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Crowds gather for Terre'Blanche judgment

2012-05-22 09:53

Ventersdorp - Rightwingers and curious onlookers have gathered outside the High Court sitting in Ventersdorp on Tuesday, awaiting to hear the fate of Eugene Terre'Blanche's two murder-accused.

Members of the Afrikaaner Weerstandsbeweeging (AWB) stood opposite the court, clad in camouflage uniforms and sporting flags and banners in support of Terre'Blanche.

Some of the banners read: "AWB stood the test of time" and "Long live the AWB".

On another corner, members of the rightwing Gelofte Volk, an AWB splinter group, were also gathered in support of Terre'Blanche.

Leader Andre Visagie said he had mixed feelings about what to expect.

Not optimistic

"We are not really very optimistic that justice will be done."

Police and police vans lined the streets surrounding the court. Heavily armed officers stopped family members and media from entering the court until the last possible minute.

Members of the community were also gathered outside the court. Everyone was warmly dressed to fight off the winter cold which has taken hold of the North West town.

Judgment on the two accused, Chris Mahlangu and a youth, was expected to start at 09:00.

The pair are charged with beating Terre'Blanche to death in his farmhouse outside Ventersdorp on 3 April 2010.

Both have pleaded not guilty to murder, housebreaking, and robbery with aggravating circumstances. Mahlangu has claimed he acted in self-defence. The teenager has denied involvement in the crime.

Long judgment

Mahlangu and the youth declined to testify and, in April, the trial was postponed for judgment.

"It is probably going to be a long judgment. So prepare yourselves for a long judgment," Judge John Horn told the State and the defence.

The youth turned 18 shortly after the proceedings were postponed.

On Monday, North West police said it was prepared for large crowds which might gather outside the court.

"Based on previous confrontations between the two groups outside the court, police are expecting even worse situations than the previous ones and are up to the task," Brigadier Thulane Ngubane said.

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Comments
  • kabelo.leballo - 2012-05-22 09:55

    About time... this has been dragging for too long now!

      clinton.badenhorst - 2012-05-22 10:12

      I would not want to be in that youth accused shoes. If he is acquitted of the charges, the right wingers are going to murder him when he is set free.

      Bob - 2012-05-22 10:14

      Poloy, you frikken creep, the only chance these murderers have is if they are taxi drivers, if they are then they enjoy diplomatic rights in SA and can walk free.

      Lucy - 2012-05-22 10:30

      THE WHOLE COUNTRY IS DRAGGING - RIGHT DOWN TO THE GROUND!!!!

      Herman - 2012-05-22 10:52

      @pythagoras - I agree, set the free so the Boere caqn hunt them like animals!

      siyadyosiba - 2012-05-22 11:08

      @pythagoras, your theorems aren't tested and trusted, are they? do you think that would the good thing to happen. you don't want thi country to get into racial war as incited by Visagie in his statement "for every white person that dies, kill 30 blacks". You tell me you wouldn't anticipate that much if these guys would be killed by AWB. @Herman, same as above.

      siyadyosiba - 2012-05-22 11:25

      @pythagoras, another confirmation that your mind is truly devoid of realistic deductions and you probably thinking its pre 1994. do you know "an ant against the elephant" war? thats what you wish for. please wake up.

      siyadyosiba - 2012-05-22 11:56

      @frank, firstly, i dont like to respond to people who cannot put across their point without insulting or swearing at the other party. if you want to be treated like an adult, behave like one. there's no need to include "fool" in your statement, control your outburst towards others, this is a public forum not your house. @pythagoras, i don't think the racial war will assist in anyway. you must understand that the international community has not condenmed our government for genocide and this country is actually regarded as the most progressive and democratically fair. so, to me, it doesn't make sense to conclude there is genocide against white people becasue of crimes happening in farms especially that most SA citizens, including myself, condenm it. Lastly, you amongst the few whites that would follow that ridiculous suicidal waging of war against blacks. Crimes are committed everywhere, if you want to racialise them, its your own problem.

      siyadyosiba - 2012-05-22 12:48

      @frank, i did not deflect. i just ignored your comment. i learnt that "its not wise to fight a pig in stinky mud because by the time you realise you are getting dirty, you will also realise that the pig is actually enjoying the mud and the stink", hence i ignored your comment.

  • Sechaba30 - 2012-05-22 09:58

    RIP Terreblanche, even though you hated a black person I forgive you. Its our culture to forgive and forget.

      phathuchicos - 2012-05-22 10:05

      good for you...i didnt coz the same bloody AWB he created is still active and promoting the same idiologies.

      Nigel - 2012-05-22 10:14

      A man was murdered and I hope the perps rot in jail. No excuse for murder. The 'politics' is irrelevant.

      Peter - 2012-05-22 10:26

      Nonsense! Speak for yourself. For someone who was a blatant racist, treated blacks as objects, invented creatures like Andre Visagie, I wouldn't dare forgive such an animal. Justice should prevail today but his death was not regrettable to me.

      Andries - 2012-05-22 10:32

      PETER AND AZANIAN answer me. who are to blame for this situation SOUTH AFRICA is in today? ET or people with the mentality like you?

      phathuchicos - 2012-05-22 10:38

      Christopher...who are to blame? Obvious your ancestors who couldn't accept our acnestors as human beings and not to forget you for resisting change and carrying the same metality as your look-alike fossils.

      Daniel - 2012-05-22 10:40

      Whatever douchebag! That's your biggest problem!!

      Peter - 2012-05-22 10:48

      @The-Azanian + @Peter - He who is without sin cast the first stone. Think about it you don't have to be religious to understand the meaning behind it

      John - 2012-05-22 10:52

      Sechaba30, The-Azanian and Peter are the three biggest racists on news24.

      phathuchicos - 2012-05-22 10:58

      what are you john to know the meaning of racist...? a saint maybe or a bored troll.

      helena.vanzyl2 - 2012-05-22 12:53

      Sechaba, you talk sense. SA can not afford a civil war!!! We are sure pose to be the beacon of hope in Africa. Various people white and black has made very irresponsible decisions recently.

  • Christopher - 2012-05-22 10:03

    I am glad the court house is not the same court house where the anc is toy toying, they might get confused and think that the AWB is there for them. It would be exciting though.

      phathuchicos - 2012-05-22 10:08

      boy or boy...i just wish the two groups could meet one day...that day i will buy the whole supply of Ster-kinekor popcorns and butter...

      Christopher - 2012-05-22 10:14

      Hahaha...one will have stones and one will have R4 rifles!!

      Felix - 2012-05-22 10:26

      Damn, I had to delete my above reply because this was exactly what I was thinking.

      Christopher - 2012-05-22 10:32

      Geezz, they probably better equiped and highly more trained than our saps and defence force put together.

      Andries - 2012-05-22 10:37

      wow AZANIAN still believe we come from Rhodesia, Boytjie we did not leave the SADF for green pastures in Australia.

      Nigel - 2012-05-22 10:37

      @ the Azanian - you should be exiled to Zimbabwe so you can see what a country looks like after colonials and Boere have been forced to leave. Idiot racist.

      phathuchicos - 2012-05-22 10:47

      ha ha ha...then leave and come back after 30 years when the same black people who till the soil and seed the plants in your farm while you go gaming have perished from the theoritical hunger you are projecting.

      phathuchicos - 2012-05-22 10:51

      @Andries...looks like you are still going to migrate from Australia ti DRC maybe since the Chinese are busy buying the whole country...and I can't bear the look on your face in news when you are waking up in the englishman terriotory...lolest. English tea for you sir...I'm afraid we dont know what boerewors is.

      John - 2012-05-22 10:54

      The-Azanian = RACIST OF NOTE!

      Stille - 2012-05-22 10:54

      @apanian - remember tatane - sticks and stones may break your head but a rubber bullet in yo face will kill you...hahahahaha

      phathuchicos - 2012-05-22 11:00

      ha ha ha...still where are you from? Orania.

      Nigel - 2012-05-22 11:01

      @ Azanian - rather stick to your 'popcorns and butter', you're actually too stupid to even be a racist. Lights on, sort of dim, but definitely no one home.

      siyadyosiba - 2012-05-22 13:30

      @jouma, you should be very happy that you are in a black man's land and still allowed to have a claim in the land and talk rubbish when you like to. You are very lucky my boy.

      JouMa - 2012-05-22 13:43

      @siya my laaitie you are the one that is very lucky to be allowed freedom to do and say what you please just remember it was the white people the same white people you celebrate when killed not the white government that voted an end to apartheid

  • Iare - 2012-05-22 10:07

    so why has news 24 decided to block this video for people outside SA? Can watch all the other vids but not this one!!!???? :S

  • Ted - 2012-05-22 10:15

    The heading should read 'Clowns gather ....'

      Nigel - 2012-05-22 10:26

      No. 'Clowns' was allocated to ANC supporters year ago. You can't use that one.

      siyadyosiba - 2012-05-22 11:15

      @mathata, please dude, my stomach is aching from laughing. LOLEST

  • gareth.jones.7771 - 2012-05-22 10:25

    This can only go poorly, no matter what the result.

  • denise.delport - 2012-05-22 10:34

    E.T. het vir ons volk op gestaan en deur dit is sy lewe verkort. Maar die Vader slaap nie en Hy sal na Sy volk kyk!! 0 0 Reply to denise.delport | 0 comments (hide) | Delete

      phathuchicos - 2012-05-22 10:40

      definately not good at copying and paste...lol

      Sematla - 2012-05-22 10:45

      And the worst of it, the blunder is written in alien ge-ge-ge-ge-geg, se moer.

      phathuchicos - 2012-05-22 10:54

      lolest...sir is it wallonian or flemish?

      Nigel - 2012-05-22 11:07

      Azanian + Mathata = let's see, oh, still a single figure IQ. No surprise. Sorry, sad, brainless and insignificant. Shame.

      siyadyosiba - 2012-05-22 11:17

      azania and mathata = president and deputy HAHAHAHAHAHA. you guys rock.

      neels.swart.7 - 2012-05-22 11:22

      Siyadyomasipa : Umngundwako

      siyadyosiba - 2012-05-22 11:35

      @neels, HAHAHAHAHA the comedy continues.....do you know what you are saying? HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

      Harry - 2012-05-22 12:17

      Indeed, our Father in Heaven does not sleep and His justice will come over this nation much sooner than expected. The days of the coward murderers have already been counted...

      phathuchicos - 2012-05-22 12:23

      oh harry...please. So justice only comes when you guys are hurt but it never landed some of boere soldiers shot down Soweto school kids. Infact you guys deserve everything happening now and much worse to come if you dont drop that mentality.

      blipsie - 2012-05-22 12:26

      @The-Azanian + @Siyadsiyosiba (or whatever) Like us horrid old Afrikaners say: Julle slaan nou rerig swart mense se naam met n plank hier. You're public behavior is really lacking and I'm sure most educated and well mannered black people feels ashamed at the way you two are going on like the obvious village idiots you are. You obviously have no respect for death or human life so what else could one expect. But can you not have at least a bit of respect for your tribe and neighbouring tribes and shut up and spare them the shame?

      siyadyosiba - 2012-05-22 12:59

      @blipsie, in my culture a woman does not talk like that to a man. i know that you are uncultured and were not raised properly, so i forgive you. here we are talking about ET, racist bastard who hated blacks and their guts like nobody's busniess. I wont feel pity for him, in fact its good riddance that he is no more. I am not apologetic about that. Its the same thing when a crimnal has been shot, you would say "well done police, we do not need these monsters in our society". should that change with ET. our society does not need him. so meisie stop your biasness, whats good for the goose is good for the gander.

      blipsie - 2012-05-22 13:16

      @ Sayafoefiewhatever. In my culture a woman also does not speak to a man like that. If I considered you a man I would have used respect. You are demanding respect based on your gender? Are you serious? How about earning your respect based on your behavior? I dont like the racist things Malema says, but if he ended up with a Panga in his chest, and people get caught, well then they have to go to prison. This is not about anything other than what the whole justice system is about. That Mr. Non man is what civilisation is all about. Your idea of justice is more applicable to a barn yard. Your reasoning is also illogical and really not even worthy of much thought.

      JouMa - 2012-05-22 13:23

      azanian stop the threats and start acting im waiting did it before will do it again

      siyadyosiba - 2012-05-22 13:39

      @bliksie..bliksemwhatever, comparing malema to tereblanch show how your mind operates, shortcircuited and racially blind, malema never said in public broadcaster holding his gun, "blacks are inferior and will never have a standing as normal people in this country," Malema never declared racial war against white people. Now the AWB Visagie said in public "kill 30 blacks for every white man that dies". Do you expect me to say "uhh shame" when that retard dies? Sorry I wont. We do not need them in our society.

      JouMa - 2012-05-22 13:47

      @siya yet again you want to bring that alleged culture up that died centuries ago and only certain customs ie what zuma gets up to and whichever else you fancy will still be used today black men treat woman as meat and objects i see it every month as soon as they get paid its to the cbd for beer and some.. rape also incredibly high and acceptable

      blipsie - 2012-05-22 14:01

      @ siyafoefie (like bliksempie name, cute!) Here's the difference between you and I. You're idea of justice is rather a bit middle ages and all that. Mine is more civilised. Ok, so E.T talked racism and Malema talks racism (I'm sorry I take offense to someone singing a happy song about wanting to kill me) Yebo, E.T beat up a black man and hey pesto, JUSTICE WAS DONE AND HE WENT TO PRISON. Thats the point here. You cannot kill someone and walk away because that person said something you didnt like. Your argument is so lame, if it were a horse it would be shot.

  • monkinsane - 2012-05-22 10:42

    A murderer is a murderer, and deserves the death penalty, oh wait we don't have that anymore - no wonder crime is so out of control.

  • James - 2012-05-22 10:51

    Murder is murder, no matter what the colour or the beliefs, it could have been your father, brother or family member....

      karen.jansevanrensburg - 2012-05-22 11:12

      Yes murder is murder and he was someone's father, brother, son and husband. Justice must be done. A crime is a crime and punishment must be served.

      John - 2012-05-22 11:34

      siyadyosiba = Racist PIG!

      karen.jansevanrensburg - 2012-05-22 11:42

      There is a God and everyone will be punished might not be here but when u get to the gates and he does not want your sorry ass you will beg for forgiveness so siya pls he would not want you as his son either after all that he has been thru he looked after his workers when he came out of jail but when u gready and stupid then you must learn the hard way. I pray the get the punishment needed for the crime the committed just like any other person who think crime is unpunished.

      siyadyosiba - 2012-05-22 12:01

      @john, if i am racist by disliking ET, well call me that. I dislike the fellow and many know why. one thing i know is that, i dont hate any white person in this forum unless ofcoz you subscribe to Visagie's principles, yes I do hate you because I know you hate me too.

      phathuchicos - 2012-05-22 12:24

      John is on the adolescent stage of online forums judging by his comments hey...

      phathuchicos - 2012-05-22 12:27

      Karen just stop being God please...we already have God's second son in Durban prison. And if you are God or a saint as you are acting I dare you to half your wealth to a charity by tommorow...as for now shut up.

  • Herman - 2012-05-22 10:51

    Hang them

  • sonofoldman - 2012-05-22 10:55

    Just bring back the Death Penalty,it is still used in parts of the world. The High Courts shouldn't be showing sympathy to these racist murderers.

  • Khetha Hlophe - 2012-05-22 10:57

    David killed Goliath with just stones according to the bible and David was praised.\r\nToday I see a similar situation,I can't still belive that a common man can kill an AWB leader a well known cruel mean man. Its amazing.

      Felix - 2012-05-22 11:03

      Bwahahaahahaha, two people gang up on a sleeping old man and you compare it to a story in the bible. Some people are stoopid.

  • siyadyosiba - 2012-05-22 11:01

    Some of the banners read: "AWB stood the test of time" and "Long live the AWB". HAHAHAHAHA what test? Clowns... LOL

      phathuchicos - 2012-05-22 11:10

      tel me about it...this AWB clowns just don't know when to stop humiliating themselves, oh I hope hofmeyer will be there...I just love his "i'm not racist but blacks..." track so much.

      siyadyosiba - 2012-05-22 11:30

      hahahaha did you watch them in training? real pathetic clowns. lol

  • malusi - 2012-05-22 11:18

    Not guilty.

  • Hugh - 2012-05-22 11:20

    I pity our country if some of the people that have passed comment here run or live in SA. Really people grow up. Take note of a clebration if the two accused are acquitted. That celebration will tell the reality that is SA. It will tell us of how big the racial divide between black and white.

  • ntando.zangqa - 2012-05-22 11:32

    ...karma. What goes around, comes around. Its the simple law that governs how one should live. ET had it comming, and his killers will get what they deserve. Lesson- 'do no harm'. Racism aside.

      phathuchicos - 2012-05-22 12:46

      amen to that sister...

  • christelle.swart.904 - 2012-05-22 11:38

    paar goeie breindood mense op die site!!! (toemaar julle is verskoon) the world needs idiots to laugh at- At the end it will be a Judgement from God..people are to busy thinking they in controll, they are not!!God set rules upon a murder and He made His promises to what will happen if you murder someone! So let Him do His will- I BELIEVE!!!

  • thando.ramncwana - 2012-05-22 11:46

    Let justice prevail.....but let the dog go 2 hell.......

  • thando.ramncwana - 2012-05-22 11:47

    Let justice prevail.....but let the dog go 2 hell.......

      neels.swart.7 - 2012-05-22 12:40

      Thando your father was dog

      phathuchicos - 2012-05-22 12:55

      @neels online forums are not for grown ups...don't you have something to do in Orania like the upcoming maize festival hey.

      thando.ramncwana - 2012-05-22 12:56

      Ooh ET look who you left behind........yo puppies.....paul and neet.......bloody cross breeds!

  • Martin - 2012-05-22 11:53

    set em free, im sure the AWB double dares you judge

      phathuchicos - 2012-05-22 12:06

      a dog that barks a lot can't bite...with all that beefy-fats goodness in tummies what can they do. you just like your moody Visagie neh...h aaa ha

  • conni.tyabule - 2012-05-22 12:16

    This is baffling! How can you call someone a murderer and wish the death penalty upon them, but in the same breath say if they are released the 'right wingers will hunt them down and kill them'!!? This is a post on here by a Clinton.Bezuidenhout or Clint.Bezuidenhout. What does that make you?? A hero? Really people, wake up! This country is spiralling backwards because people have the 'eye for an eye' mentality! I would like to educate some of you. If these guys are 'set free' they WILL be protected or they can apply for protection because it is a well known fact that they have a bounty on their heads or have AWB after them like lions after a feast! However, if they are set free, it is LEGALLY so, therefore if someone else that is part of this AWB were to make a move(kill or bring harm to), they will be imprisoned!! Do you really want to perpetuate the racial cycle?? Stop calling others racist when you refer to black people as 'them' or white people as 'they'! Please also get over Malema already! He does not represent EVERY black person alive! I'm sick to death of people drawing comparisons to Malema everytime there is a racial debate. He's probably cackling away thinking 'look at these idiots!' Seriously man! Jeez!

  • Ivy - 2012-05-22 12:29

    I expect he will be sentenced to life. whilst Whites who killed blacks were fined.

  • thembuluwo.matambele - 2012-05-22 12:42

    Not guilty,,those guys did a great job,,,hoyu munna ofaho ndiamu vhenga toe

      phathuchicos - 2012-05-22 12:50

      hu sini u fhira nne. Ndi tshika zwithu zwothe hezwi ri tea u tou wana na allowance ya u renga zwigidi zwau fhedzisa tshika heyi yo salaho fhano afurika tshipembe.

      JouMa - 2012-05-22 13:29

      ja net soos hani se moordenaars clive en januz my heroes

  • glenyso2 - 2012-05-22 13:50

    Heavens..............what hope is there for us! Fighting like Katzenjammer kids on cell phones with sms's flying back and forth. It's time to grow up I think

  • Jandl Reevo Reeves - 2012-05-22 15:11

    This was a letter send to the Mercury a SA news paper when Anc said its not to late foe whites,indians and coloureds *** 'To the Previously Disadvantaged' We are sorry that our ancestors were intelligent, advanced and daring enough to explore the wild oceans to discover new countries and develop them. We are sorry that those who came before us took you out of the bush and taught you that there was more to life than beating drums, killing each other and chasing animals with sticks and stones. We are sorry that they planned, funded and developed roads, towns, mines, factories, airports and harbours, all of which you now claim to be your long deprived inheritance giving you every right to change and rename these at your discretion. We are sorry that our parents taught us the value of small but strong families, to not breed like rabbits and end up as underfed, diseased, illiterate shack dwellers living in poverty. We are sorry that when the evil apartheid government provided you with schools, you decided they'd look better without windows or in piles of ashes. We happily gave up those bad days of getting spanked in our all white Schools for doing something wrong, and much prefer these days of freedom where problems can be resolved with knives and guns. We are sorry that it is hard to shake off the bitterness of the past when you keep on raping, torturing and killing our friends and family members, and then hide behind the fence of 'human rights' with smiles on your faces. We are sorry that we do not trust the government... We have no reason to be so suspicious because none of these poor "hard working intellectuals" have ever been involved in any form of "corruption or irregularities". We are sorry that we do not trust the police force and, even though they have openly admitted that they have lost the war against crime and criminals, we should not be negative and just ignore their corruption and carry on hoping for the best. We are sorry that it is more important to you to have players of colour in our national teams than winning games and promoting patriotism. We know that sponsorship doesn't depend on a team's success. We are sorry that our border posts have been flung open and now left you competing for jobs against illegal immigrants from our beautiful neighbouring countries. All of them countries that have grown into economic powerhouses after kicking out the 'settlers'. We are sorry that we don't believe in witchcraft, beet root and garlic cures, urinating on street corners, virginity testing, slaughtering of bulls in our back yards, trading women for cattle and other barbaric practices. Maybe we just grew up differently. We are sorry that your medical care, water supplies, roads, railways and electricity supplies are going down the toilet because skilled people who could have planned for and resolved these issues had to be thrown away because they were of the wrong ethnic background and now have to work in foreign countries where their skills are highly appreciated. We are so sorry that we'd like this country to fulfil its potential so we can once again be proud South Africans. The Previously Advantaged

  • Garrick - 2012-05-22 15:47

    maybe it's time we as South African's put the past behind us and move forward together? Isn't that what Mandela wanted, A unified country where all creeds and colours can prosper together? it's time to stop seeing in black and white and start considering each other.

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