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Cosatu march gets going in Joburg

2012-03-07 11:10

Johannesburg - Cosatu supporters protesting against the e-tolling system and labour brokers started marching from Beyers Naude Square in Johannesburg at around 10:00 on Wednesday.

Marshals were controlling the crowd, which had almost filled the square, while more protesters joined the throngs by the busload and on foot.

Protesters were converging on the square from all directions.

Earlier Aggie Semenya, who works for Joburg Water, said electronic tolling would eat into her already tight finances.

"I am striking to stop toll roads because I spend a lot already on transport and this is going to get worse. I travel from Soweto to Sandton every day."

Vivian Buso said she was joining the nationwide strike because she wanted a full time job.

Fellow protester Justice Moloto said: "I want a full-time job, that’s why I am supporting this protest. For 13 years I have worked for the post office, but because I was employed by a labour broker I stayed temporary, earning R2 000 a month.

"I should be permanent, earning R8 000 a month. Labour brokers must go."

Obed Aphanye said he was worried about how e-tolling would affect his livelihood.
"I am here over the [toll] gates.

"As a driver I can see what these tolls are going to do to businesses and ordinary people. They cannot be allowed."

Comments
  • Monique - 2012-03-07 11:16

    VIVA!!!

  • Typersa - 2012-03-07 11:20

    The only problem with getting rid of labour brokers is.... The company that used to make use of the labourers supplied by the labour brokers will simply get guys off the streets to do the job. Nothing will be accomplished by getting rid of labour brokers, this will only make the situation worse. I know this as I have heard it from many comapnies making use of labour brokers.

      Bongani - 2012-03-07 11:34

      you have no idea how labour brokers work. They work more like agents in sport, they take a certain percentage of your income for life. Yes they make life easier for employers, but they make life hell for employees

      Maarten - 2012-03-07 11:43

      @Typersa, There is a significant flaw in your logic. I have used Artisans through a Labour Broker. I pay the Broker R175ph per artisan, they pay the Artisan R90ph. Where does the R85ph go? There is nothing fair about that! So I agree with Cosatu in this.

      Typersa - 2012-03-07 11:46

      You guys are not understanding whatI am saying. Open your eyes and read again. This will negatively affect the guys that are currently employed through a labour broker. They will not be used by that specific company anymore and the company will get "cheap labour" off the streets. I am not saying its good to work through labour brokers, but to get rid of them completely will not solve this problem, it might cause more issues for the person seeking employment.

      Lwazi - 2012-03-07 12:13

      @Typersa, you sound like one of the labour "brokers". Now listen, getting rid of labour brokers means the employer is going to continue paying the same amount but now all of it to the employee. No middle man...get it?

      Pharaoh Malope - 2012-03-07 12:20

      Typersa there's provision in LRA that companies can not keep workers as temps by constantly renewing their contracts. They can do that only for maximum specified times. The reason behind this regulation is that by renewing temp contracts exceeding the max reasonable times employer demonstrate the need for service provided by the employee. Unless it in case where renewal involves assuming a new project with well defined completion stage. Do away with labour brokers and enforce and monitor company compliance with regard to LRA problem solved!

      Christian J Denyschen - 2012-03-07 12:28

      @typersa i agree don't take them away rather set laws in place to control it. secondly when you employ someone thru a labour broker you are assured that the worker is qualified 2 do his/her job, that is why you pay the broker extra and off course saves you time and money looking for the right candidate for the job. wake up people the real issue here is the etoll shame on you vavi for using the etoll as an excuse 2 get rid of labour brokers.

      Typersa - 2012-03-07 13:19

      @Lwazi - And you sound like one of those that a labour broker got work for? We will see what is going to happen once the labour brokers have been banned. They will hire people, pay them peanuts and then once their contract is over they will employ someone else. You guys are just looking at this from one point of view again. Do you honestly think a company will not try and save money where it can? This whole issue should be taken up with the contracts that employers set in place with employees, not to get rid of labour brokers. You go and ask yorself. Why do so many job seekers join labour brokers? Because they get jobs for you. You will be back at square one looking for your own job and competing with the "other" guy on the street that is willing to do your job for half of what you are looking for. But yeah, lets see how this one works out for you. And for your information, I have nothing to do with labour brokers, I just know that any company will do whatever it can to save money, leaving you without a job

  • nkosiab - 2012-03-07 11:21

    ya nne

  • Gideon - 2012-03-07 11:23

    BREAKING NEWS: KONY 2012: A quest for justice via social media- http://memeburn.com/2012/03/kony-2012-a-quest-for-justice-via-social-media/

  • Hugh - 2012-03-07 11:25

    I have been more than happy to take one two week and one month contracts in light of the fact that I am unable to get work because of EE. It helps pay the bills and keeps my hand in.

  • jonathan.dutoit2 - 2012-03-07 11:32

    yes, and everything will go up because of these tolls. food, petrol, everything that goes through joburg, because the the transport companies will also have to pay toll

  • Ashwin - 2012-03-07 11:35

    "Fellow protester Justice Moloto said: "I want a full-time job, that’s why I am supporting this protest. For 13 years I have worked for the post office, but because I was employed by a labour broker I stayed temporary, earning R2 000 a month." It seems to me that the real culprit here is the post office. I find it hard to believe that a labour broker has charged the post office for 13 years or that the labour broker has been paying this individual, out of their payroll, for 13 years. Post office = government controlled = abuse. Also, when this person was interviewed for the job, he/she knew what the salary was. I am sure there was much celebration at that time. Who dia this person thank? Not Cosatu, for sure. IT WAS THE BROKER who got him/ her the job. This strike is misguided. Cosatu can only claim big numbers but can they show stats on protestors against labour brokers and against tolling?

      Bongani - 2012-03-07 11:55

      Post office is paying the labour broker, because Justice Moloto in this case does not have any say when it comes to his salary. Post office is paying labour broker directly and labour broker pays the employee. As for TYPERSA you dont understand. The reason companies are using labour brokers it is their way of trying not to pay employees, things like bonuses, uif, life covers, medical aid and any other benefits. its like you saying its better to be raped as long as you get paid for it.

  • pdilapiso - 2012-03-07 11:39

    @ Boer..why r u supporting this 1? you ve always been negative about everything blacks do? what is your motive??? Why change of heart???

      DuToitCoetzee - 2012-03-07 11:47

      Maybe you want to see it wrong all along. Just maybe he supported, and now again, in what he believe is correct and not like you using colour to fill for your lack of logic and vision.

      Ashwin - 2012-03-07 11:59

      the toll issue is not only a black issue. It affects all of us as South African.

      Nick - 2012-03-07 12:09

      box ....because this affects everyone all my service providers have already indicated huge increases which they will pass onto me and i will then be forced to pass that onto my clients you are getting a snowball effect and with petrol/diesel at record highs basic foods mielie meel , bread will also increase by 10-15% atleast

      pdilapiso - 2012-03-07 13:56

      @dutiot...what good you did for this country!!You destroyed the humanity & dignity of our people in their native land. why don’t you support Nationalization of mines, because e-toll will benefit majority of whites!!! dutiot be intelligent enough to see within yourself...unfortunately you will not see the truth but the good of what will benefit you & your people! That is why the Sunset Clause will be scraped!

  • kgomotso.radise - 2012-03-07 11:42

    Why is COSATU killing two birds with one stone will the government comprehend both messages of the strike?

      Marion - 2012-03-07 12:03

      I agree with the Cosatu march. What I don't agree with is that JuJu has been given another platform to make him look ever-so important. ANCYL couldn't even get more than 5000 to join their march for economic freedom now they are given a platform to speak to a much larger group. Talk about hijacking with the blessing of the car owner.

      Zwelakhe - 2012-03-07 12:11

      They understand that we can't afford a no work no pay for 2 days marching

      Marion - 2012-03-07 12:30

      Hopefully the government can read - posters for both causes.

  • Ashwin - 2012-03-07 11:53

    Government has a large number of vacant posts within departments around the country. Cosatu should insist that Government fill these role. Strike on that Cosatu. Government has a temporary workers, like Justice Moloto. How many people employed for the Consenus have been permenantly employed?

  • Brad.Kopping - 2012-03-07 12:05

    STOP KONY! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y4MnpzG5Sqc&feature=g-all&context=G2791735FAAAAAAAABAA

  • Elaine - 2012-03-07 12:07

    i fully support this strike. Increase in petrol prices, increase in food, then still toll fees?? this creates more poverty. Prices in food stores i notice seem to be raised on almost a weekly basis. Its all money , money money, suck us dry, and yet be have to tolerate potholes and robots forever our of order.WHERE IS THE SERVICE DELIVERY , Government must deliver, then we might consider it a fair deal !!! pay.

  • Lwazi - 2012-03-07 12:17

    VIVA VAVI VIVA!!!

  • logical007 - 2012-03-07 12:18

    What is the difference between a labour broker and an employment agency dealing in part time staff? Employment agency also take a high percentage of wage meant for employee. Quote from above : I "want" a full time job??? Guess what... full time jobs are not that easy to come by... so rather get what you can or would you prefer to strike against what you ARE GETTING (R2000) and take home NOTHING???? Change the labour laws and create more opportunities and jobs!

      Marion - 2012-03-07 12:31

      @logical007 - even my domestic worker earns more than R2000 per month.

      logical007 - 2012-03-07 13:04

      @ MArion Read what I said .... NO where did I say R2000 was a good salary - but its better than nothing??? What I said was don't strike against a company getting you work part time when you have nothing better lined up. Cosatu certainly has no work for the masses of unemployed. Cosatu and the labour laws are not making FOR employment but rather the opposite - increasing unemployment. Until labour laws are change unemployment rate will continue to increase

  • Cameronl - 2012-03-07 12:21

    simple solution....... seeing as there are sooooo many people desperately looking for jobs in South Africa, I say FIRE the lot of those striking losers! and create space for people out there who actually APPRECIATE having a job!

      Pharaoh Malope - 2012-03-07 12:26

      I doubt you are in position of power at work if employed. Management is not your thing, sorry! And if you are employed as manager at any level you are costing your employer a lot because of your volatile guerrilla style of decision taking!

      Melusi Myaluza - 2012-03-07 13:17

      @cameronl,are u a comedian?

      margaret.ndawonde1 - 2012-03-07 16:16

      yo yo yo yo Cameron!

  • Shellerjc - 2012-03-07 12:28

    For once I actually agree with a strike

  • Shellerjc - 2012-03-07 12:29

    However - Please educate me - What has the Strikign for a job got to do with striking for e-tolling? Two different topics?

  • Nick - 2012-03-07 12:42

    haha funny cause i mention government using labour brokers to fill positions actoss the country in gov dept,municipalities etc COMMENT GETS DELETED

  • Pharaoh Malope - 2012-03-07 12:50

    E-tolling, Labour Brokers two different agenda, fully agree. Then what's the problem? Is there no logic in engaging in multi-demands protest? I thought we have been doing so with Unionized wage raise negotiation. Why separate the two if we can send a clear message to the government in a single strike? There's less temporary negative impact on workers in terms of salary foregone by doing things this way.

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