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Did Zapiro go too far?

2012-07-06 16:24

Johannesburg - The ANC and the National Union of Metalworkers of SA (Numsa) have demanded an apology for Zapiro's latest cartoon relating to President Jacob Zuma published in the Mail & Guardian on Friday.

"As the ANC, we are taken aback by this so-called cartoon and comment by Zapiro," said the ANC.

"We find it unacceptable and shocking that after the harsh experiences that South Africa, the president, and his family experienced [a] few weeks ago, that Zapiro and the Mail & Guardian will find it appropriate to continue with the insults and hurt to the president, his family, and the broader ANC constituency."

The party was referring to a now defaced painting by Brett Murray The Spear which depicted Zuma with his genitals exposed.

Frontal attack

In response to the painting the ANC launched a court application to have it removed from the Goodman Gallery and arranged a protest march to register its anger.

ANC spokesperson Jackson Mthembu said the party was inundated with calls about Friday's cartoon, featuring an erect penis and a limerick about Zuma.

Calls also came from journalists, leading the ANC to believe all South Africans shared its "disgust" and were "equally offended".

An apology to Zuma, his family, the ANC constituency, and to South Africa at large was required, Mthembu said.

Numsa said: "This is nothing else but a frontal attack on the personal integrity and social standing of the ANC president Jacob Zuma camouflaged as artistic expression."

'Deep personal hatred'

"There is nothing artistic about this latest cartoon by Zapiro, but it is littered with venomous and deep personal hatred of the incumbent President Jacob Zuma," said Castro Ngobese, Numsa spokesperson.

The cartoon bordered on character assassination, he continued.

"As Numsa we can come to no other conclusion but to accept that some white progressives of yesteryear have become racist and colonialist in their outlook since the advent of our new democratic dispensation.

"The likes of Zapiro and Brett Murray can no longer hide their hatred for black revolutionaries to drive our society towards a non-racial, non-sexist, democratic, and a society free of super exploitation."

The ANC Women's League  earlier expressed similar views.

'Too far'

"Jonathan Shapiro has taken his attempts at satire too far," the league said in a statement.

In the cartoon, Zapiro drew an erect penis with a face and legs and a showerhead on its head looking at itself in a mirror.

Murray's signature is in a bottom corner of the "mirror" and the name of the gallery also appears in the cartoon.

Under the heading "'The Spear' to be raised at Social Cohesion Summit", he includes a limerick referring to Zuma, which the women's league felt was an insult to people who suffered under apartheid.

"The Zapiro cartoons rely on their shock value to make an impact, but calling the president of this great nation a 'dick' is unacceptable and the WL would like to know who the 'we' he is referring to in the cartoon actually is, as the majority of the population who voted for the president clearly did not think this of Zuma."

- Take a look at the cartoon on M&G's website.

Comments
  • UncleShep - 2012-07-06 16:27

    He did......most definitely.....

      SeanBergie - 2012-07-06 16:35

      What is too far? I thought singing songs publicly about killing whites is 'too far' ???

      TSR01 - 2012-07-06 16:35

      No he didn't; in fact, he could have gone much further.

      jackal666.daniel - 2012-07-06 16:40

      With regard to the title of this article: HEY ANC STUPID QUESTIONS GET STUPID ANSWERS!!!

      gieljam.gomtor - 2012-07-06 16:54

      Famous Shapiro hating the Prez? Neva. Theya barking up the wrong alley , words are sharper than a cartoon ask infamous J.M.

      julian.booyens - 2012-07-06 17:04

      No! showerhead went to far to bring this on himself

      JohnRambo1723 - 2012-07-06 17:10

      What I'm even more surprised over is how the ANC can pull things out like how he supposedly offends people who suffered under apartheid, how it's an attack on black people. I quote: "that some white progressives of yesteryear have become racist and colonialist in their outlook since the advent of our new democratic dispensation." He's gunning Zuma - the fact that he is black has nothing to do with it, however it's quite shocking how they can fit the word 'apartheid' into just about each and every complaint they make...

      Sharon - 2012-07-06 17:11

      you keep writing borderline cartoons and you are eventually going to overstep the boundries,zapiro is good thats why it took so long,appologise and move on to the next cartoon

      peter.jeffrey.581 - 2012-07-06 17:13

      @Sharon - Journalists dont apologize for writing about the truth neither should Zapiro

      claudia.meads - 2012-07-06 17:27

      Interesting how the biggest haters (ie the ANC who overtly hate whites) always seem to accuse others of being (supposedly) hateful... More so, interesting how the ANC seem to think they speak for ALL South Africans - I see very few people here supporting the 'DANCING DICK'. Provocative cartoons is part of any intelligent and advanced society - South Africa is evidently progressing backwards, faster each day, back towards the stone-age where it was found a few hundred years ago. http://editorialcartoonists.com/cartoonist/profile.cfm/RallT/

      nelly.skosana.5 - 2012-07-06 17:45

      seanbergie,,yes killing the white songs was taking to far..thats y the court rulled against it

      Mr.J.Crawford - 2012-07-06 18:03

      @gladlad, I first of all though that he did go a little too far. However as soon as Numsa played the race card yet AGAIN I have changed my mind. This has got nothing to do with race and everything to do with poor leadership... no matter how much Numsa wants to play the "good old Race Card".

      fussed.anderson - 2012-07-06 18:05

      The truth hurts

      Frank - 2012-07-06 19:14

      If you think this is crude, you should look at the Clinton/Lewinsky scandal cartoons. The only way Zuma can convince the public he is not a perverted sex maniac, who uses the presidents office to get laid as often as possible, is to get himself neutered or castrated immediately. Clinton smiled beautifully through the whole scandal.

      jmlongwe - 2012-07-06 20:02

      Difference with commenters here and MG is that they actually talk sense at MG, here i'd swear am talking with kids who seem to be unable to put a point across without throwing insults. Oh well off i go

      Charles-Bronson - 2012-07-07 11:21

      The most corrupted racist president in South Africa went too far. This king of thief's!!!!!

  • Tony Lapson - 2012-07-06 16:28

    No. He didn't. Nor should he need a reason to explain himself. Respect is earned, not demanded.

      Press - 2012-07-06 16:46

      And who sets the bar in adjudicating in this matter, the ANC or the Constitution - time to pick . . . .

  • jackal666.daniel - 2012-07-06 16:29

    HAHAHAHAHAHA Now tell me ANC is lawyer gonna cry in court again?

      jackal666.daniel - 2012-07-06 16:30

      Maybe the FPB will censor it nicely for you bunch of loosers again!

  • Randomhero6661 - 2012-07-06 16:29

    shame, but no one cares zoom zoom haha no plane...

  • al.chemist.7106 - 2012-07-06 16:30

    No. President Zuma is a public figure. If he wants to act like a promiscuous jackass, then he is fair game. Some advice for President Zuma and his "followers", it's better to be thought a fool than open your mouth and remove all doubt

      alf.pop - 2012-07-07 16:39

      Not only is he a public figure, but he is also a national embarrassment!

  • nrgx.nrg - 2012-07-06 16:31

    NUMSA etc: Aplologise Zapiro: not by the hair of my ...... .... .... NUMSA etc: The we'll huff and we'll puff and will .... ...

      jackal666.daniel - 2012-07-06 16:37

      and we'll fluff your knob up???

  • thebe.tau - 2012-07-06 16:32

    Did Zapiro go too far? ...we only heard that he is out of the country, we just don't know how far.

      TSR01 - 2012-07-06 16:37

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  • lynn.syme.1 - 2012-07-06 16:36

    Get over it! Go and put some weight behind important matters. The president isnt that important. I never heard them squeal about kids being raped and crime in general, but god forbid you draw a picture depicting the president as a dick, it grinds to a halt and soon the marches start again. Put your energy into things that are important. YOU are a servant of the people as is the president.

  • JoeFarmer - 2012-07-06 16:39

    I am outraged at the anc's outrage about an acurate depiction of their rudderless leader. I am more outraged at their "worry" about the state of crime and education in this country. if a Kingdom is run by a King, what is a country run by?

      TSR01 - 2012-07-06 16:42

      JoeFarmer, that's the best line ever! Thank you for sharing! :)

      Jazzy - 2012-07-06 17:45

      shouldn't that be rubberless, JoeFarmer?

  • ro.jhb.1 - 2012-07-06 16:43

    Did he draw a penis on the president or the president on a penis. Not having seen the cartoon I am curious?

      gieljam.gomtor - 2012-07-06 16:59

      No he drew the prez with a pencil in his hand and now they say he was degraded Shapiro should have shown him with a multi million Rand pen in his hand.

  • WitWolf - 2012-07-06 16:46

    zuma did it to himself. Just like the anc is doing it to themselves.... Your reputation is what YOU make of it...

  • sika.ncamane - 2012-07-06 16:47

    Zapiro is just an attention seeker. They should not have commented on his catoon and this would have been a none issue.

      Jellyarse - 2012-07-06 19:31

      Oh you are so damn ignorant Sika!

      hanno.coetzer - 2012-07-06 19:48

      I have to agree with Sika. If the ANC just left the cartoon at that, it would have gone unnoticed to the general public.

  • dewaldj - 2012-07-06 16:48

    freedom of speech/expression ???

  • devon.riley.52 - 2012-07-06 16:49

    well now its official, zoomer is a deek

      SeanBergie - 2012-07-06 16:51

      You look like Zoomer

  • carl.debeer.33 - 2012-07-06 16:49

    Get a life everyone!lol. In any other Country a President would of made a funny or sarcastic remark in retaliation, and carried on with everyday life.....showing up the Media.Like a true Statesman of course.

  • trevor.mashilo - 2012-07-06 16:50

    Y shud always everything b Racism,if we r out of answers.... If da Pres....represent wrong tinx.....Den he shud b depicted wrongfully.

      jackal666.daniel - 2012-07-06 17:03

      Your next Bells Trevor is on me!

  • trevor.mashilo - 2012-07-06 16:50

    Y shud always everything b Racism,if we r out of answers.... If da Pres....represent wrong tinx.....Den he shud b depicted wrongfully.

      Bruce - 2012-07-06 17:01

      Learn some proper English!!!

      aristar.aristary - 2012-07-07 00:05

      I do not understand your post. It reads like a two year old's ranting. Please write in English or at least some form of communicable language.

      chikunga - 2012-07-07 09:41

      you speak a point they concetrate on grammar.this is not a classroom duhhh

  • peter.fraser.92754 - 2012-07-06 16:51

    A bit of a prickly subject, Correction : the majority of the population voted for Zuma,,,,,,when was this ?

  • israel.makgotla - 2012-07-06 16:52

    mr zuma deserves all wat he's gtin. He neva shwed leadership. Since he was appointd as president of da country all he dd was 2 marry. Mbeki pple respectd him includin white pple. So u cnt xpert pple 2 respect u while u shwin ur immaturity @ da ages of 60s

      dewald.marais.77 - 2012-07-06 17:43

      Well said, you are spot on... Zuma should have been in jail - if we cast our minds back (arms deal etc.) A Country's leaders should be an example for all! Mr Mbeki was a leader with morals and values - level headed, I wish the ANC can elect someone Zapiro can't draw suggestive images of.... Does the ANC have someone like that or are we in trouble? Remains to be seen

  • msaka.lekhosi - 2012-07-06 16:53

    When ANCYL attacks farmers, it should be seen as a crime affecting the entire country. N0w, the question is: why do we see Zapiro and Murray as whites and n0t as S. Africans?

  • Kevin - 2012-07-06 16:53

    Wonderful! If the ANC/NUMSA had kept quite. The cartoon would have run it's course and being forgotten about before the weekends out. But it's now being elevalted to cult status. I for one had not seen or heard of the cartoon before all the outcry, and would probley have glossed over it. But now...

  • dlink011 - 2012-07-06 16:54

    FFS, read articles from earlier...Limpopo education department overpaid supplier by R2m a month! thats news not this nonsense! I love the fact that ANC has NO time management. Spend little time with important things. And all your time with things like this. There are bigger things to worry about than a painting!!

  • mart.botha - 2012-07-06 16:57

    This outrage shown by the ANC and it's affiliates is nothing more than a reminder to themselves that they are puppets on proverbial strings. Sadly, no one in the ANC actually knows who the real puppet master is and this is why they plod along, a fragmented, disorientated shadow of their former idealistic selves.....blatently available to the highest bidder.

  • julie.mellon.5 - 2012-07-06 16:58

    Click on the word cartoon in the first paragraph to see what the fuss is all about. David Cameron (UK PM) is depicted as a condom in every Guardian cartoon. The Conservative party wrote to the Guardian asking them to stop doing this... we all laughed. Cartoons are understood by millions and are usually spot on!

  • price.moyo.9 - 2012-07-06 17:00

    Get a life, if u r in public office people will always take a jab at u. Part of democracy so shoosh n stomach it, if not then get out of the kitchen end of!

  • elvis.sibuyi - 2012-07-06 17:01

    Why do we racialise everything here in south africa..its bad to look at a person and you think he have done cause he is white/black...let us build this country to prosperity...

      ditoare.gypsy - 2012-07-06 18:36

      While we have people like Julius Malema and Johnathan Shapiro who sees other people asdicks and sing kill the boer, building this country is still a deep dream

      ditoare.gypsy - 2012-07-06 18:37

      While we have people like Julius Malema and Johnathan Shapiro who sees other people as dicks and sing kill the boer, building this country is still a deep dream

  • israel.makgotla - 2012-07-06 17:02

    pple say zapiro mus gt bodyguards y? Alws fytin 4 zuma n anc bt they dnt gv a f**k bwt da country n well being of pple. Il neva fyt 4 ds stupid party n headless leaders

      Irene - 2012-07-06 17:51

      Israel try learning to write properly. You'll find that people will respect you a whole lot more. Enough with the shortcuts.

      Themba - 2012-07-06 18:12

      Dud no sms shortcuts please

      israel.makgotla - 2012-07-06 18:27

      il try 2 b straight guys sorry, bt down with ANC

  • Michael - 2012-07-06 17:02

    ZAPPIRO FOR PRESIDENT.

      philip.allebone - 2012-07-06 17:06

      I'd vote for him1 Actually i would vote for anyone that was interested in the country rather than their own genitals.

      nsele2 - 2012-07-06 18:40

      could it be that Zapiro is fantasizing about....?

      aristar.aristary - 2012-07-07 00:14

      and possibly Leon Schuster, Evita Bezuidenhout, Trevor Noah, Marc Lottering, Joey Rasdien, Daniel Friedman, Loyiso Gola, Kedibone Mulaudzi, Chris Forrest, Alan Committie, etc, should serve as his government. Can only be an improvement on the current bunch of clowns in the Punch and Judy show.

  • Siphiwo - 2012-07-06 17:04

    While respecting Zapiro's artistic work, this cartoon today, has gone so far and beyond. We need to respect the President of the country. The freedom of expression that we have today, is the same that the ANC fought for and many of our people died for, tortured for,maimed for. It a right that, we need to respect and enjoy responsibly. Zapiro, you need to apologise to the President and the nation.

      roann.louw.7 - 2012-07-06 17:12

      Respect is earned it does not come with you job title

      Irene - 2012-07-06 17:51

      Respect Zooomer? What is there to respect?

      Themba - 2012-07-06 18:13

      We also fought against the exploitation of women, but your Pres is doing exactly that by sleeping around and making women pregnant and leaving them

      charl.malan.12 - 2012-07-07 12:02

      Sure pal

      quintin.style - 2012-07-07 14:28

      siphiwo ,when the the president starts treating us as equals and not as us and them ,then i will respect and embrace him as i have done with all my black ,coloured,indian and white friends peace and love mchana

  • shahieda.erkamp - 2012-07-06 17:06

    No he didn't go far enough! Go Zapiro! Don't give them an Apology, for what? Please post more comics!

      Siphiwo - 2012-07-06 17:16

      My point here SHAHIEDA.ERKAMP, is to be honest with the truth. No matter what you hold or we hold against or for the President, this cartoon today, is damaging greatly on the nation-building and to Zuma as a family person like you, hopefully. I am sure, you will never be a happy father or mother if such a picture, is yours. Be honest, you wont be happy. My call for Zapiro to apologise, remains the same as you may know by now, he erred so much, actually, he has gone too far.

  • dave.leverton - 2012-07-06 17:06

    leading the ANC to believe all South Africans shared its "disgust" and were "equally offended". I must have stopped being South Africa all of a sudden. Spot on Zapiro.

  • gavin.potter.75 - 2012-07-06 17:08

    I wish ZAPIRO or BRETT would sketch a picture of ZUMA looking much like AL CAPONE (Greatest symbol of collapsed law, being a criminal and untouchable to a point), with a MACHINE GUN for his part in his songs ..and of course .. his P@nis hanging out for obvious reasons!

  • aubrey.kerileng - 2012-07-06 17:08

    I think this Stupid_Racist Zapiro guy gone too far now

      michael.ritter.142 - 2012-07-06 17:18

      Why is he racist?!!!!! Because it is of a black man?! He drew pictures of white presidents also if you know your history!

      LynneOeschger - 2012-07-06 17:21

      How dare you accuse Zapiro of racism?

      msaka.lekhosi - 2012-07-06 17:25

      Learn to shut up if u don't know the person.

  • ramohapelwa.berries - 2012-07-06 17:09

    What happened to South Africa? Really? It doesn't rain, it pours. While I suffer

  • roann.louw.7 - 2012-07-06 17:10

    have they not learned from the previous painting how to handle these situations? If they had not said anything about Zapiro I would not have known about the cartoon. Fuel on the fire they just dont learn

  • Stewart Croucamp - 2012-07-06 17:11

    I recall the days when Pieter Dirk Uys made a mockery of the apartheid government and we all laughed. When is the present government going to laugh at satire.

      Irene - 2012-07-06 17:53

      They don't know what satire is and nor can they handle any form of criticism. All criticism is perceived as racism. Sad really.

      Themba - 2012-07-06 18:15

      They are all ingratiating themselves to Zuma because their eyes are on cabinet positions. Deep down though, they know he is a pr__k

  • brendon.nel.7 - 2012-07-06 17:12

    What's the problem?? Its the truth aint it?? Just bout everything the man does is a \cock up\ ha ha ha

  • hendrik.vdberg - 2012-07-06 17:12

    Well played son! ANC be hatin him too - wait for the youth league to start supporting zapiro D:

  • jan.fourie.524 - 2012-07-06 17:13

    Every night and every day there are people crying because they have lost a husband, wife, father, mother or child in this country because of murder. Childeren are raped, old people gets murdered and mutilated... no big deal, no fuzz? Just another day in SA. ZUMA you are drawing fire because you and your government fail us every single day on issues that matters most : life and death. Com'on, take it on the chin like a man and face it with dignity..... the citizens of your country takes much more pain then just a simple cartoon!

      aristar.aristary - 2012-07-07 00:16

      That would be dicknity wouldn't it?

  • Rob - 2012-07-06 17:13

    The ANC.. Always looking for someone else to apologize when it is they who should be apologizing for their corrupt, misinformed and incompetent government. Go create a job and stop worrying about JZ. I'm sure his many wives can look after him and make him feel good after a difficult day at the office where he's so busy covertly encouraging national tension, supporting terrorist organizations (ANCYL) and creating the setting for theft. This buzzard must make way for someone more educated and peace promoting than himself.

  • sango.jika - 2012-07-06 17:17

    Thise so called artist they never learn do they.

      Rob - 2012-07-06 17:19

      the lesson is in the art

      francois.breedt.16 - 2012-07-06 17:54

      It is only people with sngle digit IQ like you who dont understand Zapiro

      sango.jika - 2012-07-06 18:15

      @breedt you with your 2 digit IQ understand him i guess.

      aristar.aristary - 2012-07-07 00:19

      Respect is earned not taken. Zoomer does not deserve any respect while he keeps accumulating wives like a stamp collector. He has made this country a laughing stock and should be excised like the melanoma he is.

  • larysa.narozny - 2012-07-06 17:17

    Freedom of speech ?? Go Zapiro..... clearly the truth hurts :)

  • charmaine.rowlands - 2012-07-06 17:17

    " leading the ANC to believe all South Africans shared its "disgust" and were "equally offended". I wasn't, but i can't find the "offending" cartoon on line... damn :))

      Irene - 2012-07-06 17:55

      http://mg.co.za/zapiro/

  • John - 2012-07-06 17:19

    Well, a prick is a prick, you can’t disguise it.

  • malcolm.williams.144 - 2012-07-06 17:20

    Numsa said: "This is nothing else but a frontal attack on the personal integrity and social standing of the ANC president Jacob Zuma camouflaged as artistic expression." In-teg-ri-ty: adherence to moral and ethical principles; soundness of moral character; honesty.

      charmaine.rowlands - 2012-07-06 17:48

      "frontal" attack LOL

      aristar.aristary - 2012-07-07 00:21

      charmaine.rowlands - better than a rear attack, but that is what he has been doing to South Africa since he trounced Mbeki in that bloodless coup.

  • RemoteMedic - 2012-07-06 17:22

    This is Satire and is funny. Singing "Kill the Boer" is serious and isn't funny. Who has gone too far ANC???!!!

  • vivian.harris.73 - 2012-07-06 17:24

    'Taken aback by a cartoon'....yet kids got no text books for school, government officials corrupt as ever, RDP housing going nowhere, crime out of control, unemployment, healthcare a disgrace....etc. And again the fuss about a damn drawing.....focus on real issues!!!!

  • rational.faith - 2012-07-06 17:26

    Zapiro plays this quite well: he is in a safe place. JZ can't afford to make a case against him because then all his dirty laundry is going to be hung (excuse the pun). Although, having said that, I don't quite agree with the sentiment of the cartoon. I think there are more under-the-cover ways of saying what Zapiro is saying :-)

      aristar.aristary - 2012-07-07 00:22

      Unfortunately the government does not understand "under-the-cover". It has to be hit in the face to get the meaning.

  • George - 2012-07-06 17:27

    Zapiro is an idiot and a spent condom. He lacks creativity. Zuma bashing is the only thing keeping him in the limelight. Without bashing or disrespecting the president he has nothing to show. Hew has overstayed his welcome. He seeks attention by stupid means.

  • Duncan Colter - 2012-07-06 17:28

    When the ANCYL calls for war against farmers that's ok. Laughing at a white guy in congress, that's ok. Singing specific lyrics inciting violence and destruction is encouraged, but God forbid you mock the president!