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Eyes on Zuma as Cele sacking reports emerge

2012-06-06 22:38

Cape Town - The presidency on Tuesday would neither confirm or deny reports that suspended police commissioner Bheki Cele had been sacked.

City Press reported that it had learned from three independent well-placed sources that President Jacob Zuma decided to fire Cele after considering the report produced by a board of inquiry which was set up to assess Cele's fitness for office.

The board recommended in its report to Zuma that Cele should be fired.

News of the sacking was widely reported by various other news sources, but the presidency was tight-lipped.

Earlier, Zuma's spokesperson Mac Maharaj said that the president would make his decision about Cele public when he was "ready" to do so.

"When the president is ready he will make his decision public and we will release a statement," Maharaj said.

Cele told Eye Witness News that he had heard nothing about his reported dismissal, nor any feedback from Zuma regarding the outcome of the inquiry.

The police boss was suspended in October last year amid massive controversy over two lucrative lease deals, one for police headquarters in Pretoria and another in Durban.

The leases, worth more than R1.6bn, were awarded by the department of public works to property mogul Roux Shabangu in 2010.

The board of inquiry found that Cele lacked the capacity to execute his official duties efficiently and was not fit to hold office.

Comments
  • John - 2012-06-06 22:57

    Who's gonna shoot the k*k out of criminals now?

      Mlondolozi - 2012-06-06 23:21

      i remember when he started out as a police commisioner, he always talked tough. encauraging his men shoot the piss out of criminals. but he turned out to be one too

      Jack - 2012-06-07 08:19

      the man's innocent. and no I'm not some ANC fanatic. he was cornered framed and now nailed because of the popularity he was gaining with the people in the townships.

      tmnqayi - 2012-06-07 16:30

      Good people he has been fired because of negligence not crime gents. He did not commit any but he was negligent when signing some of the docs without reading them.

      Jack - 2012-06-07 16:57

      Just take a look into the leasing of government buildings and you'll dee that the department of works find and lease the buildings. The department heads just sign off the contracts- in this case the SAPS. The funds do not come from the SAPS budget they come from Dept of Pub.Works. Cele did not have power over that, why do you think the minister ofPub. Works was fired at the same time. His only mistake was to say something against Zuma.

  • Mlondolozi - 2012-06-06 22:58

    at last he(you know who) makes a decision. can we just move on now, plz?

      nettie.potgieter.5 - 2012-06-06 23:14

      I don't know who, nobody is talking! If Ndluli was still there I bet he would have know what was going on and could have given us the information!

      danny.levin.351 - 2012-06-07 06:52

      Mlondozi, we are almost ready to move on. as soon as he is prosecuted for corruption and locked up, then we can move on to the next criminal...

  • Glyn - 2012-06-06 23:01

    Squeak up, Mr.President! Are you a man or a mouse?

  • dave.kofang - 2012-06-06 23:14

    Its no suprise it took too long to present a report.We have a spineless president.

  • Freddy - 2012-06-06 23:14

    Let the law take it's journey and see what happoens. Unfortunately the costs are very high. Tell me if the tax payers cannot pay anymore, what then?

  • william.letsong.5 - 2012-06-07 00:45

    What about Zuma?

  • anthony.hawke.7 - 2012-06-07 01:17

    Eyes on Zuma again. This time not at The Goodman Gallery...

  • anthony.hawke.7 - 2012-06-07 01:18

    Eyes on Zuma again. This time not at The Goodman Gallery...

  • Lee Lilith Van Coller - 2012-06-07 02:34

    how does one fire a dear friend? can't be fun, especially when it this public. but aside from his criminal side, i actually liked celi! he actually took action, told officers to use their weapons. we are getting too soft on criminals, and in a way he brought in some harshness by this. but realllyyy dissappointed that he turned out as a crook.

      tmnqayi - 2012-06-07 16:35

      he is the only one who did and still can put control over the taxi owners in this country. The wrong thing was giving him this positions the leadership should have kept him in KZN. He was really doing a good job.

  • Rockafella - 2012-06-07 03:24

    Theres just too many of these corrupt police official , i even had 2 spend a good second thinking who Bheki Cela is and what he looks like

      ratsaka.eugene - 2012-06-07 09:46

      Lol, le'me help ya identify him, of all those accused top cops, Mr Cele is the uglier one. Now it should be easy now to identify him.

  • Rockafella - 2012-06-07 03:24

    Theres just too many of these corrupt police official , i even had 2 spend a good second thinking who Bheki Cela is and what he looks like

  • dennis.vermaak.5 - 2012-06-07 04:53

    And all of a sudden it's "wartime" Beegdaddy vs Pimpdaddy !!

  • howard.komati - 2012-06-07 05:01

    CELE KNW HOW TO RUN HIS OFFICE THE MISTAKE HE MADE WAS OFFERING TENDERS TO HIS FRIEND. HE WAS A DEDICATED COP WHO MINIMISE THE BOMBING OF ATM'S IN GAUTENG. HIS LEADERSHIP WAS RADICAL BT VERY EFFECTIVE AND EFFICIENT CRIMINALS KNEW THT WHEN THE COW BOY MAN AND HIS TROOPS COME THEN BOYS WILL BE SEPARATED FRM MEN. HIS EXPULSION DOESNT COME AS A SUPRISE OUR MINISTERS ARE CORRUPT INCLUDING MAC MAHARAC. OUR GOVERNMENT IS DETERIORATING BY THE DAY.

      vernon.samuel.7 - 2012-06-07 06:01

      What you call a little mistake is actually stealing of our taxes to the tune of hundreds of millions. If we keep turning a blind eye to these little indiscretions, then pretty soon there will be no money in the public purse to pay the police. Then there will be no poilce force and criminals will be rampant again. Do not be short-sighted. By the way, are we forgeting all the innocent people (including babies) that the police shot, killed, intimidated, assaulted and terrorised under Cele's watch??? The man is poison and deserves jail time!

  • nofikathiniskeyi.eunice - 2012-06-07 05:09

    kuzawuba nzima kutata lo okhokheleyo ukumngxotha uCele ngaba bakhuhlana imiqolo zizihlobo zorhwaphilizo bonke

  • Christopher - 2012-06-07 05:41

    This is a matter of Emergencey 2 fire Cele'do it now Mr Dictator cos this man is the same s u,u r corrupt n not feet 2 hold die office'N by so doing'fire urself s well'

      Nkululeko - 2012-06-07 07:07

      @Christopher, You sound like an empty vessel, firstly , if you say Cele has been fired for corruption, then you don't know what you are talking about, just go back and see exactly why a man was fired. The commission of enquiry could not find any corruption against Cele, but he lacked the capacity to execute his official duties efficiently, that is carelessnee, (remeber signing a lease agreement on top of a bonet of a car) that is why he is not fit for the office. Secondly, you keep on refering to Zuma as "Dictator" and "Corrupt", if he was corrupt as you say, why would he appoint a commission of enquiry to work on "arms deal" saga? I see you Christopher as a Dictator because here in South Africa, everyone is innocent until proven guilty by the court of law, NOT by Christopher. I always read your comments about My President, all of them are full of hate and you really don't want to see that man in that position, maybe, did he take your girlfriend or what?

      adrien.mcguire - 2012-06-07 08:55

      @Nkululeko I am afraid to say this but you are very 'one eyed' in your comment. Whilst I respect your right to your opinion , I think you need to look at some the facts. The president is only technically innocent, due to the fact that he has not been found guilty. His partner in corruption has been found guilty and it is a known fact that he was found guilty of a corrupt and improper relationship with Zuma. So is he innocent? Yes but only technically! Zuma spent inordinate amount of effort to keep the incriminating diary from reaching South Africa. Are those the actions of an innocent man. I don't think so. He has attempted to manipulate the justice system to load it with friendly judges, in order to ensure that he is not prosected. He has disbanded the Scorpions because he couldnt manage the heat of their investigations. He has called for an inquiry into the arms deal, but guess what, he has put restrictions on the investigation. So Nkululeko, is our president innocent, yes technically, but one doesn't have to be too bright to see that he is not Just saying!

      Nkululeko - 2012-06-07 12:22

      @Adrien.mcguire, I hear you, and it is valid, but if you talk about Shaik's case, I think you need to go back to the by Hillary Squires judgement, which is still available, The Hounorable Judge Himself made it clear that He NEVER said there is a "generally corrupt" friendship between Zuma and Shaik, please Adrien, check that judgement again. Judge Squired Himself, he even called the press, and asked them to show him on records where he spoke about "generally corrupt" relationship, but none was able to do so. Then the Judge Himself commented about the over-exagerating media in S.A. When talking about disbanding of Scopions, I realy don't believe that was only Zuma's idea to do so, more especially, he was NOT even a state president by then, but that decision was taken in 2007 by the conference in Polokwane, there was a strong believe that someone with even more power is manupulating the Scopion for his own benefit. Remember, Mokotedi Mpshe, was an acting head of Scopions that time, then, after investigation, as a Head of Scopions, Mr Mpshe confirmed that trully, ther was a manipulation of Scopions by "someone" in power. Then he decided not to continue with prosecution. But, the DA has been granted a permission to go ahead with that matter, I strongly believe, we will find even more truth on this matter, but for now I don't think it is fair just to say a man is corrupt, while we don't have any proof. When the DA comes ryte, and more truth comes out, we gonna be singing one song.

      Rob - 2012-06-07 12:30

      Legally innocent is explicitly different from not being corrupt or behaving criminally. Of course we have 'innocent until proven guilty', but the true test is whether or not you will trust the person....with your wife, your life, or your money!

      adrien.mcguire - 2012-06-07 16:19

      @nkululeko Thanks for your response, healthy debate is good ! You are correct, regarding the judgement. However , for me , that is another technicality, because only half of the corrupt pair has been locked ( albeit for a short time). By definition, corruption has two sides.... a giver and a receiver. So the fact that the cases were seperated and Zuma has not been charged only makes him technically innocent. I suppose my point is, anywhere else in the world he would not have made the running for Presidency, would have resigned etc at the mere sniff of scandal. I dont like the fact that he has so many flaws on top of the unanswered charges. I seriously think that if we want to clean up this country, we do not need someone like him as President.

  • vernon.samuel.7 - 2012-06-07 05:51

    There is a definite pattern emerging under Zuma's \leadership\. 1) Cosatu is clearly becoming as the major force in the alliance. 2) opposition parties are becoming more vocal as they start to smell blood following mass anger at the ruling party. 3) more and more politicians are stealing our money. 4) the administration takes forever to act against crime and criminals. 5) such action only happens after persistent media reporting and \rumours\ and the public baying for blood. 6) even after action is finally taken, the ruling party stays silent and allows rumour and presumption to take centre-stage. Mr Zuma, surely you can also see these patterns? Imagine how easy it will be to make fools of these guys selling these stories to the media, by simply coming out with the truth before everyone else. You make Mac Maharaj look like an idiot because his only job is to say that \you are applying your mind, following due process and will issue a statement when the time is right\. Mr President, there is no time like the present. Do not be surprised that you are viewed as spineless and dithering - because that is what you make yourself out to be.

  • Keith - 2012-06-07 06:07

    I could qualify for the post of Commissioner because I have never been a policeman, but for a few reasons I am sure that I will not be considered. First, I am not a cadre, second, I have not murdered anyone, third, I have not been accused of theft, fourth, I am not open to corruption (I think, although I haven't been tempted with millions).

  • Sizwe - 2012-06-07 06:13

    akusebenze umthetho kwaphela

  • Joe - 2012-06-07 06:37

    Has any of the ANC connected rogues ever resigned when they have been caught out with their fingers in the purse? Or have they all pleaded innocence and had to be sacked?

  • Wayne Klasen - 2012-06-07 06:44

    While our President takes his time to sack Cele , the tax payer is paying Cele exuberant Salary while he sits at home. That is now a wasteful expenditure.

      philas.ntuli - 2012-06-07 07:23

      how much are you paying to SARS?

  • nspaynter - 2012-06-07 06:47

    If it had been a DA member the DA leadership would have reacted immediately and made it public. The ANC has this thing about secrecy. That's not the way a democratic government should be working.

  • Zahir - 2012-06-07 06:51

    Zuma will be thinking about his support base in Kzn before he makes any decision on cele

      Nkululeko - 2012-06-07 08:18

      @Zahir, that is nonsense. Not all people from KZN supports Zuma, so, he gonna make a decision that is good for the country. Klaar.

  • Mtk.the.poet - 2012-06-07 07:06

    Now thatMr Shoot to kill\r\n Cele is out n dusted by our president, I would like to hope that business n car owners are ready for action,coz all over the country criminals were braaing,spinning cars celebrating this victory for them

  • Gogs Lombard - 2012-06-07 07:11

    It will take awhile. Zuma is trying to find a suitable place for Cele's re-deployment. Some cushy job as ambassador somewhere. Remember Cele knows too much.

      Moeketsi - 2012-06-07 09:09

      Gogs, I think YOU know too much

  • Susan - 2012-06-07 07:20

    Zuma is tight liped about just everything, except te right of politicians to have acces to tenders...

  • Larry - 2012-06-07 07:21

    Zuma must fire himself based on the same criteria.

      philas.ntuli - 2012-06-07 07:26

      based on what?? performance? he is better than your mbheki who assured the public that HIV doesnt cause AIDS. sic

      Kent - 2012-06-07 11:44

      @ philas.ntuli. Yes and Zuma showers his AIDS away.

  • swavka - 2012-06-07 07:22

    Zuma pondering on who he can blame for this one.

  • julian.knight.7 - 2012-06-07 07:28

    Blame the ANC,s NEC for putting him there in the firstplace and blame Cele for not saying No when people in the ANC tell him to whom to award tenders!

  • Increase - 2012-06-07 07:41

    Who is the following because no 1 is innocent.

  • qdelange - 2012-06-07 07:56

    Oh south Africa how do I love thee only in this *#$?!@ up country can we have 2 corrupt police. Comissioners one after the other this country and its presidency IS a joke to the rest of the world do you really know what anc means Mr zuma it stands for African national congress but I I think it stands for Another national cockup

      Nkululeko - 2012-06-07 08:41

      Only the whites and their slaves sees that just because they don't want to accept the fact they are not in power in this country anymore, and they will never be. That is why they do all painting and all stupid comments on these social networks, just because they want to discredit and underestimate the black leadership. Why don't they talk about the then police leader Eugene de Kok? Why don't they talk about their father P.W Botha who died with his hand full of blood of innocent black people? Why don't they talk about thier "king" Eugene Tereblanche, who have never see a black man as a human being, but only his own slave to be towed away down on the road with a bakkie? Why don't they talk about all the Boeretjies in the farms who always shoot blacks and say they thought its a dog? They keep on saying black government is f$%^ up the country, what about their APARTHEID goverment, who physically killed innocent black children in Soweto? What about their APARTHEID government who introduced a stupid "pass law" in favour of the whites?I don't see, even, 1 thing that makes whites think they are better than blacks, NOTHING, the only thing I see is anger for power and failling to accept that fact that blacks are in power. If it was not for that time, where blacks used to "over-respect " the whites, this country would have been like the Arab World today (see Libya & Egypt).

  • tricia.sutherland1 - 2012-06-07 09:42

    Let's see if the N24 moderator will remove my posts for the 10th time. I'm on their list of people whose truth is to real to report - they would rather let the racist remarks appear! My heart goes out to the boys in blue who whole heartedly go out each day to serve and protect and these are they types in charge! How can touritsts to SA and citizens of SA trust this country: Jackie Selebi - former National Commissioner and President of Interpol Richard Mdluli - Lieutenant General was the Head of Police Crime Intelligence in SA Bheki Cele - National Commissioner SA Police Ndumiso Jaca - Tshwane Deputy Chief

  • Rob - 2012-06-07 09:53

    Methinks that the governemrnt has become confused between real life and what they watch on tv. The sitcoms that are so popular (SA and US) provide an artificail realirty, just like what we seem to be living in SA. How can I swich off the African Nonsense Circus?

  • busisiwe.duna - 2012-06-07 10:19

    safa saphel'isizwe esimnyama;oh safa isizwe saba ntsundu;anitsheleleni nkokheli zethu zisilamulele kuloludaba*singing*its no longer those days this problem will be sorted not by "inkokheli"but by the people;we are this close to knowing the whole truth bihind all these saggas;his precidency is costing himself more embarassment by not saying a word which means he knows something that we dont... ''...As the saying goes,I refuse to rule from the grave.History will define whether what i did during my political life,until 25September 2008,is worth anything....''-Thabo Mbeki.....and guess what history is starting to rule.

  • sogesh - 2012-06-08 04:01

    No one is greater than justice this one of the examples there's even more coming \r\nLet's wait and see

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