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Cops to deal with school latecomers

2012-02-13 12:19

Johannesburg - Pupils who arrive late for school in Soweto from Tuesday will be taken to a police station and their parents will be called to fetch them, the Gauteng education department and Lead SA said on Monday.

"It's time for things to change," Gauteng education MEC Barbara Creecy said in a joint statement on Monday.

About 700 pupils and several teachers arrived late for classes at the Lavela Secondary School on Monday, when Creecy made a surprise visit.

They arrived between 30 minutes and an hour after the 07:50 bell rang.

"From tomorrow [Tuesday], anyone arriving late will be taken to the Jabulani police station.... We will then call your parents to come and collect you," Creecy said.

"We have been watching you for a week. Whether the sun shines or whether it rains, you are late. You arrive here long after the bell has rung," she said.

According to the statement, some teachers said they were late because of long travelling distances and traffic. Pupils said they had woken-up late.

Creecy and Lead SA would return to the school to conduct spot checks.

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Comments
  • Clayton - 2012-02-13 12:28

    What a joke , have the cops got nothing better to do than catch school late comers , really MEC Barbara Creecy ???

      wesleywt - 2012-02-13 12:37

      Truancy is still a crime. You stop the big crimes by punishing the little ones.

      Robsschele - 2012-02-13 15:58

      When a pupil expected to be picked up for police station he will just stay away completely. Close and lock the gates at a certain time and refuse them entry. If a pupil missed so many days of school he is refused to write exam. The teacher who is absent without permission gets a verbal warning, then written warning, then final warning, a hearing and dismissal. Some of these politicians get really crazy ideas like our minister of transport for example.

  • Lyndatjie - 2012-02-13 12:28

    Lordie - can I do the same for my work as well? I'm so sick and tired of the *African Time* excuse.... :(

  • brionyl.french - 2012-02-13 12:29

    I say arrest them and let them see how crappy a holding cell is... Show them what lack of education will put them in prison

  • rofras - 2012-02-13 12:30

    Why dont the teachers call the parents? this is not the duties of the police. there is serious crime that needs attention. idi$ts

      Retardus - 2012-02-13 12:34

      We do... No effect !!!

      ben.bezuidenhout3 - 2012-02-13 12:50

      If the teachers will be allowed to discipline the pupils there will be no late commers. When I was in school you get a hiding for comming late! Bring back corperal punichment!!!!!!!

  • Clayton - 2012-02-13 12:31

    Late Teachers should be dealt with by the schools and governing body's , late students should be punished by the school

      Retardus - 2012-02-13 12:36

      Late teachers are dealt with. They deduct a days pay after a few hours of being late or leaving early. Make a few calls before saying idiotic non-sense.

      Sipho - 2012-02-13 12:55

      I agree with retard, kids should be at school, not in the streets!

      Cracker - 2012-02-13 13:00

      @ Is that how they do it? That means you can easily take an hour or say per day off. Late or leaving early. As long as you stay within a certain number of hours. Or how does it work?

  • Jayne - 2012-02-13 12:31

    So now the police stations are to become aftercare facilities? Why bother to get to school on time if your teacher is not on time? Nothing said of the punishment for late teachers....

      Retardus - 2012-02-13 12:37

      Read comment above...

  • Shirley - 2012-02-13 12:32

    At last someone is taking action! Children caught bunking classes during the day should receive the same. The youth of today need some SERIOUS tough love!!!!!

      Janice - 2012-02-13 12:37

      Bunking, yes, but arriving late?? Come on, theres many reasons for that.

      Sipho - 2012-02-13 12:56

      They must get up earlier! Like we have to, to arrive on time at work! Tired of the laziness of pupils and teachers!

      Shirley - 2012-02-13 13:29

      99.9% of them are lazy,disinterested and dont care. If you arrive at work late constantly,your boss wont be pleased.....its called LIFE!

  • Janice - 2012-02-13 12:36

    I think its RIDICULOUS!!!

      Sipho - 2012-02-13 12:56

      Do you have another solution?

      dewald.galjaard - 2012-02-13 13:08

      ja. MOER hulle

  • AyGeewils - 2012-02-13 12:36

    Late for school - late for life ...

  • Danie - 2012-02-13 12:36

    Are they going to call the parents of the teachers who arrive late as well?

      Sipho - 2012-02-13 12:57

      Take away their pay!

  • Retardus - 2012-02-13 12:37

    This should be fun...

  • Dennis - 2012-02-13 12:41

    Oh this should be good !! Typical anc, pass the buck !!

      thabo.ramabele - 2012-02-13 12:49

      This has nothing to do with ANC,first of all do you know whose decision this was.......grow up. I dont belog to any party but at time use common sense..

  • maseratifittipaldi - 2012-02-13 12:42

    Good to see some action. Another plan is to only start classes once the last pupil has arrived. The final bell is then delayed by the amount of time the pupils came late. Overtime for the teachers and other staff is then booked to the latecomer's parents,on a pro rata basis.

  • ellis.tjiueza - 2012-02-13 12:44

    Fight CRIME not latecomers!

      John - 2012-02-13 12:56

      Ellis these late comers end up becoming criminals, if you can change one of them to be a better citizen then its well worth it....

      Sipho - 2012-02-13 12:58

      Start by teaching children discipline!

  • Blip - 2012-02-13 12:44

    The cops surely have serious crime to deal with rather than waste time hunting truants?

  • Warwick - 2012-02-13 12:44

    Why bother with an education when the least educated of the lot all get government or municipal jobs and earn millions with all the extra perks added on.

  • Sibongile - 2012-02-13 12:45

    Wow, good move, lets hope crime will come down.

  • fritz.vandenberg - 2012-02-13 12:46

    Brilliant....... the last time I looked we needed more Policemen to fight crime. How can Ms Creecy justify this? or did I miss something?

      Silver - 2012-02-13 12:57

      It's called "Procrastination" and it is something that a lot of people in positions of power excel at.

  • matvee111 - 2012-02-13 12:46

    WTF...are we turning in2 a nanny state now...

  • Josh - 2012-02-13 12:46

    We will teach students the value of school by sending them home when they are late?

  • Tshepo Tasty-t Moropa Mosiane - 2012-02-13 12:49

    what about the teachers who come late?

      Tammy - 2012-02-13 12:52

      give them a bonus LOL

      Gerhard - 2012-02-13 12:56

      Suspend them on full pay pending the outcome of a disciplinary to be held in December 2012.

  • liselvdm - 2012-02-13 12:50

    That is just so inappropriate! Firstly, police should not be wasting valuable resources on kids late for school. Secondly, kids should not be 'handled' by police for any reason other than committing an actual crime! And with the transport system as slack as it is in this country, you want to do this to the kids (who don't even get to choose by what method they travel)?? What great encouragement for our youth, to treat them like criminals...

  • dewald.galjaard - 2012-02-13 12:50

    This is bull and has gone quite far enough. Give those kids each good hiding and you will see IMMEDIATE results - without burdening the taxpayer. Stop beating around the bush and making excuses.

  • Grace - 2012-02-13 12:52

    Talk about a Police State ! What happened to good old-fashioned Truant Officers ?

  • Tammy - 2012-02-13 12:52

    now the pupils will have a good excuse to burn down the school - watch this space

  • Louise Higham - 2012-02-13 12:52

    Who they going to blame for this mess, apartheid oh dear not again. The teachers should be fired and the kids given a dam good hiding.

  • Sipho - 2012-02-13 12:53

    It's a good thing! In the old days the Police also use to question (white) children what they were doing in the streets during school time. It's time the children (and especially teachers) are disciplined!

  • SeeVeeDeeEl - 2012-02-13 12:53

    Stupid stupid stupid. Africa @ work. Together with the daft buggers at 702.

  • Ditantane - 2012-02-13 12:57

    what the hell is she smoking?

  • Cameron - 2012-02-13 12:58

    Heres an idea....leave the cops to sort out that little problem of CRIME in our country... Soooo frustrating to read crap like this!!!!!!!

      Sipho - 2012-02-13 13:00

      This is where crime begins ... children without discipline!

      Cameron - 2012-02-13 13:01

      So is it up to the police to discipline aswell?????? Wow never new they had to be part time parents of other peoples kids aswell as CRIME FIHTERS

  • william - 2012-02-13 12:59

    ONE THING IS FOR SURE, THE COPS WILL BE THE ONES WHO ARRIVE LATE!!!!

  • Mlungisi - 2012-02-13 13:00

    waste of time, kids fear nothing so are they gonna do this all over SA?

  • Tammy - 2012-02-13 13:02

    ai dis lekker in Afrika LOL

  • Samantha - 2012-02-13 13:02

    will detention not work ? do they have detention at SA schools?

      Hester - 2012-02-13 13:28

      Yes Samantha, some schools still have detention and my grandsons are very scared of that.

  • paul.maarman - 2012-02-13 13:04

    Why?....total waste of resources! if you late, three strikes and then your parents get notified...who the hell comes up with these bright ideas?

  • nkosiab - 2012-02-13 13:05

    Its 700 pupils plus teachers - how many teachers? wow mamamiya!!!! how many pupils does the school take?

  • Mduduzi - 2012-02-13 13:06

    it is most definately necessary, one thng that they need to take into account is that the cant force learners to change their behaviors but they can educate them that.

  • Yvonne - 2012-02-13 13:08

    Why put additional pressure on a resource already unable to cope (police). If the student and staff arrive late lock them out! If they can't be bothered then why should we (taxpayers) foot the bill. If they are locked out X amount of times then take disciplinary action...

  • ekgagudi - 2012-02-13 13:09

    It's about time that Order and Dedication is brought back in township schools. My son is 8yrs leaves the house at 6am daily traveling to Rosebank for school and he is never late. so what's wrong with kasi kids & teachers. hope Ms Creecy action will help...

      Nyana Earl M. Potwana - 2012-02-13 13:16

      This is just insane. The Department of Education must sort out their own house without utilizing the Police. They have systems they can use of which they are not using. Let the Cops concentrate on other issues not late coming of learners and teachers. I'm worried about the correctness and sanity of the people who came up with this idea.

  • Karabo Pro Dunywa - 2012-02-13 13:09

    It was always said cops are lazzy to attend to real crimes; like murder, robbery, rape, assault and others so now they are being send to school for the late comers students, and our cops will be insulted by these students for arresting them and being taken to police stations and fether more parents to these students will opening cases against cops, i think this is not a right decision for our cops.

  • mariska.ras - 2012-02-13 13:11

    As a teacher I think this should definitely be taken seriously, just as an attempt to scare them so it will not be an everyday occurrence. Late teachers and students can really disrupt the momentum of the day unnecessarily. Obviously this should not be an excuse to not responding to other emergencies.

  • mike.bester1 - 2012-02-13 13:16

    It is called discipline and pride ?

  • Mya - 2012-02-13 13:17

    Why not try a different approach. If the latecomers are complaining about distance to travel and its such a big problem, then why not consider starting school later, by say 30 mins to an hour. Same as european style. Here school starts at 8,30 or 9 am and ends about 3 or 4, with after care facilities. It could be a solution. Punish the teachers harshly for arriving late, let's be honest, how can you expect kids to arrive on time if their teachers are late and disinterested. Many of these kids have to get themselves to school in the morning as their parents have to leave home at ungodly hours to get to their jobs in the city. So yes, you could try hold the parents accountable, but how about having a good reason to go to school. Teachers who are excited by what they do, motivating kids and educating them.

      Lana - 2012-02-13 13:39

      Learning and education must be the main motivation to go to school. Why must they have a good reason otherwise to go to school. No discipline from Government, so no discipline everywhere. Get DISCIPLINE back in everything. My mother also start working very early and we have to get up and catch a bus, in some instances 2 buses, and still be in time for school!

      Mya - 2012-02-14 01:35

      My point is have a look at the state of education, are you sure that they have a reason to go to school? Matric students still unable to read and write properly. I don't believe that the people can all really be so stupid, there is a major problem with the education system too. And Lana, can you really compare your situation to theirs? Many of these kids' mothers are domestic workers, working for minimum wage and often times less than minimum wage, waking up at 4 am to get to their jobs in the city, having to be on time to get their bosses kids ready for school. Many of these kids don't have a mum to get them ready in the morning and pack them a lovely little lunch. Many of these kids would be lucky if they had the bus fare to get to school and often have to walk for kms to get there. So think a little further before you try to compare your situation with their situation. You with your lovely suburb house and them in their tiny shacks.

  • solverman - 2012-02-13 13:18

    I remember back in my day... late for school , I had to have a letter from my folks... if not, is was straight to class via the principles office with my bum tanned.... funny enough, even though I had to walk to school... I broke into a jog or sprint if time was against me.

  • Adam - 2012-02-13 13:22

    How did this woman ever become MEC for education? She is as stupid as the rest of her comrades and should be educated to enable her to act responsibly.I am getting tired of this incompetence, why do the people still vote a struggling party into power??.

  • Alexis - 2012-02-13 13:29

    nothing kills me more than reading these comments and in a matter of seconds there is credible solutions here, yet the people, in this case, Ms Creepy, who has the problem at hand and has a team at her disposal tasked to sort this out and the incentive of a massive salary could not for the life of them come up with a sensible solution....the best i got here was, lock the darn gate!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • Richard - 2012-02-13 13:30

    Mark my words today, in 2 weeks headline... "Cops RAPE latecomer" "Cops accepted bribe from latecomer" wait and see.

      Jim - 2012-02-13 13:51

      True, someone will regret this decision.

  • Evan - 2012-02-13 13:32

    This is NOT absolution, it's another waste of taxpayers money. why can't the police go after farm murderers and rapists instead!

  • Remi Du Preez - 2012-02-13 13:33

    This is a bit of an overkill. When we used to be late, the only way you could get into class was from a letter from the principal. He would give you a permission letter but also detention if your excuse wasn't valid. The idea is there; however schools should easily be able to control and manage latecomers. No need to use the resources of SAPS.

  • celeste.rsa - 2012-02-13 13:33

    The police have far more pressing issues to deal with than pupils arriving at school late.