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DA marches against drugs in Johannesburg

2012-07-07 14:34

Johannesburg - DA supporters marched around the Windsor East area, north of Johannesburg on Saturday, mobilising residents for the establishment of a specialised anti-drugs unit in the area.

Provincial Democratic Alliance leader John Moodey said residents were signing a petition that would be sent to the Linden police station commander and Randburg Magistrate's Court chief prosecutor.

The marchers want a narcotic bureau to help fight the scourge of drugs.

"Drug usage in Windsor is very rife and the community has been complaining for a long time, that is why we are calling for this unit," said Moodey.

The DA believed authorities were not doing enough to curb drug-related crimes.
It wanted drug dealers appearing in court to be denied bail.

"The unit must be multifaceted... There should be a prosecutor who focuses on drugs, [the] community must be involved, [and] authorities must have necessary resources."

The march was led by Moodey, ward councillor Laurette van Zyl and local church leaders.
Police spokesperson Colonel Lungelo Dlamini said no incidents of violence were reported at the march.

Comments
  • CharlesDumbwin - 2012-07-07 14:44

    I hope they didn't march too close to Cosatu's offices again. Those Cosatu tsotsis always throw stones...

      sizwe.bwana - 2012-07-07 16:20

      Malema would be right at home with Cosatu, maybe he should ask them for a job

      christelle.james.7 - 2012-07-07 17:57

      Amazing the support group you constantly see at the DA marches. I cannot wait for next year's elections.

      Nyiks11 - 2012-07-07 20:08

      Cosatu e tshela phata mfana , ba trapa DA ba nyele

      paulmandlankosi - 2012-07-08 09:31

      A handfull of headless blacks, where is the makhulu baas?

      sachasea - 2012-07-09 17:49

      http://www.usnews.com/debate-club/is-it-time-to-scale-back-the-war-on-drugs/former-cops-agree-legalization-is-the-path-to-controlling-drugs

  • Tony Lapson - 2012-07-07 14:58

    I, for one am against drugs, but I don't think that constant "wars against drugs" are the key. The government should consider regulating, taxing and legalizing less harmful (and more popular) substances like dagga, mushrooms and ecstasy... Take the power away from dealers and organized crime, then the tik/heroin/cocaine dealers will be easier to focus on. This is a personal opinion, and I'm sure many will disagree with me. With regards to this article... I think this march won't be effective and it was a waste of time.

      Malcolm - 2012-07-07 15:42

      Agree with you. With regards to the march not being effective, if the intention is to do something about drugs you are right it probably won't. However I doubt that's the real intention is, I suspect the real intention is for the DA to be seen doing something by the people and thereby win votes and on that front it will likely be a success.

      bryan.nicholson.33 - 2012-07-07 15:49

      I think it is very unethical. People often abstract from the harmful effects of such substances. There is no such thing as less harmful drugs. "Dagga" for example has been known to cause severe mental disturbances like psychosis and there is even speculation that it may induce schizophrenia in those individuals whom may be predisposed to such illnesses. Such happenings exist and all it takes is one casual "Jay" between friends in certain individuals to cause this.(I speak from experience). Another point and this is a very chilling one: As a kid, I often used the concept of "Legalize Weed" as a humorous justification for the habit and I can attest to others doing to the same. It is a personal opinion, yes I agree but there are many shades of grey.

      Tony Lapson - 2012-07-07 17:37

      Brian, would you happen to be Richard Nixon by any chance?

      zaatheist - 2012-07-07 20:41

      I agree Tony. By why not just lagalise all drugs; regulate and tax the supply and use the proceeds for rehabilitation and intensive anti-drug education. The war on drugs was lost decades ago, like the war on alcohol was lost in the US a century ago. All that criminalisation achieves is to create more wealthy and ruthless criminals.

      bryan.nicholson.33 - 2012-07-07 22:42

      Nah Ziggy Marley, I just know what it feels like to spend months recovering from a hell you would never understand. On principle and experience, I will not back Legalization.

      martin.britchford.5 - 2012-07-09 11:39

      i agree too, windsor is an obvious spot, since the "war" on drugs began there, crooked cops are simply paid off, dealers moved out of the area and others never even bother with such liability, they operate in a more professional hard to see kinda way, this march will achieve nothing at all, if a junkie wants to use, let them use, nail them if and when they rob or steal, make the area safe, prosecute for all by law infringements, jay walking, littering, urinating in public, etc, the dealers will pull out cos its not a free for all any more and way too stressful, provide a needle swop for the heroine junkies, where they can be supplied with clean needles to help prevent diseases spreading...america with all its resources fail miserably at winning the war on drugs, world wide, regardless of laws, punishments and law enforcement drugs are smuggled and people get their poison, it cannot be won, it must be assimilated to be destroyed, saying that, the demand will never stop, but the way drugs are made and sold can be regulated.

  • manu.dibango.96 - 2012-07-07 14:59

    Today I read a story of the residents of Hanover Park in Cape Town asking for a state of emergency. Quite sad really. Now charity begins at home. How about focusing on people in your own neighbourhood first? The drug problem in Cape Town is terrible.

      CharlesDumbwin - 2012-07-07 15:16

      The DA won wards around the country, DA is everywhere! Be afraid ANC, be very afraid

      manu.dibango.96 - 2012-07-07 15:27

      Charles, Cape Town is a DA city! You don't find it strange that with a horrible drug problem in its own backyard, DA chooses to focus on Johburg first? I live in CT and week in week out I hear of some very sad stories coming out of the townships and poorer suburbs. Some of the stories are stomach churning. Now I have seen the anti drug posters that the DA has put up around the city. But to start with protests in Johburg? It defies understanding. I will be cynical and say that they did this because they didn't want CT to look bad in the press.

      hudayfah.newman - 2012-07-07 15:42

      We all know the drug problem in cape town is bad. The problem will not dissapear over night. The D.A has made the drug problem one of their main priorities (even De lille started rapping about it). They should be applauded for trying to keep the problem under control in other areas before it becomes another 'cape town'. i don't know why the objection when something good is clearly being done.

      ratsaka.eugene - 2012-07-07 15:42

      Dumbwin, don't be dumb, DA wins white concentrated wards. Can DA win Soweto? Or Tembisa? Imagine that. Maybe Cope. Not DA

      manu.dibango.96 - 2012-07-07 15:59

      hudayfah, I am not objecting because something is being done. I am pointing out the poor prioritisation. FYI, anywhere can become like Cape Town. Choosing where to start from all these healthy places is like a lottery. But one fact that is known for sure is that CT has a big drug problem so why not start in CT? If one of your children becomes sick which child will get the most attention? The sick one of course. But suppose you chose to focus on the healthy children, should we not question your priorities?

      Nyiks11 - 2012-07-07 18:50

      @Charles Dumbwin Of course the ANC is very afraid ,for DA members got warts everywhere

      Phelamanga - 2012-07-07 20:39

      The DA is everywhere, not just in Cape Town. Each branch has its missions whether it be a march against drugs in JHB or protesting against the non-delivery of text books in Polokwane. The DA has had many protests against drug abuse in Cape Town. So, the priorities are all in the right place. At least the DA are focusing on the real societal problems instead of demonising another race by promoting racist thinking to hide their own failings and sprouting commubabble to sound intelligent. In the northern suburbs of JHB there are also stomach-churning stories that come out every week that are drug related. I lived there and it's easy to get any drug you want in the car parks of malls and in quiet neighbourhood streets. Families are being torn apart, young children doing cocaine and so on, and people are dying. It's not only a CT thing. Get your priorities straight and join the DA, manu.dibango.96.

      paulmandlankosi - 2012-07-08 09:32

      Most drugs are in the DA wards, stop being in denial and face the realities

      manu.dibango.96 - 2012-07-08 12:39

      TrueBlue, I don't particulary care about the political angle of this story. Actually I don't care much for politics. However, logic and the rationale for actions and their implications for society do interest me. What you are refusing to acknowledge is that from an organisational perspective demonstrating against drugs in Johburg is strange. FYI many here have noted this, so I am not alone in making this observation. It's fair to say that the drug problem in CT is worse than anywhere else in SA. So it's reasonable to expect that any anti-drug campaign will kick off in CT. You put up posters in CT but march in Johburg! eh, how does that work? You say that the DA holds anti drug marches in CT. When was the last one? I know that communities in the cape flats sometimes hold marches but I have never heard of the DA doing so. But you can correct me if I am wrong. I am kind of surprised that you paint this picture of the drug problem in Johburg being as bad as that in CT. Really? Do drug gangs in Johburg go around shooting up their neighbourhoods? Yesterday alone, in CT 2 were killed at a funeral in gang related violence. In a separate incident a 12 year old boy was shot and injured.

  • busisiwe.kubeka1 - 2012-07-07 15:06

    Clean your Cape Town first

      CharlesDumbwin - 2012-07-07 15:16

      The DA won wards around the country, DA is everywhere! Be afraid ANC, be very afraid

      keith.ngobeni - 2012-07-07 15:24

      Busisiwe you're suffering from identity crisis that's why you're always posting garbage,here on this forum you're masquerading as a woman but on your facebook profile you're claiming to be a man, just pack your bags and go back to your native Zimbabwe, south Africa is for all it's citizens including blacks,whites,Indians,coloureds,green and yellow etc, your mind is full of venomous and you don't deserve to live in south Africa because you're taking our beautiful country back to stone age, get a life you ignoramus.

      busisiwe.kubeka1 - 2012-07-07 15:29

      Sihlama sakho Ngobeni uzo bhotsha umile

      sibusiso.mkoko - 2012-07-07 16:46

      Last time I checked, ngobeni's r from zimbabwe via limpopo. Fyi, u the racist here. Famba kaya boet

  • Bongiwe Hlatshwayo - 2012-07-07 15:47

    clean up cape town 1st, gangs plus drugs and gang related activities alarmingly high. We r scared 2 even send our kids 2 varsity ther lest they bcome addicts!! Ths week alone, CT airport caught how many drug mules? Charity begins @ home!

      brendon.nel.7 - 2012-07-07 17:10

      U said it. CAUGHT!!! When was the last time the anc caught anything other than flack for being USELESS?

  • sibusiso.mkoko - 2012-07-07 16:40

    Clowns. They can't clean up Cape town, and wanna come act like heroes in Jozi. Bloody Idioms!

      RockyBell - 2012-07-07 18:47

      wow ......how ignorant can one be ....chuck me Farlie ....wake up boykie - your behind times, big time. The anc is on their way out ....soon, very soon...the maases are not going to tolerate their BS much longer. Run sibusiso ....... run!!

  • Nyiks11 - 2012-07-07 16:40

    You timewasters should be marching in the DA backyards of Lentegeur , Portland ,Bishop Lavis and Grassy Park instead . Oh , I almost forgot Hanover Park ( Hanover your TIK my bru )

  • Irene - 2012-07-07 16:41

    Well done DA for doing a whole lot more than cANCer regardless of the province.

      paulmandlankosi - 2012-07-08 09:49

      SAdly the ANC is going to get my vote, sit on your head and clap your feet Irene

  • brendon.nel.7 - 2012-07-07 17:01

    Well done DA. But we need all party's and organizations to rally behind this cause. Where's the ANC, COSATU, ANCYL, etc etc? To busy fretting over Zuma's tool to worry bout the real issues I'm sure.

  • ricardo.a.pieterse - 2012-07-07 19:44

    if only they (DA) would held the very same marches in the Western Cape againts the druglords.

      Nyiks11 - 2012-07-07 20:16

      Let them try if they wanna see a once in a lifetime collaboration between the numbers gang , Americans , hardlivings and the Gimbas. There won't be bricks flying but stray bullets because cape gangsters can't shoot straight

      paulmandlankosi - 2012-07-08 09:36

      They will not want to upset their core voters

  • Mike Peach Purchase - 2012-07-07 19:45

    Well said Keith that person is a big agent but very easy to read,like 0 plus 0 a million times is and always will be zero.

  • skabhu.babhebhe - 2012-07-08 01:22

    To hell with DA; viva ANC viva!!!

      christelle.james.7 - 2012-07-08 04:30

      To hell with the ANC - I feel sorry for their poor ignorant supporters.

  • john.markham.737 - 2012-07-08 07:58

    Again no vandalism when the DA march. Looks like it is only the ANC and its cronies that attracts these criminal elements when they march. Maybe they don't feel at home in the DA. LOL

      paulmandlankosi - 2012-07-08 09:41

      THere was no vandalism because John Markham was not there

  • arne.verhoef - 2012-07-08 08:18

    The drug war is a failure. Clearly this approach is not working, so why are you still following it? My body is my body. Regulate what you put in your body, and I will regulate mine. Decriminalise, regulate, tax and dissuade.

      arne.verhoef - 2012-07-08 09:53

      "You can't tell me other wise" Are you by any chance an ANC supporter? Thats a very sad state of mind, being unwilling to accept new ideas or concepts, that might change your world, just because you have a stubborn, deterministic outlook, wanting this big ol' homogenised human population and human experience. Shame.

      arne.verhoef - 2012-07-08 10:09

      Also, kindly note that you have a ridiculous argument in favour of the drug war, which you state so eloquently: "The sht is illegal because it is addictive!". Really sir? Then what about sugar, alcohol, cigarettes, and a whole ocean of over the counter and prescription medicines? Do you know that a vast array of drugs, like ecstasy, aren't really addictive? Do you know that about 4% of this world use marijuana, yet you dont see any rogue gangs of stoners out on the streets killing and maiming. You might see them clearing out the convenience store late at night, but that is about that.

      arne.verhoef - 2012-07-08 10:20

      "I use" Ha! Sir, what does that even really mean? I use a lot of things, one thing that Im really proud of using, is my mind. If you mean to say that I use drugs, why yes, yes I do. I often partake in alcohol use(A good pinotage or a brandy being favourites) and I smoke. I tend to try and avoid popping pills, but hey, sometimes the doctor knows best. I know there is hope, because a lot of people are seeing that, having the right to put the fermented grapes or tobacco leaf into their bodies, means that other people have the right to ingest what they feel they need to too. The whole idea of illegality is rather idiotic, you might as well ban cars, they kill people at a much greater rate than any possible drug will. I do wish you strength on your journey, you have overcome a great trial, something to be very proud of. Good luck with the rest of the road!

  • Siyabonga Margqarmzorh Masondo - 2012-07-08 09:19

    D da must first start in CAPE TOWN and clean the so called gangs, already today 8/07/12 we heard 4 ppl short in Cape Town by gangs shooting one another,

  • samgaf - 2012-07-08 10:06

    We did have an anti-drug unit,it was called Pagad

      Nyiks11 - 2012-07-08 11:27

      Once I visited the cape and had a staggie burger and pagad of chips

  • Shaun Robinson - 2012-07-08 10:06

    As a recovering addict myself the problem lies in the approach of the police. They believe if they remove the user's, there will be no dealer's. Problem is for every one they remove, three take there place. It's time for a shift in mind set...

  • zionpercival.pay - 2012-07-08 11:17

    I hope they include the scourge of cannabis.

      arne.verhoef - 2012-07-08 15:13

      Ill say this again: You sir, are an idiot.

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