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Cosatu: Western Cape tourism in crisis

2011-07-22 13:26

Cape Town - The Congress of SA Trade Unions (Cosatu) on Friday called for urgent action to address what it called the crisis in the tourism industry, which is the biggest contributor to the economy of the Western Cape.

"Cosatu believes that an investigation should be put in place that will lead to regulation that protects the long-term interest of the industry," the federation's Western Cape provincial secretary Tony Ehrenreich said in a statement.

"The cause of the crisis can be found in the overcharging of international tourists," he said.

The exorbitant prices for wines and crayfish were contributing to visitors feeling ripped off.

"And so the important word of mouth that underlies a tourist destination success is not assisting the SA industry."

The exclusion of workers from the tourism board was another problem and Cosatu would insist that workers' interest be directly represented by a labour representative before funding to support the industry was released.

"We will further call for an independent body to examine the crisis, as the industrial players have been colluding with government at a local level."

This collusion was demonstrated by the Cape Town city council "giving the tourism industry R40m to spend on themselves", he said.


Comments
  • King Solomon - 2011-07-22 13:29

    Why doesn't COSATU just go on strike. That fixes everything.

      Together - 2011-07-22 13:32

      I think that this is their intention in the Cape. They don't have to worry about messing up the game lodges in Mpumalanga - those are already shutting due to crime - and the murders along the Wild Coast are taking care of derailing Eastern Cape tourism. Their difficulty is how to mess up the Western Cape's tourism industry - and I suppose this is how it begins. We'll see if people really are put off or not.

      cliffarc - 2011-07-22 13:40

      - I wondered when this idiot was going to chirp again. High prices for wine and crayfish, are the least of this industries concerns. The high crime in SA , is what's keeping the tourists away. This Ehrenreich is a clueless individual.

      johan - 2011-07-22 13:43

      SPOT ON. COSATU, READ VERY CAREFULLY------------ PEOPLE IN GLASS HOUSES SHOULD'NT THROW STONES.

      Darr3n - 2011-07-22 13:45

      I actually think COSATU have a point here. I'm a South Africa living in London that visited Cape Town for the first time last year. I was shocked at how expensive it was, especially around the V & A Waterfront.

      daaivark - 2011-07-22 13:51

      @darr3n.... You are right, I fear. As a capetonian I am shocked by the high prices levied in this city, particularly in the elite tourist areas such as the V & A..... I know for a fact that many of our street vendors offer vastly different prices to people that are obviously not from Cape Town. But in the conventional stores at the waterfront prices are just ridiculous. One pays considerably less for the same or similar stuff in lower profile areas.

      jds - 2011-07-22 13:58

      Supply and demand people!!The markets sort themselves out!!

      WiseOwl2 - 2011-07-22 13:59

      Ehrenreich - just another frustrated chip on the shoulder ANC cadre.

      SOOTHSAYER - 2011-07-22 14:30

      U are a stupid Owl indeed!! let common sense prevail

      scott - 2011-07-22 14:42

      @daaivark, its always been that way. In Sea-point restaurants in the early 80's they used to have 2 menus. 1 for locals, 1 for tourists.

      DW - 2011-07-22 14:54

      In every large city in the world there are centres where the tourists are ripped off. Just stay away from V&A. I dont go near there when I visit the Cape. A total ripoff. Locals should know better. And tourists with any savvy will know to not shop in places like that. Want to buy some good wine? Visit the wine estates or the local bottle stores. You really dont need to buy at V&A prices. Quay4 serves fantastic food but at 3x the price of other very good seafood restaurants around town - so just dont go there. If they lose patronage due to their high prices, they will either drop the prices or go out of business. Thats how the market works.

      Virginia - 2011-07-22 15:05

      Darr3n, UK and Europe have nothing to complain about, your prices have jumped 5 fould, we visit Europe once a year, been to UK twice since May 2010, working on rate of exchange UK reataurants and Hotels are extremely expensive. You still come here with a ROE 11 to one.

      kungfupanda - 2011-07-22 15:46

      Is this a joke? Firstly, Tony is a disgruntled ANC mayoral candidate in the Western Cape. You can't believe anything he says. Secondly, it's wine and crayfish for heavens sake!!!!! If we were overcharging people for bread it would be a different matter. Tony has finally lost it! At first I thought this was an April fools joke, but we are in July.

      ray - 2011-07-22 16:54

      The biggest problem for the economy is Cosatu itself

      Worldwise - 2011-07-22 22:48

      "Cosatu believes that an investigation should be put in place that will lead to regulation that protects the long-term interest of the industry," It'srecisely the lack of regulation that is making it succeed! Regulation makes capitalism go out of business and then Tony's little luxury of intellectual communism can't be funded. How many homes would Tony have been allowed had he been a true communist? He would have had to give his holiday home to the state which would have given it to someone without a home. Right Tony?

      minimac - 2011-07-23 11:58

      next they are going to want to nationalize the hotels and restaurants, they cant have hardworking people making money that they could be putting in their own pockets.

      Organist-1 - 2011-07-23 14:07

      Ehrenreich is like a baby schoolboy who like playing with mud and throwing clayballs. He forgets that he who chucks mus at someone always gets dirtiest the most as much of it sticks to yourself. I must however agree with one thing and that is that the Waterfront prices are tourist related and I don't support any of the shops or restaurants there. Prices are outrageous but then it isn't run by the DA. If i am not mistaken, the landlords are muslims from the middle east and squeeze every cent out of the traders in rent.

      Anonymous Thinker - 2011-07-24 13:04

      if they strike in the hospitality industry the workers will lose a lot of money and jobs. Most contracts don't allow striking because it's service industry and customers come first. And in the industry if they not at work they don't get paid. Waiters and bar staff get paid for hours and shifts worked. Besides, striking won't fix the terrible service that a lot of tourists complain about.

  • TamaraSays - 2011-07-22 13:32

    Perhaps all the hatespeech spewing from politicians is also contributing to international tourists choosing not to visit our shores? Or that we are the murder and rape capitals of the world? Just a thought.

      ilollipop - 2011-07-22 13:49

      Stop making sense, stop making sense, stop making sense...

      TamaraSays - 2011-07-22 14:22

      I know, it's annoying, isn't it? :-)

      TamaraSays - 2011-07-22 14:30

      I know, it's annoying, isn't it? :-)

      Phiwe - 2011-07-22 15:10

      tourism has always been at a high of 8-10 million year on year, which is higher than ever in SA. This year we are still yet to see the figures, however in the first 3 months of 2011 SA received 2 million tourists, which is more than 2010 when peopl wanted to come for the world cup. I'd expect the number to be considerably more now! I'm not saying you're wrong but I'm just saying nonetheless, with evidence which directly disproves the notion that tourists are staying away because of the crime rate! I just looked at the most recent per capita murder statistics by country and I have to admit I am shocked that South Africa is not even in the top 10. But I strongly suspect that SA has not yet been investigated for recent stats, and I would guess we would fall within the top 10. Other statistics, while placing South Africa high up on homicide rates, they do not exactly put us on top. The favourite adage of some, who sometimes seem to say it with a sense of glee, that South Africa is the murder capital of the world, which implies that we are top, is false. That is if you replenish your thinking with recent findings. Crime has been going down by about 3% year on year since 2009, I think. Correct me if I am wrong. The same stats website, that doesnt put SA on top for murder, unfortunately puts us on top for rapes per capita which is sad. Interestingly, Australia which is often regarded as a markedly different country, ranks as one of the highest for rape. Hey, I'm just saying!!

      TamaraSays - 2011-07-22 15:26

      Phiwe, all depends whether you use the SAPS stats, or Interpol. The one is about a 1/3 of the other.

      TamaraSays - 2011-07-22 15:28

      Phiwe, all depends whether you use the SAPS stats, or Interpol. The one is about a 1/3 of the other.

      TamaraSays - 2011-07-22 15:28

      And Phiwe, those facts about tourists that you talk about just reinforce the idea that the 'overpricing' is not an issue either. It all boils down to governmental nit picking again. Instead of focusing on REAL issues, they try to point fingers at non issues. Which makes for great media fodder, but not much else.

      Phiwe - 2011-07-22 15:55

      Tamara, I guess it really does depend on the stats one uses to suit ones prejudices. Obviously there is a discrepancy out there, so given this can we please not categorically say as though we are absolutely cetain?! And I havent hinted anywhere that I thought COSATU is right, as it happens I think they are wrong and that tourists will come to Cape Town (WC) even with the high price and for goodness sake not because of it's politics (as most would like to think) but because it's a beautiful place. Howver, my stats show tourism in SA as a country and not just WC and I dont know the state of tourism there but I'm sure it's very healthy and not in crisis. But I will add this, the main reason South Africa has become one fo the best tourism destinations in the world (which is it) is precisely because it's affordable and cheap and you get more for your money. Cape Town was recently voted as top 10 most expensive city in the world, that will have positives and negatives. The negative of high price is that, WC may actually lose out to other beautiful places in SA that offer things cheaper, like the Eastern Cape! And tourism in the EC is looking pretty good and should get better, I hope.

      TamaraSays - 2011-07-22 16:35

      I've always thought that the Eastern Cape could be a major tourist drawcard - it should be - it's absolutely beautiful. If only more attention was paid to it. I will concede that Cape Town is VERY touristy - and often overpriced, but I think to make any negative connotations about price only is ludicrous.

      TamaraSays - 2011-07-22 16:39

      Then again, in Cape Town, I think they're selling the 'elite' idea. Wine estates, beach front hotels, snobby clubs. I actually took a Brit on a tour once, and he remarked how much Clifton looks like the South of France. It's all about branding and marketing, and if that's working for them, why not?

      Phiwe - 2011-07-22 16:53

      Economically speaking price is very important. But a high price is not an indicator of future failure, it just means things are expensive. However, an argument can be had that if a place is deemed to be overpriced, people are going to go elsewhere. EC is a hidden gem and most of us like it like that! Hidden! It's boasts some of the lowest crime rates in SA, with WC some of the highest but evidently crime is not a major influence on where tourists go clearly. Not provincially and not nationally. Western Capes loss could be Eastern Cape's gain, and boy do we need gain!!

      Phiwe - 2011-07-22 17:08

      I dont expect my comments will be very popular, not because they lack in any real sense but because I dont scaremonger, like most do. And goodness forbid I point out the things one thinks are still true are actually not actually so...then I will get the mother of all bollockings. I know the pack mentality of the south african blogisphere, with only the minority with access to internet usgae or even computers. So I completely understand why any comments made to show a positve side of south africa, to show improvements where there are improvements will be slapped down and ridiculed, becuse the bulk of those with computers in SA are those who like nothing more than to scaremonger and paint a picture of SA as horrid and nigh on an exemplar of hell, simply because SA is ruled by the ANC. This is the truth, I think and I hope all of you will honest enough to admit so. Ciao!!

      G.du Plessis - 2011-07-22 17:22

      @Phiwe. I agree with everything you have said. I love the eastern cape personally. I think flights from Europe where most of our tourists come from, need to be increased and made cheaper. SA is too expensive to fly to!

      Phiwe - 2011-07-22 17:31

      one thing to help the EC economy and tourism is to make EC airports international airports, at least one, whether in East London or PE. Because currently, if I want to go to East London from oerseas I have to stop off in Jo'burg first. This would a little too troublesome for most tourists (business or otherwise) and will most likely not bother.

      G.du Plessis - 2011-07-22 17:49

      Yeah I agree. Like Durban is doing with the Comair Gatwick-London route. Let's do that with PE as it is well placed for tourists with garden route and Addo nearby. Doesn't need that ridiculous an upgrade to do 7 European flights a week. 3 to London, 2 to Paris and 2 to Germany. Government should subsidise flight costs as they would make it back in the extra tourists if it were cheaper. 1% tourism levy will generate even more than now. Cut airport taxes too!

      Phiwe - 2011-07-22 17:53

      I agree with you absolutely!! And you are breath of fresh air. Thank you!!

      TamaraSays - 2011-07-22 18:50

      Phiwe, I've 'done' the whole of the Eastern Cape by car, and staying in a tent. Spent time in PE, East London (my grandfather grew up in Amalinda when it was only farms, so it has special meaning for me), the Transkei, including stops in Umtata, and some time in Port St Johns, and a whole lot more. It really is a little piece of heaven, and I think that the notion of NOT focusing on tourism development there, in a big way, is very short sighted. Think about how many jobs could be created. Then again, even for agriculture, the Eastern Cape is amazing - I don't think I've ever seen a greener place. It could be doing so well. Maybe people should start trying to push for development there?

      Phiwe - 2011-07-22 19:05

      I agree Tamara and any one who has been to the East will know it has unspoilt beauty and will appreciate it that much more. And yes more development...I really would love to see a prosperous Eastern Cape. But can you do me a little favour and admit that your original comment was perhaps misguided and no more that baseless scaremongering? It would be make me ever so happy, to make someone say "I was wrong you were right"....I have wry smile just thinking about it. I wont hold my breath though

      TamaraSays - 2011-07-22 19:12

      Phiwe, my comment had to do with the other factors that hinder tourism, as well as other forms of development. As such, it was not wrong. I will however say that as much as I tend to look at the negative about South Africa a lot more (it's in our faces every day, and it's scary as hell), it's not all bad. The funny thing is, while I think our government is doing a terrible job, and leading us down a path that could lead to disaster, I have a lot of faith in the ordinary people in SA. I've met a lot of South Africans, across the colour and religion spectrums, that I am proud to call my friends. We just need to get rid of the bad apples.

      Phiwe - 2011-07-22 19:20

      The other factors you mentioned do not hinder tourism as I have proven already. It was an inaccurate thought. I disproved your original comment, at least admit that much is true!!

      Phiwe - 2011-07-22 19:23

      again I put to you, is all the perceived badness true or just perceived? Many tourists who say they came to say thinking they will see crime everywhere actually thought they were nervous for nothing. One famous tourist said something to this effect and that is Jeremy Clarkson on Jo'burg

      TamaraSays - 2011-07-22 19:40

      Phiwe, I will agree that there is a perception about SA out there that is incorrect - on many counts. However, I, as a white South African, have the same fear of that perception as I think many other people do. Until the cause of that perception is remedied, it's not just going to go away. It will continue to get worse. The more violence there is, the worse it is for our country. The more government chases away investors, whether it's through talk of nationalisation (whether from them or their Youth League) and the more they take companies like Walmart to court, the worse it is for everyone. I will agree on one thing: South Africa has the potential to be great. We are on the cusp of the decision that will determine where we go right now. I think the next five years will determine whether South Africa becomes a shining beacon to Africa, or another in a long line of problem states. Plus, my statement is based on a) the actual hatespeech coming from politicians, and b) internationally recognised Interpol figures. Can't really argue with those.

      Phiwe - 2011-07-22 20:12

      The perception is created by the media and is promulgated by people like you and others who are far more extreme than you. I think the condition in SA is no more than a perception, and often the truth is in conflict with the perception. I should mention that I in no way, by saying this, think SA is rosy; it isnt and we should strive to be better but surely not through cheap scaremonger tactics, which disappoitingly even the DA uses znd they are cashing in on that! It's easy to remedy perceptions, you just become unbiased and evenhanded and give credit for good things and not just be sour all the time. Of course you dont have to all the time, goodness knows to be that positive would too great a ask for some in South Africa. finally, I am not disputing the validity of the things oyu mentioned in your original post; we do have high crime and people like Malema are allowed to speak, unfortunately. But you specifically said or implied or suggested that those things you mentioned keep tourists from coming, which I have rebuked and shown you evidence for why I rebuked them. But I can appreciate that humility is a trait that is difficult to possess, not least when the person who asks you to get off a particular high horse is someone like me. You dont have to be proud all the time, you can be wrong and often you are (from what I have seen thus far).

      G.du Plessis - 2011-07-22 20:58

      Interesting debate. I am 50/50 on the Walmart thing - there should be conditions regarding SA produce for sure. Good to see there aren't the usual news24 lunatics hijacking this debate. On crime I feel safer than ever before and as a paramedic I would say I have seen that crime is down. I am often first on scene when there is violent crime...

      G.du Plessis - 2011-07-22 21:35

      @Phiwe. I feel similarly to you regarding how people talk SA down. One thing though about opposition parties - it is their job to find holes and nit-pick I think - they do this all over the world. A good opposition needs to be a thorn in the government's side, so that the government improve their performance. I wish we had a better opposition party, but I do not begrudge them their error finding responsibilities. Personally I have voted for both the main parties in the last three years, although I find fault with both of them.

      Phiwe - 2011-07-22 21:56

      @ g.du plesis - I agree, that is the job of the opposition and I can appreciate that they wont be inclined to give credit to government but rather focus on their misfortunes. That's how polittics works, I guess. But there a few countries in the world where politics is run on scaremongering, SA is one of them and USA when Obama was running. That's not right, because they almost sell perceptions which are not the truth. I just dont like scare mongering...the ANC does it too by telling impressionable and religious people that god loves the ANC and almost imply that any opposition to the ANC is equal to opposition to god.

      TamaraSays - 2011-07-22 22:17

      Phiwe - here is my original comment: "Perhaps all the hatespeech spewing from politicians is also contributing to international tourists choosing not to visit our shores? Or that we are the murder and rape capitals of the world? Just a thought." Note the 'also?' That's why I stand by the validity of the argument. The fact is, whether the media is involved (oh how we love to demonise reporters for reporting the news) or anyone else, this IS what the world thinks - even if you look at international sites. If we want to shake off the perception, we need to stop the root causes. You can't expect the world to ignore the bad, and focus only on the good afterall? I agree that we need to consider the good in South Africa too, but we can't on the other hand simply ignore the problems. Problems don't go away, just because you don't talk about them.

      TamaraSays - 2011-07-22 22:21

      Can you concede, Phiwe, since you value humility, that nitpicking about tourism in Cape Town, which you acknowledge is doing well, is an effort to shift focus off real issues? It just seems to me that the ANC has this burning desire to find fault with anything they can in the Western Cape - bicycle lanes, bus routes, and everything else. And yet it's consistently one of the highest rated municipalities in the country. I think that rankles, and that's why the ANC is doing exactly the same thing in the Cape that you accuse the DA of doing in the country. (FYI, again, not a DA member.)

      Phiwe - 2011-07-22 22:39

      Tamara, your questions were very loaded to be honest about that. And it implies a lot of things. And I put it to you, the world only thinks what it does because of the media, like I gave you the example of tourists who come to SA expecting to see horrors, some were advised to buy bullet proof vests and other protection before coming to SA for the cup by the media (in england, US) only to find that it's not as bad as they imagined and in England the media has had to swallow it's words. And that made me very happy. I'm not advocating that we forget or ignore our issues...no one is under any illusions that crime is unneccessarily high in South Africa nor am I saying that what the media publish is false BUT they paint a picture that worse than reality which again is promulgated by individuals. I've said I dont agree with COSATU comments, but they do make a valid point that WC could overprice itself out of contention. It's fair point. I wont speculate as to why they said it and why; it's possible that they are genuinely concerned, it's also possible that they are just saying this for the sake of saying it. But what they say, if you ignore who says and ignore which party they support, one would find the comments reasonable. And agree to shake off the perception we should take care of the issues. Taking care of the root causes of the spread of perceptions would mean taking care of the media which is wrong.

      Phiwe - 2011-07-22 22:53

      and also I dont think tourism is a non-issue, it's one of our most important sectors. And I dont see how raising concerns about tourism, detracting from real issues. An issue in tourism would be a real issue. But like I said, while WC is overpriced they will still continue t attract tourists. But the threat that tourists will wake up and realise WC is overpriced and that there are other beautiful places in South Africa is there...in which case the WC would lose out.

      whereu - 2011-07-23 12:37

      Evidence that I have is that the crime rate in SA is by far the biggest deterrent for overseas visitors. I have lived and worked in four countries for a large multinational company so have heard the opinion of hundreds of people over the last 15 years. If SA wants to increase tourism, then the crime rate needs to be addressed. I don't know how, all I know that it needs to be done.

  • saabnut - 2011-07-22 13:32

    Can't win at the ballot box, so now they try all the dirty tactics to discredit the only effective provincial government in the country.

      unproud Safrican@24.com - 2011-07-22 15:34

      Dirty, stinking ANC politics again.

      Eric West - 2011-07-22 18:33

      Tony is a poephol!

  • Andy - 2011-07-22 13:36

    Really? As someone who lives in the UK and visits yearly I find western cape prices very good, food and drink is far cheaper than the UK and so is accomodation? Of course if you stay in the 5 star establishments then things will be more expensive but thats just obvious. This Tony guy is a moron.

      BigD - 2011-07-22 13:54

      Well said.

      Rob Gunning - 2011-07-22 14:02

      Thanks Andy.

      TheSteve - 2011-07-22 14:08

      Agree Andy we went the Cape for a short holiday and the people, prices where spot on, of course places like the waterfront will be more expensive, but who wants to go only there. Stay in B&B and really enjoy SA Hospitality at really decent prices.

      Met - 2011-07-22 14:09

      I am certainly not a Cosatu sympathiser, but if you come to SA with pounds in the pocket, I am sure, anywhere in SA is cheap.Their approach is really just confirmation that victory at the ballot box, however unlikely, will not lead to new govt. Cosatu will simply make it ungovernable- a mockery of democracy

      Brad - 2011-07-22 14:34

      Andy, I dont think Western Cape is much cheaper than the Europe anymore. In fact, what you pay in South Africa in comparison to what you pay in Europe in general, you probably get better value for money in the Europe.

      scott - 2011-07-22 14:44

      yep,they are looking at the wrong picture here. Take golf for example, the tourists pay exorbitant prices for a visit and the locals pay the same price as visitors. Its hurting the local interest.

  • Gert Konsert - 2011-07-22 13:37

    O ya, I wonder if you are taking any additional holidays lately?? The resession hindered the holiday-makers(Tourists) to be a bit more conservative with the way they spend money. Sure the World is experiencing the same decline in tourism.

  • Gotterdammerung - 2011-07-22 13:40

    Whenever Tony Ehrenreich opens his trap you are sure to enjoy a world famous gaff.I surmise the reason he is now bleating about something else is that he and his cohorts who aren't on the inside track of the gravy train cannot afford all the plush imperialistic pleasures they used to. International visitors think everything in SA is cheap even when they are overcharged because in realtion to what is available to them in their countries it is cheap Now Tony, aren't you supposed to be doing something about the bicycle lanes??

      johan - 2011-07-22 14:40

      THIS TONY CHAPPIE IS BLEATING OUT OF A BROKEN HORN.

  • Steve Wonderboy - 2011-07-22 13:45

    As a local I totally agree with what COSATO are saying. Things were overpriced before the world cup, now its just getting ridiculous. The concept of value for money has flown over most people's heads.

      DeonL - 2011-07-22 14:00

      Shop around for better prices.

      Greybeard - 2011-07-22 14:03

      Been to Camps bay lately? Business if really tough for the hospitality industry worldwide right now, Businesses changing hands and failing everywhere.

      Together - 2011-07-22 14:28

      Go on Food24.com and see how many specials are offered at restaurants in Camps Bay, Hout Bay, the Waterfront. Or do a little Googling - like people do when they visit the UK. Maybe that's why UK tourists don't have such an expensive experience - they're used to travelling and doing a bit of research before they arrive.

  • Banana_Republic - 2011-07-22 13:48

    Tony, there is worldwide recession, tourism numbers have dropped considerably, not only in the Western Cape but throughout SA (notwithstanding Komrade Kortbroek's assertion that tourism numbers have increased). When SA Tourism spends as much marketing SA as a desitination in Angola as we do in Ital, you really expect that the "real" tourists are going to come our way. Your alliance partners have forced Eskom to up its rates, your singing and dancing members have forced up salaries (without any improvement in service levels and productivity); your police force has become so inept that the tourism industry has to fork out millions to secure their guests; your deployed cadres in ACSA have just upped their levies to cover the cost of their magnificent airports (full of crooked luggage handlers - all COSATU members). Hotels are closing because it has not become profitable to operate and have to charge these rates merely to keep afloat. COSATU is part of the problem and getting some inept delpoyed cadre with no clue about tourism but a strong interest in a fat salary will do nothing for the Western Cape tourism. Here in Mpumalanga our tourism authority (filled with connected cadres) has all but collapsed and even the power to their head office has been cut off.

      Rob Gunning - 2011-07-22 14:02

      Flippen good points.

      Julia - 2011-07-22 14:26

      well said

      pietie - 2011-07-22 14:53

      Please email this to the clot himself. Would love to see his response.

  • ilollipop - 2011-07-22 13:50

    Why is it that you still see elections posters for Tony still hanging? The election is long gone.

  • Sir Charles - 2011-07-22 13:51

    Visit S.A. every 6 months, cheapest vacations ever !!!

  • Anton - 2011-07-22 13:52

    The very last thing one needs, is the unions to start interfering. The problem is that the politicians already f..ked this industry up. The tourist industry is a business like any other . One first need a good product===we got Than one has to get the price right==a bit expensive, but should still be possible to sell. Make it easy availeble== its not ( airlines--visa's --packaged tours ) Advertise it ( promote the product ) == Hardly !! Sell it==Hardly!! Don't hold SWC===too much damage Stop talking untold lot of nonsence about the tourist business, starting with the Minister

  • Jubes - 2011-07-22 13:52

    Quality... pure quality. Tony Danza over here should spend his time trying to make the economy run rather than stifle it. Welcome to a capitalist society, it's how we roll - your communist ideology doesn't cut it here. It's like saying people should stop buying and selling homes in Sandton because they're too expensive. Willing buyer, willing seller. Welcome to 2011.

  • BigD - 2011-07-22 13:53

    Hey Tony you lost out in Cape Town. So stop trying to make trouble where none exists. They should check you out first.

  • DW - 2011-07-22 13:55

    I as a taxpayer feel ripped off for government paying people salaries who belong in jail, corruption, nepotism, tender fraud etc. Why dont they do something about that? But they HAVE to look for SOMETHING to criticise in the Western Cape, dont they? Log in eye and all that?

  • Deeteem - 2011-07-22 13:55

    Dear Tony, And this has got what to do with COSATU ? If the V&A is too expensive, go somewhere else !! Afrikaans box !!

  • DeonL - 2011-07-22 13:59

    Why fix something that is not broken? Rather ask the Government to fix public hospitals and the managers.

  • Andrez - 2011-07-22 14:00

    "giving the tourism industry R40m to spend on themselves". At least they were given the money and not stolen it. Point in case what about ESCOM ?

  • Richard - 2011-07-22 14:02

    No influence of the tri alliances here?????? No sir reeeeee

  • valleyman - 2011-07-22 14:06

    What amazes me is that Ehrenreich is allowed to open his mouth and say anything at all. As a staunch ANC and COSATU member he simply makes them all look foolish. But hey, given the general moronic level of discourse from these organisations, even Tony the dumb, doesn't seem so bad. Doesn't do tourism much good though, especially if potential visitors think that he's the best that we can offer...

      allie - 2011-07-22 14:20

      Now can you see Tony?Nobody likes you.You`r a commie.AH

      DW - 2011-07-22 15:00

      And they wonder why they lost in the Cape. Is this the best they could put forward? He talks here as if he is representing Cosatu, but he is actually promoting the ANC viewpoint - but of course as long as the Cosatu members pay their fees he has to look like he is actually doing something for his salary, doesnt he?

  • James - 2011-07-22 14:08

    Hey Tony, I know this goes a bit against your Marxist leaning but why don't you get some of your cronies in the upper echelons together and open a new hotel thats really cheap and then you can show us all how it's done. Of course we all know that would never happen because that would mean you would have to put your money where your mouth is!

      R.Suppards - 2011-07-22 17:26

      Now,Now, James don't mock the afflicted. A Wekker's hotel, funded, built and operated by Marxists would fail, and then it would have to be nationaised so that the Comrades could recoup their investment at our expense. If Marxists had any business accumen, the Robben Island Ferry would have succeeded.

  • Richie - 2011-07-22 14:12

    Agreed for once!

  • Ollie - 2011-07-22 14:12

    LOL - the reason tourists don't want to come here - Cosatu strikes lead to violence plus where can they go if we run out of petrol or have blackouts. HIGH CRIME is one of the biggest draw backs. Leave the well run Cape Town alone

  • Candice Gardner - 2011-07-22 14:13

    Crayfish is the problem... Really??!??!! Is this guy for real? Who is this Tjop anyway? Good grief, what next? 'The problem with Gauteng Tourism is the Summer rains?'.... The crises in SOUTH AFRICAN tourism, is C.R.I.M.E. Everything is always going to be 'expensive' it's just the way it goes. Obvously tour operators are going to sell you a holiday package where they and the establishment make the most profit, so shop around yourself and you'll see how affordable CT cvan really be. And have you noticed where the V&A Waterfront is situated??? Prime property.... do the math...

  • Sir Eidolon - 2011-07-22 14:13

    AHhahaaaaa!! What a clown! It's bizarre that all these international tourists just keep on coming back. Give someone else a turn at the mike, Tony.

  • pietie - 2011-07-22 14:15

    Tony you must come fetch your sister, she's lying here under my bed!

  • robhth - 2011-07-22 14:15

    Bread prices up... .okay, lets talk. Electricity - yes, it affects the poor too.... but Crayfish and red wine in a restaurant? It's like saying Ferrari prices in the Cape must be looked at because they are too expensive? Solve problems - don't invent them....

  • M - 2011-07-22 14:20

    We visited Cape Town for the first time in April this year. For heaven's sake, the Waterfront is a tourist destination!! I did not find the curios etc any more expensive than anywhere else in the country. Yes, the designer shops were way out of our league but hey they are in Johannesburg as well and hence I don't shop at such places. Our trip up table mountain was R580.00 for the 4 of us, no more expensive than entry into say Gold Reef City. Yet, when we went into the local Spar in Glencairn, away from the tourist hubs, food was way cheaper than Johannesburg. Tourist attractions charge tourist prices. If the locals don't want to pay tourist prices they must stay away from the tourist places. After all, they live there, they are not tourists in their own city.

  • Neutedop - 2011-07-22 14:21

    For once, I agree with Cosatu. People gets ripped off here, and the local middle class can not afford anything. But this is a once off agree!!!!

  • Georgie Porgie - 2011-07-22 14:23

    You've got to give our friend Tony a pat on the back for finally learning from, Allan Boesak, Tony Yengeni, Trevor Manual,(new surname now automatic,) Tokeyo Sexkwale,and all the others too many to mention, realizing that there's more money to be made in government. The lad finaly woke up to smell the coffee. He's looking at how "Mal emmer" is going places with nice watches and cars and houses etc.. he was feeling a bit left out, in the cold, stuck with mr Vavi in cosatu. Ths so called previous disadvantaged the now current advantaged have come into a tidy some in a rather short time might I say.

  • VELOCITY - 2011-07-22 14:23

    Yes, let's get organized civil terrorism and industrial blackmail (unions) involved with tourism and stuff that up too. While we at it, let's change the name of South Africa to FUBAR!

  • Nick Ridout - 2011-07-22 14:24

    Wow, this is so cool, I can buy seafood in the centre of London for less than I pay in Cape Town.

  • RQd2 - 2011-07-22 14:24

    Reckon it's indicative of the straws the alliance are grasping at... "Everything in the Cape works, well hell, lets complain about crayfish prices."

  • Ryan Tunney - 2011-07-22 14:26

    Ha ha ha...surprise surprise! It's coming from Tony Ehrenreich the ANC cadre.

  • Terence - 2011-07-22 14:33

    Didn`t the outgoing ANC Government in the W. Cape promise to make the Western Province ungovernable when the DA took over? Obviously COSATU can assist by trying to fix something that is fundamentally not broken. Although as a local I find the fact that the wine prices at the V & A are more expensive than Covent Garden in London pretty obnoxious.

  • AndV - 2011-07-22 14:35

    Forget about COSATU. They have a point. I and many of my friends have stopped holidaying in the Cape the past years, simply because as a visitor/tourist you are ripped-off everywhere. The value for money ratio is shocking - "take it or leave it". It looks as if the market is busy to adress this problem now. Great news!

  • Mlu - 2011-07-22 14:37

    Is it sour grapes for Tony? Crayfish and wines anyway are never for trade unionists but for the rich and wealthy, like Juju and Sushi-king, Kunene. If you cannot afford them, dont think everyone can't. Please put your nose where it matters. Tourism is way beyond your depth.

  • Gert Konsert - 2011-07-22 14:40

    Rest of South Africa: Tony Ehrenreich in Crisis

  • Werner vd Merwe - 2011-07-22 14:45

    Maybe Tony is just peed off because the masses cant get everything for free in the Cape.

  • Brett Scheepers - 2011-07-22 14:46

    This so true my wife and i wanted to book a 4 week holiday in SA.I just decided to go through a agent as it was easiest,got a quote for R88k for what we wanted to do. That shocked me so i did it online myself and price came down to R33k. SA used to be a cheap destination but that is not true anymore.There are many other destinations out there now that can work out the same.

  • FB1 - 2011-07-22 14:46

    Are we talking about the price of wine on a farm or a restaurant. As a matter of fact the Goverment gets more for a bottle of wine from tax than the farmer get's for the grapes that go into the bottle. It might be a good idea to look into the way restaurants charge winefarms to have their wine on a winelist and then mark it up 300%

  • Werner vd Merwe - 2011-07-22 14:48

    Dear Tony - this is not the Third Reich - here we pay for what we want - nothing for mahala so, if you cant afford it dont go there. In any event,please go and take a long walk off a short pier.

  • Coin - 2011-07-22 14:49

    Why doesn't COSATU rather focus on tourists being attacked at Luxury Game Resorts in the Northern territory? In fact, why doesn't COSATU give South Africa and the tourism industry an update on the murder case of the previous sales manager at Sun City, who was murdered in her bedroom a day before a major international FIFA gathering. How many tourists didn't feel ripped off by that, after having already booked a luxury suite at the Palace of the Lost City?

  • Jay Johnson - 2011-07-22 14:49

    Whenever I read a headline having Cosatu and Western Cape in it, I should also expect to see the name of the most useless, annoying political chihuahua to have ever slithered from under a rock. He is more annoying than people who watch tv shows in advance and then tell other people what will happen in the show in order to feel clever. He is more annoying than people who park you in. He is far more annoying than people whose cell phones ring loudly during movies. But more than that, he is also utterly useless. He is more useless than a screw driver without any handle, more useless than a car without wheels and a steering wheel, and far more useless than an Boeing jet without any wings. He is also ineffective. I guess Tony Ehrenreich just gives me a massive cramp in my posterior.

  • Tassenberg - 2011-07-22 14:52

    Even local tourism is down, all over the country. Things are getting more expensive due to uneducated workers, which might be skilled but doesn't have an education demanding higher salaries in industries mostly critical to production etc. O sorry wrong story same BS, I think Tony is right we as South-Africans should be able to afford the wine from the Cape and the crayfish, nationalize the whole industry as these capitalists are raping the country. I'm confused maybe it's the unions and an inept government that is raping this country and causing most of the problems. Maybe it is some motor mouth shouting things such as “bloody agent”, “imperialist b@stard” or my personal “favorite” “all whites are criminals”. In the end there is only one piece of advice “Wear sunscreen”.

  • call a spade - 2011-07-22 14:55

    people with money dont go to cheap places. people without money dont go to expensive places.its like that the world over. so what is the issue here?

  • DW - 2011-07-22 14:57

    "We will further call for an independent body to examine the crisis, as the industrial players have been colluding with government at a local level." In other words, we will appoint another ANC committee to sit and talk about nothing, as long as we are able to show that we are pointing a finger at DA. Trouble is, they wont be able to afford the crayfish so they will have to have KFC - Tony's budget doesnt allow for that - and that is what he is really bitching about.

  • Virginia - 2011-07-22 15:03

    That is the only thing COSATU is worried about, not enought"black" workers in Tourism department. COSATU start making you people behave then maybe we will have more tourists to this country, the murder and rape fiqures are far to high

  • John Vanneden - 2011-07-22 15:34

    @ Virginia ... try not comment on finances and stick to fashion maybe. S.A. in general is extremely overpriced. Cost of living in C.T. is not that much less than London even. I know of a significant amount of things that are more expensive in S.A. than in Europe. Where Europeans will gasp in shock as i did when i visited recently. I work in finance, and these are facts. Hard to go into too much detail here.

  • happy_queer - 2011-07-22 16:04

    As an expat working in Ldn earning very good money I totally agree - SA is pricing itself out of the tourism industry...it is pathetic really... PEOLE - let it be - the only way these idiots will learn is when they have to put the "For Sale" bord up in the window...

  • zule - 2011-07-22 16:20

    Tony E is correct...EVERY SINGLE PLACE IN THE WESTERN CAPE OVERCHARGE FOR THEIR GOODS AND SERVICES...everybody feels ripped off by these GREEDY takes...we should all go out on strike against them