Education the way out of poverty - Motlanthe

2011-06-25 22:06

Johannesburg - Deputy President Kgalema Motlanthe said the most effective way of eradicating poverty was by encouraging young people to go to school and learn skills, SABC radio news reported on Saturday.

Motlanthe was visiting Phillipstown near De Aar in the Northern Cape as part of his assessment of the War on Poverty programme.

He said a number of young people in the area who dropped out of school, had been identified and said when it came to education, immediate intervention was needed.

The children had to be taken back to school after the winter holidays.

An educated society was the key to winning the battle against poverty, Motlanthe said.

He also visited a number of impoverished households including the one of 51-year-old Marie Gqooqo.

Her poverty stricken lifestyle caught Motlanthe's attention and he arranged for immediate intervention.

The Gqooqo family was immediately provided with food parcels, blankets and mattresses.

The provincial government promised Motlanthe that the family would be provided with a house by next year.

  • thobsion.ANC - 2011-06-25 22:11

    keep you promise.

      Jousa van Dyk - 2011-06-25 22:20

      That is why we need education. Too bad it had been replaced with KFC and lies.

      ???? - 2011-06-25 22:47

      Education is the way out of poverty,alternatively you can join the ANCYL.

      zaatheist - 2011-06-26 04:46

      Just think of the effect on the country if the billions wasted on the arms deal had been invested in education ten years ago.

      Francois - 2011-06-26 07:30

      Moltande is just spoofing some popular gibberish. Everybody knows that, just as everybody knows that SADTU is part of Cosatu which has Moltande's party at a critical part of the anatomy. Come on Moltande, tell Cosatu to go and you fight SADTU and elections on your own - then you would have acted on what everybody knows. In education everybody knows the boat is leaking and everybody knows the captain lied, he got some of those millions of the arms deal money to which zaatheist is referring.

      horsehair - 2011-06-26 08:06


      Francois - 2011-06-26 08:42

      Sorry Moltande, just another curve ball. How come Zimbabwe, that is so educated, is so poor that they ask us, who is so uneducated, for money? Welcome to an African solution to an African problem by....tadaa....Thabo Mbeki and now also Moltande!

      Zinki - 2011-06-26 09:03

      WOW! They only just realised now how terribly important an education is! We have known it all along. Good luck to the ANC for trying to get those kids that have dropped out of school back into the classroom. By this time they have learnt bad habits i.e. boozing, drugs etc. I know from my worker's son. The school system needs to be TOTALLY revamped first and discipline instilled in the teachers first. Only then can there be hope to keep kids in school. How do they think the kids will want to carrying on attending school when the teachers themselves don't pitch half the time?

      Goldenk9 - 2011-06-26 10:14

      @Francois, Exactly the point. Zimbabweans are so educated that they found it not worth it to splash the country with blood during the worst times under the dictator, Roberto, but chose to come to SA to take our jobs and our women. Never be fooled that most of the crime perpetrated in SA is done by foreigners, especially Zimbabweans. Its not true, and we all know it. Our jails are not filled with Zimbabweans, but by our very own uneducated brothers and sisters, who can can not stand by themselves, but look up to the government for basics everyday.

      onetickie - 2011-06-26 10:26

      @thobsion.ANC: You need more education if you still believe any of the promises made by the ANC govenment. And like it or not, Kader Asmal was the one who decided to change the education system in SA and regardless of his death, he should/must be held accountable for his appalling bungling of the education system.

      cliffarc - 2011-06-26 10:48

      - Nothing more than tired rhetoric from the Anc. They're always good on the talk , but nowhere when it comes to action and implementation.

      cliffarc - 2011-06-26 12:13

      - So it's education for the masses, but corruption and thieving for the Anc's elite , to get out of poverty. Zuma , Malema and all the other cronies have achieved their fortunes with the lowest levels of education.

      Allieo - 2011-06-26 15:16

      Yes, yes!!! Ok now let's start by sending the president to school.....

      Virginia - 2011-06-27 10:28

      Why would you want to waste money on education when the youngsters see you can become President without and education and then they have Julius Malema as another roll model.We have Ministers that talk with a fork tongue, how can they preach education, when they allow someone like Malem to be in cahrge of the youth???

  • TamaraSays - 2011-06-25 22:17

    The voice of reason among the screams of the insane. I wonder how many will listen?

      john - 2011-06-25 23:12

      It is the voice of reason to a point. But it's more than education, it's insight. I know many degreed people who come out of varsity and say "OK, I have an education, now the government must give me a job". If the main thing they've learned is that they must depend on the State for everything, and that no options exist outside becoming a tenderpreneur or a BEE appointment in a State department or parastatal, then they haven't learned much. What we need is more people like Mark Shuttleworth, people who didn't necessarily receive an education that fits exactly with what they end up doing, but who can nevertheless analyse a situation and find a niche that they can market. You can be educated without being insightful, resourceful and innovative. People like Richard Branson, Sol Kerzner, Bill Gates didn't succeed because they were the most educated. They succeeded because they had dreams, took chances, used their heads. One person without a tertiary education but with Sol Kerzner's drive and vision does more for the country than 5000 BA graduates claiming "the government must give me a job now". Throughout the continent, Africans are far too Socialist, ie reliant on the State for everything and not seeing beyond the very limited opportunities that the State can provide. Degreed govt clerks and middle management don't drive the economy, entrepreneurs do. It's a big world and big market out there. Africans need to stop hanging on the coat-tails of the party they vote for.

      TamaraSays - 2011-06-26 01:08

      John, when I talk about education, I'm not even talking about degrees. I'm talking about a high school education. I totally agree that a degree is often less important than an entrepreneurial mind. It's also not as important as a love of learning, or reading. Going to university, just to get a piece of paper, and just scraping through your course does not a genius make. We have to start somewhere though, and if many of our people don't even understand how the economy works, let alone where they fit in, and how they can contribute without stealing, then there's no wonder we're in trouble.

      Marcell - 2011-06-26 07:26

      Education is one thing, QUALITY education is something else.

      saliem - 2011-06-26 10:05

      I agree in most part with what you say @John... @Tamara also has a point. People like Kerzner might not have a "formal" tertiary education, but have clearly acquired the competence of well schooled graduates via lessons learned in the school of life. People should realise that the ultimate purpose of a tertiary education, is being taught how to learn - thus, one often finds SUCCESSFUL graduates moving into fields that seem far removed from their direction of study. In my personal case, I graduated with a BSC (comp studies) but have set up and am managing a highly successful portable toilet enterprise. Graduates who sit back and wait for government intervention to find jobs have clearly failed. I know several who graduated with me, who fit this assertion... hence the input (time and resources) into their education has been wasted.

      john - 2011-06-26 10:50

      Well, Kerzner does have a degree, he's a chartered accountant. But my point is that it's not the degree that made him a hotel magnate. It might have helped a bit but it was his own drive and vision that turned him into what he is. Over the years, I have had many illiterate domestic workers and gardeners. Not one has ever come to me and asked me if I'd teach them to read and write. I'd happily do it but they never ask. In Africa, the onus is on me to GIVE them what they need. There is seemingly no onus on them to work proactively for it. If the govt or white employers don't GIVE them everything they need, then they give up. My current gardener is such a refreshing change from the norm. He's a livewire who has dreams of running his own painting business. He got his job with me not by standing at that gate with a hangdog face and saying "I'm asking the piece job". He did it by telling me "Your gutters are in bad shape. They're blocked by leaves and the paint is cracked and peeling off. If you don't do something about it now, you're going to have serious problems later. I can fix it for you. Oh and by the way, I also do gardening, minor building and maintenance work too." I gave him the job on the spot. Because here is someone who understands how life works and who makes the effort to market himself. He asks me constantly for help with his business - can I design a brochure for him, can I print him some letterheads, etc. Cont'd below.

      john - 2011-06-26 11:06

      And I'm always very happy to help him. Because he understands the fundamental principle that he must go out and create his own success, nobody is going to GIVE it to him. He's offering a service and he's busting a gut to make his service professional and appealing to customers. This is what the Malema-supporting disenchanted masses don't grasp: the world does not owe you a living because you were oppressed. Japan didn't GIVE its wealth to China because it oppressed them. The UK didn't GIVE its wealth to America for oppressing them. China and the US became wealthy not by demanding compensation for past injustices. They did it by working their backsides off to make a better mousetrap and sell those mousetraps to customers who used to buy from Britain and Japan. And they succeeded. What "better mousetrap" are the masses planning? They don't have one. Until they realise that, they will always be poor. They can invade Sandton and steal everything, what happens when they've used the money? How will they get more? So no, Mr Malema, it is not up to ME to come to YOU with alternatives to nationalisation. It is up to YOU to figure out how to build a better mousetrap. They tried annexing the whites' wealth in Zim and Moz. Go into your nearest informal settlement and ask the thousands of Zimbos or Mozambicans there if it made them rich. What you are proposing is not sustainable. Cont'd below.

      john - 2011-06-26 11:14

      America didn't go to Britain after independence and say "OK, now YOU must tell US how WE can make money and get rich. Otherwise we'll demand compensation from you for oppression." Britain would have laughed at them. And, if they'd tried it, America would today be one of the poorest countries on the planet. There are just as many poor and poorly-educated people in China as there are in Africa. But China has prospects. They are generating sustainable wealth. They're not doing it by nationalising anything or annexing foreigners' wealth. Quite the contrary, China is inviting skilled foreigners into the country, not chasing them away with threats of nationalisation. They're not making wealth by going to the UN and demanding compensation for past injustices. They're doing it by building a better mousetrap - cheap products. Their quality may be horrible but they sure are cheap. So that is their Unique Selling Point - affordability. And they're exploiting it to the point where their economy is growing exponentially. Unless Africans figure out a way to offer a product with their own Unique Selling Point to world markets, the whole continent will belong to China shortly. Invading Sandton and stealing the whites' houses and cars isn't going to change that. The only product they're offering at the moment is disenchantment and threats of violence. There is no market for that, no customer is going to pay money for it. Cont'd below.

      john - 2011-06-26 11:28

      If my house and car and bank account and job are "nationalised", I will simply leave and get a new job, car, house and bank account in another country. My wealth is sustainable because I can make myself attractive to employers all over the world. So no, the onus is not on me to give my wealth to the poor. Because it's not sustainable. Once they've used what I've given them, who is going to give them more? The British didn't need to give their wealth to Americans, and Japanese didn't need to give their wealth to Chinese. These countries made their own wealth. They didn't take anything from their former oppressors except one thing - customers in world markets. If I am a wealthy white who gets money by selling 100k widgets every month to customers, you are not going to get rich by nationalising my house or car. You are only going to get rich when you figure out how to offer better widgets - and convince all my customers to buy their widgets from you instead. And no, "the law says that you must buy from me because I'm oppressed" is not a Unique Selling Point. Customers need to buy from you out of choice and their own free will, not out of pity or guilt. Because that is not sustainable either. People tend to run out of pity really quickly if you hold a gun (metaphorical or literal) to their heads.

      john - 2011-06-26 12:26

      To give a comparison that is more directly relevant to SA, let's take India. They were once colonised by Britain too. They were also oppressed. Today, their economy is growing rapidly. How did they achieve this? By trying to guilt-trip Britain into paying them compensation forever more? By insisting that all British companies must now be 51% Indian-owned? No. They did it by building better mousetraps and taking customers that used to buy from England. Just some examples: 1) Call centres. Most call centres in the UK now run from India. India offers better, cheaper, more responsive service. So they've taken business that used to belong to British companies. 2) Cars. Britain used to be one of the giants in auto manufacturing. Today, Indian manufacturers like Tata outsell British makes. Again, India has taken business that used to go to British companies. 3) Cricket. IPL is watched all over the world, English county cricket isn't. So all that advertising money and broadcasting rights income is going to India, not England. England might have invented/developed the game, but India has ended up making more money from it. 4) Britain and the US used to be the world's major movie producers. Today, India makes more movies than the US and UK combined. 5) Formula One. Time was, all F1 teams except Ferrari and (occasionally) Renault were British-owned. Now India has its own team, Force India which is owned by Vijay Mallya. It's a small step but, again, an important one. Cont'd below.

      john - 2011-06-26 12:35

      Most importantly, India has achieved these things without holding a gun to anybody's head. Nobody is forced to buy a Tata or else "you are a racist who felt nothing for the suffering of Indians under colonialism". Nobody is compelled to watch IPL because, if they don't, the angry Indian masses are going to come and nationalise their house. People buy Tatas because they offer value. People watch IPL because it's a fast-paced, colourful, vibrant, attractive, entertaining product. That is what makes these things sustainable. What are Malema's disenchanted masses offering that is sustainable or attractive to anybody? Nothing. All they're offering is glum faces and threats. Until that changes, they are not going to get anywhere.

      spacemonkey - 2011-06-26 13:03

      @john A point on historical accuracy -- this is what actually happened to British property owners after the USA won independence: 'Confiscation of Property has occurred in the United States during wartime, ever since the revolutionary war. As a means of financing hostilities against England, the Continental Congress declared in 1776 that the property of Loyalists was subject to seizure. By the end of 1781, every state had passed a confiscation act, and Loyalists had lost property worth millions of pounds. Article V of the Definitive Treaty of Peace (1783) provided that Congress would urge the states to compensate former owners whose property had been seized, but only South Carolina responded to this plea. With the United States itself refusing to provide compensation, the British Parliament ultimately indemnified a large number of Loyalists in an amount exceeding £3 million.'

      john - 2011-06-26 16:14

      @spacemonkey: fair enough, but that's not what made them rich. What made the US rich was developing the production line, developing the automobile as the world's premier form of transport, commercialising and developing air travel, developing motion pictures and music and television as the world's most lucrative entertainment forms, turning advertising and marketing into an artform, and about a thousand other industries where they played a pioneering role. Yes, they had a bit of gold and oil too. But their wealth continued to flourish after they'd exhausted these natural resources. People like Bill Gates, Donald Trump, Oprah Winfrey didn't get rich by insisting that the Texas oil barons or California gold rush tycoons hand over their wealth. They went out and made their own fortunes, they didn't have to annex somebody else's. America got rich by multiplying wealth. Africa wants to get rich by dividing it. It's never going to work. Additionally, the US aggressively pursued the world's top minds in many fields and urged them to immigrate to the US. Africa seems entirely disinterested in either attracting top minds or even retaining those with skills who are already here. They seem delighted that most of the country's top minds are heading for Australia. They are taking an exceptionally dumb and short-sighted approach to the future.

      spacemonkey - 2011-06-26 19:42

      @john I can write more on it if you want an explanation of my position (when I have the time), but I think your view of how the USA (or any of the developed nations) became wealthy is a bit sanitised and idealised. That's not to say that they haven't done many things right, that there aren't lessons to be learnt from them, but the 'pure hard work and ingenuity' thing is pretty much a myth. They have a long history of violence, oppression and exploitation. It's role in creating wealth can't be ignored. And, while Africa's certainly failed in many regards, there's merit to some claims -- calls for fair trade agreements, debt relief (we still have countries paying off debts incurred by colonial powers).

      Win14 - 2011-06-26 22:07

      Hey, what is this now? Out of the blue there I get hit by this monologue of John, and Spacemonkey trying to undermine it. You all got seriously away from the premise: M said, education is the way out of poverty. yes, okay, that's re-inventing the wheel, and we all know that this is just an aspect .. because: what does Branson, Gates, Tony Factor and so many others have to do with education? They simply import and use education. How vcome the US, India, China and others boxed themselves out of mediocrity and became world leaders? What have they got that Africa hasn't? It can only be pure bloody-mindedness, common sense, guts, DRIVE and ... what?.. PURPOSE! No-one in Africa has got any! Or has anyone ever said my country will be the greatest soon because we'll create maximum production value with our minerals and will make the world dependent on us? No, it's simply not part of the African locust mindset. But why not? After all, India, China and so many other non-African countries were even far more seriously suppressed, exploited and demeaned than Africa ever was - but like Phoenixes, they rose from their ashes and are world-leaders today .. whilst African countries are basket cases with SA sadly becoming the next one because of all those idiots ruling us here now. So again I ask: can't we come up with a joint PURPOSE to which everyone can and will contribute if only to show the rest of the screwed-up world that there is positive, non-begging life left in Africa? John, come on!

      spacemonkey - 2011-06-27 00:14

      'How vcome the US, India, China and others boxed themselves out of mediocrity and became world leaders?' Well, they all have nuclear weapons, for a start. I think I'm getting more and more cynical as I get older. 'The great nations have always acted like gangsters, and the small nations like prostitutes.' -- Stanley Kubrick

      Win14 - 2011-06-27 00:47

      Yes, it's true, all those nations which we call great have atom bombs. probably even Switzerland has some!? But also South Africa used to have them. But we gave them up. And in a way, that weakened us. Who are we now? Who is non-atombomb Africa? But if we still had them, suddenly we'd become a force to be reckoned with. Yes Spacemonkey, you've got a serious point there! Because now we are somehow toothless. No bite etc. Walkovers of note. Yes, I never thought about it like that. Well, we've still got Pelindaba, so let's become a powerful nation again! Unless you are feared, you are not powerful. Amazing insight. Just like God.

      TamaraSays - 2011-06-27 02:30

      Thank god we no longer have nukes! Would you really want them in the hands of our current 'leaders' or their lapdogs? Nuff said.

  • Kyle - 2011-06-25 22:20

    This guy would be such a cool president. It seems like he is both intelligent and has high morals.

      Donovan Jackson - 2011-06-26 03:40

      Well, yes, if you don't mind the fact that he is also corrupt, with him and his floozy getting plenty of state 'business'. And that he doesn't know how to respect the property of others - remember the state of his rented house.

      baasdingane - 2011-06-26 08:17

      Kyle. Firstly there is no such thing as a cool president. Bill Clinton came close (no pun intended) In south african politics the the intelligent ones prefer to be behind the scenes - pulling the strings. Its far more beneficial to them to be in that position. Ask tokyo and business man/gold magnate , patrice motsepe.

      baasdingane - 2011-06-26 08:37

      ........just to put everyones noses out of joint , motsepe one of the anc fat cats whos wealth is an estimated $3.3 billion.....or R 23000000000.00 while most of his brothers and sister live in shacks and resort to crime to feed themselves.

      Kyle - 2011-06-26 13:09

      Ok then the only cool president currently in the world is the Italian president.

  • Macho Mike - 2011-06-25 22:23

    Education is also the median to teach the future sheep followers, who vote time after time for the ANC, that there is another route for SA to follow before it's far too late. The ANC know this, which is why they allow standards to drop in the hope that the sheep become educated, but not to clever and street wise.

      OZNOB - 2011-06-25 22:31

      Lets hope they do not start burning the books

  • SAinOK - 2011-06-25 22:25

    Spot on.

  • Makutu - 2011-06-25 22:26

    Noooo! Zimbabweans are the most educated Africans but yet they are poverty stricken. The solution to poverty is education coupled with a good work ethic and a national drive to PRODUCE! Get the export market working and sell to the rest of the world the TECHNOLOGY they NEED!

      TamaraSays - 2011-06-25 22:40

      Education is the first step. If you are not educated, you don't understand rudimentary economics. If you don't understand the economy, you don't know where you fit in, or how to improve your own life. Education opens doors, and then once that has been achieved, you need to help people to walk through them, by offering them small business loans, further education and so on. Without that first step, however, you have a nation of unemployable people, whose best hope is to work in a low paying, menial job. The current education policies have failed the people, and it's time they were put right.

      Makutu - 2011-06-26 02:23

      Agreed Tamara.

      sabc10 - 2011-06-26 08:22

      Its far much more than education...its culture which asians generally have. Its far more then selling and marketing...its lead to greed in USA (wall street) and it becoming the richest,warfaring,pollutive,wasteful nation. In South Africa for instance the chasing of money has lead to the poor getting poorer.

      onetickie - 2011-06-26 10:09

      Don't tell us what we all know (including the uneducated). But how do you educate when the ANC government does not provide financially for teachers, books, schools etc.etc. So much the the 'zoooooo's' promises before the local elections beginning of the year. Nothing came from those promises and now he's spending his time out the country in Libya trying to give advice when he cannot get his own house/country in order!

      Goldenk9 - 2011-06-26 10:26

      You have missed the point there Makutu. Zimbabweans are so educated that they found it not worth it to splash the country with blood during the worst times under the dictator, Roberto (Who, by the way, had amassed himself with a few vicious dogs to scare the people away from him) , but chose to come to SA to take our jobs and our women. Never be fooled that most of the crime perpetrated in SA is done by foreigners, especially Zimbabweans. Its not true, and we all know it. Our jails are not filled with Zimbabweans, but by our very own uneducated brothers and sisters, who can can not stand by themselves, but look up to the government for basics everyday

  • Afro-centric - 2011-06-25 22:39

    Negative attitude is the biggest enemy of progress. Its so amazing how negative most your comments are. A little bit of positive thinking will not hurt anyone. Lets post constructive comments...

      Karoobloed - 2011-06-26 01:45


      Donovan Jackson - 2011-06-26 03:41

      Oh yes brilliant, positive thinking will solve the problems. Why didn't I think of that before? (The band may have played on, but the ship still sank.)

      Warslat - 2011-06-26 06:26

      @ Donovan...Afrocentric didn't say a positive attitude would solve anything, just that it wouldn't hurt. Frankly I agree with him. Perhaps with a little more education you'll be able to read, understand what was said and reply intelligently. What Motlanthe said is 100% right, unfortunately education requires more effort than relying on AA, BEE or stealing so it's unlikely to happen. I could be wrong and I really hope I am.

      Marcell - 2011-06-26 07:35

      I would rather employ a uneducated person that is hard working, that don't break the stuff, that doesn't demand than an educated person. Educated people Of late have a demanding attitude. Education is the rope. How you use it to get out of the hole is up to you alone.

      onetickie - 2011-06-26 10:16

      @Afro-centric: In 1994 I believe almost EVERY person of every colour/ethnic group was extremely positive and hopeful for SA's future (maybe with exception of run of the mill criminals). And what has been the result of all that positive energy the country had for many years? Nothing apart from broken promises and watching SA decline into a banana republic with those in power lining their pockets for self-enrichment/gain. And then you say we must - after 17 years of shambolic government, stay positive? You can choose to be an ostrich or a realist. I choose the latter based on FACTS.

      Virginia - 2011-07-27 11:03

      Well said afro centric, I personally think that the leaders of to day do understand that because of whats gone wrong in this country in the past 20 years, one cannot hang around a fire outside a hut and think that this is going to make you President one day. But like I said in another comment, the government need to give these people quality of life like you and their voters have given them and their families. Todays children dont want to live in a shack, when their friends live in nice comfortable homes

      Virginia - 2011-07-27 11:06

      Marcell this is exactly what the problem is in our society to day especially on our farms, cheap labour is not so cheap in the end, becasue they come and rob and kill you because you do not pay a living wage. uneducated does not mean you have to steal from your employee, he is harworking you pay him accordingly.

  • tootingdel - 2011-06-25 22:43

    But why have the ANC top brass only just woken up to this? SO many have been saying that education has to be a top priority for decades. It's not good just saying that - they are in power, they have been for many years, and they must now deliver. The consequences of not providing a good education for all will be continuing poverty, crime, and eventually a failed state without the right skills to operate.

      TamaraSays - 2011-06-25 23:02

      They would rather spend billions on the World Cup. Which was great. While it was happening. Now we have stadiums that are standing, doing nothing. How many GOOD educations does the R 30 billion or more guarantee? How many small business loans would it make? Instead, they spend on grandiose events, designed to 'market' South Africa. It's funny, because, for all their marketing, the world has never been more wary about SA than since Malema started mouthing off.

      Joker - 2011-06-26 02:50

      @tamara. The thing is that there's enough money to go around for a good education system. South Africa were recently surveyed amongst other developing nations and we are already spending more money on education than Brazil, China and India, yet our standards in our educational system are much lower than those countries. Fewer of our learners ever finishes Matric, and even fewer ever makes it to Tertiary education level. The answer is not to throw just more money at the problem, but to fix the education system. We have teachers not showing up for class to attend union meetings, teachers toy toing for more pay every year. In Natal alone there are over 4000 teachers not even qualified to teach! We can't even ensure that all schools have books. And then we masses of children living under very poor circumstances in dysfunctional homes. I am not even sure how deep all the problems goes, or what the solutions are, but to get education up to par with other developing nations are going to be time consuming and extremely difficult. One of the main reasons why we lose direct foreign investment to other developing countries are due to a lack of educated and skilled workers in this country.

      TamaraSays - 2011-06-27 02:33

      Still, Joker, the billions poured into the World Cup, and the Gautrain, or even the R 100 million youth congress (read drunken brawl) could have bought a lot of housing, improved a lot of lives, and improved education. Instead, our government chooses to glorify themselves, and the irony is, the whole world knows that's exactly what they are doing.

      Orca - 2011-06-27 08:32

      The very poor are still waiting .. and getting impatient... and growing in numbers.

  • jan.jordaan1 - 2011-06-25 22:45

    duh.....mugabe, verwoerd, mswati...etc all very well educated.....give me values rather....

  • Aj - 2011-06-25 22:50

    An educated man will always find work... But to be "given" something achieves nothing.. The gov can give a million opportunities... at the end of the day.. if you don't work hard at it... you will never achieve ;)

  • lilo69 - 2011-06-25 22:54

    Jeeeezzzz man, he should be president. What a joke, 17yrs....? Watching paint dry is more exciting.....

      Aj - 2011-06-25 23:03

      haha goeies... listening at the grass growing has bigger crowds.

  • DoublySalmon - 2011-06-25 23:09

    Buying votes with tax payer money. Sigh. Anyway education yes, IQ also. Kids need a stimulating environment, nutrition and all that including education otherwise they average out at 72 points only on Western tests, in the modern world we live in 100+ points is required.

  • al_bundy - 2011-06-25 23:17

    To say and to do is two different things. Why are school kids walking around in shopping malls during school hours?. Do teachers not notice absenteeism or do they just not care?. Why do we wonder about the pathetic pass rate?. An error occurred. Please try again later.

  • francoisvdmerwe - 2011-06-25 23:41

    respect that!!!

  • francoisvdmerwe - 2011-06-25 23:42

    Kgalema Motlanthe for the next president!

      sabc10 - 2011-06-26 08:28

      he may become the next president but the youth will remove him. On the ground level then are thousands of Malemas just ready to remove him or even kill him off. Experts predict SA will have a bloody revolution soon.

  • Janine - 2011-06-26 00:19

    I have been saying this for years. Without education your chances of getting a decent paying job are about nil.

  • jayt612 - 2011-06-26 00:25

    Does anyone have a bridge to sell?

  • Mike or Mpho - 2011-06-26 01:02

    blah blah blah,while his comrades steal from the public coffers...enough said

  • The Ted Vos - 2011-06-26 01:17

    Captain Obvious Motlanthe has just made about the most intelligent comment of all time on behalf of the thieving imbeciles at Loot Freely House. Good for you.

  • Henni Apple - 2011-06-26 01:23

    brilliant and it takes time, the sooner this is started the better.

  • banatcool - 2011-06-26 03:31

  • zaatheist - 2011-06-26 04:44

    And it has taken the ANC 15 years to work that out?

  • Clive - 2011-06-26 04:52

    Now for once someone has got something right, now lets do something about it. we can become the most powerful african country. Kids are easy to teach, its the adults from an older generation that are the most stubborn and hardheaded, that goes for white, black, indian and coloureds. change of mindset starts with you, you have to try, otherwise we will all move forward looking back at you as an outcast.

  • 1502211306 - 2011-06-26 06:48

    the blacks recently burnt down a library to protest some small issue. now is that an excuse not to want to study?? lol

      John Wilderness - 2011-06-27 01:24

      How many black people in south Africa burn down libraries ? You people are not about lasting solutions but all about kicking "darkie" in the teeth.

      TamaraSays - 2011-06-27 02:36

      The point is, John, burning libraries and schools does not help to solve the problem - it makes it worse. Why aren't these people going after the people they are really angry with - the government who let them down - instead of burning down resources that could uplift them? Even nationalisation and land grabs, without education, will amount to nothing. The people will have the means, but not the skill or insight, and they will still starve.

  • Carl - 2011-06-26 07:06

    Even though I despise the ANC, I hope this man is the next president of RSA on a full time basis. I am a black man and I think the only way to even out the imbalance's of the past and alleviate poverty is to put education (long term solution) in front of AA (short term solution). P.s Where are the ANC trolls on good news items?

  • BugsyJamesy - 2011-06-26 07:35

    No educated man will vote 4 the ANC

  • B101 - 2011-06-26 08:02

    Very encouraging to hear this, encouraging to see that someone in our government has vision and a solution that will work based on what we are going to do about it i.e. make sure our children go to school and stay in school!

  • horsehair - 2011-06-26 08:06

    Thanks Einstein. Did one of your children tell you that after receiving an education in a double story building?

  • BOFFINBOB - 2011-06-26 08:07

    Education certainly. Less breeding would really go along way to assisting with the poverty problem. One should'nt have to be that educated to realise that !

  • Dries - 2011-06-26 08:14

    Are you serious?! ".....the most effective way of eradicating poverty is by encouraging young people to go to school and learn skills." And where the hell will they find jobs with those so-called "skills", can you tell us that? AND the school paper-certified "skills" are not skills, that is something you learn by dedicated hands-on experience. IF their are jobs. I asked the son of an employee what is he going to do after school. "I want to be a 'manager' he says. Good luck.

      liesl - 2011-06-27 12:29

      Skills ... now there's a true word. I wish our school system taught kids more skills and less twaddle. Sciences and maths should be non-negotiable, and practical hands on skills that can be used productively in the job market as soon as possible, especially for those children who cannot afford or do not have the marks to go to university. Tradesmen and technical people are what we need most - people who know how things work and how to keep them working. Everyone is always going on about SA's lack of technical people and technical expertise ... but I never hear of any concrete things to make this possible.

  • sabc10 - 2011-06-26 08:15

    Tata,its too late. Liberation before education is faringrained in the genes. Besides you have hundreds of other ingrained issues that would take at least 200 years to make positive changes. Also if you look around you our leaders are telling the rest to eat cake or drink bottled water.

  • Mars - 2011-06-26 08:29

    Some one with some sense, good on you Mr Motlanthe !

  • BOFFINBOB - 2011-06-26 08:32

    It's a " Catch 22 " situation for the ANC is'nt it ? The more the people are educated, the less likely they will vote ANC !

  • Pie Lemon - 2011-06-26 08:33

    Why learn when you can buy a degree at your local taxi rank? Much easier doing it the african way.

  • Kelvyn - 2011-06-26 09:09

    If this useless government from inception had adopted a simple rule, "free education for all", including tertiary education, there would be less money spent, no need to build free houses , no wallet fattening as a result, everybody would be in a position to make informed decisions, dialogue would happen instead of uprising, no loud mouthed ignorant political figures would be entertained and jobs would be created, work force would not get brainwashed, tolerance would be on a higher level, and we would all trust the future and international investment would be double of what it is today. Sadly this could never happen as an educated nation would see the flaws, government would have less control, and the grasp of of the greedy would be weakened. Sadly education is never going to happen on a massive scale here, not as a government initiative any way.

      John Wilderness - 2011-06-27 01:29

      Kelvyn I do not completely agree with your statement but it is one of the more objective and realistic on this forum. Thanks.

  • Juggernaut - 2011-06-26 09:42

    Nope. Civilization before education. Mugabe well educated..........say no more.

  • Monkeywranch - 2011-06-26 09:44

    Hopefully he can act soon, very inspirational guy. I hope South Africans can follow his pursuit of happiness.

      saliem - 2011-06-26 10:14

      I would say that inspirational would be if he had the moral courage to tackle the problem head on. That would take a paradigm shift in thinking and not simply treating the symptoms (handing out food parcels and houses does nothing to solve the problem). The insistence of using cadre deployments and demographic targets to drive education does more harm than good. What government fails to realise is that it cannot create jobs... it's mandate is to create the conditions that will support job creation!

  • Pete - 2011-06-26 10:27

    Education and economic growth, sir, is the key. That is why someone should shut Malema's mouth before he destroys all that has been worked for over the last 17 years...

  • Mr B - 2011-06-26 11:11

    Not all uneducated people are poor just as not all educated people are rich. People need to think differently. Tony Factor was not highly educated. I can name numerous other people too. This country is becoming too over regulated like the rest of the world, and look how there economies are starting to fail too. The average man on the street cant just make items and sell them any more. Everything has to be SABS approved and yet it does not mean that its the best thing since sliced bread. A typical eg is an electrical DB board or a light fitting. Yet these DB boards that are approved never contain enough earth terminals or neutral terminals to even satisfy the South African National Standards. Yet you the customer have to pay for the excessive admin to keep these regulatory requirements in place. We need a more open economy. Just think how much more job creation there would be if anyone could make these boards and you had an electrical inspector who would check the installation and quality of materials and workmanship as in the old days.

  • al_bundy - 2011-06-26 11:11

    Dep. Prez Motlanthe showing some light in a very bleak political landscape.

  • Mud-Man - 2011-06-26 11:22

    Its true... Education is critical... But let’s empower our teachers. Pay them a living wage. Discipline our learners. (Maybe even bring back Corporal Punishment - properly monitored etc etc) Put the right people in charge of the system, take advice from industry on what skills are needed. Bring in TAX incentives for education: Like School Fees are TAX DEDUCATABLE And that is where you START. In 15 years time we will begin to see the change. Sorry for those poor guys who have come out of the past 15 years of crumbling educational systems. I cannot imagine the hardships they will face in this life - especially after what opportunity they missed out on whilst our beloved Politian’s pawned them for political expedience. An education should not be the currency levied at the poles. God Bless Africa Guard her children Guide her rules And bring her Peace

  • Flyswat - 2011-06-26 11:34

    Can someone make this man president, please?

  • jjhvan - 2011-06-26 12:57

    The first thing to teach young people is that not everyone can have an office job or be president of companies. We need people to do the actual work.

  • Mark - 2011-06-26 13:10

    Not our education system. thats why we have BEE, AA and corrupt tender processes. So we dont really need and education. Zuma is a good example. Malema too

  • unknwnartist - 2011-06-26 13:56

    Education yes, thats step one. Now how do we change those pockets of society and make them eager to learn? It appears more people prefer to gamble on a possibility of a future hand outs than finding their own personal skill...

      John Wilderness - 2011-06-27 01:26

      Thumbs up for the first sentence of your posting but then your second sentence disapoints.

  • PNutz - 2011-06-26 14:10

    Finally some good news!

  • maseratifitt - 2011-06-26 17:42

    "Education the way out of poverty - Motlanthe" Now who would have thought of THAT?

  • Frans Smith - 2011-06-26 19:05

    i would start with "EDUCATED HONEST LEADERSHIP", who can deliver education, justice, law and order, jobs, infrastructure, health care etc. currently sa has "UNEDUCATED CORRUPT CRIMINAL LEADERSHIP" that promises the world, hand out a few cheap meals and t-shirts whilst lining their own pockets and the pockets of friends and relatives. The sad news is that will continue still for a very long time unless you are a dreamer and not a realist.

  • Mike-O - 2011-06-27 07:44

    100% true, but unfortunately the culture of learning and working to achieve was never encouraged, instead too many people now believe that redistribution of land & nationalisation is going to see them through.

  • ColinG - 2011-06-27 09:37

    Agreed Mr Dep Pres