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Dept baffled by R99bn report

2012-08-06 11:46

Johannesburg - The defence department is baffled by a media report which claims that R99bn has been secretly spent since 1994 through the defence special account.

"I don't know where they got this R99bn figure. I don't know what calculation this is. I am baffled," defence ministry spokesperson Siphiwe Dlamini commented on Monday about a report in The Star.

"The auditor general has not even once given us a qualified report on that account. It has been unqualified since its inception in 1974."

The Star newspaper reported that it had calculated that the amount had been spent through the military account, which has a block on public access.

It reported that this was double the R49.6bn that the AG told the Truth and Reconciliation Commission had passed through the account from 1974 to 1994.

Nearly R14bn more was reportedly due to go into the account over the next two years.

Last week, The Star reported that Finance Minister Pravin Gordhan had exempted the special defence account from sections of the Public Finance Management Act for three years.

The National Treasury said this was so the account would not have to publish separate financial statements and disclose spending details.

According to the newspaper, the account is for buying weapons and equipment, funding covert activities, and spending on the arms deal.

Dlamini said it was gazetted by law and managed by the defence department and national treasury. Certain aspects of it were not for public consumption, he said.

"When we procure equipment for the defence force, it happens sometimes over a long period of time. There's nothing secret about it," he said.

"That account allows us to use money we have budgeted for... and if the item or equipment is not available at that specific time, we keep the money until the item is available.... That may sometimes take two to three years."

Comments
  • farmfreund - 2012-08-06 11:53

    The Anc needs to pay its salaries, this is where all missing funds goes to,

      michael.vanrheenen.9 - 2012-08-06 11:57

      Is there ONE dept in our government that there are no irregularities??? Dear Lord help this country... It's falling apart!!!!

      andrew.hendrikse - 2012-08-06 12:33

      The taxpayer is to government the same as a shareholder is to a company!! We, as taxpayers have a RIGHT TO KNOW what happens to the taxes we pay!!!It's not called public money for nothing!!

      bob.mcmillen.564 - 2012-08-06 12:57

      99 billion since 1994, now let me think what happened in 1994, this date seems to coincide with a lot of missing unaccountable funds, yes it has got considerably worse over the last 18 years, there must be some common denominater.

      blou.bul.94 - 2012-08-06 13:28

      Secret Fund? What Secret Fund??? or, if you prefer: Corruption? What Corruption???

      michangel.justice - 2012-08-06 13:47

      and the veterans are still waiting for their unpaid or under paid pension AND wages. Shame on you dept of defence, shame on you. PAY THE VETERANS WHAT IS DUE TO THEM, ESPECIALLY THE VETERANS OF THE CAPE CORPS

  • gerasimos.komnenus - 2012-08-06 11:55

    First they "struggled" and now they are baffled! Eish! Running a country properly is a job for adults not these children.

      alan.gernet - 2012-08-06 12:16

      YAAH - It's very hard to know where the money went.

      alf.pop - 2012-08-09 12:57

      And Pravin Gordhan excempts the account from the Public Finance Management Act. Does he also get a cut, or is he just being the obedient cabinet member that does not want to make waves and rather keeps his job, even if it is at the expense of transparency? Protect kleptocracy at all costs!

  • almeleh - 2012-08-06 11:58

    Lets face it. They are just plain baffled.

      jacob.siyanda - 2012-08-06 12:15

      @almeleh, If I told you that, you spend R100 on yellow paint last month, you will also be baffled. You would ask what? When? And where do you get that info?

      bob.mcmillen.564 - 2012-08-06 12:59

      jacob, now you have baffled me, why did almeleh buy yellow paint ?

      laurence.bekink.3 - 2012-08-06 16:04

      @jacob. What a truly baffling comment! I am baffled by how silly it is. Where did you lear to use a computer?

  • peterjohnjnb - 2012-08-06 12:02

    baffled indeed...................

      kevin.pitzer - 2012-08-06 12:25

      Baffled or silenced ?

      kala.bafazi - 2012-08-06 13:50

      I don't think Siphiwe is baffled, I think he is outraged. He was not told about this fund and as such he has been unable to dip his hands into this lucrative coffer.

  • peter.ndamase - 2012-08-06 12:04

    Another sensationalist article. What is so secret about the fund when it's provided for?

      Revelgen - 2012-08-06 12:10

      Peter, can you say you trust the ANC when almost every day a new ANC corruption is revealed? Check out the latest Sunday Times if you don't believe me. Now when there is a 'secret' fund of many billions, it's only reasonable to assume that there will be massive ANC fraud involved. It's the ANC way, I'm afraid. Thanks Heaven for the DA and the media. ANC robbery from public funds (and the poor of SA) over many years is very well documented indeed. The ANC cannot be trusted. Fact.

      jacob.siyanda - 2012-08-06 12:12

      Idiotic journalism!!!

      peter.ndamase - 2012-08-06 12:15

      The account has been in existence from the 70s, was the ANC in power then? Provision has to be made to acquire all we need for our defence wing

      alan.gernet - 2012-08-06 12:18

      beacuse once again - there is o accountability for the spending of taxpayers money. And we all know - even when there is accountability, corruption reigns supreme.

      rontheogre - 2012-08-06 12:19

      The existence and size of the fund is not secret, just on what and how our money is spent is secret. For example, we might be informed that R49 Billion went into the account, but not that it was spent on luxury cars, walls for houses, additional posts for connected family that never came to work, self enrichment, bribery and corruption, and before 1994, to fund hit squads to take out ANC cadres locally and overseas while terrorising the local population, spying on political opponents, and oh, you know, everything else that has nothing to do with national security.

  • johan.vanheerden.737 - 2012-08-06 12:10

    I Think they are baffled because they thought they they were stealing at least double this amount

  • allan.clean - 2012-08-06 12:15

    I know why they are baffled. Who said its 99bn. Its really 150bn. They cant understand the wrong number. Give them the correct number. Faceplant .. of course . that the money we stole.

  • bart.mitchell.393 - 2012-08-06 12:16

    The other word for a baffle is silencer. Once again there is silence over the arms deal......

  • sbudesh1 - 2012-08-06 12:22

    The ANC should ban these papers starting with city press

      godfrey.welman - 2012-08-06 13:26

      Unlike you, not all of us like to be in the dark. We prefer to live in a democratic SA not a dictatership like Zim. If this is incorrect reporting sue the paper.

      devon.riley.52 - 2012-08-06 13:45

      The ANC should be banned

      kala.bafazi - 2012-08-06 13:54

      If you don't want to see what's happening around you sbudesh, just close your eyes. As for the rest of us we would like to know where our money is going. If you start paying your taxes you might feel the same as the rest of us.

  • Tony Lapson - 2012-08-06 12:23

    Who cares how "baffled" this claim has left you... PRESENT EVIDENCE TO SUGGEST OTHERWISE. The government hates the media, they have the power to embarrass the reporters with TRUTH AND OPENESS.

  • robin.stobbs.9 - 2012-08-06 12:25

    Baffled? No kidding! With all the corruption going on it's no wonder everyone is 'baffled' = nobody knows whose pockets were 'greased'!

  • reza.daniels1 - 2012-08-06 12:28

    Yes it is difficult to keep track when there is so much GRAVY you lose count comrades!!!!!!!!!!!

  • vivian.harris.73 - 2012-08-06 12:28

    They baffled about everything they do...have no clue at all. Useless as always...

      papikie2 - 2012-08-06 13:26

      shm!

  • marius.vanwyk.5621 - 2012-08-06 12:32

    They call it baffled, the correct term should be "caught out again"

  • etienne.odendaal.1 - 2012-08-06 12:33

    Why do we have a defence force again?

  • sidney.gilroy - 2012-08-06 12:36

    The 99 Billion was spent on covert operations and equipment accross Africa. You will be amazed where our military operates on this continent...not to mention the dictators we help to prop up...with the aid of the West and the UN. The real political game is hidden from the public eye.

  • djmain1 - 2012-08-06 12:37

    "Crisis, what crisis?" Phansi cANCer, phansi!!!

  • scouter.fourone - 2012-08-06 12:37

    Who really knows anymore? This government's indulgences defy any kind of sound accountability. Responsible government never will be the ANC way.... just keep allowing them to get away with it all and learn to live with the consequences. If you still believe in the Rainbow Nation, that is ........

  • david.vanas.3 - 2012-08-06 13:08

    And when they finally source the item, the money is gone... Eish!

  • blou.bul.94 - 2012-08-06 13:21

    Secret Fund? What Secret Fund?

  • shaun.cousins1 - 2012-08-06 13:25

    Lindiwe Sisulu Swiss bank account. She should be held accountable.

  • Spiral - 2012-08-06 15:45

    "It has been unqualified since its inception in 1974." have a diversion.

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