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Education minister accused of lying

2012-06-24 12:03

Johannesburg - Basic Education Minister Angie Motshekga has not fired former education minister Anis Karodia, despite telling the media she had done so, it was reported on Sunday.

Motshekga had blamed Karodia for the department's failure to deliver textbooks to Limpopo pupils.

However, in a letter sent on 14 May, she apparently thanked him for his "sterling work" in the province, City Press reported.

He was scheduled to join the education intervention team in the Eastern Cape, but declined and went back into retirement.

"Motshekga must apologise to me and speak the truth to the public," Karodia told the newspaper. "She must clear my name and speak the truth."

Karodia told City Press the province's previous administrator had underestimated the complexity of the delivery.

Severe problems

The Sunday Times reported that, in an open letter to Motshekga, six civil society organisations said they were "deeply concerned" by the failure to deliver textbooks despite a court order to do so.

The letter was signed by the Legal Resources Centre, Section 27, Equal Education, the Centre for Child Law, the Centre for Applied Legal Studies, and the Equal Education Law Centre.

They cited several problems, including the state of school infrastructure in townships and rural areas, the shortage of desks and chairs, the non-delivery of books, and the failure to combat rising sexual violence and corporal punishment.

The magnitude of the problems represented "a catastrophic failure in the public education system." the weekly newspaper reported.

A City Press editorial asserted that education was in crisis and slammed Motshekga's description of the state's failure to deliver textbooks as "a problem, not a crisis".

"The minister is wrong. We have a crisis," according to the editorial.

"No amount of nonchalance or evasion by the education department can change the fact that when children have to rely on courts to get textbooks it means we have deep-seated problems in our education system."

Comments
  • Henk - 2012-06-24 12:06

    Always cloak and dagger stuff to hide their incompetence!

      faizieishlah.shabalala - 2012-06-24 12:18

      How do you known when the government official is lying. When their lips move

      Robin - 2012-06-24 12:38

      Why not some mob justice in the communities when she's out on a field trip 'visiting schools'

      gerhard.kress.3 - 2012-06-24 13:05

      She probably believes her own lies.

      lownabester - 2012-06-24 13:05

      Look at the photo in today's Sunday Times, Books get crushed, New books not delivered. Time for this lady to go and find a cleaner's job, Not fit to hold office.

      Squeegee - 2012-06-24 13:21

      The minister said: "For which lies must I apologize? I tell so many, you must show me which one..."

      zeekoevlei - 2012-06-24 13:29

      @ Alicia, you are absolutely right. Nowadays it is new text books every single year, and they are very costly. Schools don't supply textbooks anymore. My son is in matric this year, and it has cost me a small fortune for text books and guides. None of that was needed when I was at school as it was all supplied.

      sergio.coelho.3114 - 2012-06-24 16:34

      Have you no heart? Are you completely unproductive and sterile? Do you find more compassion in your rich plastic credit card? You have so much faults and yet you seek praises, admirations and applauses. Your arrogance has made you blind and the truth you say dances harmoniously in circles around your middle finger with the hopes and inspirations of our children. Do you find humour in the sadness you bring? Do you laugh at the tears of parents as you hide the darkness of a hurtful future? You insincere, deceitful, rotten, public snake, your greed compliments your importance of a great reality filled with lies. You have no moral fiber, no decency, no regret, no remorse, none what’s so ever…DON’T you know what you have been entrusted with; DON’T you know what our deepest creation is; DON’T you know where our devoted love is; DON’T you know where our soul heartened with care rest? YOU should be alluring our children by the gentleness to the love of learning. But I guess STEEL then from a better future leaves you at more ease, more relaxed, more flamboyant, more sexy, more distinctive, more SENSELESS and more HONOURABLE…then again your world of fantasies with great lies caught in works of honest fiction pardons you by a bias legal society....your contaminated fiction rots the truth and decency of reality.

  • oscar.vanriel - 2012-06-24 12:07

    ...and then she is so beautiful as well, some people have all the luck.

      ianon.ym - 2012-06-24 12:14

      HeHe ...

      fanie.gerber.98 - 2012-06-24 12:23

      ....might be if you are an absolute troll....That face will cause nightmares to have nightmares

      Brad.Kopping - 2012-06-24 12:23

      PMPL!!!! DUDE !!! xD

      catgirl1971 - 2012-06-24 12:37

      And her fat rolls have fat rolls. Life on the gravy train is good!

      alf.pop - 2012-06-24 19:53

      Oscar, have some compassion. She was born ugly andthen somebody scared her!

      antin.herinck - 2012-06-24 22:52

      This a very non-PC subject, Oscar, you shameless flatterer you. But the ugly stick was beaten to splinters on her. BTW did anybody note how the ANC must be unique in the world viz. their ample supply of fat-ugly higher echelon members? Where else in the world is a ruling party the refuge for the obese and the ugly?

      Koos - 2012-06-25 05:20

      Can she blame Apartheid for her looks?

      ackwell - 2012-06-25 09:43

      She would look much better wearing a necklace (Firestone)

      Clive - 2012-06-25 10:01

      Come on guys, her looks are irrelevant. You are simply lowering the tone of debate in what is a very serious matter.

  • Gielman - 2012-06-24 12:15

    Where do they find all these ugly looking people??? man...

      jacqui.daanevanrensburg - 2012-06-24 13:12

      They use to be Umkondo's cooks in Zambia.

      Gielman - 2012-06-24 13:43

      ROFL... What a lot of flippen fugly people they are! They honestly look like a sick prank. Characters from a mad cartoon...

      bob.small.7547 - 2012-06-24 22:41

      Ugly.....and stupid!

  • jean.tredoux.5 - 2012-06-24 12:17

    The fact that she has ignored a court order says to me she should have been arrested. How difficult can it be to get the right people to do the job? It's just time that they admit the color of your skin does not make you competent and that we have a lot of people in this country that can get education back on track.

      flysouth - 2012-06-24 14:12

      There must be, and I know there are, competent and conscientious black people to do these jobs. But what is extraordinary is that the ANC manages to invariably appoint the entirely wrong ones! By the simple law of averages how can it be that all government institutions are staffed and headed by the worst of the worst - the liars, thieves, incompetent and unconcerned. Pure dumb luck would surely mean that sometimes, just sometimes, they would appoint a decent person. You can deduce from this that pure dumb luck and the law of averages have little to do with it - it is the ANC's archaic struggle ideology based on communistic ideas, that leads to this negation of happenstance. The only people who will be appointed must be, according to this ideology, of the sort who will faithfully ascribe to the ideology. To ascribe to the ANC ideology one has to put aside all one's knowledge of realities,common-sense and most of what normal people, black and white, would call 'decency'. Thus only those stupid enough and morally-bankrupt enough will ascribe and be appointed. QED

      Clive - 2012-06-25 10:03

      Spot on, flysouth.

  • alf.pop - 2012-06-24 12:21

    Jan: The degrees are degrees of incompetence. She is incompetent, arrogant, obese, a liar, in short - the ideal ANC minister! To make matters worse, she is also allowed to vote and squander taxpayers' money!

  • Joggie At SecondBonds - 2012-06-24 12:22

    Bantu Education at work.

  • prakash.singh.169 - 2012-06-24 12:25

    CRISIS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! WHAT CRISIS!!!!!!!!!!!!!! THE ANC IS ABOVE THE LAW VOTERS PLEASE DO NOT VOTE ANC

      alf.pop - 2012-06-24 19:51

      I agree, rather vote CNA. At least you stand a chance to find somebody literate!

  • Billy - 2012-06-24 12:25

    both of them should be fired

      Juan - 2012-06-24 13:22

      And so should the people who appointed them and who are now standing by and doing nothing.

  • don.richards.1044 - 2012-06-24 12:26

    LMAO...so Sibongile Nhlabathi .....where are your big mouth comments now?

  • nompilo.makhanya - 2012-06-24 12:28

    The running of any department takes a team. In this case the minister and the deputy.when the department fails,should not both the minister and deputy be held liable? Why should the minister point fingers and then be given liberty to fire her deputy? Where was she when her deputy was not delivering.The minister clearly does not know what's happening not only in her department but also with her closest employee, her second in charge. They both have failed and I wonder if the children, grandchildren of the minister and deputy went to public schools how well run this education system would be. This happened because they don't care about this countries education. Maybe its time people who are not only competent but who also care are placed in these positions. How are future leaders of South Africa supposed to become the leaders that are needed if their own education system fails them?

      jacqui.daanevanrensburg - 2012-06-24 13:14

      Nompilo, I agree. All those responsible shoud be fired, including the Minister.

      jo.vankatwijk - 2012-06-24 17:51

      The buck stops with her!

      kevin.day.7370 - 2012-06-25 09:40

      I love the way you think! I hope many more of our people see it your way. Our ministers get fat salaries for the RESPONSIBILITY they take on, so when things don't work or fail horribly, THEY are responsible and THEY must do something about it or lose their job/salary/car/expense account. No good will be done by investigating who was responsible, the person they seek is in the mirror! Worse still, if this carries on for much longer, then they won't be able to blame the legacy of apartheid because the problem rose during THEIR time in charge. It's a crime that our children can't be educated because of administrative incompetence.....

  • nompilo.makhanya - 2012-06-24 12:28

    The running of any department takes a team. In this case the minister and the deputy.when the department fails,should not both the minister and deputy be held liable? Why should the minister point fingers and then be given liberty to fire her deputy? Where was she when her deputy was not delivering.The minister clearly does not know what's happening not only in her department but also with her closest employee, her second in charge. They both have failed and I wonder if the children, grandchildren of the minister and deputy went to public schools how well run this education system would be. This happened because they don't care about this countries education. Maybe its time people who are not only competent but who also care are placed in these positions. How are future leaders of South Africa supposed to become the leaders that are needed if their own education system fails them?

      sergio.coelho.3114 - 2012-06-24 17:34

      Why should she be in office if she cant cherish what parents value the most?!

  • Lacrimose - 2012-06-24 12:35

    The ANC wouldn't be the ANC without at least one crisis a month. They are masters at turning simple problems into crises. It doesn't take a degree to ensure books get to where they need to be. The fact that not one single person in the entire structure has been able to step-up and DO something even after a court order, shows they can't manage their way out of a paper-bag let alone a paperback

      tsietsi.mshengu - 2012-06-24 13:44

      I fully agree with you Lacrimose. They really know how to make a bad situation worse. They make blunders in quick succession. Nothing is gonna stop them, they are the masters of this art.

  • winifred.watson.9 - 2012-06-24 12:35

    Exactly what I have said numerous times. Miss arrogance at her best. She will not give up her wonderful lifestyle, she will rather put the blame on other people but in reality, she is the minister and she should be working in her dept but instead she has been caught sleeping on the job. So now the blame game starts. It is what we voted for, everything crashing down around us. She is playing with our childrens futures why so she can hang on to a HOLLYWOOD LIFESTYLE as Lamola stated. Where is Zuma, why isnt he doing something at least speaking up........sorry can you speak louder we cant hear you. Maybe she also has her backside so far up jz's backside thats why there is a stillness in the land of zuma. This has to be an absolute disgrace to the nation.

      tasmee.hylkema - 2012-06-24 13:45

      Her head up Zuma's backside would be a huge improvement! LOL!

  • mkhuseli.njamela - 2012-06-24 12:38

    What do expect from her and her president, damn this people are taking our country to the dogs...

  • dean.polley.3 - 2012-06-24 12:40

    "Karodia told City Press the province's previous administrator had underestimated the complexity of the delivery" "Complexity of the delivery"? Are we talking about delivery of text books to schools? You mean, have list of schools, determine number of books to be delivered, have location of schools, schedule delivery dates, load books on trucks, drive to said locations and unload books on arrival at destination. Yep, that sounds extremely complex! And this is the year 2012? Try delivering something to the International Space Station - now that's what I would call a complex delivery!

      Juan - 2012-06-24 13:29

      Have you ever considered the logistical difficulties in delivering supplies to military outposts in a war zone? Supplies which people's lives depend on. Now there are people that does that and get's it right 99% of the time, but in Africa we can't get books to a school, oh dear how f**n pathetic.

      mikenortje - 2012-06-24 13:56

      @ Dean a South African (Mr Elon Musk) has already delivered cargo to the International Space Station .... maybe some one from the ANC needs to give him a call, seeing as it's so complex. For those of you who don't know Mr Elon Musk was born and raised in SA (Pretoria)and co-invented Pay Pal and then went onto found SpaceX which is the first PRIVATE (not nationalised in ANCYL speak)company to do commercial space delivery of goods to the International Space Station. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elon_Musk http://www.spacex.com/updates.php

  • Lindelwa - 2012-06-24 12:41

    Liars!! Liars!! Liars!! That's what the ANC excells in. Remove the ANC from government in the next elections!!

  • mkhuseli.njamela - 2012-06-24 12:43

    I feel sorry the people of this country u get what u voted for, dont expect excellence whilst u voted for mediocrity. Ha ha ha

      Irene - 2012-06-24 14:58

      mkhuseli ~ Even calling them mediocre is taking it way too far.

  • mkhuseli.njamela - 2012-06-24 12:44

    I feel sorry the people of this country u get what u voted for, dont expect excellence whilst u voted for mediocrity. Ha ha ha

  • mkhuseli.njamela - 2012-06-24 12:44

    I feel sorry the people of this country u get what u voted for, dont expect excellence whilst u voted for mediocrity. Ha ha ha

  • trudiroos.potter - 2012-06-24 12:46

    Google her picture, shame she has put on some weight. They say insomnia makes you snack the whole day. If she is not sleeping it is not because of the state of education in the country. Shame, poor thing must be something else.................

  • fred.erasmus.12 - 2012-06-24 12:47

    And so they keep the masses uneducated and the masses keep voting for them.

      lownabester - 2012-06-24 13:10

      So right, 100% with you, Fred,

  • Stewart Croucamp - 2012-06-24 12:49

    The books are not late, they are in time for next years students!

      Pieriewaaier - 2012-06-24 13:45

      Unless of course - and there's a big probability - they change the curriculum again. They just loving doing that!!

  • mkhuseli.njamela - 2012-06-24 12:52

    This government doesn't care about the people of the Eastern cape and Limpopo province it a shame I must say. When were fighting for our land they were around...

      claire.c.stiles - 2012-06-24 12:58

      This government doesn't care about anyone. All they concerned about is taking our money and stuffing their pockets.

      Phepishi - 2012-06-25 13:28

      And ironically that where they get of the votes! are they afraid if they get educated they won't vote for them again?

  • rick.coetzee.7 - 2012-06-24 12:56

    One of the most important portfolios run by one of the most useless ministers. So blatantly obvious that she does not have what it takes to do this very important job.

  • lownabester - 2012-06-24 13:09

    When a bunch of idiots are running our country, can we expect anything better????? No, They are all nightmares and failing the youth of this country, Idiots liars, corruption.........and the list go on.

      jacqui.daanevanrensburg - 2012-06-24 13:17

      Lownabester, yes and the biggest idiot is having a ball in Brazil, where his new found friends are doing their best to destroy the Amazon.

  • sizwe.schoeman - 2012-06-24 13:10

    Hawu bathong, wenzani lomama nesingesi sakhe esi tops??

  • jacqui.daanevanrensburg - 2012-06-24 13:11

    When they removed her mole, they cut too deep and removed her brain as well. Mind you not that anyone will notice..

  • roy.wadhams.1 - 2012-06-24 13:14

    Did we expect anything different from any lying corrupt ANC government official? This is why everything that one can think of in this country,is so backward,because people like this sit in high places doing nothing but live in comfort on taxpayers money.

  • wendy.n.schmidt - 2012-06-24 13:17

    Is there one politician in the ANC that is actually honest?

  • Stewart Croucamp - 2012-06-24 13:21

    ANC leader: We want to slow down the number of people passing at school, until we find out how to create jobs.

  • di.hingley - 2012-06-24 13:22

    While we complain about these ministers, the children are missing out on their right to education, the DA offered to get the books there, the offer was refused!!! Could it be that the ANC is doing what educators have been saying for years...Keep them uneducated and they become easy to manipulate!!!! I pray this is NOT so!!!!

  • ken.grimblegrumble - 2012-06-24 13:27

    I say let her keep her job, in the hope that next year she continues to excel in 'teaching' the population the lesson they deserve about voting for the ANC. It's called tough love.

      Stewart Croucamp - 2012-06-24 13:31

      I agree Ken.

      tsietsi.mshengu - 2012-06-24 13:59

      Ken, we can't blame the masses that much because most of them don't have access to unbiased information like you and I. All that they are told is that things are still bad because of apartheid and/or the white man. So they need to be enlightened bit by bit. Eventually, we're will get there and remove these nincompoops from power. One day is one day.

      kevin.day.7370 - 2012-06-25 09:48

      Tsietsi, you have raised one of the most important points that many of us do not know about. The apartheid regime is still being blamed for a lot of things that our 'government' can't/doesn't want to get right. Education is the only way to get past that, which is why it is vital to make sure our youth are properly brought up.

  • tsietsi.mshengu - 2012-06-24 13:30

    It becomes clearer by the day that our country is ruled by incompetent and lying cr**ks. Now it is up to us to enlighten our fellow South Africans who do not have access to information as we do. It is the ANC's strategy to keep the illiterate and therefore ignorant so that they remain the voting fodder that they are currently.

      retha.vosloo.5 - 2012-06-24 13:44

      In the Freedom Charter they call their followers 'peasants'. What does it say? I agree with you Tsietsi.

      Lacrimose - 2012-06-24 16:23

      Golden opportunity for ANCYL missed. They could have shamed the govt and helped the youth they represent by getting those books distributed themselves. We all realise by now the govt is totally crippled by its own bureaucracy. ANCYL could have shown them how it can be done.

  • richard.aytoun - 2012-06-24 13:36

    Only 1 thing to do - FIRE HER!

  • tasmee.hylkema - 2012-06-24 13:40

    When children have to rely on courts to get textbooks, in my books that constitutes a major crisis, not a problem! Maybe if our ESTEEMED minister regards the issue with the seriousness it deserves, there may be hope! As long as she adopts the ostrich attitude, the problem will remain one that will ultimately produce unemployable, uneducated youth!

      Irene - 2012-06-24 15:04

      ...... produce unemployable, uneducated youth who will then go on to demand 'economic freedom' and want the mines nationalised because they're unable to do anything for themselves and too uneducated to realise that what they want is actually going to harm them.

  • Stewart Croucamp - 2012-06-24 13:42

    Are you crazy Richard. She wants to ride on the gravy train.

  • Florence - 2012-06-24 13:45

    Being fat, shapeless and ugly gives you guarantees a ticket to Ministerial position in the ANC, simple as that...

      Pieriewaaier - 2012-06-24 13:52

      @ Florence: The fact that she may be fat, shapeless and ugly is neither here nor there. It's of no consequence. What is important is that she - and apparantly most of the ANC ministers in cabinet - are woefully incompetent and self-serving, averse to accountability and, like their corrupt boss, Zuma, hell bent on dooming the youth of this country, to eternal servitude, poverty and no hope. How is it still possible that the majority of thee poor and unemployed youth cannot see through this gross and unchecked disrespect and wanton destruction of a prosperous future for ALL South Africans? Totally beyond me. Just do not understand this psyche at all!

      Florence - 2012-06-24 14:20

      The basis of shape, size, dullness, clumsiness and overweight are absolute credentials for such high positions in the ANC rather than the desired merits to take the country forward. It is sickening and pathetic...

  • felix.calitz - 2012-06-24 13:50

    To deny children access to all that constitutes basic education – dedicated teachers, quality facilities, dignity and respect – is simply an act of terrorism against those children and their future in this country; there is a sharp sword waiting.

  • ian.pohl.1 - 2012-06-24 13:51

    At what point does Zuma actually get involved and do (HIS JOB)... damage control and actually run this country. Or is he just going to sit around and watch like he does with everything else.

      andrew.pottow - 2012-06-24 13:58

      Zuma is playing the course. He's realised our electorate is uninformed and uneducated. So if he keeps himself out of the spotlight, he does not associate himself with incompetance and can get away with a cabinet reshuffle every year or so to make it look like he's serious about service delivery and the electorate eat it up while he's actually playing the politician - keeping his cabinet full of allies rather than being a statesman!

  • Gerhard1Marais - 2012-06-24 13:57

    Question do these ministers go for a physcological assessment before they get office?

      Sharon - 2012-06-24 14:47

      you must be joking

      Irene - 2012-06-24 15:07

      They get the job based on their 'struggle' credentials and level of incompetency and corruptness. The worse they are, the higher the position.

  • fonnie.smit - 2012-06-24 13:59

    Why waste resources to supply illiterate teachers with books to confuse the poor "amaplasie" children. Rather create a new subsidy for good comrade voters.

  • Jazzy - 2012-06-24 14:00

    I think it's time the cabinet was reshuffled again.

  • Jazzy - 2012-06-24 14:04

    Is there some way we can get these posts to the presidential hotline?

      di.hingley - 2012-06-24 15:07

      https://www.facebook.com/PresidencyZA Try this Jazzy.

      Erna - 2012-06-24 18:48

      Do you really think he will have the time 'to apply his mind'?

  • peter.mokoena.31 - 2012-06-24 14:11

    If Zuma was serious about firing people, Angie should have been on top of the list, w e will see if that would happen.

  • sizwe.bwana - 2012-06-24 14:13

    18 years later and still struggling... Too much party, whiskey, women, song, making babies.... You people expect too much....

  • tyron.fawcett - 2012-06-24 14:19

    Great example your seting for our Children, Our Future. Ill say it again educated people will not vote for ANC thats why MR Zuma doesnt give two Sh1ts. Some times i wonder what goes through the head of the leader of this country when he reads the hedlines? How can he sleep at night when his people are homless hungry and jobless. Yes its always easier to make comments from the other side of the fence, But what is the ANC actually doing to resolve South Africa's issues? And to the ANC youth league scum, where do you think the money will go if mines and farms are nationalized? Lets me tell you, these industries that are the back bone of this country will be sucked dry so our leaders can add to there ofsore slush fund, while you and me suffer.

  • zolisa.dlokovu - 2012-06-24 14:24

    Another disgrace.Jacob Zuma administration.

  • vivian.harris.73 - 2012-06-24 14:33

    At the end of the day people will still vote for the ANC cause they don't know better....and that's the ANC's plan to stay in power.

  • lynn.syme.1 - 2012-06-24 14:39

    Very strong evidence of "keeping them dumb". Throw KFC and T-shirts at the voters but keep them dumb. It's the old ploy of all communists. Liberation before education and then what? KFC before education. Sorry all - you get the Government you deserve.

  • Sharon - 2012-06-24 14:42

    look at that face - what a beauty queen - what a trusting expression and that look of intelligence,does this not give one confidence in our future. some people are born to be on radio,not in the public eye