DA launches plan for domestics

2011-09-28 14:04

Cape Town - The Democratic Alliance revealed a plan to expand the rights of domestic workers on Wednesday.

"In our current labour dispensation, domestic workers are not afforded the same rights as other workers," DA spokesperson Ian Ollis told reporters at Parliament.

Domestic workers did not have the same level of protection when they were sick or injured, he said.

They were also not covered by the International Labour Organisation's (ILO) convention on domestic work.

The DA had formulated a comprehensive action plan to expand the rights of domestic workers.

"We will take this plan to Parliament and put pressure on the national government to implement it as soon as possible," Ollis said.

The plan included expanding Compensation Fund (CF) coverage to include domestic workers, and ratifying the ILO convention on domestic work in Parliament.

The DA would drive an information campaign via the CF and the labour department to inform domestic workers and their employers of their rights.


Domestic workers were treated as second-class citizens by the labour dispensation, Ollis said.

If other workers became injured or disabled at work, they were protected by the CF and received pension payouts to compensate for losses in income.

"Besides members of the SA National Defence Force and the SA Police Services [who have their own fund], domestic workers are the only category of workers excluded from the Compensation Fund's coverage," he said.

To remedy this, the DA would submit a private member's bill to amend the Compensation for Occupational Injuries and Diseases Act to expand the CF's coverage to include domestic workers.

The implications for domestic workers would be profound.

It would mean that whenever a domestic worker became injured or disabled because of work they would be eligible for compensation.

This would relate to medical expenses, compensation for loss of income, and potential punitive damages if employers were negligent or knowingly complicit in any injuries to domestic workers.

"And it won't be expensive," Ollis said.

Contributions to the CF were made by employers on a monthly basis.

  • Bardy - 2011-09-28 14:11

    I am so proud of the DA. I hope that in the next elections, they win. This country will be turned around for sure! Go Zille and party!

      Servaas - 2011-09-28 14:15

      GO DA!! ANC can learn from this, instead of trying to nail white people all the time, silly children...

      Rural-boy - 2011-09-28 14:43

      you are so bias. If it was cosatu you would have complained about strict labour laws.

      Servaas - 2011-09-28 14:53

      @Rural-Boy: Yes I would thanks to AA/BEE..

      Bardy - 2011-09-28 14:56

      @ Rural-boy. This is not a law you dimwit! It's compensation if the domestic gets sick or injured and unable to work. Something the ANC has not even thought of in their 17 years of empowerment. Yet they claim to be FOR the people! The DA is doing more FOR the people than they ever will!

      myancmyfutur - 2011-09-28 14:58

      I'm glad at last they finally thought of the Tea Girl

      Clauds - 2011-09-28 15:05

      Rural-boy your village is missing an idiot. What can Servaas be bias about, his comment is dually in favour of domestic workers. Have you ever seen a white domestic worker?

      myancmyfutur - 2011-09-28 15:17

      Bardy I presume it was the DA's plan to have the domestic workers registered even for the UIF. The ANC strategic thinking has actually paved the way for the DA to come up with some ideas that we will evaluate and ask them to re-work if there are some flaws

      Bozaza - 2011-09-28 15:17

      Yes it is a goog idea, but turning the country around buddy needs a lot more than this. This is actual a drop in an ocean

      VivaANC - 2011-09-28 15:19

      @ Clauds. There is a reason there is no white domestic workers and I would not be so proud of it if I was you.

      Noah - 2011-09-28 15:24

      Dream on,its ok to dream but the reality is opposite where would the tsunamy of ANC be?where I come from nobody votes for DA.I'm from the second biggest township in the country.I have seen masive changes ever since the ANC took power.we shall continue voting for them even if DA put a token black as a leader.

      IC1 - 2011-09-28 15:25

      @Myanc: At leastthey thought of the Tea-Girl, more than can be said by your anc cronies who only think of their own selves you chop

      Rob Gunning - 2011-09-28 15:25

      @Clauds - I know of 2 white domestic workers. Just because you've never had a white domestic worker doesn't mean nobody has.

      Colin Dovey - 2011-09-28 15:26

      There ARE, effectively, many White Domestic workers - they call them Au Pair - I personally know two - they perform a sterling job, and do not have the back up benefits that the DA is now working to get for them - and not because of colour.

      Bardy - 2011-09-28 15:30

      @ Noah. It is because you are also uneducated. That is why! Continue to vote for your pathetic stealing, corrupt ANC. ANC = African National Corruption.

      I_Say - 2011-09-28 15:59

      Whlst the DA is planning to give their domestics health insurance, the ANC are planning to give the domestics their land back... -- Maybe then the Madam will need the health insurance?

      Baddy - 2011-09-28 16:04

      I cannot agree with you more. I hope people see these kind of things and change their vote... But yeah, I think that will only remain a dream!!! C'mon DA!!!

      HAD - 2011-09-28 16:50

      @VivaANC. How sure are you of your facts? There are quite a number of white domestic workers from Pta West working in other parts of Pta.

      Vela Stardust - 2011-09-28 17:40

      Amazing how when readers support a good idea by the DA all the nasty trolls come out. To the trolls. Hayi suga wena!

      The_Realist - 2011-09-28 17:41

      wait until the new gat-teng tolls kick in, i reckon MANY domestics are going to lose their jobs! thanks again ayencee! doing their BEST to kill employment in sifefrica!

      G.du Plessis - 2011-09-29 01:16

      The DA back BEE too

  • Pekkie - 2011-09-28 14:15

    People still employ domestics? I know a lot of people and not one of them has a domestic!

      Enigma - 2011-09-28 14:22

      @Pekkie-How about we change the name from "domestic worker" to "House Executives", sounds more professional wouldn't you say?

      sinvol - 2011-09-28 14:23

      We also don't have one. Does not want them on my property. I also see to my garden myself! - 2011-09-28 14:26

      you are lucky 'pekkie'. We need both parents to work to bring in income and need to have domestics. It also help to provide jobs for others. more that what the government is doing.

      Enigma - 2011-09-28 14:32

      Why Bardy, would you like go shack up with him? Sorry dude he does not play for that team...ha ha ha LOL

      Pekkie - 2011-09-28 14:33

      No not in a squatter camp, But seriously i dont know anyone who has a domestic worker, I asked all our employees during a break who has a domestic, Only 1 guys, apparently he says his family is too lazy to clean up after themselves, He is a black guy, no whites at work have one, they say its too expensive, and some say the sugar didn't last the month. Enigma, a person who works with sheet metal is a sheet-metal worker, a person who plays rugby is a rugby player etc, If someone works in a domestic home you want to call them House executives, ok but isn't that the title of the stay at home mum? ;))))))

      Lee - 2011-09-28 14:33

      Are you kidding?? Everybody has domestics. Many even have more than one. Appropriate legislation is therefore in order to protect them. Having said that, too much legislation would completely destroy this industry, leaving many without jobs. Domestic workers are a luxury, and as such, too much hassle, admin, and too high a cost would send employers running. Many are already cutting back from having someone coming in daily to coming in only a few days a week etc etc..

      nvl - 2011-09-28 14:36

      ..someone cleaning after me just doesn't seem right.

      Pekkie - 2011-09-28 14:41

      Well that took the wind out my sails, when you said luxury it became clear, Me and my POOR friends and family have to pick up after ourselves, The only luxury i have is my 3G! Ok so now i understand, thanks!

      Buffoon - 2011-09-28 15:00

      What do you call them??

      Carl Muller - 2011-09-28 15:20

      One of the ways we can work against unemployment. I wonder what Jesus will say one day. The poor will always be with you and God loves the widow, foreigner and fatherless....

      Telara - 2011-09-28 16:01

      @ Pekkie - we don't have a domestic either. I'm perfectly capable of cleaning my own house thanks...

      ANC-FTL - 2011-09-28 16:22

      For some people cleaning isnt economical - for 4 hours of work pays for a whole month of cleaning - why clean?

  • Johnny-BB - 2011-09-28 14:23

    ..Athol Trolip should step aside for Lindiwe Mazibuko as DA leader for parliament... ...Maxibuko much more competent than Trollip.....

  • StBad - 2011-09-28 14:24

    I think that's very fair, I'll support this!

  • Crime Buster - 2011-09-28 14:30

    What a joke! I cannot sell my farm due to the "forced land claims", I have not recived any business for the past 7 months because I (a white male)own my company 100%, we do not pay bribes so we have no chance possibly getting some scraps. But, the odd 120 people mostly black are paid every month as I am selling off my assets to ensure they can feed their families - what are you going to do about this ..... nothing as you are the same as the ANC - uselees! Our products are the leaders in the world and people wonder why we are moving everything abroad. I am just sorry for the people who have been with us for the past 6 years. If the SA citizens have the smallest idea what is being pilfered in this country we will have mass action that makes other African countries action look like kids play! We have formally presented to the top groups but they will lose votes thus no action - > R18.5B per year can be recouped if we only cut the fraud by 50%! Think houses and other infrastructure we can develop! We are not serious in SA and we are empting the money coffers at one serious rate but nobody cares - yes I am pissed-off - this is my country aswell

      analyse - 2011-09-29 08:42

      Crime Buster if you think going to Europe will end your problems then you must be Joseph, do your research first. Anyway what are you still waiting for, go go go will take you to the airport myself. What do you mean by "Forced Land Claims". Land Claims can not be forced, duh - do you even know what Land claim is I wonder.

  • Wade Mackintosh - 2011-09-28 14:35

    interesting times - it looks like, after a bit of a silent period, the DA are mobilizing themselves in the direction of "for (all) the people".

  • hawk - 2011-09-28 14:35

    Domestics will lose jobs and Tax payers will have to pay more, all just so that the DA could get a few more votes. Politicians just looking after themselves one again. And he says it wont be expensive what a joke hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah

      Greegs - 2011-09-28 14:41

      Would be like an unemployment fund etc and would not be expensive....if it was it wouldn't work!!!

      ChrisG - 2011-09-28 15:27

      I've also got some concerns about this: I assume the employer will pay the domestic worker on sick days, does this also apply to maternity leave? I'm all for more rights for the DW's, but what happens when it becomes too expensive to keep them employed?

      Allrightythen - 2011-09-28 15:28

      I have had the same domestic working for me for 13 years, if I have to take any more money out of my pocket she is gone, simple as that. Domestic employees are uneducated people that are lucky to have a job and it is really convinient for me too but i put in her hands the most I can afford...if I need to compensate anything, she is gone and thousands of others will do the same. If you want better terms, get an education and a better job. When unemployment is high, benefits are low, that is just simple maths.

  • johan.visser - 2011-09-28 14:35

    Good idea. There is another problem... current increases in rates and taxes is forcing every 3rd person I speak to on this to reduce the hours they employ a domestic. Half of these have live-in domestices and most is considdering termination of full-time employment of their domestic in favour of 1 to 2 days per week. Such is the repercussions of a thumbs-up for ESCOM's price hikes... a further increase in the unemployment rates.

  • Greegs - 2011-09-28 14:40

    This is a great idea! This should be extended to chaps that work in the garden as well, provided they're full time!

      Margaret2 - 2011-09-28 17:21

      Gardeners are considered to be domestic workers.

  • Hawkeyex - 2011-09-28 14:44

    I want the DA to propose the following as well: tax-breaks for those households that employ domestic workers (maids and gardeners). This would encourage households that can afford it to employ workers, all in line with current legislation, thereby contributing to job creation (think ANC's 5 million jobs by 2020!?) and lowering unemployment (and poverty). I wonder if the ANC and SARS have the balls to take this up, as there are positives in this all around.

      Greegs - 2011-09-28 16:00

      Great idea but they would lose chance! In my opinion school fees should also be given a break....would help promote education!

  • motsoka - 2011-09-28 14:45

    I wonder how much they want people to pay the domestic workers

  • Currie_Mafia - 2011-09-28 14:56

    Great ! So you see, the DA is not all about the Madam,sometimes it's about Eve :)

      Pekkie - 2011-09-28 15:14

      Classic my larny! ;)))

  • Darwinian - 2011-09-28 14:58

    I don't have a domestic. Me and my wife do everything ourselves and in the process spend invaluable time together! Oh BTW, nothing has been stolen yet......

      Currie_Mafia - 2011-09-28 15:10

      oh, cmon now never take a few bob from your wife's purse :)

      Darwinian - 2011-09-28 15:24

      @Currie_Mafia heheheh, that one made me smile :)

  • ANC Comrade - 2011-09-28 15:11

    This is good news, my wife is a domestic worker. Funny she likes being in the kitchen!

      Cosatuking - 2011-09-28 15:15

      I agree, domestic work in this country was nothing but exploitation and slavery.My mother is going to be so happy.

      4evaANC - 2011-09-28 15:22

      I agree, its about time we get the same amount of money and rights white ppl get in this country

      Darwinian - 2011-09-28 15:27

      My wife is a financial manager. Funny, she likes being with money....

      ANC Comrade - 2011-09-28 15:47

      @ Darwinian Then why is she with you ?

      Darwinian - 2011-09-28 15:53

      because I like being in the kitchen...

  • Clauds - 2011-09-28 15:12

    Sounds fair, but I'm pondering the probability of such rights in the hands of the less educated such as domestic workers becoming more of a thorn in the employers side's. Not to sound harsh, they deserve the rights, but we all know how someone can take a stance of arrogance when they have rights, and don't understand much of how the world really works.

      daaivark - 2011-09-28 15:20

      Hmmm. OK. So what are you actually suggesting? That they be deprived of their rights, just in case?

      Clauds - 2011-09-28 15:34

      Not at all, as stated its fair, and they deserve rights. If you read the comment at all, I am not suggesting anything.. simply thinking about possibly backlash. Here's a suggestion, lets educate domestic workers. 6 hours work, 2 hours schooling a day.

      Clauds - 2011-09-28 15:39

      Can you imagine how many exasporating exaggerated 'stories' goverment will recieve for these people to try make a quick buck? It goes back to education, ethics, and when n where to know how to use your rights. This is the arrogance and backlash I make reference to daaivark.

  • Ndlovu - 2011-09-28 15:14

    funny.. That means that I have paid all the years "for nothing"?????????

  • Bill - 2011-09-28 15:16

    Noble idea DA...! However if the ANC implement your blueprint, they will get the credit for it not you...thereby increasing their popularity at your expense..!

      Clauds - 2011-09-28 15:22

      Fair analogy, but they have the balls to speak up and let that happen. I'm sure they think long and hard before releasing information about their ideas to the public. This is in favour of the people and not themselves. This shows true leadership to me...

  • Bardy - 2011-09-28 15:19

    @Bozaza. True yes. But we as a nation has to start somewhere. The DA is making a positive difference with everything they do and they are not even in power of the government. Imagine what they will achieve when they are.

  • Bardy - 2011-09-28 15:20

    @Bozaza. True yes. But we as a nation has to start somewhere. The DA is making a positive difference with everything they do and they are not even in power of the government. Imagine what they will achieve when they are.

  • Bardy - 2011-09-28 15:20

    @Bozaza. True yes. But we as a nation has to start somewhere. The DA is making a positive difference with everything they do and they are not even in power of the government. Imagine what they will achieve when they are.

  • Sean Presher-Hughes - 2011-09-28 15:23

    Well, we have always treated any day off work due to illness as a normal work day and our domestic worker would would receive her normal day's compensation anyway! She is like gold to us and we believe in granting her the compensation she so rightfully deserves, Anna, we love you! You have been working for us for more than Ren years now and we would gladly trust our belongings in your hands while we are away from time to time without any worries whatsoever. Any new legislation as suggested here is most welcome and should ensure that domestic workers are not taken for granted! They too have families and mouthes to feed. If you can afford to employ a domestic worker you should undoubtedly be able to afford to contribute to a medical sick leave. A compulsory funeral plan should also be considered!? Sean Presher-Hughes

  • Karen - 2011-09-28 15:25

    Very good idea!!!

  • JayCee - 2011-09-28 15:32

    This is all good and well but if the employer can't afford to pay the extra cost, who is going to be without a job? The Domestic... this could also lead to full time domestics being put on part time and getting a lower income because THE MADAM won't pay the additional costs. What about the CHEAP LABOR gang? They will come out in full swing, willing to work for less and no benefits... where does that leave our hard working older domestics? I think that before the DA runs around trying to get more black votes, they should think carefully about who is really going to benefit... AND before you tolls go jumping on my back... I'm NOT white and I'm NOT an ANC supporter... I'm just a concerned citizen.

  • LD - 2011-09-28 15:38

    This proposal is for the benefit of Lindiwe Mazibuko (Helen's domestic worker).

  • shellerjc - 2011-09-28 15:58

    I wish this was in place already- My domesic worker of the past 5 years is so ill, she has been off for three months, we still paid her, but we now feel we can no longer do that as there is no guarantee that she will get any better and be in any situtaion to come back to work - and it saddens me that we have to let her go

  • King - 2011-09-28 16:10

    Yesterday they announced that Mazibuko is running for the parliamentary leader position, and today the tea-girls are uplifted.

  • Vincent - 2011-09-28 16:10

    I personally do not have a maid as I dont really like the idea of someone else cleaning up after me, but I think that this is a good Idea. All workers should have basic protections and not be exploited. This is fair.

  • analyse - 2011-09-28 16:11

    If South Africa's got equal opportunities how come I have never met a white domestic worker. I know some of you will scream at this but basic economics will tell you that in an efficient market if 10% of the population is white, one would expect to see @ least 10% in all industries. We are living in a distorted environment and its not sustainanble - cry all you want but you will remember this statement in the near future CHANGE IS IMMENENT. I dont know where it will come from, but its coming. These are minor changes DA is making, cosmetics and cosmetics might make one look pretty for a moment not even a while. People open your eyes and ANALYSE

  • Lamu - 2011-09-28 16:46

    The truth is if it was the ANC or COSATU's plan people will be complaining about strict labour laws in South Africa. But i'm glad the DA is coming up with something good that benefits the majority of domestic workers in SA, keep it up.

  • Barry M - 2011-09-28 16:52

    Because these Domestic Workers have made a habit of abusing their "Rights" and taking their employers to court at the drop of a hat, I have stopped employing them - once bitten twice shy. We have adopted the habit of keeping our place clean ourselves. The risk of being burgled due to loopholes in security posed by having a domestic worker is also nullified. If more people in the affluent areas would get of their fat butts and do their housework themselves we also wouldn’t have all these taxis invading us every day.

  • letsee - 2011-09-28 17:32

    The DA must take these kind of initiatives to erode the ANC majority.

      analyse - 2011-09-29 08:33

      It can only happen when we have real opposition, not people who are masquerading as opposition just to protect their leagacy

  • Kuifie - 2011-09-28 17:43

    I am concerned that more rights or compensation will be more expensive. People will the reconsider the number of days and the number of domestics employed. But, I agree they need more protection.

  • Trueblue - 2011-09-28 18:09

    Proactive and evolutionary policies from a proactive and dependable party. Vote DA to bring in real transformation. The only the thing the ANC cadres have transformed is the size of their wallets.

  • Elaine - 2011-09-29 09:39

    We took out accident insurance on behalf of our gardener and domestic worker so that they (and we) are covered should they have accidents not only at work but also when they travel around. This also covers them if they are attacked by criminals. It has brought us peace of mind and hasn't cost much per month.

  • Helen - 2011-09-30 13:55

    Get real, DA. This new plan is neat a red herring to gull people like "Bardy" and other naive fools. While it's a good idea,it simply serves to takes attention away from far greater and more serious matters which the cannot deal with - dealing with the injustices of the ANC, for instance.

  • Enlightened - 2012-03-13 08:49

    I fully understand where this is coming from but, bare in mind that sa "employers" financial resources are being eroded at quite some speed. I suspect you are legislating more and more of them out of work. I haven't had a domestic for years as it is too expensive and legally too risky. If I really need someone, I contact an agency. Saves me all the trouble

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