DA: Winnie doesn’t deserve apology

2011-01-12 12:27

Cape Town - The DA on Wednesday expressed concern over reported plans by a senior police officer to present an apology to MP Winnie Madikizela-Mandela after her car was stopped for speeding.

"I am extremely concerned at the reports which claim that Lieutenant General (Mwzandile) Petros is going to accompany the police officers involved to apologise to Mrs Mandela," said Kate Lorimer, the Democratic Alliance's spokesperson for safety and security in Gauteng.

"If this is the case, what on earth makes the lieutenant-general think that some people can indiscriminately break the law?"

Beeld reported that Petros, from the Gauteng provincial police office, would accompany officers who stopped a car carrying Madikizela-Mandela on December 30 after it was spotted going 150km/h, to present her with an apology.

The officers claimed that they were verbally and physically abused by the ex-wife of former president Nelson Mandela and her bodyguards.

Lorimer called for an independent investigation into the incident.

"Mrs Mandela is a Member of Parliament, no more, no less. She has no special dispensation when it comes to breaking the law.

"Lieutenant General Petros should be backing up his policemen on this issue, as it seems that they were only doing their job, as he has, on numerous occasions, instructed."

Gauteng police could not immediately confirm the report that Petros planned to see to it that the officers apologise to Madikizela-Mandela.

  • Ockert - 2011-01-12 12:34

    All the connected persons and the police are above the law - The NEW Master Race.

      Janaman - 2011-01-13 11:42

      people are gonna be so proud when the officers dont apoligise that we will forget about what really is the issue... she was speeding, driving wreckless (unless she has a bloody good reason i dont care) was probably transporting cocaine! the apoligy is a joke she should be laughed at and charged!

  • Bobbi T - 2011-01-12 12:35

    We may have brave policemen - but we don't seem to have brave Lieutenant Generals... (spineless seems more appropriate - break the law - get an apology - nice)

      Jonathan - 2011-01-12 13:27

      ja they need to be an oommmpppff kind of a product. Stomach in chest out!!!

      QuintS - 2011-01-12 14:41

      Agreed! Surely Petros should accompany Winnie to the policemen, so she can apologise to them for being so rude and not respecting our them carrying out their given tasks. ??

      Pragmatist - 2011-01-13 01:54

      Thats what you get when your top brass are political appointees, not someone who has worked their way up...

      Hannes Perth - 2011-01-13 05:24

      Through ANC cadre deployment the police force already became an extension of the ANC. This is just one more example of where the leaders in the police force choose the ANC over their duty to the country. Just look at the role that the police force played to keep Mugabe in power and the red lights should come on. If the ANC is one day truly challenged at the ballot box, do not expect the police nor army to stand by to see their party lose power.

  • rainbowbridge09 - 2011-01-12 12:38

    I hope the policemen do not apologise. They were doing their job. Loads of vehicles were stopped and searched over the festive season, so one more where the driving is questionable - speeding and weaving in and out of traffic - is even more reason to pull it over and search it. No one is above the law and everyone is supposed to be treated the same before it. It will be a sorry day if these two policemen, up holders of law and order leave the SAPS because of this incident in which they are actually the victims of verbal abuse.

  • The Spear - 2011-01-12 12:38

    The police already have a bad enough time out there, now they must apologize to people that think they are better than them? I say no! I say Mrs Mandela should apologize to these police officers and to all police offers in general in this country.

      The Spear - 2011-01-12 12:39

      I also think she should drop the Mandela name because she is a embarrassment to it.

      Made_In_SA - 2011-01-12 13:20

      I vote she just shuts up and plays a game of self asphyxiation...

  • Hannes - 2011-01-12 12:38

    I agree. No special treatment for this criminal.

  • - 2011-01-12 12:41

    What did you expect from Winnie and her henchmen? And the ANC lackeys who are still likcking

  • hermann botha - 2011-01-12 12:44

    The police must be glad that they at least found this lady, she's been missing from parliament for a looooooong time . I do not understand the white on the face as some sources reported. Het sy haar wit geskrik of wat ?

      Susan - 2011-01-12 12:58

      Nee sy probeer wit word!

      Made_In_SA - 2011-01-12 13:19

      How hard is it to miss that huge fat ass she drags around behind her? its was dry dog crap, I heard it makes a number one sun screen?

      trippygrape - 2011-01-12 13:29

      @hermann botha: the white stuff on her face was cocaine my friend!

      Zion - 2011-01-12 13:45

      probably skin lightening cream. (This stuff can cause skin cancer) but winnie is a cancer under the skin.

      watalife - 2011-01-12 13:54

      @Mosele ( Mosele Masobe) get back to your work and leave this chit chat until you get home.You are costing this company money trying to act clever.

      TotalSceptic - 2011-01-12 14:06

      @watalife I agree fully with Mosele, it is not about being white, it is about that high profile politicians think they are above the law and dont get prosecuted as do the normal man on the street.

      watalife - 2011-01-12 14:17

      @ Total Sceptic read Mosele comments again please?

      Worldwise - 2011-01-12 14:41

      OK Mosele: BEE, AA, EE, EO enough? As a white male I will not get a job that a black man applies for even if I am more qualified with more experience. Oh, I'm not being punished? Why discriminate against me then?

      QuintS - 2011-01-12 14:44

      She was was probably sniffing the white powder in her car ...

      roboman1 - 2011-01-12 14:48

      @watalife and Mosele - Well spoken watalife and Bust 6 love hey Mosele. Thats what they mean, Winnie should go out and earn a living instead of trading on her great ex husbands family name. And yes, the whites are the currently disadvantaged Mosele, whether you like it or not. (PS I work for myself, so I am not abusing company money or time like you seem to do!)

      roboman1 - 2011-01-12 14:56

      @watalife and Mosele - Well spoken watalife and Bust 6 love hey Mosele. Thats what they mean, Winnie should go out and earn a living instead of trading on her great ex husbands family name. And yes, the whites are the currently disadvantaged Mosele, whether you like it or not. (PS I work for myself, so I am not abusing company money or time like you seem to do!)

  • - 2011-01-12 12:45

    What did you expect from Winnie and her henchmen? And as for the lackeys who still kowtow to the ANC ... well, same old, same old. It's way past time for ANC -- and Winnie in particular -- to apologise to South Africans for their appalling behaviour

  • Tieneke - 2011-01-12 12:47

    Save a Nation with this ASS around! The driver was speeding, nothing new about that. A MEC from the Freestate got a R20000.00 fine for speeding and HE apologized for his mistake. This women need to do some jail time.....Just wondering if JZ will reprimand her for her behaviour.....

      Hannes - 2011-01-12 12:54

      She is already a convected criminal, just like most other high powered ANC politicians. What else could you expect??? What a shameless cow and an embarrassment to the Mandela name.

  • dehaan1942 - 2011-01-12 12:55

    Petros appears to know which side of his bread is buttered. Keep at it, General, and in a few months you might become a Minister or even President! Anyway, the police appear to be white - clearly they have not "transformed"! General, I advise you to fire them, or, even better, shoot them for high treason! To stop the ex-wife of Mandela! That is an insult to the whole Mandela family! Nay, to the country, to the world! What has become of the police in this country? I hang my head in shame! General, if you do not act promptly, I might hold you responsible for aiding and abetting this crime of the highest order! Do it now or face immediate degradation to the ranks! I have spoken!

      christine - 2011-01-12 14:32

      dont worry no sense of humour lol lol lol

      Roxy - 2011-01-12 18:34

      You sir,...are what we call an idiot

      Rover_ZA - 2011-01-13 08:26

      Most chucklesome!

  • Melly30 - 2011-01-12 12:57

    We will never win this country with the ANC in power... They dont give a crap about us whites or the blacks... Just as long as they have everything that they need!! F*ck the country... let me run it into the ground and make empty promises, you guys are too shorty sited to see it!!! PLEASE DA ALL THE WAY...

      Ross - 2011-01-12 13:15

      I second you, "F*ck the country.

      ant 1 - 2011-01-12 13:40

      Oh yes and the anc can go f--k themselfs to.

      Roxy - 2011-01-12 18:37

      so true, but there is no such thing as a "bloodless revolution" so if I were you I would run, this s*it is coming, and only after the current government has run the country so far into the ground that there is a bloody revolution- due to bloodties with the ANC, they can't be blamed for all their failings and corruption, so that is why Juliuuus is putting the blame know who...with our, you know what tendancies. I can't wait to see them beggin for help, once they have done what they seem to be doing.

  • sydney706 - 2011-01-12 12:57

    Just fine the driver and the taxpayer will pay for it... No apology needed!

  • steven - 2011-01-12 12:59

    Go DA!!! As always standing up for what is right in this banana state...

      rethan - 2011-01-12 13:17


  • Beefcake - 2011-01-12 13:02

    The DA are bloody agents!!!!

      Legend77 - 2011-01-12 13:31


      Picasso - 2011-01-13 08:13

      with their white tendencies, eish!!

  • ekke - 2011-01-12 13:10

    WHY should they apologise for doing their job?! Swerving through the traffic at 150km/h IS breaking the law. They should have at least be fined there and then for speeding if nothing else! Things like this makes me so furious, irrespective if the guilty party is black or white.

  • Among Trees - 2011-01-12 13:10

    Apologising to members of the elite who have broken the law is a bad sign. It's a sign of fear. There should be no need to fear Winnie. Not any more.

  • Goose - 2011-01-12 13:11

    This same woman killed an innocent child and got away scott free! She fits into the ANC mould perfectly! The black masses have the leaders and government they deserve. May they starve even faster in the hope that they come to their senses quicker so we can all move on and get SA working properly again!

      Perfume - 2011-01-12 13:28

      Has she ever apologised publicly to Stompie's family, bloody sick woman!!!!!

  • NotGuilty - 2011-01-12 13:13

    How's that for racism! White cops dare not stop a connected/corrupted black parlament f*ck*r and they're in trouble!? F*ck this bullsh*t!!

  • Estee - 2011-01-12 13:14

    After what happened to her grandchild if would think that she would be more sensible and sensitive with more respect and understanding of speed limits. But not even that could mould this big EGO. I ask myself - will people with this mindset ever change?

      ekke - 2011-01-12 14:54

      EXACTLY! Doe she even remember her granddaughter who was killed last year?!

  • Morne Condon - 2011-01-12 13:14

    The only visit the police should be making to Winnie Madikizela-Mandela is to deliver a fine for speeding, reckless driving and defeating the ends of justice (for leaving the scene) if the original story holds true. I think the abuse of a government official should fit in there somewhere as well. I believe both the woman in question and her bodyguard owe an apology to the police involved - and the people of South Africa for believing they are better than anyone else. What I do find especially interesting is that the police chose not to arrest them on the scene in the first place, that sticks in the throat. Effectively the next time police pull someone over they should simply get out of their car and yell and scream before driving off - an interesting way to avoid a fine.

  • Stryder - 2011-01-12 13:15

    Can you say Banana Republic? A convicted fraudster and murderer who has suffered no consequence would obviously feel immune to a speeding fine. Even Nelson Mandela threw out the trash very quickly when it came to this B*tch!

  • wtfxxbob - 2011-01-12 13:16

    well, se got away home free with killing Stompie... how can you offend her by something trivial like speeding?

  • Made_In_SA - 2011-01-12 13:17

    How many years service does L Gen Petros have? I am willing to bet Julius malema's balls that the general has less years of service than the Warrant officer Odendaal... no wonder he wants to appologise, he kissed a lot of ass to become a general... from special constable to general in five easy years!

      Jonathan - 2011-01-12 13:33

      Oooomppff kind of a product...he is!!!

      ant 1 - 2011-01-12 13:45

      Special! yes class of 2010 i bet...

  • MP3 - 2011-01-12 13:20

    Winnie the pooh

      Jayxer - 2011-01-12 14:01

      Winnie the pig

  • Allin - 2011-01-12 13:21

    She's trash

  • Mike Worm. - 2011-01-12 13:21

    How differently the SA "powers that be" treat some criminals just because of there fame or should I say infamy. They should take a leaf out of the book used by law enforcement in the UK. An MP in London gets a jail sentance for fraud to the amount of GBP 20000 (approx R250 000) but what did all our MP's get for the Travelgate Scandal? Now a previously disadvantaged supporter of the STRUGGLE can apparently drive as fast as they want, abuse Police officers and then expect an apology. Must try that next time.

  • lenand40 - 2011-01-12 13:22

    Anyone know the facts? The article has none

      Grieta - 2011-01-12 13:40

      Dont care about the facts! Fact is she broke the law and that is the point. Who the hell does she think she is? It is time someone puts this disgrace of a human being in her place. If the police apologizes,then they never try to get corruption eradicated from the force! Zuma, do your job and reprimand your chommy!

  • Ammie - 2011-01-12 13:22

    Ek gaan ook daai move try as ek ooit gestop word deur ons Metropolisie! Net jammer dan is ek die volgende week op Carte Blanche want glo my, ek gaan "ge man-handle" word in 'n vên en die nag of week in die selle slaap!!! Eish julle! Ek's behoorlik gatvol om sulke dinge te lees.

  • ebdg3000 - 2011-01-12 13:23

    Petros - what a loser!

  • Sportfan - 2011-01-12 13:23

    I agree,NO APOLOGY. That would be the message but believe me its not so easy,I left a few years ago after almost 15 years of service in the police,to be a white policeman in todays SAPS is already very difficult and to be a white policeman who doesn't want to do as he is told is going to be plainly stupid. I feel for these two officers and in the end they won't do their job anymore because they are going to be scared somebody else reports them,they've been already transferred, so they're going to follow the stream, Two good officers basically lost because of one person of the anc who thinks she is above the law. This is been going on for years and then we want to complain daily the crime rate is to high. Watch how their commisioner is behaving and everything makes more sense.

  • franssmith100 - 2011-01-12 13:24

    THIS WAS HER APOLOGY? "In 1997, she appeared before the Truth and Reconciliation Commission. Archbishop Desmond Tutu as chairman of the commission recognised her importance in the anti-apartheid struggle, but also begged her to apologize and to admit her mistakes. In a guarded response, she echoed his words, admitting that "things went horribly wrong".[13]"

      Picasso - 2011-01-13 08:19

      yes, things went horribly wrong, she was born.

  • Brodie84 - 2011-01-12 13:25

    She needs to do us all a favour and pop off like Manto. She has done nothing but harm for this country.

      christine - 2011-01-12 14:38

      excellent thought --send her to manto

  • Perfume - 2011-01-12 13:25


  • franssmith100 - 2011-01-12 13:25

    GREAT LEADERSHIP WE HAVE "Violent rhetoric and murder allegationsMandela's reputation was damaged by what many considered her sometimes bloodthirsty rhetoric, the most noteworthy example of this being a speech she gave in Munsieville on 13 April 1986, where she endorsed the practice of necklacing (burning people alive using tyres and petrol) in the struggle to end apartheid. She said, "with our boxes of matches and our necklaces we shall liberate this country".[9] Further tarnishing her reputation were accusations by her bodyguard, Jerry Musivuzi Richardson, that Winnie Madikizela-Mandela ordered kidnapping and murder.[3] On 29 December 1988, Richardson, coach of the Mandela United Football Club (MUFC) -- which acted as Mrs. Mandela's personal security detail[10] -- abducted 14-year-old James Seipei (also known as Stompie Moeketsi) and three other youths from the home of Methodist minister Rev. Paul Verryn. Mrs. Mandela claimed that she had the youth taken to her home because she suspected the reverend was sexually abusing them. The four were beaten in order to get them to admit to sex with the reverend and Seipei was also accused of being an informer. Seipei's body was found in a field with stab wounds to the throat on 6 January 1989.[10] This incident became a cause célèbre for the apartheid government. In 1991, she was convicted of kidnapping and being an accessory to assault in connection with the death of Seipei. Her six-year jail sentence was reduced to a fine on appeal. The final report of the South African Truth and Reconciliation commission, issued in 1998, found "Ms Winnie Madikizela Mandela politically and morally accountable for the gross violations of human rights committed by the MUFC."[11]

      christine - 2011-01-12 14:43

      this is my second reply to u --ur comments are excellent and informative --congratulations --u add a class to the comments here--if u can say --who are u --what is your education etc etc --u have my nomination for the senior commenter here --well done --u make my day

  • CTS - 2011-01-12 13:27

    What became of our new law that the licences of offenders driving more than 30km/h (town) or more than 40km/h (rural) get suspended? Or is Winnie above that law? On what grounds?

  • Ghostworrier - 2011-01-12 13:27

    I would have locked the STUPID BITCH UP for swearing at a police officer,or better still shot her there and then and done the world a favour

      ant 1 - 2011-01-12 13:49

      Spot on. then draged her back to were she can from"the shit house"

  • BigD - 2011-01-12 13:31

    lock the woman up if she broke the law. If you apologise you are a spineless manager and should be sacked. who the hell does she think she is, she is not above the law

  • foitapoilet - 2011-01-12 13:32

    Who cares about fat useless politicians like Winnie. This whole stink is another typical ANC disgrace once again and confirms once again that South Africa is run by weak incompetent public servants (puppets) with no clue. MP’s are free to do what they like with their ‘comrades’ in charge of law and order. A chimp in a uniform has as much dignity and commands as much respect. Just like the millions of rand's that disappears in the government departments. The failure rates at the education institutions. The pathetic Defense Force and so on… Just to think the failing masses will be exactly the same in 17 years time because already after 17 years the so called NEW South Africa is what we have today. It’s all a joke and only because common sense and goodwill is outnumbered by masses who follow the likes of Malema. The uneducated masses! That still has not sent any spacecraft to the moon, contributed to modern medicine, technological breakthroughs. Just mass hysteria of toyi toyi to the polls. Africa adieu!

  • Guy - 2011-01-12 13:32

    and while they are about it, will the police please valet her car. It is in a foul state. Dont neglect the ashtray. There is a Stompie in it.

      christine - 2011-01-12 14:45

      lol lol

  • JohannV - 2011-01-12 13:33

    Ag Winnie, jou ou vieslike, onopgevoede, rassistiese ou p**s! Hou op om op jou ex se naam te ry. Kom by, jy is NIKS, net 'n vet ou swart tert met 'n kriminele rekord.

  • Lawson - 2011-01-12 13:34

    I think we are missing the point people, its the new service orientated South Africa, the traffic police are now gonna pull you over and poliyely say, I am sorry to inform you that you have been trapped speeding, you can choose to present me with a memory erasing cash token or you can appear in court...

  • Radrodent - 2011-01-12 13:34

    Apologise? She should be touched on her studio! Bloody agent!

  • Mart - 2011-01-12 13:35

    This individual's conduct continues to be reprehensible and she is an embarrassment to all South Africans ....she has absolutely no class and her sense of right or wrong is so warped by hatred as to defy logic. No wonder policemen and women are so frustrated with their jobs.

  • dilligaf - 2011-01-12 13:35

    Banana state. End of story. What skin colour were these cops ?

  • JP Rheeder - 2011-01-12 13:38

    Helaaaaaan is a RASISSSSCT!!! I am sick and tyad of her RASISSSSCT of us BOLACK peapul. DA are the Imperiaaalists that we were warning you bout my brothas and sistahs. Why can we not document and publish all that goes on in SA government and send a copy to each nation, as a sort of dummies handbook on how to govern as obviously all the other governments are doing it wrong. But seriously at what point does reform become a new era of apartheid? why do no countries put pressure on this government to change its corrupt ways. Dam bureaucracy makes me sick.

      Rover_ZA - 2011-01-13 08:42

      Mr Rheeder.... Haha I don't think there's a hell of a lot of race involved in this issue to be honest. As for a new era of Apartheid, that's a little bit dramatic. What we're seeing is surely an over-correction after the years of injustice which will balance out at some point. This is to be expected if you look at things rationally. No one goes from being discriminated against to accepting a culture of 50-50 opportunities due to not trusting the other party. Once the revolutionary generations have passed (or indeed the younger generations have had enough) and the current youth make up our leadership, the change will start being more noticeable. When we are older there will be more equality. Ashes

  • Nicky - 2011-01-12 13:38

    Driving at 150 km/h - why the heck was the driver not issued a speeding fine?

  • Oupa Willem - 2011-01-12 13:38

    If these poor twits, the Gauteng Cops, apologise to her who will ever have respect for them again? If she gets away with it, I assume so will I can and any "Jan Rap en sy maat" as well. How is she any better than this old retired Waaitie? But then I have no intention of lighting a car tyre with a match to draw attention to myself or sump'n else as stupid.

  • ME - 2011-01-12 13:41

    Pity Petros not here to answer for himself. Maybe he never even thought of "accompanying" these cowards. Always tricky if something is just reported by the media- drama queens!!!.

  • Mahalasami - 2011-01-12 13:43

    Eish I'M GLAD SHE'S NOT MY MOTHER, I'D BE SO EMBARRASSED. I guess the nation is embarrassed. The driver of that car should be removed from our roads. Speed kills.....ha what a joke!

  • Kale - 2011-01-12 13:45

    You go Winnie, show your loyal ignorant mindless followers that you are above the law again. Those police cowards should know their place, I hope you laugh at their apology while you drive your fancy car paid for by our tax money, they don't need it, they are cowardly lowly police officers, corrupt cops brought on by your corrupt movement. Good to see them cowering like whipped dogs. I hate you Winni.

      Lekabisto - 2011-01-12 13:58