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Cops prepare for ANCYL gathering

2011-08-29 09:04

Johannesburg – Roads around Luthuli House in Johannesburg were closed on Monday morning in anticipation of ANC Youth League members gathering ahead of Tuesday's disciplinary hearing against their top leaders.

"Police are on duty outside Luthuli House," said Johannesburg metro police spokesperson Wayne Minnaar.

The disciplinary hearing against ANCYL president Julius Malema and his colleagues was scheduled to take place on Tuesday, but members were expected to start arriving at the ruling party's headquarters in Sauer street on Monday.

Vigil

Minnaar said Sauer street was closed on Monday morning between President and Pritchard streets, and President street was also closed where it crossed Sauer street.

By 08:00, no supporters had arrived yet.

Minnaar said depending on the situation, the police may re-open the streets later in the morning.

ANCYL spokesperson Magdalene Moonsamy said she could not say when and how many supporters were expected.

"It is at the discretion of the membership. If they want to arrive today [Monday], they are at liberty to do so. There are many that will be there during the night for a night vigil. They are showing support for the leadership."

Malema faces charges alongside league's spokesperson, Floyd Shivambu, league deputy president Ronald Lamola, secretary general Sindiso Magaqa, his deputy, Kenetswe Mosenogi and treasurer general Pule Mabe.

The charges include bringing the ANC into disrepute and sowing divisions in ANC ranks.

Malema recently said the ANCYL would send a team to Botswana to consolidate local opposition parties and help bring about regime change, as it believed the government there was "in full co-operation with imperialists" and was undermining the "African agenda".

Apology 'for the media'

The youth league was publicly rebuked by the ANC for this and then apologised, but ANCYL national executive member Lerato Mofokeng at the weekend said the league still called for a freer and more democratic society in Botswana.

She indicated that the ANC youth movement's apology in this regard was more for the "media" and that the movement stood by its statement.

Initially only Malema and Shivambu were charged, but the four other leaders' names were added to the charge sheet last week.

The league was reportedly hoping to argue in Malema's defence that he was communicating a resolution of the ANCYL national executive committee and therefore the entire body should be charged, not just the president.

Last year, Malema pleaded guilty in an ANC disciplinary hearing after he publicly criticised President Jacob Zuma.

The national disciplinary committee at the time said that should Malema be found guilty of provoking serious divisions or a break-down of unity in the organisation within the next two years, his membership of the ANC would be suspended.

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Comments
  • Lab-Rat - 2011-08-29 09:11

    Remember guys, leave the rubber bullets at home this time.

      sganja - 2011-08-29 09:16

      Hey Lab I agree

      Green Oaks - 2011-08-29 09:24

      A case of the tail wagging the dog here. BUT they only have themselves to blame, that is the ANC.

      farmworker - 2011-08-29 09:26

      I also agree they must because is gonna be very peaceful

      Jake - 2011-08-29 09:30

      USE LEAD INSTEAD!!!!

      shaun.cousins1 - 2011-08-29 09:32

      got the snipers on the roof

      Ulrich - 2011-08-29 09:33

      KFC is going to make big bucks today!

      Greg - 2011-08-29 09:43

      Agreed - rather use ball ammunition - but only if the "demonstration" turns violent...and rid this country of these dangerous idiots.

      willieman - 2011-08-29 09:49

      Hitler mobilised ignorant Germans to attack innocent people,remember Rwanda(mordern history),the ignorant were mobilised as well.This is exactly what this guys are doing.The results of hearsay politics are very much devastating.

      Audacious12 - 2011-08-29 09:59

      I've just seen post on the Libyan thread about how appalled you hypocrites were to discover the charred remains of civilians, yet here you openly call for the killing of supporters?

      UnproudSA - 2011-08-29 10:14

      Lab, in agreement with you. Another thing, if they want to burn down Luthuli House, leave them

      Audacious12 - 2011-08-29 10:32

      So this is exactly how it started in Egypt, Tunisia, Lybia, etc. All those youth's were at the SA Youth conference. Now all we need is NATO to bomb the crap out of South Africa and hey presto, we'll have a new, new democracy. Forwards, or backwards? You decide.

      DW - 2011-08-29 10:37

      All I can say is thank goodness for all of these goings on in ANC right now. Otherwise we would be the ones sitting with Gadaffi instead of Zimbabwe (if the reports are true)

      onthefence - 2011-08-29 11:49

      Sganja - you ignorant f_ck....Lab-Rat meant that they should bring real bullets you tosser, and you agreed - You win the Darwin award (google it you chop - you are a candidate)

      biskit - 2011-08-29 11:50

      & the Taxpayer must fork out again

      JR - 2011-08-29 12:37

      yes, leave the rubber bullets at home, use live ones

      PinkAndProud - 2011-08-29 12:46

      Pass the popcorn and let the games begin! These junior cockroaches belong underneath someone's shoe.

      The Observer - 2011-08-29 14:15

      I'm willing to bet that something will burn, be stoned or beaten. Lab-Rat, sganja and farmworker. I also agree, live rounds are called for here.

  • sganja - 2011-08-29 09:11

    Viva Ancyl Viva! May God help these future leaders. To the police No rubber bullets please.

      Tolerant - 2011-08-29 09:18

      Did someone forgot to tell them the hearings are only tomorrow and Wednesday? They should rather be at work or look for a job than to be in the street.

      sganja - 2011-08-29 09:20

      Tolerant We are going to the night vigil, so they can arrive anytime....

      Schalk - 2011-08-29 09:41

      Strange how the young "revolutionaries" now march on the "revolutionary house". SA has so many revolutions going on that I get confused sometimes... Anyway, viva comrades! Let's march on Luthuli (pronounced LootFreely) House! This imperialist ANC with all its imperialist bling and its counter-revolutionary tendencies that are undermining the African agenda must be removed!

      Lab-Rat - 2011-08-29 09:49

      Yeah agreed. God help 'em.

      Yomar Sapus - 2011-08-29 09:58

      sinja, God help you in the future. Please use lead. The ancyl and its followers are not welcome or needed in SA.

      sganja - 2011-08-29 10:11

      Why Mr Yomar Sapus?

      Free Man - 2011-08-29 10:14

      It is with absolute amazement that I read comments like these. It says much about the level of your intelligence, the lack of insight into a higher moral and ethical community. Support for these kinds of individuals just show what your character is really saying. Do you think real people will take you seriously? Tell me, what integrity and authenticity does Malema has as a leader? I am not a prophet, but it seems you will have your leader leading the YL from a prison one of these days. And I bet you, you are standing on the moral high ground of democracy, yet you will fight with sticks and stones to keep your leader in power whilst the right thing to do is to elect leaders without paying R100K per vote. I hereby make an appointment with you! Once your leader has been found guilty and sentenced, come and tell the world that you still support criminals and that you and your buddies prefer a country ruled by criminals rather than people with good qualifications and a clean record like, Mbeki (both) or Trevor Manual to name just three. Madiba is crying, he is absolute devastated by the lack of good judgment of the youth of today. You take the seven biggest religions of the world and they all have the following values in common. Honesty, respect, integrity, hope, fairness, happiness, goodwill and hard work to name just a few. How many of these are also values of the ANCYL?

      amabok - 2011-08-29 10:31

      Use live ammunition today boys - and remember aim high! And bonus pay to the one who gets Malema.

      sganja - 2011-08-29 10:38

      Dear Free Man Let me start by saying I'm unashamed to support the leadership of YL, to show the support I don't need people to take me serious. I stand by my views and principles of this country that says ' Innocent till proven guilty' so is very wrong for you to come up with that false 'prophet' saying Malema will lead in jail. I don't support corruption either but I just don't like to jump to conclusions and say someone is a criminal. I Accept appointment. HOPE, fairness, happiness defines ANCYL.

      gcr - 2011-08-29 10:49

      So this uncouth brat pack are going to screw up the economy with their gatherings what a bunch of tossers they are - should rather go back to school and get an education, stop being lazy layabouts you bring no value to this country whatsoever

      warickw - 2011-08-29 11:09

      @Sganja I agree that people are innocent until proven otherwise, however even a blind man can tell when the sun is shinning! To believe Julius to be innocent is ignorance bordering on extreme stupidity!

      onthefence - 2011-08-29 11:31

      @sganja - I agree that Malema is very good at getting the ignorant to blindly follow him....as you have just proven

      sganja - 2011-08-29 11:47

      @warickw believe what you think is good for you and I will believe what I think is good for me, i remain fair to this corruption issue and I'm gonna wait for the outcomes by doing so I'm not stupid by the way. @onthefence I'm not blind, just speaking the truth

      Free Man - 2011-08-29 12:17

      sganja I thought that you would reply with such a answer. My observation of intelligence and insight are correct. From the eight values, you reply with three (hope, fairness and happiness). What matters most is integrity. For now, the ANCYL” hopes” for an innocent Malema, hopes for a "fair" trail and "happiness" is when tenders are awarded.

      Matt :-) - 2011-08-29 12:17

      Why would God want to help an organisation that wants communism - a system that in its foundations seeks to exclude God - let alone an organisation that supports abortion? Nope, leave God out of this...

      sganja - 2011-08-29 12:29

      Dear Matt :-) God love's everyone in this world, whether you have sin or not God Loves you. I don't think YL supports communism as a whole, I don't take nationalisation as part of communism but rather as the way to fight poverty. I'm also against abortion but it seem's that people who take decisions (Parliamanet) supports it including oppositions parties. In this case I don't think is YL issue.

      sganja - 2011-08-29 12:36

      Free Man Ancyl hopes that Malema be free so that he can continue to call for economic change (rule number one never loose hope) Ancyl want a fair trial because he was not speaking as an indivual but as the president of YL (therefore is unfair to isolate him). Happiness happen when all wishes of the ORGANISATION are met, not all leaders of YL are involved in tenders.

      Matt :-) - 2011-08-29 12:45

      @ sganja - you should see how nationalisation fared in USSR. It led to the masses becoming poor, plus by all earning the same wage, farm workers were demotivated and didn't work, so millions starved of hunger... also, nationalisation is a disaster for freedom. How can one have freedom if the State owns everything, thus there is nowhere free to practice freedom? And yes, God loves everybody, but why would God help someone to do bad things? JZ, JM and other ANC MPs have given political speeches at churches, which is a clear abuse of those congregations. JZ has affairs in the open and doesn't even show guilt; JM has stolen so much and defends it; were they real followers of God, they would not behave like that, let alone condone or justify their actions as they do. The ANC (and the DA too) have various policies in their manifesto - ie. they chose to adopt those policies - that God would loathe. So to say that God will be with those who clearly don't care what God would like or dislike... nope, sorry, can't agree with that!

      Eddie V - 2011-08-29 12:50

      Sganja-smoker. You're as blind and dumb as they come. You say you do not support corruption, but here you are supporting the most corrupt bunch of morons of them all. What exactly do you think would happen if your dear Juju-beans Malema and the devil in his ear F-f-f-f-f-lloyd get their will and the country nationlizes mines and land?? You will bleed on your knees infront of your corrupt masters begging for scraps while they literaly roll their fat asses down the street. Get a clue sunshine. You mean nothing to them. You're just a tool....in more ways than one.

      sganja - 2011-08-29 13:32

      @Matt :-) I agree there are countries where nationalisation didn't work but there are other countries that it worked super....so let's find more information the 'good and the bad' about this idea. State will not own everything except the mines, land will go to people. " JZ, JM and other ANC MPs have given political speeches at churches, which is a clear abuse of those congregations" I don't agree with the statement we can't judge people based on their political life, they were there as guest, so I don't think members can be abused by that. When it comes to Zuma affair yes God does not like it but when people apologised God do forgive them, remember we all make sin in this world. In the case of JM 'stealing' I'm still not convinced, let the law play its role then I will comment.

      Matt :-) - 2011-08-29 13:51

      @ sganja - no, they ARE abusing the trust of people by preaching their political issues at churches. JZ - how could he be a Christian with 5 wives and many mistresses? When the last lovechild came, did he say in the media that he made a mistake by cheating, apologise and ask forgiveness? Was he justified in saying Jesus is an ANC supporter when Jesus in His infinite wisdom would never support such a hateful, corrupt and godless party? And as for JM, do you think a real Christian would incite racial hatred and sing "shoot the Boer"? Or build a lavish mansion while those who love him go without food and live in squalor? And where does nationalisation work - Venezuela perhaps? Are those people all free and rich? Go there, say something about Chavez and see what happens to you. Nationalisation will NOT stop at mines; they want farmland too. So now that's your chief export/income and your source of food in the hands of the State. Do you honestly trust the ANC to see that everyone benefits from the wealth and makes sure everyone gets fed regardless of their political/racial backgrounds? And how well are SA's current parastatals doing? If ANC can't even sort out crises with their "milkers" Eskom and Telkom, how can you trust them with our food supply?!

      The Observer - 2011-08-29 14:15

      viva no rubber bullets, viva live rounds

  • Nunya - 2011-08-29 09:14

    Bring the rubber bullets...plenty of them. The MKVA's will sort them out though...

      sganja - 2011-08-29 09:17

      UMkhonto Wesizwe supports AncYl...

      Nunya - 2011-08-29 09:33

      That's not what I read....they support the ANC...not these ANCYL dummies...

      sganja - 2011-08-29 09:37

      Is only that stupid called Kebbie who does not support YL not MKVA.

      MuntuzaB - 2011-08-29 10:21

      Maphatsoe is the leader of the MKVA sganja. He speaks on behalf of the vets.

      cerveza - 2011-08-29 10:22

      @sganja - and it is only the few unconstitutional leaders and their brainwashed supporters that supports racism, sexism, violence and undemocratic behaviour, the rest of the youth league are against it. Too bad they don't go to the streets and ask for the ANCYL leaders to act according to it's constitution and stop with their imperialist, right-wing and oppressive comments and behaviour. The silence of many are often mistaken as the voice of few

      sganja - 2011-08-29 10:47

      MuntuzaB Ok cerveza You Lying all the provinces supports the leadership. If they were not happy I don't they were gonna come in support of their leaders.

      Themba Thwala - 2011-08-29 10:53

      sganja, if I was unemployed (like most ANCYL members), I would also happily go on a joyride and toyi-toyi and participate in a night vigil in return for not feeling useless, lonely and having minute by minute hunger pangs to worry about for the rest of that time that I'll be showing support to Juju. It is amazing how that bloated whale has suddenly found God now that Zuma has put its neck on the chopping block

      sganja - 2011-08-29 11:06

      Dear Themba Thwala There is a 'jealous ' in Your statement; Members are not going to Toi toi because they are unemployed, they gonna show support to elected leaders and defend YL. Malema has several times went to churches but you didn't talk, now because of this issue you assume that he went to church because of it, this show's how ignorant you are.

      cerveza - 2011-08-29 11:25

      @sganja - do you support the leadership or the ANCYL? They are 2 seperate things. The ANCYL was there long before the current leaders and will still be there when they are gone. Now the question you need to ask yourself is where your loyalties lie, with the YL and it constitution or with a leader and his cronies that have only been there for a few years and made a mockery of the YL and it's values while being in control. Malema is in contravention with the ANCYL's constitution with most of his opinions and since no attempt has been made to update the constitution to fit the sexist racist and disrespected view of Malema and friends and can only assume it is their private opinion and not that of the ANCYL which shows it has been hijacked and are not a democratic structure as it used to be. So make your choice, you can not support both as the league's values and the leadership's values are too far apart and belong on separate sides of political and social divide

      sganja - 2011-08-29 11:36

      cerveza I support Ancyl (and their leaders), when a person is chosen to lead we must give him/her all the supports he/she needs even if I have different view, when majority speaks we can't reverse that. I don't think you can support organisation without supporting leaders because those leaders are implementing organisation agendas.

      Themba Thwala - 2011-08-29 11:37

      sganja, you are wrong. Now why would I be jealous of him? I can never be jealous of that bloated whale that's currently facing all sorts of criminal investigations and might even exchange his italian suits for orange overalls and his saxomworld mansion for a jail, not to mention the prospect of being another prisoner's gal when he lands in jail.

      onthefence - 2011-08-29 11:42

      @sganja - you are not helping yourself - silence would be of great service to you now

      cerveza - 2011-08-29 12:08

      @sganja - and if the leaders do not implement the agendas of the organisation but rather their own agendas, do you still support them or do support the organisation? And what about if the leader breaks rules or goes against the constitution of the league, does that not show the leader is not there for the organasation but there for itself? If the leadership of the ANCYL was worth anything many of the leaders would have had their memberships terminated for serious offenses committed on regular bases, but the ANCYL have cleary fallen into a lawless mafia style organasation with no integraty and a membership base that is either immoral or too spineless to stand up for what is right

      daaivark - 2011-08-29 12:42

      Sganja: Blind following of anything is just stupid. Are you saying that even if you were standing in a hailstorm, if your leaders say it is fine weather you would head for the beach? Leaders are fallible. Even if they do a quick PR visit to the local church, they are NOT Gods. Alas, too many of your league's supporters embrace the same type of idiotic herd mentality that you display here, and this can only lead to problems.

      sganja - 2011-08-29 12:54

      daaivark as a matured person I will prefer you to debate with people without calling them names or whatever. Don't compare general examples with political examples, in politics with deal with 'majority rules'. Members are loyal to their leaders they are not blind.. I will also support because if you can read previous statement you can clearly understand that this decision was suppose to be solved political.

      cerveza - 2011-08-29 13:03

      @sganja - if you are a mature person then why do you support leaders that break the rules of the organasation and do not act according to it constitution? It either means you are what daaivark says you are, or you do not support the ANCYL's constitution but rather a man that hijacked the organasation. So which one are you, a YL sellout or a idiotic sheep? You can have your cake and eat it too. Grow a spine, figure out where your loyalties really lie and then make your choice

      sganja - 2011-08-29 13:38

      cerveza The matured statement was directed to Daaivark, I support organisation not individuals but I have a problem when you isolate those people from the orginasation. If YL members did have a problem with JM leadership, they were going to replace him, but he is back and having huge support. I repeat I'm loyal to the organisation

      daaivark - 2011-08-29 13:46

      Sganja, Please point out where I call you names. I have reread my remark and do no such thing. Mature debate goes about engaging the issue. If you rfere to my use of the term "herd mentality".... it is a commonly used term to describe a mode of behaviour, and to deem that idiotic is NOT calling you names. Try to think this through, please.

      daaivark - 2011-08-29 13:49

      Sganja. Perhaps I should remind you that you refer to "Kebbie" as "that stupid". In my book that is name-calling. So where is this maturity you claim?

      sganja - 2011-08-29 14:09

      Daaivark thank you for explaining "herd mentality"

      Al - 2011-08-29 19:20

      @sganja, let's face it Malema is really very dumb. People who support him are dumberer...

  • matubeng - 2011-08-29 09:17

    You're right 'cause Malema's body guards carry the real thing, what's currently being used in Lybia.

  • IC1 - 2011-08-29 09:18

    This is a watershed case for the ANC, now we'll see where the powerbase resides, interesting indeed

      Tom - 2011-08-29 10:20

      I agree, its crunch time. The anc has put its self in a position where they have to make a tough decision. If they don’t act now and show decisive leadership by keeping to what they said at the last ancyl hearing we are all in deep yogurt. Di-lemma is gunning for the driver’s seat at any cost, old JZ is trying to hold on to office. This show down should make for good entertainment,just a pity the stakes are so high.

      JR - 2011-08-29 12:40

      Time to show these over aged youth that cannot grow up that threatening the president is treason. Zuma, I dont support you but get off your butt and show them who is boss else you will be a puppet all your life.

  • Grey B - 2011-08-29 09:19

    Toi-Toi has become part of their culture. Part of their hobbies. I'm sure half of them dont even know why they are there!Just a good time, doing what they like!!!

      Green Oaks - 2011-08-29 09:27

      A useless bunch of individuals !!!

      Yomar Sapus - 2011-08-29 09:59

      Grey B, They will be dancing to show un-happy they are. They just dont have a clue why they are un-happy.

      warickw - 2011-08-29 11:13

      And a chance to meet a nice unemployed ANCYL lady and have the sexy time and then get a social grant when the baby is born!

      Grey B - 2011-08-29 11:26

      The only problem is - It works!!!!!!!!

      daaivark - 2011-08-29 12:44

      Exactly Grey B: And that's the real tragedy.

  • Dal68 - 2011-08-29 09:26

    The end of jacob zuma??? The beginning of supression and hardship under malema????

      call a spade - 2011-08-29 09:34

      not that all people will just accept it. read the history. we are surely no tsutsis.

      Dal68 - 2011-08-29 09:49

      Not all are I agree, but with a huge support of uneducated jobless people in SA, this could be a real threat......How did Libya start....??

      Shrike - 2011-08-29 13:39

      Unfortunately that is the big risk in all this... If Juju wins this one we are all f$&?@d!

  • DerpyHooves - 2011-08-29 09:29

    "Winter is coming"

  • birdman - 2011-08-29 09:31

    Si Vis Pacem - Para Bellum! If these are the future leaders of our country, we have no future.

  • StevieWonder - 2011-08-29 09:41

    Ho hum... another day in South Africa. Another excuse to gippo work, spend our tax money and come out clean as a whistle... Welcome to Africa.

      UnproudSA - 2011-08-29 10:53

      Yes, I wonder about the supporters that are going to be there. Do they not have jobs, or have they all called in sick, like our genearally sick, lame and lazy labour force?

      Matt :-) - 2011-08-29 12:19

      Someone should remind them that you need a doctor's note for Mondays...

  • Darwinian - 2011-08-29 09:45

    "There are many that will be there during the night for a night vigil." Why????? Don't you feed your children? Don't you get rest for the next day's work? You the cANCer-YL the new parasite, sucking your belly's full, not thinking of your own future.....

      MuntuzaB - 2011-08-29 10:25

      The ANCYL's support base comes from the unemployable youth. Hence the growth in support for Juju's nationalisation BS. The unemployment youth are hoping for a free slice of the economic cake. We are sitting on a powder keg which is going to make Lybia, Egypt and Tunisia look like kindergarten play when the unemployed youth finally realises Juliarse is just using them for his own selfish ambition and instatiable greed

      warickw - 2011-08-29 11:16

      @MuntuzaB, I agree but do you think that they will ever realize that Julius is conning them or will they blindly accept another lie, ie the trust fund was set up for charity!

      MuntuzaB - 2011-08-29 12:14

      warwick, there's those who cannot think for themselves and hang onto everyword he says, like my friend sganja. But there's a gradual eye-opening happening. You must see the comments in other predominantly black forums

  • Kevin - 2011-08-29 09:49

    it is not right that the roads get closed as it inconveniences citizens.Fatboy is not an important person and we cannot waste police resources on this rubbish. I hope the joburh traffic and police are going to bill the anc for this nonsense.

      sganja - 2011-08-29 09:59

      Haha

      DW - 2011-08-29 10:42

      Sganja, your comment says it all. You think that the state coffers and resources are there for your purposes - which is EXACTLY why we HATE the ANCYL so much.

      sganja - 2011-08-29 10:54

      Hey DW

      Themba Thwala - 2011-08-29 10:58

      What's wrong sganja? You forgot the lines you hear from the ANCLY's meetings? I understand none of the current ANC members can think outside what the leadership says and they just regurgitate it as the gospel

      onthefence - 2011-08-29 11:45

      @sganja - I think a gold fish could beat you in a debate.

      sganja - 2011-08-29 11:51

      Haha onthefence

      MuntuzaB - 2011-08-29 12:16

      sganja, as long as you don't loot, break cars and shop windows and steal hawkers' fruits and vegetables when Juju fails to buy you Nando's and when he gets expelled, I'll believe your statement that you are on the fence

      onthefence - 2011-08-29 12:39

      @sganja - ha ha? I think the gold fish won

      sganja - 2011-08-29 12:43

      MuntuzaB I was laughing onthefence (the funny guy). @onthefence whatever I don't debate with fish (haha)

      THE.SRG - 2011-08-29 13:41

      @sganja...your comments stink like a rotten one though.

      onthefence - 2011-08-29 16:51

      @sganga - Just spoke to the fish, he requested an intellectual equal or he will not be at the debate.....looks like it's off

      tryanything - 2011-08-29 17:40

      And not a tea girl either

      Al - 2011-08-29 19:22

      Damn sganja you really are more dumb than Malema...

  • Audacious12 - 2011-08-29 09:57

    I've just seen post on the Libyan thread about how appalled you hypocrites were to discover the charred remains of civilians, yet here you openly call for the killing of supporters?

      Assegaai - 2011-08-29 10:30

      Hey muppet stop reposting everything.Why don't you come up with something original......maybe half a brain.....remember there is a big difference between a civilian and an ancyl supporter

      PinkAndProud - 2011-08-29 12:28

      Audcaious12 - Here's the thing. The charred remains belonged to decent people ie. human beings. The ANC Yoof Leaks aren't decent and the world wouldn't even notice if they weren't around. Sorry, I'm wrong, they would notice if they weren't around because life would be good and there wouldn't be the constant din of imbecilic hyenas in the background.

  • Born To Fish - 2011-08-29 10:10

    We are doomed in this country with people supporting dictators!

  • Kobie - 2011-08-29 10:14

    I think I heard sometime way back something like djou eie honnne byt djou die seerste

  • UnproudSA - 2011-08-29 10:22

    Has anyone contacted the SPCA to let them know that there will be a lot of stray animals on the streets?

      Jake - 2011-08-29 10:31

      @UnproudSA: You can't degrade animals like that!!!!! LOL! Rather get a few snipers to remove these votable mieliepap driven leeches from society!!

      LooneyTune - 2011-08-29 12:22

      Comment of the DAY

  • Hope - 2011-08-29 10:26

    Such insubordination against the ANC by the Youth League should not be tolerated.... where is the respect???

      Shrike - 2011-08-29 13:59

      Respect the ANC? Really? For what?

  • Boxxer - 2011-08-29 10:26

    No work no pay

  • Sir Charles - 2011-08-29 10:29

    Think of the smell !!!

  • beicime - 2011-08-29 10:44

    This march has nothing to do with intimidation. BUT... the guys inside the building must know that their re-election is at stake. Beware that Malema runs the ANC even if you don't believe it yet. You, inside the building, gave it away to Malema through corruption and maladministration.

      JR - 2011-08-29 12:50

      But listening to malema speaking yesterday, he tried to justify his greed and criminal activities with the Trust and tenders and not paying tax. God help us if this moron ever becomes president. I will burn my passport at the airport on the way out.

      Shrike - 2011-08-29 14:03

      @JR I agree.... Time for planning an exit strategy..... This could turn ugly quickly.... The wise man always plans ahead..... No need to go just yet.... But definitely know where to go and how when the time comes......

  • Gavin - 2011-08-29 10:45

    In Libya, they are getting rid of one tyrant, and in SA we are preparing to put one on the throne.

      Sammy - 2011-08-29 10:47

      Welcome to AFRICA I guess?

      Themba Thwala - 2011-08-29 10:55

      Sammy, Libya is also in Africa, duh!

  • Not Black - 2011-08-29 10:48

    Should Julius not have the Brains and Accumin to tell ALL his ANCYL supporters to stay away from this hearing? Surely if he is so confident, then why need support? He has the best opportunity to stand alone in this regard, and show the World, his Contry and his Supporters that he does possess diplomacy and can seriously contribute to a Peaceful SA. Unfortunately he cannot GET OFF the GRAVY TRAIN, as it is too fast now. Shame.

  • numbatoo - 2011-08-29 10:52

    Lets see who's committed to what. Board up your shops. Hawkers, take time off, it might get nasty... ( more shooting from the roof maybe?)

  • Musa Ngubane - 2011-08-29 10:55

    This is an internal ANC matter. Back off, bloody agents!

      MSGRule - 2011-08-29 11:03

      No it is not. It affects all of us what tweedle dumb and tweedle dumber gets up to. Just him saying things create uprising and chaos. If it was internal to the anc then it would have been just him and the leaders, no need for police. Do all his guards have licenses for the automatic rifles, have they had training?

      daaivark - 2011-08-29 12:48

      Well it remains to be seen if the ANC is actually going to deal with it. And with respect Musa, Malema's many many statements in public do make this a matter of public interest. Your comment lacks basis.... and content.

  • warickw - 2011-08-29 11:05

    I'm starting to believe that all ANCYL supporters are unemployed!

      MSGRule - 2011-08-29 11:10

      Yes I also get that feeling as a meeting in the street to support a "not sure what to sya here" is not considered industrial action. Unless they all took leave to support.................

      sganja - 2011-08-29 11:53

      warickw Then you have a big problem

      MuntuzaB - 2011-08-29 12:20

      A very large number is unemployed. Why else must they be bussed when they can drive their own cars? But there's also a handful that's employed in government departments and municipalities to sit and twiddle their thumbs the whole day and then collect their paycheque at the end of the month, like sganja and poloyatonki. They only have gr6 or so, and were employed mainly because in their cv's they wrote something like: "threw stones during apartheid, went to jail for 10 years."

  • Johan - 2011-08-29 11:24

    All of you struggling 53,000 War Veterans who vows to make protect your ANC leadership against continued intimidation from the ancyl YOUR TIME HAS COME to earn the pension you so desperately need.We all agree with the minister who says the ANC is not a pig that eats her kids. Wheter the kids are going to eat the pig well that seems very much in line with a Malema mentality. Probably the same menatility that elected Ghadafi to the CHAIR of the Arican Union and continue to entertain Mugabe as the undisputed head of Zimbabwe.Gives new meaning to the Intelligence Trap phenomenon , which basically means being hell bend on convincing yourself and others that a lump of horse manure is actully a fig. Oh Lord have mercy on Africa ..

  • wakhalimaster - 2011-08-29 11:57

    Let justice take place. Using "know nothing so-called YL cdes" in the name of support must be condemned in the harshest terms there eva can be. Innocent till proven guilty, but the YL is acting as people who knws dat dey are guilty.

  • Protest - 2011-08-29 12:41

    Will be interesting to see if Malema is going to arrive with his small army of Body Guards. Armed to the teeth to protect himself against the ANC this time.

  • ROBERTMZ - 2011-08-29 13:42

    MALEMA IS THE MAN.

      Shrike - 2011-08-29 14:09

      The man on trial yes, definitely!

      matla - 2011-08-29 15:10

      Yes, Malema is the man on his way out of Africa,moron

  • anfield - 2011-08-29 17:46

    Half the cops will probably join in.

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