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Cops bunking target practice - report

2012-06-18 13:48

Johannesburg - Nearly 60% of Gauteng police officers did not meet their annual target practice obligations in 2011, according to a report on Monday.

Beeld newspaper reported that target practice attendance figures had dropped by nearly 40% over a three-year period.

According to the answer to a parliamentary question by the Democratic Alliance, 21 477 police officers attended target practice courses during 2009, compared to just 13 332 in 2011.

The number of hours that Gauteng police spent on the shooting range, dropped during the same period from 171 576 to 106 656.

According to DA spokesperson for social development Mike Waters, at least 18 761 officers (58.5% of the 32 093 in Gauteng) did not report for target practice at all in 2011.

This was regardless of the fact that Lieutenant General Nhlanhla Mkhwanazi, the then acting chief of police, explicitly stated that target practice once a year was an integral requirement for the issuing of firearm licences to police officers.

According to police spokesperson Colonel Noxolo Kweza, the Gauteng police decided that in 2012, it would focus on firearm competence, and that target practice would not be seen as a priority.

Waters said it was crucially important for police officials to attend target practice sessions to ensure that their competence remained at a high level.

Comments
  • joe.farmer.92775 - 2012-06-18 14:04

    "According to police spokesperson Colonel Noxolo Kweza, the Gauteng police decided that in 2012, it would focus on firearm competence, and that target practice would not be seen as a priority." Huh WTF, surely this would be part and parcle of being competent?

      E=MC2 - 2012-06-18 14:12

      lol! for sure... define firearm competence then! Maybe it just means not losing it.

      aarchaic - 2012-06-18 14:23

      In all honestly i cant think why they would NOT want to attend target practice... I mean going on work hours to a shooting range discharging amo you dont even pay for.. Why wont you? AND ITS FUN!

      gski700902 - 2012-06-18 14:57

      Going back to when I did my (then compulsory) Military Service in 1991, I'm trying to understand/comprehend how target practice can be separated from competence? Surely being able to aim and strike a target is part of competence (it was when I did my civilian firearm licence...)? Testing for competence only once a year? Anyone got any research on how this compares with Police forces in other countries, or Military forces here and elsewhere? Just curious... The question that also goes begging is what happens to all those who have not even complied with the mandatory yearly testing? Are they then still competent to carry and/or use a firearm? What happens if the firearm is discharged in the line of duty, the shooter hasn't tested in more than a year - does the person shot (irregardless of whether the shooter was justified in pulling the trigger or not) have leeway to pursue legal action (can just imagine how much more taxpayers money and court time would be wasted then...)

      Kala - 2012-06-18 14:59

      I would like to see the stats of those that have attended in terms of target scores. That might be just as frightening, unless you are a criminal.

      michael.i.wright - 2012-06-18 16:02

      You know it's gone pear shaped when they wont even go pop of ammo for free during work hours.

  • charlesdumbwin.dumbwin - 2012-06-18 14:07

    I respect that work that SAPS do, but there are a lot of corrupt, rotten applies within their ranks. When they do go for target practice, does the shooting range put up pictures of criminals or police?

      danny.levin.351 - 2012-06-18 14:56

      Charles, what is the difference? the days when "cops and robbers" referred to two separate groups are long over in this country.

      Alf - 2012-06-18 20:40

      Not much of a difference!

  • ashley.james.3701779 - 2012-06-18 14:11

    If only they included a full pack Nandos meal for lunch at the target practice, more vetgat police officers would have attended!

  • Juan - 2012-06-18 14:12

    No wonder 38 000 of them can't shoot. Fire their @sses

      fussed.anderson - 2012-06-18 14:43

      They cant shoot straight and there bosses are not straight shooters

      Kala - 2012-06-18 16:55

      And even if they did try fire them they would probably miss.

  • tom.vorster - 2012-06-18 14:15

    So much for being a "force", forces usually require descipline to be effective. When the officer issues the order "report to the shooting range on Tuesday", you go or face the implications - yup, pretty much explains why so many in the SAPS are so bloody useless.

  • Gary - 2012-06-18 14:20

    Can't shoot, too blady fat to run, useless Police stations, corrupt Procsecutors, corrupt Bosses / Chiefs...Eish :( SAPS and Justice system = Epic fail = ANC Fail

  • Martin - 2012-06-18 14:23

    there is no police force in sa, only a sap syndicate

  • Johan - 2012-06-18 14:26

    They do not attend because they know they will not pass

  • Nosiphom - 2012-06-18 14:40

    "General Nhlanhla Mkhwanazi, the then acting chief of police, explicitly stated that target practice once a year was an integral requirement for the issuing of firearm licences to police officers." Once a year ??? It should be once a week, and those who bunk should simple be fired!

      tgif.wtfaw - 2012-06-18 14:43

      Or Shot !

      regardt1 - 2012-06-18 15:00

      @tgif but not by fellow officers, they might miss.... HAHA

  • allcoveredinNinjas - 2012-06-18 14:53

    SAPS / Criminals , at this stage its hard to tell the difference .

      Tax - 2012-06-18 14:59

      Criminals can shoot.

  • Sifiso Chuck - 2012-06-18 15:05

    ja this new police they not fit 4 job, cant wait 4 next intake i wanna show them.

  • Ryno - 2012-06-18 15:39

    what a disgrace...but then again - if it is rotten from the top down, what else did you expect?

  • jimmy.kawa.1 - 2012-06-18 15:42

    this is nothing new. a few years ago, reports stated that the average police officer in this country, could not HIT a man-size stationary target placed 10 meters away, with any of the bullets shot from their service pistol. maybe all these policemen need to be demoted to metermaid status. oh, and the firearms control act involves only shooting a few rounds anyway. it doesn't teach you how to shoot properly. every police officer needs to be trained to shoot at the standards of the International Defensive Pistol Association. if we as law abiding citizens want to obtain a legal firearm with a legal license, we have to jump through so many hoops to get one. these police are pathetic. in march this year, while at work we had a provicial traffic official with us. seeing his nice new shiny glock 19 pistol, i asked him what he thought of it and how he found firing it. he just shrugged saying he didn't really know. this cop didn't even know what kind of ammunition he was carrying in his pistol. shooting practice -a few rounds every 6 months. with a cup of coffee in my one hand and a biscuit in the other i could have disarmed him. pathetic.

  • eyesears.handsfeet - 2012-06-18 16:30

    "Shortage of ammo stock coming into SA". While all the illegal ammo stock is in full swing in most of the squatter camps. How ironic, or is it?

  • Chris - 2012-06-18 21:01

    UNFORTUNATELY IT IS YET AGAIN A DA MEMBER THAT HAS TO REMIND AN ANC-APPOINTED OFFICIAL THAT A MERE STATEMENT DOES NOT AMOUNT TO ANYTHING ACTUALLY BEING DONE. GET OFF YOUR FAT USELESS (PROTECTED BY PRIVATE SECURITY COMPANY) ASSES AND EARN OUR RESPECT!!

      Sagin - 2012-06-18 23:32

      dont hold your breath chris. in the long term the anc will be relegated to the history books as an embarrasment and a failure. people all around the world will make jokes about being as useless as the anc. respect them? never! laugh at their incompetence? all the time.

  • Peter - 2012-06-19 06:26

    The safest place to be when a " cop " starts shooting is directly in front of him. But remember to stand dead still. If you move you have a small chance of getting hit by a stray bullet.he

  • grant.taylor.142 - 2012-06-19 07:58

    But I bet they attended the class for corruption and incompetence...

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