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DRC protesters angry with Zuma

2011-12-05 14:08

Johannesburg - A group of protesters from the Democratic Republic of Congo have accused President Jacob Zuma of being complicit in what they believe is electoral fraud during their recent election.

"Zuma has organised fraud in our election," said Mondeor Mwela during a protest in central Johannesburg.

Protesters threw the business cards of Etienne Tshisekedi, challenger to President Laurent Kabila, in the air.

The group said police had fired rubber bullets at them as they tried to get to the ANC's Luthuli House headquarters in the Johannesburg CBD.

Police kept them at bay opposite Beyers Naude square, while parts of Sauer and President streets were cordoned off.

The group said western interests wanted Kabila to stay in place because of the country's mineral resources.

They questioned why South Africa had sent troops to the country, saying there was no war and that they wanted the troops out. They claimed the South African observers were aware there was cheating in the election, but had not done anything about it.

Comments
  • tbooze - 2011-12-05 14:15

    YOU GIVE THEM A HAND NOW THEY WANT THE WHOLE ARM ,DID THEY EVEN WENT BACK HOME TO VOTE ?

      tbooze - 2011-12-05 14:34

      Now that we have your full attention ,could you kindly please stop sending us junk mail about Winning the lottery Kindly The rest of the world

      Hilander - 2011-12-05 15:07

      BRO! YOU NEED TO GROW UP, CONGO IS ONE OF THE WORLD GREATEST COUNTRY IN NATURAL RESOURCES AND WHILE SA HAVE BEEN IN APPARTHEID ONE OF THE ANC SUPPORTER IN THE TIME OF MOBUTU...CONGOLESE ARE NOT HERE TO BEG AND MOST OF THEM HERE ARE DOCTORS AND HELP A LOT IN SA MEDICAL SYSTEM COZ WHEN THEIR COUNTRY WAS STABLE THEY HAD CHANCE TO GET EDUCATED...THOSE PEOPLE ARE REFUGEES HERE BECAUSE OF THE POLITICAL SYSTEM ACTUALLY IN THE CONGO, THEY ARE HOPING TO STOP IT BY KICKING OUT KABILA FROM HIS SECONG ELECTION CHEATING BUT UNFORTUNATLY ZUMA AND MANY OTHER LEADERS HAVING DEALS(INGA...) WITH KABILA ARE SUPPORTING HIM AGAINST THE WILL OF PEOPLE... I THINK SA SHOULD BE THE COUNTRY WHO CAN BETTER UNDERSTAND POPLE OPPRESSION BUT YOU GUYS DIDNT JUST LEARN ANYTHX...SHAME

      djmain1 - 2011-12-05 15:23

      Those are 419 scams from Nigeria! Duh

      Fumanchu - 2011-12-05 15:27

      Hilander, are you high? i can just imagine how it sounds when you freak out in a conversation... very funny!

      Thabang - 2011-12-05 15:54

      Its a good thing SA is gonna review Immigrant Rights...firstly.. no Jumping up and down in our streets. We hav enough protests of our own. Now we the taxpayer hav to pay for every rubber bullet shot @ da confused DRC protestors..If you want justice..take it to your streets...Not here!!!

      Kolobe - 2011-12-05 15:55

      Hilander why aren't you fighting your battles in Congo?did the anc come strike in Congo?plus they only had their leaders there not half the population parading as refugees. We haven't even had time to enjoy democracy and half of Africa is here. A poor country like sa can never be a refuge for the entire continent ,go back home and sort out your problems instead of forever jumping a border

      tbooze - 2011-12-05 16:15

      @Hilander never S***T under a tree that gives you shade

      Tokkie - 2011-12-05 16:27

      I say..put them in trucks and send them to th DRC...I bet that hey don't even have jobs here.

      Hilander - 2011-12-05 18:34

      @Fumanchu i'm not high bro, my keayboard was locked in capslock... @Thabang when you talking about immigration law pls dont think you living in paradise, My GF is a SA(Zulu) actually she is in IRLAND do you think the should review it for her as well. Xenophobia is a law level people spirit... When you think Mpumalanga other people are thinking the world. Many are SA citizens born in Limpompo, grow up in limpompo, 1st kiss and kids in limpompo... never heard about Capetown, how could tehm know how other people in the world are living? If congolese cant go home to vote, it is because Zuma is supporting an assassin in Congo...

      Sheda - 2011-12-05 18:46

      Of course it is rigged. In SA the election is also rigged. So why not use the ringleader, Zuma, to show them how to do it. How can you have ANC members heading up the IEC. So much for independance

  • djmain1 - 2011-12-05 14:17

    Join the queue - we SAfricans are angry at Zuma for him being the thieving, lying scum that he is. He very neatly side-stepped 783 fraud charges against him - first saying he wanted his day in court to clear his name and then doing everything in his power not to have his day in court. He selected yes-men into powerful positions to facilitate this and raped our justice system too - this is on-going. And because he is presiding over the absolute looting of our state coffers by cANCer cadres without doing much to stop it. Phansi cANCer, phansi!!!

  • Poloyatonki - 2011-12-05 14:19

    They are here illegally and they still have the guts to protest against our president, use live ammunition not rubber bullets.

      Call_Of_Muti_3 - 2011-12-05 15:35

      Just like the rest of Africa should have used live ammo against MK soldiers, during the supposed Great Armed Conflict Against Whitey, that Malema was in? If the ANC douchebags who were sent there to monitor the elections actually did their job, then there would be no DRC protesters at the Revolutionary House. Of course they spent their time in fancy hotel rooms, running up bills and ordering coke and hookers, just like when they were involved in the Zimbabwe elections. tl;dr This is Africa.

      Hilander - 2011-12-05 21:05

      Poloyatonki, no need to ba a hater and xenophobic. We not discussing about people who are taking your jobs and women here even if i'm having for wife a beautiful Zulu woman she is mine not yours. we talking about Zuma your president who is supporting an assassin, a criminal in our land so our children who are your nephews cant visit their father land peacefully...Get a live man stop being HATER AND XENOPHOBIC thinking foreigners come to put you guys down... If you know a congolese who is living illegally here why are you not reporting at the police Mr citizen instead of using fake word just to say wrong thx against people who are peacefully telling your your leader involment in our country?

  • Musa - 2011-12-05 14:20

    As much as we love our fellow Africans, but don't come and insult us in our own backyard. Go home and sort your internal issues. Be warned: Don't come anywhere near Luthuli house, that's our revolutionary house. It must be respected.

      Maai - 2011-12-05 14:28

      I think they are on their way to Loot-freely house as we speak...

      djmain1 - 2011-12-05 16:00

      Loot-freely House - I like it! LOL

      Hilander - 2011-12-05 16:30

      MUSA no one insulted your president, please note that even foreigners have the right to protest in foreigner country... Congolese are not protesting against SA gouvernmemnt or are not claiming toilets, Congolese protesters are just letting know their SA broters and sisters that Zuma the SA president is involve in supporting a criminal in the Congo... Please bro it simply as that, you will do the same if one congolese leader had to back up murderers here...

      Grant - 2011-12-05 19:22

      Dont worry - they arent insulting all South Africans... only the retarded ones!!

  • Craig - 2011-12-05 14:21

    Why dont you guys go back home and sort your own problems out instead of sitting back and blaming your problems on our president. We have enough problems ourself, takes your home

      Hilander - 2011-12-05 16:34

      Craig people wish to go back and believe me living in SA as refugees is not a nice dream for any congolese, it is a nightmare... whatch TV France 24, aljazeera to see how Kabila is busy killing congolese back home...People are TOYTOYING back home and those who are out are supporting them in their way...We didnt break your country, we just telling you guys that Zuma is not helping us to go home by supporting our persecutor...

      Craig - 2011-12-05 17:14

      And Zuma aint helping us South Africans either. Although there is nothing perhaps on the magnitude that you guys have it, but what are you expecting from a guy that struggles to run his own country. We have enough issues here with racism and hatred, perhaps a better country would be more use to you. Cause ours needs help too

      Hilander - 2011-12-05 18:44

      Craig note that in politic countries dont have friends, they have interest, Zuma is not playing the charity service in the Congo, he is negotiating business"Read articles about INGA, the biggest electricity service in the world who will be build soon in the Congo to supply SA and other african country" As countries sharing the same environment we need to adjust each other in our problems, it is not about one needed help for another but it is about co-relation. Zuma want to maintain KABILA the murderer more for his personnal interest because he build a particular relationship and financial plan with him, NOT ONLY FOR SA, while SA could find his true interest in any any candidate elected by CONGOLESE because the signed contrat remain between countries and not ZUMA-KABILA..

  • Gregory Jurgens - 2011-12-05 14:23

    What are our troops doing in the Congo ? Besides wasting more of our taxes.

      Hilander - 2011-12-05 16:36

      Your troop are in the Congo to help Kabila to shoot congolese who will stand against him when they will publish his cheating result BRO! Your Zuma knows, the money who will come from SA army in congolese murdering will generate more money then your tax...

      Hilander - 2011-12-05 18:46

      I mean more in Zuma pocket...

      Grant - 2011-12-05 19:23

      Hopefully stealing someone ELSE's money... I need to hold on to my last bit!

  • Marion - 2011-12-05 14:26

    If there isn't war in the DRC what is their basis for coming to SA as refugees?

      Hilander - 2011-12-05 15:15

      MARION, CONGO NEVER HAVE BEEN IN PEACE SINCE SA APPARTHIED HAS BEEN ENDED, MANY WARS TOOK PLACE AND INSTABILITY STILL IN MANY AREAS...PEOPLE ARE HOPING TO STOP THIS BY KICKING OUT OF POWER KABILA WHO IS ONE OF THE PEOPLE INVOLVE IN THIS WAR BUSINESS FOR MINERALS... WHAT YOU GUYS IGNORE MANY SA LEADERS FROM MBEKI ARE INVOLVED IN PEACEMAKING AND GUNS SALING IN THE CONGO...PLEASE PEOPLE GET INFORMED BEFORE YOU JUDGE PEOPLE...

      Marion - 2011-12-05 15:28

      @Hilander... THERE'S NO NEED TO SHOUT !!!

      Hilander - 2011-12-05 16:38

      I'm not shouting MARION, sorry if i give you that impression, my keayboard had a proble i fixed it...You know Marion Heistein has been refugees and USA gain a lot from him... No need to discriminate people... how many of us because of our exil in SA are saving SA citizen lives in hospitals while our own people are killed and assassinated by a murderer president support by Zuma?

  • Mashudu - 2011-12-05 14:30

    Go back to DRC & Fight with ur own president. We've a lot on our plate right now.We real can't afford this now.

      Hilander - 2011-12-05 15:23

      WHEN WAS YOU BORN MASHUDU? THE ANC TO FIGHT APPARTHEID HAD PEOPLE IN AND OUT SA, DONT JUST think with your xenophobic mind think like a clever man...

      Noninho - 2011-12-05 16:27

      And what do you Maleme was about to do ass hole?

      djmain1 - 2011-12-05 16:49

      @ Poly - WHAT!!??? - we've reconciled? Would never have said that judging from your usual posts on the fora.

      Hilander - 2011-12-05 18:52

      Poloyatonki - If you ignore your history you will never know where you are going. SA should be the most attentive country to oppressed people, You dont want to talk about aparthied? you surely feeling guilty i understand but history have to be teached to kids so they will remember the great madela who stopped criminal and create inspiration to young to fight more human right abuse like KABILA do in the Congo. You are talking like that coz og lack of your own history...How can you understand others if you cant face your own past and accept it?

      Grant - 2011-12-05 19:25

      @Hilander - you obviously didnt attend Selfish101 did you? :P

  • Swapie - 2011-12-05 14:35

    Retournez à la maison et résoudre vos problèmes!

  • Mbadu - 2011-12-05 14:39

    i think most of you people who are saying negative comment u should look at the bottom of the problem before making stupid comment like idiot who never went to school. let me explain to you what those consolese people really mean by saying that zuma should stop what is doing in the DRC AS all of you know that the were election in drc and kabila is unpopulaire which everyone knows that so zuma and the all the europpeen country are forcing us and trying to cheat so that kabila can be elected again for the seconde time. i hope u will understand now

      Hilander - 2011-12-05 16:40

      Thanks Mbadu another SA bro who can use his brain with no xenophobic feeling...Thanks a lot

      Grant - 2011-12-05 19:25

      Its just a trial-run for when they do the same thing in SA soon...

      Walter - 2011-12-06 21:09

      Mbadu stop talking about things you dont know, who said Kabila is not popular in DRC, secondly who said Zuma is supporting Kabila, your friend and his friends must forward the proof that the elections were not fair, since when RSA is friends with France, your friend must tell you what is his grandfather Thsesekedi doing in DRC.Do you know the role of RSA troops in DRC, when was Inga projected negotiated. Please people get your facts right before you start blaimng other people.

  • Mbadu - 2011-12-05 14:41

    marion stupid comment

  • Call_Of_Muti_3 - 2011-12-05 14:44

    HOLY F****** S***!! They have an actual zombie president. According to this article, the president of DRC is Laurent Kabila - even though he was assassinated in 2001 - and was succeeded 8 days later by his son, Joseph Kabila. I can't believe that anyone here can comment on the political aspects of this story, while ignoring the fact that THE DEAD ARE RETURNING TO THE REALM OF THE LIVING! Like, wow man, who will come back next? I'm hoping for Elizabeth I. Of course, the ANC is praying to their necro-ancestor gods that Stalin will come back and restore the Motherland to its glorious former state. I troll you people not: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laurent-D%C3%A9sir%C3%A9_Kabila

      Hilander - 2011-12-05 15:33

      Thanks man, atleast a SA brother or sister who have a brain...

      Marion - 2011-12-05 15:33

      LOL... I totally missed the first name in this article... thanks for enlightening us...

  • vuyelwa.qinga - 2011-12-05 14:45

    I wonder why did they not remain in their country, totyi-toyi and insult their president and actually ensure that a free and fair process is ensured and democracy achieved in their country. Has our president become a free-for-all now?

      Hilander - 2011-12-05 15:37

      Mum Go to kitchen ...your brain is not enough feed for politic

      Grant - 2011-12-05 19:26

      I hope so...its about time the world sees what a doofus he is!

  • Mbadu - 2011-12-05 14:46

    south africa ha sent troup in the drc that are patroling our strrect whwre in the world have u seen soldier on the street before the final result of the election to be publish that shows that they cheated and they are trying to force the population to accept the result.

      Susanna - 2011-12-05 14:59

      Dear Mbadu, do you know if SA invested in the DRC, or does the DRC have lots of natural resources SA would like to exploit and therefore perhaps need Mr Kabila? Never realised we can be to other countries what the USA is to Iraq, Libia etc. Those countries are submerged in political turmoil/war to the USA's advantage.

      Hilander - 2011-12-05 16:43

      Thanks Mbadu, you getting the point BRO! I appreciate your sens of analysis...Hope more can think like you and see clear! WHERE IN THE WORLD ARMIES FROM DIFFERENTS COUNTRIES ARE COMMING TO PATROL THE STREET AFTER ELCTION RESULT PUBLISH?... they cheated and want to kill congolese who will protest and ZUMA sent the army to support his associate in crime!!! open your eyes guys...

  • Hilander - 2011-12-05 15:01

    GUYS IT IS SHAME HOW YOU CAN JUST SEE YOUR NOSE INSTEAD OF LOOKING FAR...YOUR XENOPHOBIC ATTITUD WILL NEVER HELP...THOSE PEOPLE ARE NOT PROTESTING AGAINST SA BUT AGAINST ZUMA SUPPORT TO KABILA IN THE CONGO. THOSE PEOPLE ARE NOT ILLEGAL IN SA, THEY ARE REFUGEES AND WANT TO GO BACK ASAP THEIR PROBLEM IS SOLVED BUT ZUMA IS ONE OF THE PEOPLE WHO ARE SUPPORTING THIS KILLER GOVERNMENT IN THE CONGO...PLEASE WE ALL AFRICAN AND BROTHERS ZUMA HIMSELF AND MANY OF YOUR LEADERS HAS BEEN REFUGEES...SHAME ON YOU GUYS, YOU NEED TO GROW IN YOUR THINKING AND SEE THE WORLD AS GLOBAL PLANET, NOT AS LIMPOMPO, MPUMALANGA...EISH SHAME GUESS THERE IS NO WHITE HERE, BLACKS KILL THEMSELVES AND HAVE A SHORT MEMORY...

  • Brian - 2011-12-05 15:08

    Didn't our Prezzie also back the wrong horse in Libya and upset the new ruling party?

      Hilander - 2011-12-05 16:44

      Zuma seem to be a supporter of murderers...

  • pumie.zana - 2011-12-05 15:14

    close the borders more are coming. let them go and sort out their mess!

      Dean Kenad - 2011-12-05 16:07

      Idiot why did many black south africans run to other countries during aparthied???? Why didnt they come back to sort out the mess??? The cowards waited till aparthied ended before they came back home

      Hilander - 2011-12-05 16:48

      Listen people in political fight you need to fight from 2 sides, indoor and out doors. Indoor : people are fighting the system from inside, many lost their lives, the outdoor use those murder to show the world how bad is the system... them the international communauty take sanction against that system... Apparthied was not stopped by people inside only but by international pression as well... remember when all the african country refused to participate in the olympic games when SOWETO CHILDREN WAS KILLED... guy watch your history... i dont think you should be the one who have to ignore the pain of oppressed people

      Grant - 2011-12-05 19:29

      Imagine if they had done the same to you pre-1994. You would think that "struggle people" would be more understanding. Pity the DRC president isn't white, hey? Maybe THEN you'd show some support. Much love! x

  • Refiloe - 2011-12-05 15:18

    See what you have done now President Zuma? You felt sorry for them, you allowed them in SA without proper documents, now we are offended because they do not have a respect to our president and our revolutionary house. They never played any part when we were fighting apartheid.

      Hilander - 2011-12-05 19:02

      No one felt sorry for any one Reliloe, we under UN and we have the right to be refugees everywhere in the world. Our country contribute as SA for those kind time of crisis for his citizen to be received in neighbor countries. Note that SA is the country in the world where refugees and badly treated, instead of paying us our money the government etablish a policy of giving paper to refugees to work and creat employement with the money what is not even true. Read more guys and learn about people who are living around you instead of having indoors wrong opinions. ANGOLIANS, RWANDIANS...have been refugees in the congo in the past i know what i am talking about and they have been better treated.

      Grant - 2011-12-05 19:29

      Idiot

      Hilander - 2011-12-06 09:44

      WE HAVE BEEN THER FOR YOU REFILOE, IF YOU DONT KNOW READ YOUR HISTORY, THE CONGO(DRC) WAS ZAIRE IN THAT TIME, you just to ignorant...

  • Thozi - 2011-12-05 15:53

    You know what they say guys, blood is thicker than water. We may have different opinions about our President, but we take exception when he is insulted by outsiders. We can do that unassisted. So please go home and sort your problems there before you encounrage zenophobia once again. Please go or accept our hospitality gracefully.

  • valkabeya - 2011-12-05 16:11

    thanks SA for showing us that we are foreigner here, we agree a i am one of them but is it right after 8 000 000 millions people have died in congo for the SA goverment which faught for freedom to support such a vampire? kabila is murderer . besides our mining sector is full of sa citizens in the katanga region i hope you wont be happy to hear that they are shooting them. all thoses vander merwe, van zyl, vander valt in the congo mining. We are one people with one mission PEACE IN SA, PEACE IN CONGO. Doc TSHISEKEDI is our Mandela western can go to hell all they want is someone to still with like these street president of kabila.

  • George - 2011-12-05 16:14

    At least they have the ball to protest against JZ even that it is in our country, They know JZ is corrupt and he is trying to corrupt there MP.They have showen there anger at the electoral fraud that is going on with the help of JZ. What have we done about or own info bill?

  • Hilander - 2011-12-05 16:48

    Listen people in political fight you need to fight from 2 sides, indoor and out doors. Indoor : people are fighting the system from inside, many lost their lives, the outdoor use those murder to show the world how bad is the system... them the international communauty take sanction against that system... Apparthied was not stopped by people inside only but by international pression as well... remember when all the african country refused to participate in the olympic games when SOWETO CHILDREN WAS KILLED... guy watch your history... i dont think you should be the one who have to ignore the pain of oppressed people

      cat.Flanigan - 2011-12-05 18:11

      although you have your rights to fight, all you do is fight with Violence! are you the same then? will you get any support from anyone with this behaviour? shame on the people attacking innocent people too try to make a point!!! there is no need for all this violence!

  • Tendani - 2011-12-05 17:43

    South Africans who were in exile were mainly in the designated camps not in the street of Kinshasa, unlike the congolese in SA. First of all the march to Luthuli House was illegal. In South Africa people dont just march without applying for the permit. This says a lot about Congolese in SA that they do not respect our laws and want to do as they wish. In fact most of the Congolese in SA classify themselves as French, I've never seen a French person with the dark skin like mine and who speak at African language and born in DRC. Congolese shall be black conscious before asking for an African solution

      Hilander - 2011-12-05 22:41

      Congolese shall be black conscious before asking for an African solution : Man you talking like a ignorant...In 1960 when congolese fought for independance where was the African conscious in Africa? One of the 1st african country to keep colonization out! Man Congolese history is heavy dont judge people you dont know pls

  • Msholozi - 2011-12-05 17:44

    this is a crime to accuse our great leader of nonsense, these people must be taken to trial

  • cat.Flanigan - 2011-12-05 18:04

    NO mention of the violent riot in Cape Town today in front of the French consulate?? Why the need for this violence? broken windows, kicked doors, grafitis on the walls, stones thrown at the staff!!! what is it going to give anyone?

      Hilander - 2011-12-05 22:37

      Man Congolese are not fighting you! They are stealing our freedom and our right to elect and president who can give us a change to leave your country and go home...We want to go home coz you guys hate us, but Zuma your president want to keep us here so you can keep on insulting us...Guys human right allow even foreign to protest, Zuma is supporting a criminal in the Congo can you get that...

  • Smanga Zwane - 2011-12-05 18:27

    They should be in their country ... Voting!!

  • Joseph - 2011-12-05 18:55

    South Africa did not create African dictators,DRC should deal with its problem and should not expect SA to be in the fore frant of their problems.Africa should wakeup.SA have its democracy which it is naturing with pride,Africa have a lot of dictators whom the people of those countries are naturing themselves.

  • Patrick - 2011-12-05 21:14

    Hilander, Thank you for your smart arguments and wisdom. I'm originally from DRC but have lived in the UK for decades now. I happen to read most of the comments on this article and conclude that ignorance is one of the greatest disease of South Africa. It is worrying that these people are introverted, stupid, racist and xenophobic. No country in the world is immune from immigration guys, even the poorest country on earth! I was in SA during the world cup and absolutely loved this country. It's a real shame to read these comments, because I have South African friends here, who are just great people. I travel a lot and have never experienced such hatred. I think it is really time things change in DRC, there is a great potential for those bright congolese doctors, engineers I have met in SA.

  • mxova2luv - 2011-12-06 21:58

    these people dont know how to say thank you, is this how they thank south africa for giving them a home after they ran out of their own country. this is bad very bad, if they protest in RSA who is voting in their country.. are they not aware that they should cast their vote if they want kabila to go?? bcoz protesting in RSA wont remove kabila instead they will be arrested here bcoz there is law and arder here in RSA so they must get their story right b4 they talk.

  • Francois - 2012-01-24 09:56

    Ooops, what a scenario. on 1 side ,u have people who know what is going on in the world and their society and the other hand u have people with a horizon limited to their own back yard. Hilander Mcleaod, I've read most of your comments on this article.You really show that you like your country. Not all south african have xenophobic views like the guys commenting on the article and the country is not lead by them and they will never go to the bottom of the issue to try and figure it out what really is happening. More than 5 million killed so far by the devastating war and instability in the DRC. We don't need the consent of the few xenophobic individuals commenting on the article to voice what is wrong. Only South African bright spirits understand the ramification of world events.

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