Death more fitting for Lindley killers - NPA official

2011-07-28 23:25

Bloemfontein - "Cruel, barbaric, gruesome and unnecessary."

That's how Judge George Wright described the murder of a Free State family on their farm, before sentencing the attackers to a total of eight life sentences and an additional 176 years.

Attie Potgieter, his wife Wilna and 2-year old Wilmien were killed on their farm Tweefontein, outside Lindley, in December 2010.

The spokesperson for the NPA in the Free State, Medupe Simasiku, said the sentence was the harshest allowed in terms of the Constitution.

"But , humanly speaking, a death sentence would probably have been more appropriate," he added.

"They could have taken everything they wanted to, without killing the people. Why the mother and the baby?"

It was not necessary to kill the family, said Judge Wright in the Free State High Court.

Paul van Staden, Wilna's dad, and his daughter Susan Nortjé, were in court during sentencing.

Nortjé was extremely upset that the youngest of the killers, Diphapang Motaung, was given a more lenient sentence.

He was a minor at the time of the murders.

"He is just as guilty!

"Had Wilmien lived, he would have been out on parole by the time she turned 20."

  • Joe - 2011-07-28 23:54

    time for vigilante justice to rule south africa, because GOD knows, the ANC troop ain't up to it...

      Grimmy75 - 2011-07-29 01:22

      Gangsta, yo, you in the wrong hood bru, move to the Bronx! Somebody talking the way you do must relate with what happned here? Only reason why you would defend such cruelty!

      SAFCan - 2011-07-29 04:38

      Gangster from 1993, you sound like one of those typical low life pill popping scum bags that hang out on street corners waiting to do crime so you can purchase your next fix? You dudes think you look so cool with your brother from the hood fashion. They should put you in the slammer with that scum that committed these crimes. Let's see how you enjoy being the bitch of some HIV positive low life!

      Ascendo Tuum - 2011-07-29 05:41

      @Gangster 'speaking' in that way shows your total ignorance and complete lack of education and you should do the world a favour and remove yourself from it.

      Dan Grey - 2011-07-29 07:04

      @Gangsta Imagine the killers were white. I'll be willing to bet that the death penalty would then not have been sufficient and how I know this, is that you are an enormous racist.

      Tantrum - 2011-07-29 07:14

      With you all the way !!

      Wired - 2011-07-29 08:44

      what did gangsta say? its been removed

      hello.1 - 2011-07-29 08:49

      these postings bring out the worst in people.... a faceless and nameless barrage of words... strewn across a grieve stricken field... where is your sense of common courtesy....

      Leon Groenewald - 2011-07-29 12:21

      Too true Joe, VIGILANTE! We can not trust any arm of the state and we sure don't want to give them the power to impose the death penalty. I trust one man and his followers armed with the pursuit of justice much more than the ANC or any of their subsidiaries.

      LBS - 2011-07-29 16:45

      So many times I see posts attacking a person, like Gangster here, but cannot see Gangster's comment. Was it removed?

  • GrannyC - 2011-07-29 00:26

    The death sentence would have been too good for these bastards. They should now be tortured in jail for the rest of their lives. As for the so called minor, he should have received the same sentence as he will come of in a few years time and do the same again and we don't want his sort released into the community. - 2011-07-29 08:47

      I would rather have them dead than maybe becoming one of the big guys in jail and enjoying life living on our money.

      Wired - 2011-07-29 09:16

      Heres a few pro's and con's of the death sentence.. If we were to bring back the death penalty, the pros would be less overcrowding in our prisons and less burden on tax payers money. We would be rid of people like this in our world and people would think twice before commiting such a crime.. The cons would be that we would be playing god... so heres a solution i think would work.. Considering these bastards took someones life, they should now have to feel that they no longer want to live themselves.. they must not be sent to a nice cushy prison with beds, food, health care, the chance to vote, tv ect.. there must be a special prison built just for murders and mass rapists.. no beds (they can sleep on a cold concrete floor), the lowest nutritional food available..bread and water only. Hard labour everyday without rest until they fall down from exaustion (breaking stone with hammers to make concrete for roads and save the country a cost).. and every now and then, given the opportunity to take their own life or continue with their daily routine without any chance of bail.. They can interview these prisoners and let it be aired on SABC as to how crap life for them is, and people can learn to behave in a humanly way for fear of this..

      ProsAndCons - 2011-07-29 09:22

      @Wired. Now there's a solution I agree wholeheartedly with.

      Dayat Atime - 2011-07-29 09:47

      @ Wired This is where the problem comes in. Despite what they have done, far too many people believe they still deserve their basic human rights and punishment in the terms you state is against these rights. How can you expect us to respect your rights when you cannot do the same for others? This should become Part 1 of the Constitution now, RULE 1: If you disregard another's human rights, you yourself then forfeit your own rights!

      K_za - 2011-07-29 09:56

      I agree---death is too easy for them. Send them to prison and let them become someone's bitch. I always thought the death sentence would be a deterrent but even necklacing in the townships doesn't work anymore.

      Yislaaik - 2011-07-29 13:43

      Granny, I agree, death is too good for them. And life being tortured is also too good. What I would like to see is them being tortured for 10 years knowing that at the end of the ten years they die in the way they killed their victims.

      LBS - 2011-07-29 16:48

      I'm with Wired. Prison these days is a very good alternative to living on the streets. So why worry?

  • Grimmy75 - 2011-07-29 01:15

    Talk does not help, not even petitions. As Christian I dont think "vigilante justice" is the answer and not what most of our faiths allow, but what about making a prisoner choose between forever in jail or a death sentence?

      Wormtongue - 2011-07-29 03:28

      Bizzare suggestion. They would almost surely choose life because suicide would remain an option until the end

      Mr D - 2011-07-29 03:53

      Vigilante justice is what will be on ur mine should it be ur daughter and son not to mention the little girl of 2. God will be with ME when I take them out and He will be with ME when I take out the cops when they come for ME

      JedEye - 2011-07-29 06:16

      Vigilante justice is exactly what I would pursue as the family of these victims. I would actually be happy with the fact that the youngest ape is being let out early - making him vulnerable to a more appropriate end.

      TamaraSays - 2011-07-29 06:36

      Let their families choose... with the stipulation that if they choose prison THEY pay for their family member's stay. Why should the tax payer (which means every South African who buys ANYTHING) pay for these animals to be kept alive?

      Worldwise - 2011-07-29 07:09

      So Tamara, you say that if your brother commits a crime you are prepared to pay for his stay in jail? What do we do in the case of orphans then?

      TamaraSays - 2011-07-29 07:24

      Worldwise, I'm not talking about petty criminals - I'm talking about butchers like this. Take a look at China - they not only execute murderers, they charge their families for the bullets! Not exactly human rights friendly, but then, what these people did isn't either.

      Leon Groenewald - 2011-07-29 12:30

      As a Christian; what about as a part of the human race? Christianity does not own morality; the moral own it. The moral is any person who opposes the taking of a human life and as a scientifically minded moral person; we should remove the murderous from our gene pool. Don't bring an invisible friend into this, bring logic; because we would have been 500 years more advanced had it not been for christianity and the dark ages. In part blame your religion and all other dogmas for where we are. If government and justice have failed us; let them with the means, the will and the sense of humanity protect us. Whispering obscure words to an invisible friend will not help us.

      THE.SRG - 2011-07-29 15:58

      damn straight Leon!

  • Tjonki - 2011-07-29 03:14

    If I had my way, I would given them a 10 year sentence, which would consist of five years solitary with no privileges, year six and seven in a maximum security prison, year eight and nine back to solitary and their last few months back to a maximum security prison with the rights to see their families and friends, only to be lethally injected on the anniversary of the killings. Their demons will haunt them every day, they will beg to die every day and it will be prolonged. Let’s be honest with ourselves, the majority of S.A people is S** scared of the Death Penalty, they will have no brothers, sisters or comrades left...spade is a spade!

      Leon Groenewald - 2011-07-29 12:32

      In a just society, I would have agreed.

  • Roy - 2011-07-29 05:35

    Rubbish like these people who kill family's should not even appear in courts. The "Goverment"should bring back the death penalty in cases of murder and the people of this country should let the people who govern the country know.May these criminals sffer for the rest of their lives."B--tards"

      Worldwise - 2011-07-29 07:14

      If you were the wrongly accused, wouldn't you prefer a court appearance to prove your innocence? The correctly accused also deserve a court appearance to prove their guilt beyond any reasonable doubt and for sentencing by a trained person. People like you would very likely kill innocent accused. Thats why we have courts.

      Bloedrivier - 2011-07-29 08:18

      @Worldwise.......OMG you are so fckd up,you cant help yourself!!!!! When you get up from the toilet next time, look into the bowl and see your reflection!!!

      Boychild - 2011-07-29 08:49

      @Worldwise - grow a spine..... Correctional Services are smiling because at Nominal Incarceration Rates they have just been allocated a Budget of nearly R 30 mil per sentencee

      Leon Groenewald - 2011-07-29 12:34

      Do you want to put a weapon as final as the death penalty into the hands of a government as corrupt as the ANC's? It's time to weapon up for ourselves guys (legal or not) our fate is in our own hands.

      williamq - 2011-07-29 15:51

      @Bloedrivier - shame you should use that name. For intelligence is not something you are blessed with, your comments display barbaric tendencies which your forefathers would have been ashamed of. What Worldwise suggests is what civilization is about, and you are ignorant of that.

  • Jon JJ - 2011-07-29 05:57

    Julius Malema's brave warriors kill babies as well...seems as though "boer" means men, women and babies. Time for Malema to face charges of genocide as he is the main instigator of the murders and robberies taking place. He is directly responsible for the acts of the cowards representing him!!

      Oukoos - 2011-07-29 06:32

      As soos as Malema is the President of SA, he will get them out of jail and appoint them in some or other senior government position

  • ProsAndCons - 2011-07-29 06:08

    As reprehensible as these crimes were, and as much as my heart bleeds for the victims, and tyheir families and friends, I still can't justify the death sentence to myself. My heart screams, "Kill them legally!", but my logic calms me down. Death sentence is merely a revenge factor, and has never ever anywhere in the world been seen to reduce such crimes. The fact is, once a human (barely, I agree), has crossed that line to the ultimate act, no amount of future threat of the death sentence is going to stop them in their tracks. The best we can do, is lock them away from society for life, and hope that the unspeakable is done to them every day in prison - that it becomes "Hell on Earth". I know I'm in for a severe keyboard-lashing, but there it is - my opinion.

      Ryan Tunney - 2011-07-29 06:13

      There's 6 billion people on the planet and you would like to have cockroaches like this spared? Perhaps you should take your head out of your ass and give it some thought. Kill the scum and move on. They have no value and would probably be more useful as fertiliser.

      JedEye - 2011-07-29 06:20

      I disagree. Death penalty has severely reduced crime levels in many parts of the world. In SA, criminals are not afraid of prison due to the fact that a.) the justuce system normally struggles to sentence them b.) they evade long sentences through bribes etc c.) hey, at least there's food & a bed in prison. No, they deserve a life of torture... being kept alive only by life-support.

      apie - 2011-07-29 07:32

      Did these scum give any thought to their victims? Did they show any compassion? Why should their feelings be considered? I will wait and see what your reaction will be when your son/daughter and wife/boyfriend are murdered by a sub human species. Street justice. The police are useless. Hand these scum to the families. Crime will drop drastically in this shytehole of a country.

      Lang Henning - 2011-07-29 07:54

      While I agree that the death penalty could be considered base revenge, it would also serve to cleanse the community of asocial elements. In my opinion some creatures do not deserve to live. Rather spend the money for those prisons where they are kept, on hospitals and schools.

      Baddy - 2011-07-29 08:19

      I am very sorry but you have absolutely no idea what you are talking about. "Death sentence is merely a revenge factor, and has never ever anywhere in the world been seen to reduce such crimes"..... Plz!!!! If you go to any country that enforces this law you'll see that the murder and serious crimes rate is drastically lower than ours. Would you steal something in Saudi?? I didn't think so, cause if you steal there they chop your hand off. I think the best way to sort this crap out in our country is to shock the living bejees out of them. Shock them until their eyes pop out!!

      allie - 2011-07-29 08:22

      Prosandcons,why don`t you go and argue this one with Obama.After all he gave Osama the death sentence and rightly so.I would rather put an in-jail contract on these scumbags,there will be a lot of takers.Give the money to the hitman`s family and the taxpayer scores.

      ProsAndCons - 2011-07-29 09:00

      I'm enjoying these responses. Debate is cool. The point I was making (and still am), is that as much as I would scream ,"Hang 'em!" if it WAS my family butchered like this, I have actually done the research, which, I gather, the previous respondents have not. My intellect tends to overpower my emotions, and I would not be honest with myself if I changed my OPINION. I have not, in any case, lambasted anyone who IS in favour of the death sentence, I merely gave MY opinion. There is no need to insult someone with a differing opinion. If the death sentence was so effective, why are there then still crimes committed throughout the 'civilized?' world where the death penalty is instituted? Surely reason would say that those countries should have a close to zero serious crime rate? POint is, as I stated earlier, an emotional response to shocking crimes by screaming for the reinstitution of the death penalty will not change the country's laws (South Africa's that is), and will not change the verifiable facts, scientific studies, psychological make-up of criminals or any other factor that goes into determing the best deterrent available to a modern civilised environment. Still and all, my wish and prayers are for this sort of thing to become footnotes to our history, and no longer actual fact. RIP to all victims of violent crime. I wish I had a solution...

      gallus - 2011-07-29 09:24

      Revenge is a legitimate reason. It balances the books - eye for an eye, tooth for a tooth. Our forefathers believed in it - blood feuds. When centralised government came the king claimed the sole right to this to bring some order about. The state now has the exclusive power. But the people still feel that justice should be done and that the punishment should fit the crime. A life for a life.

      Lang Henning - 2011-07-29 10:47

      ProsAndCons, I agree, crimes are still being committed even where the death penalty is implemented, however, they are not such vicious murders as the one under discussion. I cannot help but feel someone capable of this kind of barbarism should be removed from society, permanently.

      Leon Groenewald - 2011-07-29 12:38

      They are part of a culture who takes strength from the death of their enemies. Take your logical western mind and apply it to problems of interstellar travel and energy solutions. We have lost touch with the primal and the civilized will never survive the primal unless he is willing to defend himself on a primal level as well. Would you wonder around Lions without a weapon? Well; your warped logic is making you do just that.

  • Oukoos - 2011-07-29 06:29

    In the lyrics "shoot the boer, Malema urges murders of this nature. These black guys just follow “orders” from the big boss, too stupid to realise that they, and not Malema, are going to pay the price.

      The Wonderer - 2011-07-29 11:00

      What ever happened to that trial against Malema where he was in court & we saw it on TV? Do you know the outcome?

  • HardHitter - 2011-07-29 06:33

    Totally agree with the judge. Hang them, together with poachers and drug dealers and its the end of those crimes.

  • GinSA1 - 2011-07-29 06:34

    Fight for a Referendum on the return of the Death Penalty - sign the following : If a Judge and the NPA are saying this, we must use our voices

  • amanda.terblans - 2011-07-29 06:38

    Malema should be sentenced for this too after all they are doing exactly as he instructed. Bring back the death sentence !!!!!

  • Dan Grey - 2011-07-29 07:02

    This trial is a shining example of a hate crime and it shows that black racism is alive and well. Imagine for a second that the killers were white and the victims black. A dead black baby, killed by evil white racists. The whole world would have been up in arms. Hypocrites! Blacks are much, much, much more racist than whites and the proof lies in their actions.

      Lauren - 2011-07-29 08:21

      Dan, do you want everything else that went with Apartheid to be meted out to you and your family too, or are you being selective in your request?

      P!NK - 2011-07-29 08:23

      They would then be giving back the land that was taken from the farmers in the first place - not likely to happen, but like the way you think Dan

      BOFFINBOB - 2011-07-29 08:34

      DAN & RYAN....100%...Spot on. It amazes me that there are still " White Liberals " out there & on this site that would disagree with you or find your factual & therefore truthfull comments offensive. These people have blinkers on & need to seriously wake up.

      BOFFINBOB - 2011-07-29 08:37

      Ironic that MALEMA was apparently attending the trial of a white man who shot his black neighbour over some disagreement & NOT attending this trial / sentancing or offering his sincere condolances to the family. Come to think of it fat boy should probably have been in the dock with these murdering scum as he is guilty of enticing this kind of black on white racial hatred & murder !

      allie - 2011-07-29 08:39

      Dan if we should get such a homeland,we will prosper again,our own police,defence force own economy univarsities,hospitals etc of quality.Blacks will never allow this because they can`t handle competition.And they know it won`t take long to become a Somalia or even a Nigeria themselves.And who will they blame for their failures if we are not around.

      Papsak - 2011-07-29 08:59

      @Dan Grey, what about white afrikaner racist farmers who kill black people including their own staff? If you want this thing to be an insensitive racial exchange we can do that. As a black south african i was just as shocked and moved by the senseless of this family including their 2year old. But if you want to offend and insult all black people, please say so. I will wait for your response. Please don't disappear.

      BOFFINBOB - 2011-07-29 09:11

      Papsak....Rather not..... you say that Afrikaaner farmers kill their staff, what country are you living in ? Over 3,500 murdered white farmers & their family members have died @ the hands of black trash in the past few years. Insensitive racial exchange ??? I find those stats very offensive indeed. The time for worrying about " insensitive " racial exchanges has long since passed. Facts are facts & your race is responsible for 99% of the heinous deeds committed in this country daily. If I was black, I would be ashamed of the behaviour of my fellow blacks !

  • Proudly SA - 2011-07-29 07:09

    This was an horrific crime and long jail well deserved; however perpetrators are probably poorly educated and when they see likes of Malema dancing around advocating "Kill the farmer" and seemingly endorsed by senior ANC members, quite easily they take it literally.

      Leon Groenewald - 2011-07-29 12:50

      Proudly SA - Proud of our Roads?, No, perhaps proud of our crime rate? No, perhaps proud of how many murders occur here (yes, I do seperate that from normal crimes)? No, Perhaps proud of our GEP or GED? No, then what are you proud of? Just proud of buying into the Democratic lie? So you are proud of a rapidly failing government with failing policies that caused a failed economy without the means to provide shelter, food or healthcare for it's citizens and without the incentive to create work that would sustain any of the above. I'm glad you are proud! It makes you happy! Yet I can not help but question your mental faculties and thus negate your comment all together,

      Lang Henning - 2011-07-29 13:30

      There is still our heritage and culture we can be proud of. Not all of it, definitely not, but show me one nation with no black marks on its history sheets.

  • ShakaN - 2011-07-29 07:14

    Do not trust anyone, no matter how long they have been working for you, its been proven hundreds of times over by the police that 99% of the time the perpetrator of the murder is a respectful "trusted employee". Trust None of your Employee's

      allie - 2011-07-29 08:42

      And don`t allow cellphones on your property.I have seen photos of all my home security on one of their cellphones once.

  • Gary - 2011-07-29 07:16

    They will surely die of AIDS if they do not have it already, sub specie and Big Daddy will be waiting for them as they enter their new home, bend for the soap boys

      Leon Groenewald - 2011-07-29 12:53

      Gary divine intervention is what the weakling praise for. Real men must be willing to stand up for what the believe in. I'm sure you are a real man; but a reminder is required every now and again.

  • Ian - 2011-07-29 07:17

    would love to see this case tried in the great state of texas, now us tax payers have to keep these bastards alive that is before pricks like the fat jelli tot spends it on his stinking luxuries

      Leon Groenewald - 2011-07-29 12:54

      As much as I hate America; I have to admit; even the State of Texas is less corrupt than our ANC government.

      THE.SRG - 2011-07-29 16:50

      A Leon....where do I register!

  • apie - 2011-07-29 07:24

    A more appropriate death would be an extended period of torture and then being starved to death.

      Leon Groenewald - 2011-07-29 12:55

      By the family; not this corrupt state!

  • Dicta - 2011-07-29 07:26

    Bring back the death penalty. It is not revenge. If you take a life while committing a crime you loose all rights to life and to be alive. It is a case of the most cost effective way of being removed from society in order to protect society from the threat. If you put your hand in the fire you WILL burn. Action = consequence. Applicable to all races.

      allie - 2011-07-29 08:45

      What is scary about the death penalty is the verdict of the"spill a drink on Zum"by that AA BITCHJUDGE.

      Leon Groenewald - 2011-07-29 12:56

      I have to agree with Dicta; we can not wish to place the power of the death penalty into the hands of the ANC government.

  • Dan - 2011-07-29 07:27

    So basically all of them will be roaming our streets again in 16-18 years. Life Sentence means absolutely nothing in SA, with good behaviour they will be out in 16-18 years.

      shaun.cousins1 - 2011-07-29 09:08

      off with their heads....why should my tax money go to these thugs to keep them alive

  • Prof - 2011-07-29 07:45

    News24 is not writting about an idiot who nearly killed a neighbour in the Eastern Cape. An idiot by the name of Greyvenstein. I call this biased reporting.

  • Wilhelm F Springhorn - 2011-07-29 07:48

    There is a culture in South Africa of revenge and hatred. It will only breed more hatred, more murders and more misery. I hope after such horrid deaths Attie, Wilna and Wilmien will rest in Peace - we should defend that peace. Talking of revenge and vigilante justice is fuelling hatred and thus more murder; and a total lack of respect for those who are murdered and those who are living.

  • LeDuke - 2011-07-29 07:49

    If I was the family i would now turn to the courts to try Malema for inciting the murders. Its time to call a spade a spade and get the culprit 'Malema' and every ANC memeber who sang along with the 'Kill the boer song' to own up to their culpibility in the farm murders that are hapening. 'Its a anti aparthied sruggle song' IS NOT AN APROPIATE EXCUSE. MURDERING BASTADOS!!!!!!!

  • Fredster69 - 2011-07-29 07:52

    The question remains, if these thugs knew that there was indeed a death sentence in place, would they have done this ?

  • Nesomaniac - 2011-07-29 07:53

    Bring back the death penalty for all murders - especially those involving little children and police. Murdering scum don't deserve to breathe our oxygen!

  • Amos Mcinga - 2011-07-29 08:05

    @Medupe, You certainly did not check your boundaries before you made the "death sentence" statement.You cannot represent the NPA and utter emotional statements that tempers with our constitution."Death Sentence" does not exist in democratic SA. Your utterance seeks to undermine that. I will leave it up to you, you're supposed to know better.

      Riaan - 2011-07-29 08:20

      He can actually. Freedom of speech still applies, as far as I know. Even a judge in recent years said that he would have given the death penalty but the constitution disallowed it.

  • wanda - 2011-07-29 08:06

    i'm black, but now please GOD punish! those stupid killers even in jail they must rot & die sh***ttttt d****m

  • Zenzele - 2011-07-29 08:09

    This is really barbaric, those murderers don't deserve to live on this earth, why killing someonne not to mention a 2 year old baby!! Oh! God, I am better off remaining here in England with my skills than to come back home and face these terrible life threatening events everyday. Its high time for the Government to bring back the death sentence. Now the tax payer is going to foot the bill for looking after these morons in prison. These people they don't feel anything in prison, they feel at home, something must be done!!!

  • Baddy - 2011-07-29 08:13

    I agree that the death penalty would have been the right thing to do. We need to get the death penalty back in our country. A lot of this kind of things will stop!!! I say we go hand out some ratex at the prison where they are being held, and then slip it into their pap. That'll teach 'em

  • Bloedrivier - 2011-07-29 08:14

    Citizens must take justice into their own hands!!!! Death to these pigs!!! Slow, agonising death!!!!!! Mob justice to all criminals, our police and courts are pathetic,mob rules.........time to tie them naked to poles with razor wire and slice their flesh and wait for the vultures to start feeding!!!

  • Fedup - 2011-07-29 08:19

    I still say we should brand murderes and rapists on their forehead and put them back into society, and let the people take action, they will not last an hour

  • Bloedrivier - 2011-07-29 08:22

    Why is the crime rate in the Middle Eastern countries so low,.........because when you steal, they cut of your hand, when you rape or kill, you are publicly executed..........kill these fckers, they did not value life when they murdered, why must we value them? They belong in hell!!!!!!!!

  • Coyote - 2011-07-29 08:46

    bring back the death sentence!!When is the government going to realise that this is the right thing to do. jail - jails too full, so they get let out early.In Jail they get a bed, a roof over their heads, food...That's more like a reward!!!

  • hello.1 - 2011-07-29 08:46

    cut it out. give the family some time to grieve...

  • Ann - 2011-07-29 08:46

    Isn't that the truth of it. A few good examples will make criminals think twice about their heinous acts. Just knowing you will not go unpunished should make most people think twice. My condolences go out to the Potgieter family, but they should keep in mind that fortunately some people are being held responsible for this crime. Let us think of all the people who never see justice of any sort in these matters.

      Gavin - 2011-07-29 09:17

      Ann how can you say "they should keep in mind that fortunatly some people are being held responsible" This act should not even have taken place, South Africa truly has become a very numb society, and cold and heartless, I am glad my kids don't have to grow up in a society where people think it is a privilidge to be alive!!!

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  • Boychild - 2011-07-29 08:48

    Rather let one innocent die than 100 guilty of crime walk free sounds like a reasonable maxim to me. With the cost to keep a prisoner incarcerated identified by DCS in 2010 at R 200.00 per day this will translate to R 73,000.00 p/a or a staggering R 28,251,000.00 for their full sentence, excluding medical costs (Boeremag prisoner in hospital for 1 month after having Heart Surgery - estimated cost R150,000.00 (remember prisoners are treated in private hospitals due to security concerns or if Public Hospitals are used Department of Health Charges Maximum rates (R500.00 per day per bed excluding Surgery, Medicine and special care as if the patient was a Top Earning Private Person) With 8 Life sentences and 187 years these guys will most probably be released in 12-15 years due to special conditions or a remission order proposed by DCS and signed by the president due to overcrowding...... MMMMMMMMM, Mr & Mrs Taxpayer, you are once again royally screwed, bring back the Death Penalty!!!!!!

  • Georgie Porgie - 2011-07-29 08:57

    The reason why the death sentence will not be reinstated is because you will be Hanging/Executing at least 50 Blacks everyday (probably more as there are sometimes more than one to one on murders eg: in this case there were 5 killers) as there are a minimum of 50 reported murders everyday (not including the unreported ones) Can you imagine what a beautifull message that will send out to the world of what a wonderfull "DEMONOCRACY" we have here. With our cocked up judicial system it's a lot easier to hide and disguise all these killers. The biggest killer in the world today is HUMAN RIGHTS!! What sounds better; I have just served a 10 year jail sentence or I have just done 10 years correctional services; So and so was killed yesterday or so and so was murdered; Bob is a homosexual or Bob is gay; The business had 5% shrinkage or 5million was stolen at gun point etc.... I think this country needs a Breivik to balance the status quo or Jesus to return rather sooner than later.

  • Papsak - 2011-07-29 09:08

    @Allie, first things first bru. Learn to spell then you can think of establishing your white homeland. Just a kind advise.

  • Morarius - 2011-07-29 09:10

    Hang the buggers in public!!!

  • gallus - 2011-07-29 09:12

    I agree 100% with Simasiku. These non-humans are the living proof why the death penalty should be brought back. As it is, our execution by hanging is merciful compared to what they often do to their victims. Sometimes I think the Chinese system of the 1 000 cuts would be more appropriate - but where would you find an executioner willing to do it except among these non-humans themselves?

  • Oliver - 2011-07-29 09:20

    I feel sorry for the Killers, yes they deserve everything they got, but they are also children of God... Pray for their Salvation

  • NoTaRaCiSt - 2011-07-29 09:21

    If you want to act like an adult, you must also take the punishment of an adult. Why did they have to kill these people, especially a small child, or anyone in that matter!!! My God be with all who has been affected by this tragedy.

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  • RationalistPabi - 2011-07-29 09:59

    This is really baffling. I keep wondering, what motivates such gruesome farm killings? 1. Is it somehow linked to the 'land distribution' issue? 2. Perhaps just a form of racism. 3. Opportunistic crime, with farms being remote and all that. Does anyone know statistically how many farm murders we had in SA and what is the trend? My own opinion is that, they are far too frequent to be a coincidence!!

  • Papsak - 2011-07-29 10:28

    @Dan Gray, you are not likely to get any homeland. You and your white racist friends can keep fooling each other when you have your cheap brandy and coke. Anyway, I asked you a question: what do you say about white racist afrikanner farmers who kill their black farm workers, set vicious dogs on them, drag them behind bakkies?

  • Gido - 2011-07-29 11:25

    There is something seriously wrong with a society where such brutality takes place.. Government is not doing enough to address this issue.

  • Annie - 2011-07-29 11:43

    hopefully these pieces of crud will have a lousy time in jail and die soon. interesting that no comment from our esteemed prez or juju - too busy going on about some drink (nearly) spilt on the prez? or is it okay that it was whites killed? farmers nogal - we'll just do a Zim and Somalia-like begging bowl to the UN when food runs out here.

  • rachel.mojapelo - 2011-07-29 12:11

    Bheki Cele, you are so good at defrauding the country you cannot even help your fellow Police Officers who die on duty everyday, how will you help other members of society in stopping these barbaric killings. These people must be put on death row and let their families feel the pain that this family is still going through even today. To the family I would like to say that no words of comfort can bring your Wilmien and her parents back but every dog has it's own day. Bheki and his family will be going through what all the other families have gone through in times likes these, be it black or white. Kgadi

  • Leon Groenewald - 2011-07-29 12:23

    Hello.1; please wake up to the catastrophe you call reality right now! Stop dreaming of a world that will fall in place because we are just; because we are not; not a single one of us. What we are is trying to protect our families and you are not helping!