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Dictator Kim Il Sung compared to Mandela

2012-04-22 18:00

Pretoria - Deputy minister of police, Maggie Sotyu, has compared the deceased former leader of North Korea, Kim Il Sung, to former president Nelson Mandela, a Nobel Peace Prize laureate.

Sotyu spoke at the centenary celebrations of North Korea, held at the North Korean embassy in ­Pretoria.

“You and your fellow countrymen rightly so regard [Kim Il Sung] as the father of the nation, and you will thus forever revere him as your president.

“We also have our own father of the nation, the first democratically elected president of a democratic Republic of South Africa, Mr ­Rolihlahla Nelson Mandela.

“I am pleased to say proudly that these similarities I have just mentioned of these two great nations extend beyond symbolic boundaries or gestures.

They are deeply embedded in our existence and our history as respective nations.

South Africans will be forever indebted to the DPRK [Democratic People’s Republic of Korea], because it was under the leadership of Kim Il Sung when your country provided us, the ANC, with all possible material and mental support during our struggle for freedom, to overturn and overcome the tyranny of the apartheid regime,” she said.

North Korea is a totalitarian regime built on the cult personality of Kim Il Sung and his family.

It has developed a nuclear programme, which it frequently threatens to use against South Korea.

Its population was hard hit by famine during the 1990s.

Sotyu said South Africa and North Korea had a meaningful relationship despite the fact that South Africa has no dedicated ambassador in the North Korean capital Pyongyang. The South African ambassador in China is also responsible for North Korea.

Since the advent of democracy the ANC has not publicised its relationship with North Korea, and the department of international relations and co-operation shied away from comment on the latest set of missiles launched by the country.

“We have a ceremonial relationship with them, but actually we want nothing to do with them.

"We have nothing to gain from a relationship with North Korea, so we just keep quiet and hope no one asks us about it,” an official in the department told City Press.

But Sotyu seems to have a different view.

“South Africa is hopeful the newly elected first secretary of the Workers’ Party of Korea, His Excellency Kim Jong Un, will continue in partnership with our government leaders to build on these diplomatic relations started by the great leader president Kim Il Sung, and to expand and strengthen on the agreements that the DPRK has with departments such as sport and recreation and cultural affairs.

“Both South Africa and the DPRK share fundamental values of revolutionary principles for liberation, people’s welfare and sovereignty of people and country.”

“As our respective countries are both member states of the UN, South Africa and the DPRK must continue with vigour to use that platform to reach out to each other.”

Comments
  • Thobile - 2012-04-22 11:59

    Sorry to say but the deputy minster has no clue

      Piet - 2012-04-22 18:40

      none of the ANC leadership has a clue!!!

      Robert - 2012-04-22 19:00

      have you guys lost your mind

      Benn - 2012-04-22 19:02

      Misguided, perhaps, but some truth - by default

      kensong.ben - 2012-04-22 19:11

      @piet ..without apology ,that is the generalisation that just irks me . I happen to know some young , intelligent n loyal anc members who has a different take on how the country is run ..given a chance , u might be supriz to cast ur vote in a diff banner

      Fred - 2012-04-22 20:00

      Too many of our leaders have zero principles and weak character

      Piet - 2012-04-22 20:08

      Kensong sorry my friend, but they do not have any concept about governance. And if i listen to what the ANCYL wants. This place will be another failed african state. The model has been created in the ANC, it is a race for money. If they had any integrity they would lock up the cadres found guilty for corruption. Instead they are protected......sorry ne...

      kensong.ben - 2012-04-22 20:23

      @ piet . I clearly understand ur take on n u r spot on on most of what u,v just highlighted ..still ,i believe that the party izn,t that rotten forget about the malema irks ,youth on the ground r making their own mind n the landcape might change sooner

      Ditiro - 2012-04-22 20:31

      @kensong.ben you don't have to justify yourself or the anc on this racist forum

      sean.looney - 2012-04-22 22:13

      i literally laughed the whole way through this article. if it had been an april fools joke i'd have still thought it was too far fetched to be true.

      Nicole - 2012-04-23 11:27

      How insulting to Mandela!

      bluzulu - 2012-04-23 11:39

      Cmon' Now Maggie.........

      anthro45 - 2012-04-23 13:14

      Comparing a dictator with a terrorist??

  • slingela - 2012-04-22 12:22

    Misleading headlines.

      Morrone - 2012-04-22 21:06

      Agreed!

  • Bertus - 2012-04-22 15:23

    SA's leaders are losing touch with reality more and more. They are even forgetting our constitutional values in a democratic society where secrecy and corruption are business at the end of the day.

  • James - 2012-04-22 18:21

    I knew, the darn communists were behind it

  • Bennie - 2012-04-22 18:32

    The parts with the brains stayed on the sheets !!!!

  • gavin.simpson.0 - 2012-04-22 18:33

    Oh my word.....

  • kensong.ben - 2012-04-22 18:39

    That is what u get for when u appoint a clueless representative with a half baked brain if any to market ur country ...as far as i know mandela hasn,t sent any1 in the gallows for having a different opinion .that alone suffice to tear those two appart.

  • Nico - 2012-04-22 18:40

    For f%$k sakes... what is she talking about! How dare she say that!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! There is NO comparison at all. That is unless Mandela IS/WAS a terrorist out and out!

      Piet - 2012-04-22 20:09

      He was and admitted it.h

  • Glyn - 2012-04-22 18:42

    The minister is a twerp.

  • Mark - 2012-04-22 18:51

    There are no words. This is the most stupid statement made by our rulers since the National Party expressed respect and admiration for Hitler and his Nazi Germany, and lobbied for NEUTRALITY in World War 2. I am glad that the National Party at least had the good sense to send bombers to drop tons and tons of explosives on Pyeongyang and Kim Il Sung in the Korean War. That must be why these cretins love him so much.

      Mark - 2012-04-22 19:43

      PS. Quick history lesson; apart from being the epitome of the 'puppet dictator with Stalin's hand so far up his @ss that if they had operated on that tumor on the back of his neck, Papa Joe would have had to have changed his name to 'Papa Three Fingers', Kim Il Sung was an idiot. He had popular support in the South amongst the peasantry, and Russia and China's backing for an invasion. In fact, if he had started a war at any other time, Russia and China would have vetoed the motion that assembled the UN troops that utimately defeated the communist forces. So what went wrong? This mampara invaded South Korea on the day that Russia and China were acting like spoiled teenagers and boycotting the UN Security Council's over some stupid disagreement with the West. The rest, as they say, is history. South Korea is now the 13th biggest economy in the world and is a bigger exporter than Great Britain. Hey, ANC - why don't you like prosperous and/or industrious nations? Why do you always team up with pariahs and hurl insults from your dark little corner of the world? Jealousy makes you nasty.

  • louis.langenhoven - 2012-04-22 18:52

    ja baas

      Koos - 2012-04-23 01:20

      Both of them ruined a nation.

  • Brad.Kopping - 2012-04-22 18:53

    Is this person on some form of crack?

      alansmartSnr - 2012-04-22 21:20

      Lol and lol again!!opinionater

      johncarlos.biza - 2012-04-22 22:32

      Maybe, or she's talking out of her crack

  • tom.vorster - 2012-04-22 18:54

    You struggle for liberation, you wave your flag of democracy and then you publically announce your admiration for the least democratic, most repressive regime in the world. Our leadership has definitely lost touch with reality!

  • Donny Doncaster - 2012-04-22 19:00

    And the speechwriters laughed their @sses off..

      maseratifittipaldi - 2012-04-22 21:00

      He he... mischievous Donny! Now the poor spokesperson must put a spin on this and do some damage control.

  • nigel.forshaw - 2012-04-22 19:02

    Does the deputy minister not know that North Korea is not a democracy, unlike South Africa? What a disgrace to compare that North Korean dictator to Nelson Mandela. I am afraid the deputy minister is mistaken and should resign.

      mholthuysen - 2012-04-22 19:15

      Are we really a democracy - it seems to me more and more as if the RSA is the property of the ANC...!

  • mholthuysen - 2012-04-22 19:04

    Okay now the ANC has lost the plot completely. Or is this an indication what they have planned?

      Nico - 2012-04-22 19:07

      I think they lost the plot a while ago ... :-)

      mholthuysen - 2012-04-22 19:11

      Agreed Rhino - I was just lost for words... not that anything should actually shock us anymore...

  • johncarlos.biza - 2012-04-22 19:09

    You'd swear we send our dumbest citizens to parliament!

  • Neville - 2012-04-22 19:14

    She must remain a deputy or a lower rank she is so CONFUSE , LIKE THE REST OF THE GOV, IT IS AN INSULT TO MADIBA.

  • schewitz - 2012-04-22 19:15

    The ANC can be absurd sometimes but this is just...well not sure what words to use, im speechless. WTF

  • Dave - 2012-04-22 19:27

    Is Sotyu's middle name "IL STUPIDO"? Zimpopo's president, JuJu"s mate, expressed similar sentiments a few weeks ago. Makes you think what IDIOTS are being selected to represent an ignorant electorate.

  • pjcbs - 2012-04-22 19:30

    WTF? This "lady" is beyond clueless and clearly does not give a damn for human rights. Kim Il Sung was a mass murderer, a dictator, and thief of his people's land and goods. She should not be in a position of government!

  • mike.clery - 2012-04-22 19:33

    If this isn't proof that the lunatics are running the asylum, what is?

  • maseratifittipaldi - 2012-04-22 19:40

    Well, we've heard the ANC sing the praises of Mugabe and Gadhaffi et al and they just love this "king" next door...

  • Michele - 2012-04-22 19:41

    I think her comparison to former President Mandela is insulting.

      maseratifittipaldi - 2012-04-22 19:51

      The full blooded communists might agree with you...

      Michele - 2012-04-22 21:51

      I hope so maserati

  • Shaun - 2012-04-22 19:50

    Stupidity knows no bounds!

  • Garth - 2012-04-22 19:51

    £u€king disgrace to everything that is South Africa!!

  • zmasemola1 - 2012-04-22 19:55

    actually if it wasn't for the insult to Madiba, this would have been the funniest article yet. I like Mr No Name who denies the relationship, he must have been whispering when he made that comment, ANC considers these kind of comments an insult to revolution (whatever that is).

  • luzukotosh - 2012-04-22 20:00

    How dare she

  • Tawanda Chivese - 2012-04-22 20:02

    crazy woman should go to school or at least read the newspapers

  • Daniel - 2012-04-22 20:12

    IDIOT!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • Marius - 2012-04-22 20:18

    She looks like my tea lady. Difference is my tea lady has commen sense

  • patrick.saunders123 - 2012-04-22 20:29

    hardly surprising given the anc's habit of supporting oppressive regimes and serial human rights abusers. Bunch of phuquers.

  • patrick.saunders123 - 2012-04-22 20:30

    hardly surprising given the anc's habit of supporting oppressive regimes and serial human rights abusers. Bunch of phuquers.

  • Ditiro - 2012-04-22 20:30

    i didn't see any Comparison there

  • Elkita - 2012-04-22 20:35

    Was Kim aa terroristMaandela is one

  • Jean - 2012-04-22 20:50

    Huh?? WTF? INSULTING

  • rowan.maulson - 2012-04-22 20:51

    I'm sorry.. I read to the point where the comparison was made and stopped. Here is my response : Maggie Sotyu, you can go and get fscked... do not ever ever ever compare a great human being like Nelson Mandela with a despot like that cretin from North Korea.

  • lskosana3 - 2012-04-22 21:05

    Do a lil' research lady, you just embarassing

  • Michael Werner Joubert - 2012-04-22 21:11

    Maggie, what on earth are you saying? Are you so completely stupid? If SA is such a good "friend" to North Korea, why do we not even have an enbassy there?

  • Claudio - 2012-04-22 21:19

    The mind boggles - but then perhaps not, given the shear ignorance of those that govern us and their gross ineptitude. Perhaps Deputy Minister Sotyu should read 'Escape from Camp 14' amongst others and familiarize herself with the following: North Korea is not a democracy Kim Il Sung and his son Kim Jong Il have committed more atrocities against their own people than Mugabe has or ever will. There is a chronic shortage of food and over a million people died of starvation during 1997 - 1999 and continue to do so on a lesser scale today. The Governments financial priority is to be able to compete in the arms race and in particular the nuclear arms race. This extremely secretive society hides the fact that it is the most repressive, primitive, cruel and archaic countries in the world. Our intellectually challenged deputy Minister needs and medal for shear stupidity.

      Michele - 2012-04-22 21:54

      You are so right Claudio, here's a little fact for you, north koreans are on average 2 to 3 inches shorter than south koreans and that is directly attributable to malnutrition over the last fifty years. It's difficult to eat nuclear weapons.

  • Brent - 2012-04-22 22:41

    Ditiro, isn't it amazing that whenever you don't have an answer you feel so inferior that you have to pull the race card. Quite frankly we are talking about a minister and a political party. The ANC has no clue how to govern properly and instead of learning from countires that are successful like South Korea, no they look to countries like North Korea. Come on man. The ANC leadership, for the most, are only interested in enriching themselves and then hiding behind clever new laws to stop themselves from being prosecuted.

  • Stlouis Heidtmann - 2012-04-22 22:48

    amazingly retarded anc we have the dumbest leaders on earth

  • CoronaSherona - 2012-04-23 03:13

    Simply no contest. There is and was and will only EVER be 1 Madiba - a man of integrity, substance and honour. Wishful thinking Mr. Wannabe. Perhaps you need one of your rockets up your butt to get a reality check....

  • Stu - 2012-04-23 05:01

    Is this really the quality of journalism South Africa is allowing to be published? South Africa, wake up! This is a pointless, nonsensical article! Surely South Africa has ties with more respectable countries that are worth mentioning. As if the crime, corruption and mismanagement associated with South Africa isn't enough we have this presented to the world to see as a "Must read". Wow!

  • Gerald Jordaan - 2012-04-23 05:04

    yeah yeah yeah...check out U Tube and watch the iconic Mandela sing kill the ama bhuru !! what's so great about the dicktator Kim ll Sung?

  • Norbert - 2012-04-23 05:38

    Now I now where the expression DUMB COP come from. Just as well there is the majority of the police force which has the head in the right place and not in the pants sitting on it. Dept. minister u just have made it into the club of the brain-dead.

  • kosmonooit - 2012-04-23 06:02

    How pathetically misinformed and ignorant the Deputy Minister is! ie http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-17774210 ps This deficiency seems to be a pandemic in government and public service leadership.

  • amgaqelwa - 2012-04-23 06:45

    Someone forgot to take her meds or she did but had space cakes afterwards.

  • Mark - 2012-04-23 07:24

    http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/fighting_words/2010/02/a_nation_of_racist_dwarfs.html

      Ze Don - 2012-04-23 08:19

      Interesting read, thanks. This is what happens when you start believing your own propaganda.

  • misswoodcutter - 2012-04-23 07:24

    this is hillarious!! kwaaaaaaaaaaakwaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!