne.. she is something else indeed.

      lenand40 - 2011-01-12 13:59

      Would you stop if you were stopped by people wearing police uniform? Please be honest!!! There was no roadblock, and police in South Africa do not carry equipment to measure motorist speeds. If it was me, I would have gone to the nearest police station if I was familiar with the area, otherwise will not stop for any unmarked car. Glad to see so many of our fellow South Africans would immediately stop where flagged down by anyone in uniform.

  • thato - 2011-01-12 08:22

    If someone is breaking the law they should get pulled over. I really do not think the cops should apologise. What should they apologise for, exactly? Winnie and her entourage must calm themselves down. In actual fact they deserve a speeding fine!

      lenand40 - 2011-01-12 14:01

      How would the police determine that the car was being driven at 150km/h? Did they have SABS approved devices which was able to record the speed? Otherwise, what was the probable cause, as there was no roadblock and the police were in an unmarked car. Even if their car was marked, can they prove that Winnie was doing 150km/h?

      modefan - 2011-01-12 14:42

      @Ienand40...everyone keeps saying 'how did they know the car drove 150km/h'...obviously they had to drive more than 150km/h just to catch up with them

      PikeLee - 2011-01-12 15:47

      Who cares, nothing give you the right to treat cops that way. And they don't need a reason either jackass!

  • maseratifitt - 2011-01-12 08:22

    I always had a high regard for Petros. Now I think nothing of him. He should have stood by his boys and prosecuted the driver of the Audi. Extra charges of crimen injuria should have been laid.

      lldoidge - 2011-01-12 08:47

      Not that twally. It's the same Petros that had Helen Zilla arested for marching with the community, legally! Another ANC deployee!!!! I hope the poilice all band together and tell their boss there will be no apology!

      Boerseun - 2011-01-12 08:47

      How you could ever expect anything good from an ANC deployed cadre is simply beyond me. Anyway, I hope you have learnt your lesson.

      Gazza Boy - 2011-01-12 09:00

      One thing that I will give this lot is that they stick together like flies on a drol.

      nita - 2011-01-12 09:05

      exactly, how do you give your men a job to do and when they do it you punish them? haha what a joke our police and justice systems are1

  • barrow.harvey - 2011-01-12 08:22

    "...they are accompayning Ms Madikizela-Mandela and are very late"!!! What a load of $%#*!!! So if I am running late for an appointment (which is probably my fault seeing as I manage my own time like most people) I can justify speeding and reckless driving!!! Just because she's famous she thinks she can get away with it! I agree with Looney Tune!

  • Shelley Pembroke - 2011-01-12 08:23

    Am i the only one who doesn't understand the grounds on which this charge was laid? What exactly did the cops do that was outside their job description?

      Bheki - 2011-01-12 08:49

      they stopped Winnie. I think the police were trained during the old order hence they did not know that they are not suppose to stop cars driven by politicians.

      watalife - 2011-01-12 09:24

      @ Bheki no boet if they were trained in the old order they would have shot them like dogs. I have seen many Audi/BMW with tinted windows race around so must we just assume they are politicians or was the car marked Winnie Mandela Inside Please Move And Dont Stop Me

      The Patriot - 2011-01-12 09:52

      To answer your question, they did their job, and on being threatened by the body guard, the cop fetched his tazer. In essence, there can be no charge other then trumped up charges being endorsed by a poor leadership. No wonder there is no crime prevention. The rot sits at the top.

      Picasso - 2011-01-12 09:58

      That is a good idea, I must buy myself a BMW with tinted windows, then everyone will be too afraid to pull me over!

      lenand40 - 2011-01-12 14:05

      It is part of the cop's job description to check for speeding vehicle? I thought this was JMPD's area of expertise!!! Also, I thought police needed probable cause to stop a car, to prevent police targetting individuals without cause. If the cop was Seargent Madikizela and the occupant was Mrs Odendaal, I suspect the views of the vast majority here would turn around. A white woman refused to be arrested on the very same M1 last year and guess what, she received lots of sympathy, with some accusing the police of over being zealous. Of course, the police then were black. The country is in trouble, not only from the ANC, but from the knee-jerk often racist reactions before people get all the facts.

      modefan - 2011-01-12 14:45

      @Ienand40...and thats the only story you know...well my white friend whom I work with got locked up a whole weekend by a black cop, we only found out when he did not pitch up for work, and he didn't make a fuss about it

      Spyker - 2011-01-12 17:56

      Shelley, Yes, you are the only one who doesn't understand the grounds on which this charge got "laid"... The article clearly stipulated it - Two male policemen "who pulled over her car on the M1 highway..."

      Anne - 2011-01-12 20:21

      One has to wonder what would have happened if the policemen were black.

  • Colourblind - 2011-01-12 08:23

    It's a real pity it was a white officer that pulled them over, because now it will suddenly become a race issue. Where is Minister Sbu Ndebele and General Cele and Pres Zuma when we need them to show some leadership and walk the walk? Shocking.

      stephanjvv - 2011-01-12 09:14

      It will not "suddenly become a race issue". It was made a racial issue by themselves when they got pulled over. You should have read more carefully.

      Other Justin - 2011-01-12 10:19

      If they were pulled over by a black policeman, there probably would not be a story here. It is exactly because the cop was white that they started their rubbish. 'HOW CAN A WHIETE PICE OF SH1T PULL ME, THE QUEEN OF THE WORLD OVER!!!!!'. We should bring back apartheid so they can actually justify their idiotic comments!!

  • Michelle - 2011-01-12 08:23

    Another ANC official with illusions of grandeur and sadly, she will not be challenged for her behaviour. - 2011-01-12 12:15

      HER BODYGUARDS might be paid with our tax money.

  • swirlster - 2011-01-12 08:23

    Filthy, murdering, sifilis infected animal she is....

      Alpahbrutus - 2011-01-12 09:08

      Well said! The Nat secret police should have dropped her down a mine shaft when they had the chance.

      Marius - 2011-01-12 13:55

      One can't compare that thing to an animal. She is just another fat criminal ANC barbarian with delusions of grandeur.

  • Joy - 2011-01-12 08:23

    With the white powder in her face she must have looked like a bloody zombie! Don't blame them for not recognizing her. She is not above the law and needs to abide by the rules of the road just like the rest of us. Arrest her fat ass and give her a hefty fine. Charge her with foul language and a God-complex

      maseratifitt - 2011-01-12 09:36

      Joy : I think we must let Julius know about this. To me it looks like white tendencies.

      robertgunning - 2011-01-12 09:47

      Judging by the amount of aggression she had, the white powder was most likely cocaine. Winnie the sh1t was probably late because she spent too much time with her dealer and was keen to get to her next appointment (most likely a raping or an abduction)

      Picasso - 2011-01-12 09:59

      Maybe the white powder was cocaine she was snorting?

      ebdg3000 - 2011-01-12 11:10

      Maybe it was Michael Jackson in drag - long live Jacko!

  • shroompopsicle - 2011-01-12 08:23

    All people are created equal - obviously some more equal than others.

      chris.debeer1 - 2011-01-12 08:43

      Now you getting with the program AT LAST!!! And she is more Equal than you!! Get IT

      Bratt - 2011-01-12 09:30

      as you were more equal than her a few years ago. Get IT?

      iJuba - 2011-01-12 10:26

      @ Bratt So you actually condone this behaviour?? All you can do is make references to the past, you prick, without offering anything of any worth. How do you move forward every morning if you keep on looking over your shoulder at yesterday?

      misterjakes - 2011-01-12 14:25

      Bratt, so the whites admitted they were wrong, massive guilt trip, et al. post '94 let's accept everything they throw at us because we were wrong. Now that the blacks and ANC have been giving us years and years of lectures on morality and on how wrong we were, why are they acting in the very manner that they argue against? The South African black culture - be it whichever tribe - has a corrupt view of life and death and an even more malfunctioning view on what a 'democracy' is. Accountability. Transparency. Equality before the law, no matter who the individual is. The blacks all know their rights but not their responsibilities and therefore have grown impatient with democracy. The culture does not sustain progress. Culture, I said, not race, because skin colour does not point to ability. Culture, however, is a fantastic indicator.

      misterjakes - 2011-01-12 14:30

      ANC leaders, only leading by example. Now are they symptomatic of the general black population (thus explaining their actions) or are their actions demonstrating the acceptable way to conduct oneself to the black population? How strange that an Afrikaner can reason and type like this. Ons tyd kom.Die keer nie met julle nie.

      misterjakes - 2011-01-12 14:36

      We don't want to live with, employ, work together towards 'building', whatever, anything with this South African black culture anymore. Read I say South African black culture. We want separate development. In our own province/county/country/state. We have compromised and sacrificed enough of our consciences and beliefs, language and culture (to creolisation from the SABC 7de laan-nonsense and Anglicising). Our blood has flowed for 350 years. We are not to be lambs to the slaughter because of a falsely placed guilt anymore. Ons tyd kom.

  • Sabsi - 2011-01-12 08:24

    That's live - even a Madame Madikizela-Mandela has to follow the rules!!! And how rude is the swearing?! "Who the fuck do you think you are," she repeatedly yelled at him and his colleagues, "A man jumped out and yelled: 'Who the hell do you think you are to want to search this vehicle, we are not in the era of apartheid any more'," Odendaal said. ...what on earth has speeding got to do with Apartheid?! I honestly feel sorry for the policemen!

  • WiseOwl2 - 2011-01-12 08:24

    Will that chip ever come off the shoulder ????

      Logs01 - 2011-01-12 08:40

      "Log" on the shoulder. Sorry to correct you

      U1 - 2011-01-12 09:25

      Sorry to correct, a whole frikkin forrest, not just a chip or a ..... stompie... Stupid cow. (Sorry, not intended to harm or degrade any useful farm animals.)

      pointblankza - 2011-01-12 10:25

      If we remove what is on her shoulder global warming with increase dramatically.

  • erwintwr - 2011-01-12 08:24

    What the hell??? They were doing their job, and pulled them over. If Winnie didn't have the neccesary clearance to drive at high speed (ie emergency lights at least), then i don't think she had any rights to go against the law I vote for them to not apologize, and keep doing their work. Even better - Prosecute winnie for all the laws she broke (speeding, and resisting arrest) Lets not corrupt the system more!! Nobody is above the law. (and yes - i have been caught speeding a few times, and i did pay the fines where needed, and also attended court hearings in one extreme case)

      lenand40 - 2011-01-12 14:20

  • chris.debeer1 - 2011-01-12 08:24

    If I may give my 5 cent worth. Go and apologise to MISSIES WINNIE and BAAS bodygaurd. Its just words in your heart and in mine we know what she is!! Get with it do u realy think when in apartheid years they called you BAAS they ment it in the way you thought Wrong.

      Stevie - 2011-01-12 08:37

      No. I stick to my principles, as any decent man should. You cannot strengthen the weak by weakening the strong.

      Christo - 2011-01-12 08:40

      "Sticks and stones might brake my bones..." Well, I disagree. She and her body guards aren't above the law. They should spend some time in jail for not respecting the police officers, regardless of colour. When will colour not play a roll?? It is only the ANC that seem to hammer on colour everytime something doesn't go the way it should.

  • Really?? - 2011-01-12 08:24

    WTF? what upsets me most is that nothing will be done about this, she is above the law, government is above the law...

  • John Clark - 2011-01-12 08:25

    I wonder what the "white powder all over her face" was...? Maybe something messed when the vehicle came to a sudden stop? Either that or if Winnie is trying to lighten her complexion, it must be the ultimate symbol of the failure of BEE.

      Boerseun - 2011-01-12 08:46

      "White powder", perhaps this says a lot about her. Do you see any whites with black powder?

      Wonderboy - 2011-01-12 09:02

      I wonder if she was eating a yogurt? They are always eating, something left over from Polokwane maybe.

      U1 - 2011-01-12 09:26

      Maybe snorting some white powder, hence the protest of being stopped......

      watalife - 2011-01-12 09:29

      @ Boerseun you have made my day, Fuck its funny yet so true. She still thinks Michael Jackson was cool trying to be white.

      maseratifitt - 2011-01-12 09:42

      She was on her way to the next township to spook the people into voting for the ANC at the next election. The spook of Apartheid. Or maybe she doesn't want Stompie to recognize her.

      Gazza Boy - 2011-01-12 09:54

      Boerseun you hit the nail on the head. I like your thinking.

      SaintBruce - 2011-01-12 12:15

      @ Maseratifitt - Brilliant detective work! "Going to spook the township into voting ANC.." Maybe she is training as a Sangoma - to put the hex on the voters who don't vote ANC! Maybe this is the secret weapon of the ANC these days??? Made me laugh - thanks.

      Perfume - 2011-01-12 12:20

      ROFLMAO!!!!! What is it with the "white" powder I need to Google and check this powder everyone is commenting on...she must be using a foundation that is not suited for her.

      Mucaine - 2011-01-12 13:55

      Perhaps Winnie got it all wrong… those gorilla nostrils sneezed the “white powder” instead of inhaling, hence the white face and the wobbly driving..

  • charles.nsi - 2011-01-12 08:25

    My view... If she can get away with kidnapping and murdering children, she can get away with a bit of reckless driving and endangerment. She is so far above the law that when she farts, the law below doesn't even feel a breeze.

  • evilsheepclone47 - 2011-01-12 08:25

    Going to the F#cking dogs this place is! As a South African citizen I am quite insulted that these are people who have such large influences in our country.

  • BigAl - 2011-01-12 08:26

    Swearing at a police officer doing his duty is an insult and should be dealt with. The driver should be charged for speeding and dangerous driving. Winnie Madikizela-Mandela should not have got involved and should never allow her driver to break the law. Then apartheid comes into it, Winnie Madikizela-Mandela you should be ashamed of yourself including your body guide and driver. No wonder we live in a lawless society with the worst crime on the planet. Just look at the crimes of high ranking people here in South Africa, they are all one big joke all over the world.

  • Mario - 2011-01-12 08:26

    As South Africans we have to remember that Politicians, Their Families and Friends, and Friends of Friends are all above the law. That's the way it goes. The cops does his job only to apologise. Crazy.

  • Ederik - 2011-01-12 08:26

    So in future when I am late for something I may drive my vehicle at 150 pushing other people of the road? Just following big mama's example?

  • MOTEK-XX - 2011-01-12 08:27

    Some are more equal in the eyes of the law than others. This is disgusting behaviour.

      SaintBruce - 2011-01-12 12:17

      Sounds like George Orwell was right in his books 1984 and Animal Farm. We seem to be living in the "Big Brother" world these days.

  • briansmith702 - 2011-01-12 08:27

    And they expect us to respect the ANC and their bullshit. Just another example of a senior clown pulling rank. Absolutely sick. She should be jailed just as she should have been years ago with Stompie and then her fraud case. We are doomed with the corrupt fools running the country.

  • mudrat - 2011-01-12 08:27

    Someone should remind the old hag she is not Nelson.

      Bratt - 2011-01-12 09:33

      I think she already knows. Which is why she behaves in a manner he never would.

      Owen - 2011-01-12 09:40

      Nelson would not behave like that.

  • RickRoss - 2011-01-12 08:27

    OMG!! who the hell does she think she is??? Even Mandela wouldnt pull such a stunt.

      Bratt - 2011-01-12 09:34

      Mandela wouldn't have to. He is never late for anything. People wait patiently for him to arrive.

  • 10111 - 2011-01-12 08:27

    I say f**k her and don't apologise!!

      Shistirrer - 2011-01-12 09:34

      F**ck her? E-e-e-e-e-u-u-u-u-u-w! The mere thought...

      chris.debeer1 - 2011-01-12 09:35

      I would much rather apologise than F**k her!!!

      AJ - 2011-01-12 10:12

      Yeah, I'd have to with a 'sorry' there too (under protest of course)

      Lionel - 2011-01-12 11:49

      You would have to snort and overdose on the white powder to even entertain the thought and then kick the bucket before carring out this horrendous deed.

      Kiewiet52 - 2011-01-12 20:14

      Jig,I agree!!!