Expert in Jub Jub case 'not credible'

2011-10-11 14:24

Johannesburg - Accident reconstruction expert Renier Balt erred in his report, the Protea Magistrate's Court heard on Tuesday in the trial of Molemo Jub Jub Maarohanye and Themba Tshabalala.

Maarohanye and Tshabalala face charges of murder, attempted murder and driving under the influence of drugs and alcohol.

They were allegedly drag-racing when one of their Mini Coopers ploughed into a group of people in Protea North, Soweto, on March 8, 2010, killing four schoolchildren and injuring two.

Defence lawyer Ike Motloung said Balt had concluded that the two vehicles did not collide with each other without verifying this with witnesses.


"You got many things wrong," Motloung said, adding that his client Maarohanye would testify that the two cars did collide.

"My opinions are formulated based on physical evidence," Balt told the court.

Motloung submitted that Balt changed his view about the Mini Cooper that hit the children after realising he could not account for two of the six boys.

Balt had told the court that the blue Mini Cooper was the one that struck the group after overturning. He later retracted his statement, saying he had made a mistake in concluding that the blue car struck the children.

Earlier, Motloung told the court that Balt was a "half expert".

Balt was unable to say how many accidents he had reconstructed, he said.

"There is a problem with the expertise. You wish to be an expert."


Balt told Motloung that his qualifications were internationally recognised. He told the court that he had a general contract with Road Traffic Management Corporation to investigate high profile accidents.

"I do not have a contract signed every time I am assigned a case," Balt said.

He told the court he had done more than 700 cases starting from the time he was employed by the Ekurhuleni metro as an accident reconstruction expert.

"There is a problem here, where does the 331 come from?" Motloung asked.

Balt earlier said he could not determine the total number of cases he had done, but that he had done 331 cases since he left the Ekurhuleni metro.

He said the Maarohanye accident was his 196th case.

Motloung wanted to know why a Johannesburg metro police officer had accompanied Balt to the scene of the accident.

Balt said the metro police officer was there to point the final positions of the two cars and to give him photographs of the accident taken the day before.

The trial continues.

  • Pixie1984 - 2011-10-11 14:29

    Erm, who is on trial here? Jub Jub or the accident reconstruction expert? Stupid lawyer. Either way, the driver of the mini hit, killed and hurt those kids, someone needs to get punished!

      biskit - 2011-10-11 14:34

      Quickly too

      Zulu Whyte - 2011-10-11 14:54

      What about bogus experts paid with tax payers' money? Isn't it called cross-eaxmination in your legal language? The logic says if there are clear flaws in the analysis of an 'expert' then questions about their credibility must be examined. How many of these 'experts' are out there defrauding the tax payers?

      BadSpike - 2011-10-11 14:56

      Agreed. Nobody denies that these 2 idiots drove the vehicles.

      whysoserious - 2011-10-11 15:18

      @overprivleged...... what on earth are you on about?

      GuyverXT9 - 2011-10-11 15:51

      @whysoserious: this troll has been on various forums, including the mweb gaming forums, spouting his racist filth. he's got such a inferiority complex that he can't even stand to look at himself in a mirror, and it is always the white man's fault. @Overprivileged, how can it be a white person's fault that you have such a little dick?? Little punk bitch.

      whysoserious - 2011-10-11 15:56

      I just dont know how the hell he / she got to that comment? Does it have anything to do with the article? What a tool!

  • 2bornot2b - 2011-10-11 14:33

    Typical...always try to swift the focus from the REAL story!

      Matt :-) - 2011-10-11 14:37

      At least we can comment on this one... ET comments either closed or removed

      GypseyAnn - 2011-10-11 14:54

      @ Matt - quite interesting that - do you think its because it is Nasionale Pers?

      whysoserious - 2011-10-11 15:20

      ET comments closed.... getting abit rough I think..

  • stofsuier - 2011-10-11 14:34

    It does not matter whether he erred or not JUB JUB still killed four children and critically injured two more.He should be in jail already so stop wasting tax payers money !!!!!!

      GypseyAnn - 2011-10-11 14:49

      Hear, hear!!!!

      D &T - 2011-10-11 14:55

      Whats happening to our courts is really weird lately. Notice the shift from what the case is about. Here is what one can conclude from what the accused representatives are telling us. ET's case---->child labour, poor working conditions killed ET. Jub-Jub's case---->The expert killed the kids.

  • Toetsen - 2011-10-11 14:40

    What this lawyer is doing amounts to what is called "disservice" to his client.To him (lawyer) its about the publicity he is getting for representing his celebrity client.He does'nt care whether he will be convicted or not.Jub Jub is on trial here not the witnesses.Stupid lawyer!!!

      PietPompies - 2011-10-11 15:44

      Where did you study law to make such comments?If you are a lawyer yourself,then you are a dumb one.

      alansmart223 - 2011-10-12 17:30

      PietPompies.. I agree with you (sort of) but there is a lot of truth in what Toetsen says. Most lawyers don't care what the outcome is, their main target is the defendants fee. Win or lose they still make their bucks. Ask any lawyer to take a case on the base of "no success, no pay". and they shy away. There are vary few lawyers with any sense of fairness

  • Grant Fowler - 2011-10-11 14:44

    Get stopped in a roadblock, over limit, BIG DEAL, get locked up. On DRUGS and ALCOHOL, kill innoncent kids, NO PROBLEM, welcome to dark Africa LAW.

      GypseyAnn - 2011-10-11 14:51

      It's quite amazing how no one seems to take responsibility for their actions nowadays. Actually make that "shameful" :)

  • Andries - 2011-10-11 14:45

    The two Mini's must have been of the very modern kind like Knightrider's car that could drive themselves. The two accused, we will probably later hear from Motloung, was never even in the cars! And the fact that the cars raced each other, overturned and killed six children was force majeur or "an act of God". In South Africa, after all, nothing is impossible.

      MojoBa - 2011-10-11 14:51

      No, no - it's because of Apartheid

      Side_Winder - 2011-10-11 16:00

      MojoBa.... really? This is your contribution. What an utterly stupid unneccesary comment. At least you not alone out there in the world of narrow-mindedness. I see a couple of likes to your silly comment. My last post was removed because I referred to you as a species of primate. So let me rather call you a buffoon....

      Victoria - 2011-10-12 09:16

      @Side-Winder. I think MojoBa is being sarcastic......

  • IC1 - 2011-10-11 14:50

    So this means they are innocent then does it

  • SuperSipho01 - 2011-10-11 14:52

    can these guys just go to jail already.

      PietPompies - 2011-10-11 15:45

      No.Until they are found guilty.

  • MojoBa - 2011-10-11 14:52

    I soooooo detest how the lawyers nitpick at trivial sh@t when they are just trying to get the attention away from what their useless clients did. Who cares which car hit them and who was going fastest. They're both equally guilty. Lock the bastards up and throw the key away.

      PietPompies - 2011-10-11 15:47

      This is what the law is all about.Think with your head and not with your heart.Take emotions out of the law.

  • Buic Unix - 2011-10-11 14:54

    That is why you call a lawyer and you pay lawyers money to defend you. He wouldnt be a good lawyer if he is not to derail the case form the main facts that determine the closure of this case. In the end the Idiot who murdered the kids will probably be out on some funny something xxx or whatever xxx because when you have money in this world you wont suffer...

  • Sue Laurynhill - 2011-10-11 14:54

    This guy should be in jail already, this so called lawyer is supporting crime

  • Bokke - 2011-10-11 15:00

    I am still saying this.. common sense is not always common to everyone!! Other things seem to be very easy in the public eye and I just don't know how the judges, prosecutors, lawyers, etc which planet they come from!! In this case, two cars were racing, doing more than stipulated speed limit, they hit killed children and hurt other, owners of those cars are jub Jub and his friend! What more evidence you need here???!! Lock them in jail!!! Same thing is happening in the case where a taxi last week killed 15 people...... driver is pleading not guilty!!! What's that!!!? really what's wrong with the law??? Cases like these shouldn't take this long (more than a year)!! Driver of the vehicle should not even get a chance to plead "not guilty"!!!

      gcr - 2011-10-11 15:38

      You will probably find that the 2 accused's lawyers are cross examining in this manner to shift the charge from murder to manslaugther and also it may have a significant bearing on the sentence that is handed down

      PietPompies - 2011-10-11 15:49

      Go and study law and then come back and post clever comments.

  • GT - 2011-10-11 15:03

    When the defense cannot argue the facts they attack the witness. Stand operating procedure.

  • dithala - 2011-10-11 15:03

    Being a lawyer means, keeping cash flowing in.Do you think that JAPIE-JAPIE's imprisonment will make his lawyer richer?

  • wateva - 2011-10-11 15:12

    Ehrr, excuse me, neither is JubJub credible!!! Go to jail already losers . . .

  • Antwahn - 2011-10-11 15:19

    Oh the total CRAP defence lawyers can talk! This Adv. Motloung-Moron says that the expert erred in failing to check his finding (that the cars did not collide) with witnesses! With tears in my eyes: Balt's job is to examine the physical evidence, Advocate Moron! And if he finds that there's no evidence of the cars touching -that's it, as far as Balt is concerned. Is Adv. Moron hoping that the judge is as much the product of AA as he is himself?

      PietPompies - 2011-10-11 15:53

      Ike Motloung is not an AA lawyer.Just because he is black does not render him a moron.You know very well from the definition of moron that the latter has a lot of limitations.

      Antwahn - 2011-10-11 16:29

      showed that he's talking total crap. (Agree / disagree.) If he's not is a moron, he's a full-of-shyte liar. Is that better? And at any rate, he's talking to the court as if the JUDGE is a moron / retard / AA appointee. (BTW, the majority of blacks in SA are technically retards -but right, not technically morons. Thanks for highlighting the difference.)

  • whysoserious - 2011-10-11 15:23

    Lock them up and throw the key away! Eish, bloddy agents!

  • Side_Winder - 2011-10-11 15:23

    When will people, especially the 'famous' or spawn of the 'famous', start taking responsibility for their actions. They were racing - fact. They killed kids - fact. Just because you can afford the best lawyers (well not really in this case by the sound of this buffoon) who could possibly get you of on either a technicality or a slip up on the prosecution, does not make you innocent!! Life is cheap in S.A..... (if you're rich its even cheaper)

  • Jason - 2011-10-11 15:32

    Who gives a flying f*ck about the experts flaws,Four children are dead, and there are witnesses, was else do they want they even have Mobile footage - stop f*cking around waisting our money!!

      whysoserious - 2011-10-11 15:38

      Hear hear Mezaros!

  • Tokkel Loshi - 2011-10-11 15:41

    Remove this expert, metro , Lawyers and whoever ells that is arguing with each other about this case , you still have 6 dead kids , two smashed mini coopers and two smashed wannabe rappers !!

  • Enigma - 2011-10-11 15:43

    What is this case still doing in court? The facts are so obvious any Grade 1 learner can tell you what happened. Guilty. Finish en klaar. The judge should tell this moneymaking lawyer to get off somewhere and stop insulting everyone's intelligence. Mind you, I wonder if Jub Jub can pay him.

  • Michelle - 2011-10-11 15:45

    And the lawyer was in the car when the accident happened?? Arse!! He doesn't really care that children died!!

  • Banana_Republic - 2011-10-11 15:47

    @ Overprivelaged: What are you saying? Is Jub Jub (the drugged out black kid racing a Mini) a victim of oppression and he should therefore be treated leniently? What about the less fortunate and more subordinate school kids who didnt have a car and were walking from school? Are they now also victims of racial oppression because another victim of racial oppression ran them over while driving a British made car down a road surfaced with a material discovered by a Scotsman. Get a life man!!!

      GuyverXT9 - 2011-10-11 15:57

      @Banana_Republic: this fool, with his little winky, is trolling because he hasn't got a job, he's not interested in getting an education, and he's still living with his parents. Despite it all being his own fault, he still insists it is apartheid's fault, yet, the moment he's confronted he runs away and hides under his mom's bed. I would know, I was busy banging her while he ran into the room. Ignore him, he's a nobody.

      Victoria - 2011-10-12 09:20

      EEEUW GuyverXT9. You should be a bit more particular! :)

  • BroDoItRight - 2011-10-11 15:55

    These guys and their vehicles caused the carnage. Why not simply sue them for the laws they broke i.e. 'DUI', Reckless driving (speeding/racing on a public road), Culpable Homicide and get this done and over with? Letting gold-diggers like their lawyers prolong the process to keep these thugs out of jail is but a waste of tax-payers money. They are definately burking-up the wrong tree. Prison and more prison for these air-heads. Innocent lifes were lost and they can't be returned. Come-on SA Justice system. Patch them holes so we can be a better nation!

  • 4660 - 2011-10-12 08:42

    Families lost their loved ones. We lost as a nation from the irresponsible behavior of some celebrities. Why waste our time with crappy arguments. People should be punished for their actions and for inflicting pain on others. Do u think he didnt know that he was acting stupidly racing in the streets of Soweto?

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