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Don't be a moffie, child porn boy told

2011-03-17 22:38

Pretoria - A 10-year-old boy told police he had to have sex with his cousins, and when he complained his grandfather said he should "be a man and not a moffie", the Pretoria Magistrate's Court was told on Thursday.

The evidence was read from a forensic assessment of the boy at the bail hearing of his 31-year-old mother, one of nine people accused of a string of child pornography and related charges.

Prosecutor Brandon Lawrence, reading from the forensic report, quoted the boy saying he had to have vaginal and anal sex with his cousins. The boy told his interviewer he also had to perform oral sex.

"I wanted to vomit, but Oupa said I must be a man and not a moffie (homosexual)."

The 31-year old woman said her family was close, but did not know where the information in the forensic report came from. She denied any abuse took place.

She said that she and her husband had blue movies, but these had been hidden out of her son's reach. Lawrence told the court the boy described his father as "a bad daddy" and his mother as "not actually a bad person".

He said the woman knew what was happening, but according to her son did not do anything to stop the abuse, and on one occasion operated a camera.

The bail application was being heard by Magistrate Pierre Wessels.

Originally the woman had opposed having Wessels hear her bail application. Her lawyer Chris Greyvenstein had claimed she would not receive a fair hearing because Wessels had already denied her eight co-accused bail.

However, on March 8 the North Gauteng High Court in Pretoria ruled Wessels had conducted the proceedings properly so far and that the application had no merit.

The woman is believed to be the wife of accused number eight, and was arrested near Hammanskraal in January.

The group faces charges of rape, indecent assault, sexual grooming of children and possession, manufacturing and distribution of child pornography.

The eight arrested last year include a grandfather, 58, grandmother, 57, their two sons from previous relationships, aged 34 and 36, the grandfather's brother, 61, and his wife, 42, and their son, who is reportedly mentally disabled.

The 26-year-old wife of one of the sons was also arrested.

Six children, aged four and older, were allegedly used in sex movies which were then distributed.

Four other children were removed from the care of the accused and sent for psychological and medical tests.

During the bail applications in January, the court heard the State was investigating the possibility of a connection with a child pornography syndicate.

The woman's bail hearing continues on March 24.

The woman's eight co-accused are expected to appear in the Pretoria North Magistrate's Court on April 6, when it is expected that a decision will be made on whether to send the case to the regional court.

Comments
  • Annelie - 2011-03-17 23:13

    Lock them up and through away the key!! Sick family.

      Mebob - 2011-03-18 07:27

      What is more worrying than this family being sick, is that there is a market for the type of movies they made.The world is infested with people of this calibre.This is a small group that got caught, what about all those that are getting away with it?

      Flee - 2011-03-18 08:36

      Mebob.... agree, The raid they did yesterday where the news said the largest child pornography ring had been cracked, the scary thing is the group had 70 000 Yup 70 000 subscribers... OMFGreatness that is sick....

      Gary - 2011-03-18 15:38

      Mebob ... have you never seen a picture of a naked woman or watched an "Adult" rated movie be it in private or on MNet etc. If so you are also part of the market and part of the problem

      reader1 - 2011-06-09 07:52

      @Gary - You are comparing adult porn with paedophilia...??????

  • Lezzom - 2011-03-17 23:24

    These are the dregs of humanity that infest our country. And DON'T tell me about that guilty until innocent shit. In this day and age there is no room for scum like this in society.Why would a ten year old boy lie about something as heinous as this.!!! Bail my a *&)(*&%*^*) s

      Johnny - 2011-03-18 10:04

      Grab the torches and pitch-forks. I am with you on this one...

      aardvarkie - 2011-12-01 14:29

      Agreed. I say hang 'em.

  • Michel - 2011-03-18 04:23

    I have no words

  • Xram62 - 2011-03-18 05:53

    This is the weak type of DNA that we as a society not only accepts, but protect, and uplift, and encourage, and employ, and motivate, and give "human rights" to. If we were wildebeest or zebra, these members of the herd would've been some predator's lunch ages ago. The death penalty's NOT a deterrent in any way, it's merely a mechanism to purge society of this type of low life scum that we do NOT need amongst us. Unfortunately we sit with them because we feel that they have "rights"....and we allow them to vote and breed. This type of support for weak DNA that should actually be terminated and not be allowed to live, will eventually be the downfall of the entire human race.

      Arend - 2011-03-18 06:35

      Xram62 You hit the nail right on the head. Thouh we are only voices in the dark.

      gen.mewmew - 2011-03-18 09:25

      you want to give the power of the death penalty to the anc? that would be genocide

      Ryanbrew - 2011-03-18 10:42

      It is amazing how we give these people rights, we allow them to carry on voting etc, yet they have robbed so many others of their rights... the children have been robbed of their rights... I believe that if you take someone elses rights away, you sacrifice your own... The only right you have is innocent until proven guilty... Once found guilty...

      Janine - 2011-03-18 11:17

      You sound scarily like Hitler.

      mbossenger - 2011-03-18 13:08

      @Janine - yep, very "social darwinist" statements and pretty scary. Where do we draw the line at the "weak DNA" we would like eliminated?

      reader1 - 2011-06-09 07:53

      Inbreeding causes weak DNA....

  • sinjoku1 - 2011-03-18 06:29

    This Judge running the case must be a type of Master Yoda..... How can he sit there and hear these testimonies and not jump over and crack some heads. I could not sit and listen to this. I would go Praying Mantis on these people.

      1gascan - 2011-03-18 07:43

      And you know what the sad thing is sinjoku1 - the judge has probably seen more than one case like this, maybe not so heinous, but we live in a society where crime and sick sick sick things like this become the norm. I pray for all children in this country (an article yesterday stated that 70 000 youths are infected with HIV - rape, consensual sex, parent to child transmission?) The list is endless, and like Arend says above, "we are only voices in the dark".

      Flee - 2011-03-18 08:40

      I would become a master in castration and mastectomy.. really maim the bloody freaks... He must have will power of note not to just shoot the f*ers...

  • boertjie - 2011-03-18 06:48

    bulle met horings! Skande.

  • Bachbabe - 2011-03-18 07:03

    How any "parent" can do this to a child of him/her, goes beyond me. Sick, sick, sick. Please, no bail. In fact - why even waste the court's time on a case like this? Send them to the tjoekie straight away - no parole, no time off for good behaviour, zilch. Better still, drop them down a mineshaft. Those poor children are warped forever.

  • steve.dupreez - 2011-03-18 07:04

    "She denied any abuse took place." - maybe we have different definitions of the word "abuse". Shameful!!

  • Currie_Mafia - 2011-03-18 07:28

    This "family" must be destroyed, burnt, chopped up,whatever...for destroying innocent lives !!!

  • 50something - 2011-03-18 07:49

    These people are sick to the core - lock them away for a loooong time

      Flee - 2011-03-18 08:40

      Lock then in a burning building more like it

  • Lawson - 2011-03-18 08:06

    A tsumani of tears because our beloved country weeps with you....

  • Drucilla Dragonfly - 2011-03-18 08:14

    "He said the woman knew what was happening, but according to her son did not do anything to stop the abuse, and on one occasion operated a camera." I've just brought up last night's dinner and breakfast!!

  • wlombard - 2011-03-18 08:19

    I know a lot has been talked about the death penalty and we shouldn't live in a society where it is an eye for an eye. But I feel this case is the exception to the rule. They deserve nothing less. There is now rehabilitating (alleged) criminals like these.

      Drucilla Dragonfly - 2011-03-18 08:32

      I agree with you. Many things in life can be forgiven, but not things done to children!

  • Clive25 - 2011-03-18 08:22

    Common thing!I've always wondered why these people have High walls in their houses, so this is what happens behind the walls. Even priests, man of god.

  • jenny.presto1 - 2011-03-18 08:28

    Publish their photos in every town - Filthy scum of the earth. Put them in jail with the worst kind forever, with minimum food (watery rotten potatoes)and dirty water to drink. Actually, I just had an idea .... GIVE THEM TO ME!! I will sell my soul to wreak havoc and hell on these vermin!

  • mm - 2011-03-18 08:52

    How sick must you be to convince even your children to participate in abusing your grandchildren or any child for that matter? Probably the "oupa" sexually groomed his own children when they were small to do this when they are adults. I agree that death penalty should apply in extreme cases like these, why should the taxpayer pay to try and rehabilitate these sickos. It breaks my heart to think that people that have children can abuse a child in any way while there are so many people out there that desperately want a child and cannot have one. There is NO forgiveness for things like, this none at all

      Readytogo - 2011-03-18 09:47

      They should have rather given them to a childless couple that would have loved them and shown them morality, instead of using them for their own gains.

  • Clive25 - 2011-03-18 09:07

    Thanks for ANC to bringing down Apartheid. I never thought pure race could do such a barbaric thing to their own blood. Again thanks for media freedom

      Zamaswazi - 2011-03-18 09:28

      It must be the ANC that made them do it. It's all a conspiracy to tarnish the lilly white image. The truth will come out. It's their culture to do such things, remember. The stats....

      Baboon sheperd - 2011-03-25 14:11

      It's only blacks who are capable of doing bad things. Whites are pure, perfect, haikona mathata!!

  • user_24 - 2011-03-18 09:23

    The scary thing is will the poor children be able to be rehabilitated, or will they grow up thinking this way of life is normal. It has already past a few generations, the chain goes on needs to be broken. I just pray the can be reformed to some level of civility.

      jessethomson42 - 2011-06-09 14:06

      yeah i think they had one to two uncial dads, considering how meany of the family where involved with the hole thing.

  • unrealchris - 2011-03-18 09:39

    SICK SICK SICK. I really hope they send these guys to jail for a really long time

  • brown_bread - 2011-03-18 09:41

    I cant say anything meaningful! this is too beyond words.

  • alousav - 2011-03-18 09:54

    What has become of the human race? It sickens me to read every day of some perverted humans performing horrific acts on others and when it is on children it is even worse. Whether it be murder, rape, torture, mutilation, bullying, etc etc. We live in a sick society!!!

  • Cyberfriend - 2011-03-18 10:02

    Hi to all,I know I am digressing off the subject a bit,I would like to know if others are in agreement that this sick behaviour is the result of our society condoning immorality even amongst our own children,for instance the way WE ALLOW our young girls TO dress,the music our youth listen and the movies they allowed to watch,we are not inculcating good values by permitting our children to the above.

      mbossenger - 2011-03-18 13:01

      I think it's a giant leap to go from "young girls dress immodestly" to "child pornography is acceptable". I'm not certain how you equate listening to certain types of music or watching certain movies leads to participation in child pornography?

  • Maryna123 - 2011-03-18 10:11

    No jail sentence please, it is going to cost the tax payer thousands+ for them to have a warm bed, three meals per day etc. and in a couple of years they will be out of jail just to continue what they started. One shot through each knee just for the joy of inflicting pain and after an hour or longer... a shot through the head, finish and klaar!!

      mbossenger - 2011-03-18 13:04

      So you would condone torturing them before killing them?

  • MactheKnife - 2011-03-18 10:13

    Sick!

  • dazzy - 2011-03-18 10:38

    These are evil people. Taliking about psycopaths - it like the whole family is psyco. i just feel sorry for the poor kids coz they'll be disturbed for the rest of their lives because of the bustard family they have from grandparents to parents. Damn some people are evil seriously.

  • Mmakadikwe1 - 2011-03-18 10:40

    @Clive 25 - Are you saying that this is the first time in as many years as you can remember that a white family was involved in crimes such as this? Untill such time that you grow that little peaunut brain of yours to understand that people commit crime to generate wealth,I don't see how you can ever claim to be wise dude.The ANC government has got nothing to do with your sick mind and the way people conduct themselves on a daily basis.I would not blame the Apartheid government for the rapes that are committed or were committed by individuals during the Apartheid era since we all make choices how to live our lives.Your idea of spreading so much lies about the government is very sickening and unconstructive towards building a society with moral values.And believe me, this is got nothing to do with race but a sick minded part of our society with no concience or whatsoever.Iam very disapointed to see how some of the people can use each and every excuse especially on forums like this to undermine certain races and in particular the ANC government.But what you don't realise is that,the more you show hatred towards this government, is the more you encourage us never to trust a white man again in our country.Your amount of hatred and disrespect towards black people can only make us even more scared of you and stay as far away from the idea of ever having a white led government as we can.I hope you realise how much damage you are causing with your stupid propaganda.

      Cyberfriend - 2011-03-18 11:57

      I agree,the comments made here can cause so much damage to building this nation,hopefully a reminder may change the mindset of racist people to stop encouraging people to hate,many people could be hurt through one persons racist comment.

      Krush - 2011-03-18 12:37

      @Mmakadikwe1. The guy was being sarcastic. He is all for the ANC and anti-white. It's your own people that spew propaganda.

      Bumblebee - 2011-03-18 13:39

      OH PLEASE ... SPARE ME THE BULLSH@T ... YOU DON'T NEED A REASON TO HATE WHITES ... IT IS IN YOUR DNA.

      VJ - 2011-03-24 14:58

      ag shame Mmakadikwe1 - cry me a river.

      Lauren - 2011-03-24 16:00

      Mmakadikwe, Clive25 is pro ANC and is saying that it's a good thing that media freedom allows everybody to know that the pure white race is capabale of crime (I'm explaining the comment, not agreeding or otherwise). The supporter of his comment goes on to agree and state that it is in the gense of white people to commit such crimes. So, there you have it. It's not a white person having a go at a black person, it's the other way around. Are you still dissapointed?

      Lauren - 2011-03-24 16:03

      Just to explain it to you a bit better: Clive says: Thanks for ANC to bringing down Apartheid. I never thought pure race could do such a barbaric thing to their own blood. Again thanks for media freedom. Ergo, thank you ANC for allowing this to be reported on. Zamaswazi says: Thanks for ANC to bringing down Apartheid. I never thought pure race could do such a barbaric thing to their own blood. Again thanks for media freedom Ergo: It's in a white man's genes to do such things. Again, Mmakadikwe, are you still dissapointed? Does the post still cause damage?

      Lauren - 2011-03-24 16:04

      Correction, Zamaswasi posts: It must be the ANC that made them do it. It's all a conspiracy to tarnish the lilly white image. The truth will come out. It's their culture to do such things, remember. The stats.... Anyway, same sentiment. You are shouting at the wrong people here.

  • Janine - 2011-03-18 11:16

    Sickening.

  • Snoopy88 - 2011-03-18 12:04

    To let someone do that to your child? The grandfather and his brother - they are the start of this sick situation. But they were probably abused themselves... I really hope every one of these kids gets the best psychological treatement possible. And I hope its enough to end it with them. What some people will do for money... because let's face it, that's why they got the kids to have sex on camera.

  • Krush - 2011-03-18 12:29

    Let them rot.

  • Jennifer - 2011-03-18 12:58

    I am actually at a loss for words here, These people know they are guilty and still they try and defend themselves. I really don't know what to say!!!

  • BeagleFigo - 2011-03-18 15:10

    Absolutely DISGUSTING......!!!! Lock them up and throw the key away where no one can find it.

  • Colin - 2011-03-19 09:26

    To hell with trials, just lock the whole bloody lot up with HARD manual labour for a minimum of 30 years each. Make this type of sentence for all porn video manufacturers/distributors. Should put a stop to this type industry.

  • Brenda - 2011-03-20 16:13

    Shocking. Every time I read things like this, my blood boils. Just shoot them all. Use them as target practice or feed them to the lions.

  • VJ - 2011-03-24 15:01

    I say kill them all, show them no mercy.....!!! the didn't give these children any mercy. There are people out there that struggles with infertility and these bastards destroy there children, there own blood. Kill them all.

  • leeupan - 2011-04-06 15:22

    This family is really a bunch of sick people. I hope they never see freedom again!!!

  • frankm - 2011-06-08 23:16

    Bloody sick perverts, and the people who buy and watch this krap are just as guilty. Hang the whole bloody perverted lot of them

  • Octarin - 2011-10-26 13:35

    Yeap. God Bless Anonymous for taking down 40 pedo porn servers on Darknet. Kill all them bitches imo. No mercy. Just no mercy whatsoever. No trial, no jury, no judges, stand them up against the wall and shoot them, and then bury them in an unmarked grave.

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