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Dad: Son killed for being gay

2012-06-07 08:02

Cape Town - The death of a Cape Town man, who was stabbed and set alight in Milnerton, was a hate crime, says his father.

Reverend Casper Daniels, 59, told the Daily Voice that he believed his son had been murdered because he was gay. His son’s injuries were concentrated around his private parts and legs.

The body of Neil Daniels, 36, was found in Milnerton on Monday night.

“I think it could have been a discrimination murder on gays because of the way it was carried out... The way they burnt his private parts - why do this to my child?” asked Reverend Daniels.

The reverend said his son had kept his sexual orientation secret and had only told him that he was gay.

He said his last words to him had been “be careful” and that he had become worried when his son didn’t attend Sunday morning church service as usual.

Comments
  • Carla - 2012-06-07 08:09

    RIP. Hope they find the perpetrators

  • Ryno - 2012-06-07 08:10

    and i am sure the guilty will not be caught

      herman.brummer - 2012-06-07 08:16

      Dream on?? Which planet, are you from, You live in Africa.

      Ryno - 2012-06-07 08:34

      @Herman - I know - was just trying to say something positive re this event

      Liesbet - 2012-06-07 09:43

      Well.. I think they will catch these guys. This is not an average robbery-gone-wrong.... Media 24, please keep us posted on this. (Sad to think that robbery has become part of our life and that we need a horrible thing like this, to catch our attention....)

      Squeegee - 2012-06-10 16:58

      I disagree Ryno. While our police force and justice system leave much to be desired, the fact is that our prisons are over full - these people did not book themselves in or purchase prison points. They were caught AND convicted.

  • nigel.vanysendyk - 2012-06-07 08:14

    barbarric

  • arne.verhoef - 2012-06-07 08:17

    With so much pride freedom of choice, south africans don't allow others that freedom? Ridiculous, may your soul rest in peace

  • Andre - 2012-06-07 08:26

    We can criticize the act of being gay, according to the Bible, but it is not for us to judge the person. Only God (JHWH) can do that!

      TheMark - 2012-06-07 09:39

      Andre, That's secondhand tripe you are serving here...

      Allister Chequenton - 2012-06-07 10:04

      Guess who used the bible in order to justify this horrible deed done to this guy? Who cherry-picked a passage of scripture in order to pacify themselves into the correctness of what happened? Now we are even allowed to choose which part (New or Old) is law. You either take all of it or nothing at all. My wish is that nobody ever becomes a victim of such horrible crime or be a father that has to live with this being done to his child. How low do we have to sink in order to do this to another human being?

      jackal666.daniel - 2012-06-07 10:33

      So being gay is wrong because your god said so?! What the hell is wrong with you dude???

      gert.dupreez - 2012-06-07 11:43

      Because you serve a God of Hate! People has been killed in the name of God now for 3000 years. Can't you see religion is a man made oppression system to control the gullible ignoramus. Wake up. Organised Religion should be banned.

      fred.fraser.12 - 2012-06-07 15:51

      God is love.

  • amelia.basson - 2012-06-07 08:27

    Why can't all South Africans just live and let live? It used to be our diversity that made us such an colourful, interesting country ....

  • Charl - 2012-06-07 08:28

    Bring back the death penalty! Kill, and you will be killed in return. Our legal system is not scaring anyone off anymore.

      Dave - 2012-06-07 09:13

      You don't teach people that killing is wrong by killing them. duh

      edwardsch - 2012-06-07 09:26

      @Dave. Agree but in this way you can stop the b@st@rd from becoming a repeat offender!!!!

      jody.beggs - 2012-06-07 09:43

      Two strikes , first time jail sentence , second time death! Mod justice , whole mob needs to be charged the same... Sounds religiously motivated to me... Damn the man.

      wayne.kukard - 2012-06-07 14:23

      Our legal system isn't scary, it free food and boarding!

  • patrickflynn73 - 2012-06-07 08:29

    WHen will these homophobic hate crimes be stamped out.. its ignorance. Maybe its time the Minister of Health or some Government dept starting teaching the people about same-sex attraction, scientific facts, theories, etc. Its time we embrace the gay community as part of our society! You cannot change one's sexuality by "corrective rape" or torture! www.iamgay.co.za

  • janalbert.vandenberg - 2012-06-07 08:30

    Reiterating my post from yesterday: While the legality of same-sex marriage brings hope to some, the backlash behind "closed" doors is truly horrific: www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/05/30/aint-no-homos-gonna-make-it-to-heaven_n_1555735.html -- I really don't think people are born with inherent hatred, but clearly you can teach them how to hate from a *very* early age... Maybe the world *is* messed up, but I fear the sharing of love between two adults is *not* really the cause.

  • Jaco Joubert - 2012-06-07 08:37

    DISPICABLE!!! How anybody could live with themselves after doing something so unthinkable, so cruel and so heartless is just completely beyond me.

      Dianne - 2012-06-07 09:53

      Anyone capable of committing such a crime, is firstly, not human, and secondly have no conscience. Very sad :)

  • www.hephzibah.wapsite.me - 2012-06-07 08:37

    Personally i'm anti homosexual.But i still love all as God does.No one deserves to die no matter their religious or sexual preference.BUT i do personally believe that murderers and rapists should get the death penalty.This is a barbaric act by barbarians

      janalbert.vandenberg - 2012-06-07 08:46

      Don't lie: the "hate the sin, love the sinner" line is so old, and is utter BS. You are merely distancing yourself from your brothers that also say they "love the sinner" until after dark, where they line up to beat up gay people... I've heard all the lines "because this will set them straight", "best they get sorted in this life or else" www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/05/30/aint-no-homos-gonna-make-it-to-heaven_n_1555735.html If anything, *you* are the very example of where these horrendous crimes originate from... If not in action, then in thought.

      www.hephzibah.wapsite.me - 2012-06-07 09:37

      @QF.Thats strange.We were on the border in the early 80's our coy's chef was gay who told us openly he was gay.yet we treated him like one of the guys.not once did we abuse him or insult him behind his back although we were all heterosexual.

      Phoenix - 2012-06-07 10:05

      Who acres if you are so-called anti-homosexual? It doesn't change the fact that the world is FULL of gay people, always have been and always will be. Deal with it.

      atholl.hay - 2012-06-07 13:34

      Gay people are born into and belong to every society in the world. We are all ages, all races, all faiths. We are doctors and teachers, farmers and bankers, soldiers and athletes. And whether you know it or whether you acknowledge it, we are your family, your friends and your neighbours. Being gay is not a Western invention. It is a human reality.

      fred.fraser.12 - 2012-06-07 15:52

      You can't be "anti" someone and love them. Doesn't make sense.

      arthur.hugh - 2012-06-07 15:57

      I don't see any gay people, I just see people. Religion can kiss my hetro butt, and bigoted homophobic religious cretins with intelligence akin to plankton should stay in their trailers and leave the real world to real people (does not apply to open minded religious people who do not judge others).

      janalbert.vandenberg - 2012-06-07 16:20

      My apologies Hephzibah; but my point is that whenever there is a group of individuals that collectively are anti-homosexual, when groupthink kicks in, it does not take much to go from merely anti-homosexual to *violently* opposed to homosexuality. I know of straight men that were *not* really that anti-gay, who, in the moment due to being egged on by mates, ended up hurting a gay bloke (they ended up urinating on the poor guy). The question is this: where does all this *begin* ? My suggestion is you were somehow *taught* to be anti-homosexual; either that, or you are simply disgusted by it (the so-called 'yuck' factor). If you are disgusted by it, then fair on you, although I think you'd probably not turn violent *on your own*; the question then becomes how long does it take for groupthink to take over?

      www.hephzibah.wapsite.me - 2012-06-07 16:46

      @janalbert.Apology accepted.No hard feelings. I understand what u are saying .

      stefan.grundlingh - 2012-06-07 16:47

      I seriously doubt that you love as God does. First you admit your prejudice of gay people and secondly you approve of the death penalty. I do agree that the act was carried out by barbarians and believe they should be punished, but think twice before equating what you consider to be love with the love of God. I do not know what god you claim to know, but given your understanding of love may I suggest you consider the teachings of Jesus...

      stefan.grundlingh - 2012-06-07 16:52

      Making an anti-homosexual statement where the article describes a father losing his son due to anti-homosexuals is simply poor taste. Maybe Jesus can help you with that as well.

  • Sam - 2012-06-07 08:40

    So where does the line of intolerance, hate and bigotry end? I hope u homophobes are \happy\ with yourselves. But most importantly, people must stop spewing hateful words with their mouth because things like these end up happening.

      Wesley Bischoff - 2012-06-07 10:06

      Buy bull lol funny stuff

      DuToitCoetzee - 2012-06-07 10:15

      Come on zaathiest. Jody needs your support!!!! He is getting his rightful thumbs done for generalizing with his statements. Please help him. He is lonely!!!

  • jaysonpaul.beckwith - 2012-06-07 08:41

    I don't get why people feel that we should not reinstate the death penalty. Does barbaric crimes like this just fall under another crime statistic? These monsters, if caught, will spend a couple of years in jail with a warm bed, three meals a day, clothes, tv you name it. Is that justice? Wait mabey we should just give them a good old slap on the wrist and send them on there merry ways. This poor guy was brutally killed,, for what,,, for being gay??? These bastards should hang by there necks.

      Rob - 2012-06-07 14:29

      Now here is an idea...divest the decision about the death penalty to the Provinces. Some interesting outcomes possible!

  • Jaco - 2012-06-07 08:42

    Man, this is terrible. I think the majority of our country does not have any knowledge on what human rights are.... This makes me so sad. Rather kill the child rapists, etc.

  • Rob - 2012-06-07 08:52

    I wonder what the killers are thinking right now ? Are they proud, remoresful or just indifferent to the incident ? Yet when they appear in court, we will hear of their harsh, impoverished upbringing and life of drugs etc, etc. There is never a good enough reason to take a life unless in self defence and I hope this lot sit for years in years & reflect on their actions. Disgusting !

      Rob - 2012-06-07 10:41

      Thumbs down must be from the killers friends or supporters ! Or those who think it is just to kill, if you come from an impoverished background & take drugs.

  • Quantronium - 2012-06-07 09:37

    This is just wrong!!

  • lydonmcg - 2012-06-07 09:39

    Disgusting. It's pathetic that we have people running around concerning themselves with the lives of others to such a disturbing degree.

  • Wesley Bischoff - 2012-06-07 09:52

    Condolences to Neil's family and friends. I hope the scumbags get caught.

  • Lee Lilith Van Coller - 2012-06-07 10:10

    the family wl be in my thoughts. i hope the person who did this get caught. and i don't think that every year a gay person is killed because they are gay in cape town, cape town just have a lot of gay people.

  • Tolo - 2012-06-07 10:12

    I think this is the results of the house of traditional leaders Holomisa....no 1 deserve 2 be killed no 1

      ferdinand.lategan - 2012-06-07 11:04

      Traditional teachings for the sake of tradition with little or no Knowledge of why we are the way we are and who we are, leads to intollerance. this includes the church.( a little knowledge is dangerous)The love of GOD is unconditional and it is time that people with huge platforms who teach half truths take responsibility for what they teach. No family should have to suffer such loss and pain. My heart goes out to you as a family.

      mpho.twala2 - 2012-06-07 11:40

      tht ris true my little brother is gay nd my grandmther its hard to accept hm tht is gay.

      Freedom - 2012-06-07 13:31

      @Mpho, did you little bro ask to be gay?

      Sharon - 2012-06-07 14:09

      @mpho - some people are born this way,they did not choose to be gay,we must accept them the way they are

      arthur.hugh - 2012-06-07 16:01

      He's still your brother, just love him for who he is boet :-)

  • briana.scott - 2012-06-07 10:33

    What is wrong with people!?!

      arthur.hugh - 2012-06-07 16:03

      Dunno :-( I can't fathom a rational human being doing something like this.

  • jeffrey.mnisi - 2012-06-07 10:44

    stop exargerating, in USA they are now facing canibalism, and yet I condemn this acts. for Neil, i am very sorry

      Rob - 2012-06-07 10:53

      Dont worry about the USA jeffery. Worry about SA, here & now !

      Freedom - 2012-06-07 13:29

      Jeffrey, dont worry about south africa worry about Nigeria were you from and say out of SA your people is taken away our work!!!

      Sharon - 2012-06-07 14:11

      @ jeffrey,the whole world is screwed up at present and its scary thinking of our kids future

  • Freedom - 2012-06-07 13:08

    this is what will continue to happen if Gays and Lesbians are not protected by the constitution. God please protect the citizens of south africa and guide our leaders to see what we the commoners are faced with everyday, while they are protected by high walls of the constitution. Citizens of south africa we need to step up,everyone deserves the right to life except those that have taken life. Bring back the death penalty dont left the SoB that committed this crime live in jail and receive 2 meals and shelter, while we convert our homes to prisons to protect ourselves from this criminals that have no meaning in society.

  • twellington3 - 2012-06-07 13:20

    These are all christian groups who perpetrate hate for homosexuals!! Christians are the biggest institution that should be blamed for homophobia

  • Maria - 2012-06-07 14:29

    Rev. Daniels - I know how you feeling right now, I've been there two months ago- two questions you asking yourself - Why him? Why did he die like that? "Leave everything in God's hands Sir - Neal is in good hands now - let him go, I know it's too early for that - You in my prayers Sir!!!

  • Maria - 2012-06-07 14:31

    Gay/Lesbian - what's that gonna do with me??? who said those people must be killed???

  • hugo.lategan - 2012-06-07 15:19

    Our thoughts and prayers are with you!

  • Dianne - 2012-06-07 16:20

    For goodness sake - LIVE AND LET LIVE. Some of the nicest people I know are gay. This crime committed here is absolutely horrific and the perpetrators should be hanged by the neck until dead, dead, dead.

  • keith.oosthuizen - 2012-06-07 17:33

    Sincerest condolences to Rev Daniels and his family. May Neil rest in peace. Unfortunately, even Metro Cops have been known to attack LGBT people in Cape Town. This only compounds the problem by entrenching homophobia. The problem is exacerbated when investigations into such heinous activities are blocked by their leadership ... let's all unite in speaking out and fight homophobia on all fronts.

      Dakey - 2012-06-07 20:50

      Sorry Keith, Heterosexual people get killed all the time in South Africa and no-one ever claims it is 'heterophobic' in nature. Rev. Daniel's statement is a bit contradictory considering he said his son had told no-one but him that he was gay. Let's unite against CRIME in this country regardless of the sexual orientation of the victim.

      atholl.hay - 2012-06-08 08:36

      @Dakeyras: You completely miss the point. In homophobic crimes people are attacked ONLY because of their sexual orientation. Just because he had told no-one else he was gay doesn't mean that others could not find out or assume it. It is however possible that assumptions have been made by the grief-stricken father.

  • Nompumelelo - 2012-06-07 19:34

    My condolences to the bereaved family. When is this senseless humiliation and killing of harmless people going to STOP? Does the difference in sexual orientation warrant this intense hatred? Why??????

  • Dakey - 2012-06-07 20:39

    Not sure why Rev. Daniels is convinced it is a hate crime if no-one was aware of his sexual orientation. That said my condolences to the family. It is terrible how callous murders are in this country.

      Dakey - 2012-06-07 20:53

      Also just want to point out that Dahmer, a homosexual himself did not struggle with homophobia when he killed his gay victims.

  • mpho.phawe - 2012-06-07 21:20

    my condolences,hope thy find a pepetrator and bring thm 2 jstice as soon as possible.

  • brionyl.french - 2012-06-08 05:51

    So much hate here

  • Maria - 2012-06-08 08:11

    @Lara - I wonder if it was your son/relative, would you be asking the same question? They are still human beings after all - God - I mean only God gave life and nobody has a right to take LIFE period!!!!and next time when there is death involved - please keep your comments to yourself - Neal is dead, can't hear anything - you only hurting the Family now and I don't expect that from a woman.

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