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Cops shoot teen dead in front of family - report

2012-02-15 20:47

Johannesburg - A 15-year-old boy was shot dead by police in front of his family in Soweto, Eyewitness News reported on Wednesday.

The teenager, Thato Mokoka, was allegedly accused of being in possession of a firearm.

He was shot seven times after pleading with the police that he did not do anything wrong and that he did not have the gun, the family said.

The police woke the teenager’s family up by banging on their door in Dobsonville on Tuesday.

A family member said the police pointed a gun at the boy’s grandmother when she opened the door for them.

Police confirmed the boy was killed.

A case was opened with the Independent Complaints Directorate.

Comments
  • Sharmay - 2012-02-15 20:53

    Eat your words Cele.

      Adam - 2012-02-15 21:47

      Article is way to vague to comment on.

      Jessica - 2012-02-15 21:58

      I agree with Adam. There no facts only speculation

      fredahsm - 2012-02-15 22:02

      @sean: if not...............(please complete the sentence) it would have been different if ur comment was intended for the vague article by news24

      Da - 2012-02-15 22:07

      @ Sean i agree with you @ 15 years these are trouble some criminals, even 10 years ones are active in criminal activies. What if a cop was dead by this teen what were gonna comment?

      John - 2012-02-15 22:28

      Exactly Sharmay, The expected behaviour was police and the family to discuss the matter on the street and if the boy didn't had the gun, police to apologies for the inconvinience and to offer a free gardening service instead. It was non-inevitable what happen and my sincere condolences for the lost. In stuation like that parents or family members needs to take a rational decision of advsing the suspected to surender to law enforcing officer(s). He will be questioned at the station and maybe detained for 24 hrs. If there is not a solid evidence of acusation...he will return back home in one peace. Police cannot debate with any suspect. Obviosly the use of excessive power stays. Don't provoke law enforcment officer. You don't know how situation will be judged under high adrenaline. Obey to their commands and don't make any sudden moves. Show your "unarmed" hands and don't take stupid initiatives. You may resist unlawful arrest only verbaly, but police stil reamins in power to keep you in official custody. You just need one police rookie to fire a shot...don't wait for this moment. You will not be able to discuss excessive power afterwards with them. Instead of parent's debates that boy "don't have gun" and "don't do crime" they should assist the law enforcing officers at scene and avoid situation to go out of control. Does Thato Mokoka resist the arrest or the door opening police fire at him? ....About Cele....hahaha. That is a bad joke here.

      Kevin - 2012-02-16 06:31

      There can never be a reason to shoot a 15 year old kid. Life for the guilty or will the docket simply go missing.Hope the family makes a copy of all statements.

      John - 2012-02-16 08:23

      24 news just posted: Mokoka was lying on his stomach with his hands above his head when the policeman fired. .... I can't belive this. I tought we living in civilised society. This is act of extortion, murder....not a Police routine.

      Makatikamusona - 2012-02-16 09:19

      @Da Please don't be an a$$, police must shoot only when their life was under thread. Ohh on your argument, what if he was white, what was gonna be your comment

      nkosiab - 2012-02-16 10:40

      Adam you are extremely correct

  • funkytwinky - 2012-02-15 20:55

    WTF???????

      JohhnyBGood - 2012-02-16 10:15

      http://www.news24.com/SouthAfrica/News/ICD-probing-cop-who-shot-teen-5-times-20120216

  • Rudluv7 - 2012-02-15 20:55

    talk about police brutality @ its best

      Smiley - 2012-02-15 21:05

      Cele's "Shoot to kill" Class of 2010 are doing him proud.

      Anthony - 2012-02-15 21:54

      And than there are those who want to send the police to the schools , to see to it that the kids are in time at school!!!! It is an insane, insane idea!!!!!!!!!!!

  • Louise - 2012-02-15 20:56

    That is disgusting!! Shame his poor family and the police are suppose to be here to protect us - they are cowards - too scared to go after proper criminals - rather pick on children!!!!!!!!!!!! Did they find this so called gun??????????????

  • sedeshan - 2012-02-15 20:57

    You could get shot for trying to file a case with the police these days.

  • Eduard - 2012-02-15 20:58

    Condolences to the family

  • levi.moleme - 2012-02-15 21:00

    eish, another shoot 2 kill victim...ths is really sad

      Ben - 2012-02-15 21:30

      Rather wait till we have the full report. It would be terrible if this is true.

  • Swapie - 2012-02-15 21:00

    This is just plain wrong. Are we becoming a police state now?

  • eddiebant - 2012-02-15 21:01

    Terrible..

  • Gregory Wells-Clifton - 2012-02-15 21:02

    The gun News24 - where is the gun. Surely your 'journalist' asked this obvious question????? As in many of your 1/2 baked reports, sorely lacking in content.

      Alex - 2012-02-15 22:22

      Surely if the victim was armed the police would have been SURE to mention it when confirming that the boy had been killed... It is after all their entire reason for entering the home of a sleeping family, pulling a gun on an elderly woman who, by all accounts, was believed NOT to be in possession of a firearm and killing a child. Surely they would also have made sure to mention that the search was infact legal and the police acted accordingly in the situation? Surely the inclusion of these facts when confirming the boy was killed would make their actions look less like murder? Sometimes the absence of information is the information....

  • Sylvia - 2012-02-15 21:03

    Absolutely shocking!! Shot him 7 times? Why couldn't they just take him in for questioning? I despair.

  • Hermann - 2012-02-15 21:12

    Oh boy, another cover up coming our way.

  • boatmedic - 2012-02-15 21:15

    That could have been the future president! They are the future and Cele and his gang of unschooled thugs do what they want!! 7 times? FFS!!!!

  • Barefoot - 2012-02-15 21:17

    So when is part 2,3 and 4 of the story coming? we know you already have them typed out... bring them with the spelling mistakes we'll correct them

  • boatmedic - 2012-02-15 21:18

    You get what you vote for!

      werner.steenkamp1 - 2012-02-15 21:35

      That is soooo true!!! Wish everyone will open their eyes.

      John - 2012-02-15 22:54

      Unfortunately its what we get, for what others vote for....

      Juan - 2012-02-16 02:00

      This must be the best comment of the year

  • Isaac - 2012-02-15 21:19

    Ya neh, they're quick to pull the trigger when it's a helpless civilian...I wonder what the excuse for this one will be. Abo Cele Junior

  • Ludwig - 2012-02-15 21:19

    When I was a little boy my father use to tell me if you got a problem go to a policeman. I cant tell my boy the same thing!

  • Mya - 2012-02-15 21:37

    This is a tragic story, imagine how afraid this child was and his family helpless. A real South African tragedy. Our police are becoming more and more militant and less and less competent. RIP

  • Jethro Sledge Lebotse - 2012-02-15 21:45

    yes that is what we voted for,the cop must be arrested. RIP BoY

      Garth - 2012-02-16 06:48

      `Jethro' Tull? Percy `Sledge'?

  • Perfume5 - 2012-02-15 21:49

    Nothing in the article stating the COPS HAVE BEEN ARRESTED....Bheki Cele you suddenly had amnesia about your "shoot to kill" command!!!! A 15yr old has lost his life. The family should sue. R.I.P young man, condolences to his family.

      freddie.burger - 2012-02-15 22:14

      Yup. But when a 15year old pick up a gun, he is a element, not a boy no more!!

  • jaco.duplessis2 - 2012-02-15 21:49

    I think this story is rubbish - let us wait until we hear what really happened. No chance that the police will shoot an unarmed child.

      Kevin - 2012-02-16 06:34

      7 shots. They must have all made an error at the same time

  • John - 2012-02-15 21:49

    Shot 7 times?? HAve they gone totaly mad? Was this poor child doing anything worse then Malema and his comrades?

  • Nkosinathi - 2012-02-15 21:59

    Condolences to the family, I think we also need to sit down and think what could you have done. It's tragic but put yourself in his/her shoes. I doubt half of all these people that commented below will approach an armed person, regardless of his age. Shoot to kill is not the way forward but I dont think our cops get credit for the good work they do, always gets over shadowed by things like these.

      Justin McBride - 2012-02-15 22:35

      And our cops get paid really poor wages and do not undergo effective training.

  • Johann - 2012-02-15 22:02

    Madness!!

  • Heaven.Tux - 2012-02-15 22:09

    The only people who should be held responsible is bHEKI "aim de head" cELE & the ministry of police & as for the officers who shot seven bullets to kill a teen deserve 27 behind bars.

  • Lynn Petersen - 2012-02-15 22:09

    So is saps are not taking sick days leave then They are pointing guns @ gogos & shooting teenagers ... What next supplying confiscated narcotics to drug lords *just saying*

  • Anele Mveku - 2012-02-15 22:18

    Hawu! Am SHOCKED are these people mad or what

  • robbieyahu - 2012-02-15 22:24

    i feel great pity for the family of the child !!! this is what you get when you tell cops to "shoot-to-kill" ..... the family must sue "cele" without hessitation !!! .... this is becoming a song .... help the police and baton yourself !!! pathetic ...imagine the cops killing your son or brother or parent in front of you !!!! horrific !!

  • ross.hampton.cole - 2012-02-15 22:34

    Story too vague, but if they shot him 7 times, it means that he likely pulled the gun out with intent, or threatened the police. I've seen how 15 year old boys act these days, if they wanna be "gangsta", then they will be treated as such.

      Onke Dali - 2012-02-16 07:35

      So if you're unarmed and threaten the police you should ve shot seven times ? You obviously don't know what you're talking about. That's someone's child mudered in cold blood by those who are supposed to serve and protect!! Where's the gun then ?

  • Elaine Weir - 2012-02-15 22:49

    Just like everything else in SA (ie service delivery, education, etc) the standard of South African police is pathetic! Whether the kid had a gun or not, shoving a gun in his grandmother's face and shooting him 7 times is inexcusable. Are they saying trained policemen can't safely disarm a 15 yr old boy? The police are the last people you call when in trouble, they take 20 minutes for you to spell your address to them and 2 hours to get there when someone has broken into your house and is still in there - it really happened to us!

  • Thuthukile Madlabane - 2012-02-15 22:57

    Condelences to the family, no one deserves to witness a death of a family member, its so traumatising. If this is really true shame on the police, this is just pure madness. Its not even the right protocol to handle a case, there's suppose to be questioning first not KILLING!!!

  • Muruti - 2012-02-15 23:04

    THIS IS A SEROIUS ABUSE OF POWER,, SUM1 MUST GET LIFE SENTANCE IF THIS IS HOW IT HAPPENED..HOW DO U SHOOT 15 YYEAR OLD BOY IN FRONT OF HIIS PARENTS OR FAMILY ..THAT IS UNTHINKABLE..I WASNT THERE BUT I SUSPECT A RAT

  • Leendert - 2012-02-16 00:01

    Sounds like another half-assed article. Pretty sure there is an actual story to accompany the death.

  • braamc - 2012-02-16 04:30

    The boy was shot seven times by the police. They are fat and stupid, either sleep on the job, off sick, illiterate, corrupt to the core. What a fine bunch at SAPD

  • brionyl.french - 2012-02-16 05:38

    So did he or did he not have a gun and was he dangerous? Or did South African police just force themselves on a family and shoot a 15 year old boy? Where are the FACTS!!! News 24 is becoming more of a gossip column than a news site

  • Kevin - 2012-02-16 06:29

    Sounds like these thug Cele cops all need to do life.Come on Hawks. You are very slow bringing fatboy to book ,but maybe you can nail these cops.

  • Princess - 2012-02-16 07:15

    this is beyond disgusting, we are not even safe in our own homes from the people who are supposed to protect us.

  • alanaparris - 2012-02-16 07:19

    What the hell is wrong with the police. They are supposed to protect not murder the innocent. I don't trust them.

  • clayton.bezuidenhout - 2012-02-16 07:25

    WTF!!! Are you being serious? This is an outrage. Looks like the shoot to kill policy has been taken way to seriously. The guy was a teenager and didn't have any weapons on him. What did he do to deserve this?

  • Phila - 2012-02-16 07:28

    Just because its a black boy, the story becomes too short to comment on, and now a boy is dead yet peopl still think cops dont shoot for no reason? ever heard of police brutality? a boy is dead, a family has lost a son andsome people see nothing wrong in that!

  • Sean1877 - 2012-02-16 07:32

    Two sides to every story. i will reserve comment.

  • Noquecx Gandhi' - 2012-02-16 07:35

    Talk about protection!!! 'N was he holding a gun when he was shot?

  • SJ Kleynhans - 2012-02-16 07:52

    Its easy to critic the police sitting in your office staring at your computer screen! You take a gun, go into soweto, bang down a door of a potential killer and see what happens! The police won't just bang on a random door and shoot a boy! What did that boy do? If intellegence said he had a gun then he will be recognised as armed and dangerous, and treated in the same way! And then, if that person pulls out what looks like a gun you have seconds to react! And they did! Get story behind the story before commenting! FIY...there is stil some damn good cops out there, working they're arses of, putting they're lives in perril every day! You go SAPD, if he chose to be a crimminal, he will be treated that way!

  • SJ Kleynhans - 2012-02-16 07:53

    Its easy to critic the police sitting in your office staring at your computer screen! You take a gun, go into soweto, bang down a door of a potential killer and see what happens! The police won't just bang on a random door and shoot a boy! What did that boy do? If intellegence said he had a gun then he will be recognised as armed and dangerous, and treated in the same way! And then, if that person pulls out what looks like a gun you have seconds to react! And they did! Get story behind the story before commenting! FIY...there is stil some damn good cops out there, working they're arses of, putting they're lives in perril every day! You go SAPD, if he chose to be a crimminal, he will be treated that way!

  • Parlo J Mkatazo - 2012-02-16 08:14

    About 7 years ago, there was a guy on his late teens/early 20's that had killed plus 50 people..inocent n other gangsters. He was the most wanted in khayelitsha, cape town at that time. So because they are not telling the story of this 15 year old guy doesn't mean he didn't do anything and i doubt police lost their minds and just started shooting at him

      Onke Dali - 2012-02-16 09:18

      Even if this boy has mudered 100 people it doesn't give police the right to kill him if he did not pose any threat either to them or other civilians during the arrest. This is why we have law....let him be tried, found guilty if he is guilty then sentenced appropriately. This is not the dark ages, law and,order must prevail.

  • Thuli - 2012-02-16 08:16

    This story has many missing facts.

  • Nasiefa - 2012-02-16 08:22

    YEP WHY WOULD THE COPS JUST SHOOT THE BOY??? DOES'NT MAKE SENSE WE NEED MORE !!!

  • shayastaj - 2012-02-16 08:32

    Maybe if the cops stop taking so much of sick leave, they will be able to do their jobs properly ;-)

  • naphtaly.calvin - 2012-02-16 08:42

    @Adam-tell my fellow reader,tell them.

  • Elle-Black - 2012-02-16 08:55

    7 gunshots? wow he must have been armed to the teeth