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FPB assesses Zuma painting

2012-05-21 14:17

Johannesburg - The Film and Publication Board (FPB) will decide on Monday whether the painting depicting President Jacob Zuma with his genitals exposed should be classified.

"Our classifiers have been at the gallery already. We are busy compiling a report and we hope to issue a statement later this afternoon," FPB spokesperson Prince Mlimandlela Ndamase said.

The portrait, on display in Johannesburg's Goodman Gallery, was criticised by Justice Minister Jeff Radebe, the Black Management Forum (BMF), and the SA Students' Congress earlier on Monday.

The painting was an insult to the majority of South Africans and "if that is art, I don't know what an insult is," Radebe said at a briefing on the transformation of the justice system.

The BMF described the painting as a "tasteless depiction" of Zuma and an "attack on the dignity and institutional office of the President of the Republic".

The SA Students' Congress said the painting was an attack on the morals of African culture.

The 1.85m-high painting titled "The Spear" is part of artist Brett Murray's "Hail to the Thief II" exhibition.
The portrait has sparked debate about freedom of expression and the right to dignity and privacy.

The African National Congress was set to argue in court on Tuesday that the painting should be removed because it violated Zuma's right to dignity and made a mockery of his office.

Comments
  • Loo - 2012-05-21 14:22

    OMF lol . .whos next ... FBI ?????

      Squeegee - 2012-05-21 14:28

      Farcical. This just gets more and more bizarre. It would have disappeared if he had let it be.

      espanyol.mpumi - 2012-05-21 14:32

      I think the picture would have looked much better with a shower rather than the genitals. .

      david.b.mcfarlane - 2012-05-21 14:37

      This is freaking ridiculous! Do the government have nothing better to do?

      Peter - 2012-05-21 14:39

      Who the hell is FPB. They also want to shine on this limelight...

      Godfrey - 2012-05-21 14:45

      The Zulu king, just leave his (naked) reed-dancers alone.

      Gichumz - 2012-05-21 14:47

      https://www.facebook.com/BrettMurrayForSAPresident

      Squeegee - 2012-05-21 14:51

      The president is missing out on an opportunity. He should put the painting on the back of his business card and use it as advertising for more wives...

      Alan - 2012-05-21 14:55

      I thought all along that the picture was depicting somebody as an Upright Member of Society. WTF - no this has gone to court??? What happens if he has to take the Stand in court???

      revaro.winkler - 2012-05-21 15:00

      no fbu

      Squeegee - 2012-05-21 15:04

      Alan, what if he has to show all to prove its him in the painting?

      njdejager - 2012-05-21 15:07

      KGB maybe? SACP will call them to come to the dictators rescue

      VaMbozha - 2012-05-21 15:17

      they must hire even the Mossad or KGB or Uncle Bob's CIO to interview the artist...i mean just a short interview. And if it were fiction we would ask Jack Bauer to have a talk with the artist at CTU

      Alan - 2012-05-21 15:36

      @Squeegee .. they may be enough witnesses to testify on his behalf. Oear there will be more racism allegations, and more people calling him a dicktator.

      msendi - 2012-05-21 15:42

      Whether it is directed to your worst enemy or not, an insult is an insult. We must not encourage this insult in the name of art because tomorrow we will see a picture of Helen Zille with exposed genitals and people will be singing a different tune. To me an artist is fighting his war using art because he/she only targeted the ANC.

      Mike - 2012-05-21 15:44

      What are the terms of reference for the FPB inspection of the artwork ? Are they mandated (pun intended) to inspect this image for authenticity ? Do they have the power to make recommendations re the removal/censoring/destruction of the artwork ? What will be next on their list of offensive materials be ? All images (including internet) of statues depicting nudity. Is our constitution, written to safeguard our freedom, strong enough to withstand this sort of governmental interference or are we now lurching towards a Communist Chinese type regime ? The twits would have done themselves a big favor if they'd just remained 'above comment'

      Andre - 2012-05-21 16:02

      The WFM -White management Forum (that's me) want's to make a statement. Mr Zuma, you have been calling for your machine gun (awuleth umshini wami)every time you go on stage. Now that you have got it, you're complaining. Do you want it or not?

      Alan - 2012-05-21 16:05

      @Andre - a clear example that the 'PEN IS' mightier than the Sword.

      Alan - 2012-05-21 16:07

      @Mike - I think they will consider the matter 'at length' and with some 'circumspection' before making a 'hard' decision that will 'stand up' in court.

      Squeegee - 2012-05-21 16:10

      Alan, if Zuma wins he will no longer be hanging out at the art gallery.

      Alan - 2012-05-21 16:23

      haha Squeegee - I tried to think of a suitable reply - but it was a flop.

      Shnez - 2012-05-21 16:24

      Regardless of whos painted! The artist should have gotten consent from that individual to portray him/her like that! Thats how it works in the art industry!

      Fussed - 2012-05-21 16:28

      Come on CAPTAIN MORGAM come on in to this, There may be a copyrite issue here aswell Not for persons younger than 21

      frans.visserdsb - 2012-05-21 16:31

      Gee, remember all the jokes, photos, pictures etc. about Bill Clinton and Monica Lewinski? What do you think would have happened to Bill if he'd tried to censor it? Mr Zuma, you cannot be a public figure who has a healthy sex life which only occasionaly involves one of your wives, and not expect to get some criticism for it. And this is art. We would not expect David to sue Michealangelo for depicting him with his willy hanging out?

      Juan - 2012-05-21 16:39

      Preferably the CIA, we need a regime change

      Squeegee - 2012-05-21 17:05

      Alan, they are embarrassed that the presidents shortcomings have been exposed.

  • Poloyatonki - 2012-05-21 14:25

    Zuma chased away the watch dog "Malema", now the rats are all over him. I wonder what is next...

      Squeegee - 2012-05-21 14:28

      Idiots like you will take jujus place.

      Loo - 2012-05-21 14:34

      yeah Malema is a dog .. I agree bro ???!!!!!

      Gichumz - 2012-05-21 14:48

      http://www.facebook.com/BrettMurrayForSAPresident

      Alan - 2012-05-21 14:48

      whaahaa Squeegee!!

      Alan - 2012-05-21 14:51

      Trollyatonki alert!

      Rob - 2012-05-21 14:52

      Ya, Polly. Whats it coming to hey ? We are just starting to live with the daily rapes, murders, theiving, corruption from Lootfreely house, which is of course the house of revelooting and now this ! It takes a painting depicting the spear of the nation in all its glory & painted by a white artist nogal to divide the nation ! Fat boys fall from grace & the models k word rant on twitter all point to bad times indeed. Bloody whites....bad lot ! Yes, I can see how the murders, rapes, thieving & corruption, pale in comparison to this painting by a bloody agent. Worse to follow as it's rumoured that John Travolta intends to visit the Goodman Gallery as well.

      George - 2012-05-21 14:52

      tltltltl...... OMG

      danny.levin.351 - 2012-05-21 15:07

      Poly, watch dog is not a bad definition for Malema. my two Ridgebacks are also watchdogs. they bark loudly all the time and none of it makes sense.To their defense I have to say that they never bite the hands that feed them...

      Alan - 2012-05-21 15:37

      brilliant Rob!

  • Loo - 2012-05-21 14:25

    Murray must be thrilled .. THAT painting is going to sell for MILLIONS I sh*t you not :)

      Gichumz - 2012-05-21 14:48

      https://www.facebook.com/BrettMurrayForSAPresident

      Alan - 2012-05-21 14:52

      yeah - he can sell it as is - he wont even have to dicky it up.

      Msika - 2012-05-21 15:06

      @Loo Lool:)

      joeballito - 2012-05-21 15:31

      Allready been sold for R136k,but now.... much more.

      Alan - 2012-05-21 16:13

      Perhaps the pic may be renamed to Show A Head?

      maseratifittipaldi - 2012-05-21 17:24

      Brilliant, Alan !

  • merkwaardig - 2012-05-21 14:26

    If this is rated R18, what about the top-less damsels dancing for rain at traditional dance-ins?

      Frank - 2012-05-21 15:12

      It should be classified and the only possible way is ANCStupid 18 as for 18 years they haven't moved forward one inch!

  • Morné - 2012-05-21 14:27

    They've got so much time to bother about a painting what about the main concerns of south african public ??? I don't see them running to court about this main problems !!! Small things amuses small minds shame

  • Tgif - 2012-05-21 14:27

    Should the article not read " the completely Racist organization FOR BLACKS ONLY, Black Management forum" ???????????????????????? Grow a brain and apply it sometime an organization that excludes other race groups is by definition RACIST do you idiots not have Law degrees?????????????????

      Gichumz - 2012-05-21 14:48

      https://www.facebook.com/BrettMurrayForSAPresident

      Msika - 2012-05-21 15:08

      @Tgif Should your name not read "Tgim"?????????????

      Morama - 2012-05-21 15:27

      @Gichumz,I can see you are new here...if you have nothing to post,would you please just read other's opinion than to copy and paste one and the same $#it?

  • dave.leverton - 2012-05-21 14:28

    Why does the FPB have jurisdiction over art ? Their scope according to the Act is limited to film, games and publications.

      David - 2012-05-21 14:44

      The old toppies at the FPB must be tired from watching and classifying all those porn movies and magazines..hehehe. This painting should be right up their alley(pun intended)!!

      Craig - 2012-05-21 14:50

      Good point. I think they just wanna earn browny points by going there, stamping their feet, throwing their toys outta the cot and demanding that heads must roll.

      eil33nn - 2012-05-21 15:20

      @Craig, based on all the organisations that spoke out and are "opposed" to the painting are all lapdogs

  • Martin - 2012-05-21 14:31

    hahahahahahahahaha hahaha ahahaa hahaha ahaha haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahaha

  • Loo - 2012-05-21 14:31

    Look .. any penis that satisfies 5 or is it 6 wives including a couple of girlfriends should be more famous than James Bond's penis. Why not paint it ??? Its the right thing to do

      Godfrey - 2012-05-21 15:00

      @loo agree, having fathered 20+ it deserves a (pic.) mention.

      joy.r.botha - 2012-05-21 16:07

      Good one Loo - I had a good chuckle - well then I have a sense of humour

      Alan - 2012-05-21 16:11

      yeah - like I said above - the "PEN IS" mightier than the Sword!"

      Alan - 2012-05-21 16:12

      does the picture Show-a-head?

  • Jonathan - 2012-05-21 14:31

    When they are finished with Zuma's winkie they may have to do the same for all art depicting nudity, what a bunch of Mother Grundies and reminds me of apartheid censorship. I grew up thinking that women had stars not nipples. Bunch of cry babies using every pathetic argument to impose censorship well learned from their previous masters...hypercritical dicks!

      Mike - 2012-05-21 14:44

      It's basically any excuse to deflect from the real problems in this country. I don't think people on the poverty line give a toss about this tossers dick. I would have painted him with a vagina because he's a real ...

      MyThoughtsToo - 2012-05-21 15:32

      You grew up thinking women had stars not nipples....... Where the hell did you grow up - surely you jest!

      Mike - 2012-05-21 17:28

      MyThoughtsToo not too good at understanding the joke Jonathan made about stars and nipples pffffff. You obviously are too young to have read scope magazine.

      John - 2012-05-21 19:46

      Ok. next on the list is the statue of david

  • Deon - 2012-05-21 14:31

    It will probably be rated 2 till 99, cadres to the rescue.

  • melania.nel - 2012-05-21 14:33

    And still no word on the black artist who did the same! Poor Ayanda Mabula. The critics will get to him next! Right...? Sure they will...

      pieterduplessis - 2012-05-21 16:15

      This fight is unfortunately according to racial lines. I also believe it is very valid to look at Governments reaction between the two paintings and that race is main reason for this reaction, BUT also note that Ayanda Mabulu has drawn paintings of Terblance as a pig, those paintings were removed from an art show because it could offend people. Many people would shout rights when it suits them, but our challenge is to shout rights when it does not suit them.

  • Tamaranui - 2012-05-21 14:34

    Bring Malema back so we may finally be Liberated

      Loo - 2012-05-21 14:40

      Ag shush !!! You actually need to be liberated from that small mind of yours.

      Mike - 2012-05-21 14:41

      What has this got to do with the above article?

      eil33nn - 2012-05-21 14:47

      That who can be liberated? JUST for clarity's sake.

      Poloyatonki - 2012-05-21 14:49

      Paul.. Voetsek wena, You are a sick bastard.

      Mike - 2012-05-21 15:00

      Tamaranui...the sound you are hearing if you listen carefully is me playing the world's smallest violin.

      Peter - 2012-05-21 15:24

      @Tamaranui - You play the race card as well as you play the victim card, heres a noddy badge for doing nothing helpful for the democracy. "Intead of working twice as hard to reconcile the past yous stand on your fake pedestals and look down on us." What are you even talking about? Just sounds like a racist full of hatred trying to justify themselves. All that we hear coming from you is that you have no morals as you think a man that impregnates his long time friends daughter has 100x more class and morals than anyone else, i can quote you if you wish. You are the only person not working for reconciliation here

      gregory.jurgens - 2012-05-21 15:51

      Malema most probably had the biggest chuckle of all at this painting. He is probably still giggling .

      eil33nn - 2012-05-21 16:10

      @Peter, don't forget he is a bigot too. ONLY the Zulu's are worth anything...There are other cultures too...

  • SaffaSeun - 2012-05-21 14:36

    Hahaha oh stop being suck a dick! I wish someone would paint me, and then my painting gets international status! LOL! I am sure I will get my status based on proper sizing up of the matter, rather than lack of it..

  • Craig - 2012-05-21 14:40

    Chuckle... Hey idiots... The Gallery is closed. Come back tomorrow

  • Pieter Mulder - 2012-05-21 14:41

    Mockery was set by JB him self. Witch majority will most properly deny to suit them selves like usual.

  • glen.e.huysamer - 2012-05-21 14:41

    This has become a sreech.......whaaaaa!

      glen.e.huysamer - 2012-05-21 14:59

      It seems like Zuma is deploying every part of his crony organs to help save is dignity, To little to late. He looses more face very time the self serving ANC and their Alliance management open their mouths to say or do anything, it is like mud in their face.

  • AdeleFHM - 2012-05-21 14:42

    OMW give it a break, give us some actual news please! I don't see how this is racist at all, but any ways *yawn*

  • Vusi - 2012-05-21 14:43

    Zuma, do the right thing and bring Malema back..he would have dealt with this artist. You lot are slow

      Loo - 2012-05-21 14:46

      Yeah bring Malema .. we need a "ANC Condom" to cover the penis

      Alan - 2012-05-21 14:58

      (Alan2) Too late - the used condom/toilet paper has already been flushed down the loo. Time to move on bud.

      danny.levin.351 - 2012-05-21 15:13

      Threats again Vusi? now now. go play with your knob (kerrie) and if you decide to play with your "spear" be careful you don't stick it in yourself by mistake...

      mooka.pheto - 2012-05-21 15:34

      anyone who can help me draw koos de la rey pink balls? or make an alteration to make way on the statue of paul kruger genitals?

      Vanessa - 2012-05-21 16:44

      What condom? He'll just have a shower.

  • Theunis - 2012-05-21 14:44

    The Man || \/ The Legand

  • vernon.samuel.7 - 2012-05-21 14:46

    Fair enough. But then every art gallery that portrays nude pictures or sculptures will have complaints from religious groups, parent organisations and the like. They will be opening a can of worms that will soon multiply and disperse, making it almost impossible to regulate. All because one man does not like other people's impression of him and wants to stifle public opinion.

      Mike - 2012-05-21 14:48

      Next we'll ban renaissance art because of all the nudity.

      vernon.samuel.7 - 2012-05-21 14:54

      Hell, let's ban breast-feeding in public while we're at it.

  • Joachim - 2012-05-21 14:47

    It looks more like an elephant, why would a penis have eyes? And to think, all that fuss about an elephant picture stuck on some guys crotch, crazy stuff!

  • bmahlax - 2012-05-21 14:48

    Mr Zuma the president should know he is a public figure anythng he does affect him publicly so. he did not show a respect 4 public as wel with women of this country by just keep on marrying uncontrolably yes is his rights but what about de dignity of women. he should by example we hav some chronic deases as hiv/aids he does nt care. non of de presidents of dis country has done what he is doing disgracing our country with their positions as presidents. if he want 2 b a womanizer let him leave de pres position and a king or chief somewhere.

  • Pieter - 2012-05-21 14:50

    Who said it is Zuma? Did the painter say so? No!!! Who said it is a black man? Did the painter say so? No!!! Can you see from the painting that it is a black man? No!!! Why not? Because the main color of the person is yellow, not black. The shadows are black but all people's shadows are black. Shadows do not come in white even for white people. So, why does it offend black people if it 1. cannot positively be identified as Zuma? 2. Cannot positively be defined as a black man?

      Tamaranui - 2012-05-21 15:00

      There is a reason this denomination of Legal tender no longer exists.........It just ain't worth anything.

      Loo - 2012-05-21 15:09

      LOL ... cmon .. we all know its zuma and zumakie .. but good point.. save it for the trial :)

      Christian J Denyschen - 2012-05-21 15:12

      looks more like vavi to me.

      Pieter - 2012-05-21 15:33

      @Tamaranui. So it looks like you can identify that it is either Zuma or a black man. May I ask which part of his anatomy did you use to make the identification?

      gregory.jurgens - 2012-05-21 15:38

      I also think it's Vavi. Perhaps they should measure genitals to put this to rest.

      Pieter - 2012-05-21 15:42

      @siyadyosiba If what you are saying is true, then they must know for certain that it is mr. Zuma. For it to be true he must have posed for the painting because he cannot read the mind of the painter. Is that correct? The fact that he did not object does not make it true that he is the person in the painting.

      siyadyosiba - 2012-05-21 15:53

      @just, in law when a party alleges to you and you do not object, you considered conseding. and in this case they affirmed their concession through saying they have a right to express JZ in whichever way the percieve.

      Pieter - 2012-05-21 16:03

      @siyadyosiba: Thanks , I understand what you are trying to say. But in this case, nobody alleged, therefore there can be no objection or am I missing something? Who alleged? The white people? The black people? The asian people (btw they are closer to yellow than anybody else)

      siyadyosiba - 2012-05-21 16:11

      @just, ANC alleged.

      Pieter - 2012-05-21 16:23

      @siyadyosiba: So, did they ask (or allege) to the painter that this is mr. Zuma? I do not see anything about that in any of the material I have read. It looks like they just assumed it is mr. Zuma as have all other people. There is also nothing that says the painter has to answer even if they alleged as he is not under oath.

  • Nyameko - 2012-05-21 14:50

    No humanbody deserve this kind of Immorality. Hope ths little Brett will get what he deserve for coming up with his bigoted tendency.

      Loo - 2012-05-21 15:10

      Its just a depiction .. no one modelled his penis and painted it.. Its symbolic . .cmon ,, let sanity prevail.

      danny.levin.351 - 2012-05-21 15:23

      Hi Nyameko, the painter indeed got waht he deserved, all R136,000.00 feel better now?

      richard.hipkin - 2012-05-21 15:24

      What is truly amazing is how so many people know what JZ's package looks like!! Surely as a Zulu man he is NOT circumcised? The penis in the painting is circumcised therefore it is NOT his penis... So no one has any right to say this is a painting of JZ with HIS genitals hanging out.. Just saying.

      siyadyosiba - 2012-05-21 15:36

      @just, the conclusion was drawn for his non objection to the allegation by ANC that it is Zuma. They just defended their "right to freedom" of expression and said they have a right to express their opion about JZ. Hope that enlightens your very "in the box" and subjetive thinking if you really do think as comment show contrary.

      Joachim - 2012-05-21 15:57

      So having a penis is immoral? BaHAHAhaha. You are funny, why dont you take god to court for giving men penises then.

      eil33nn - 2012-05-21 16:16

      @siyadyosiba, So silence is an admission of guilt...I did not know that...thank you for educating me. (sarcasm, just another service i offer)

  • Eugene - 2012-05-21 14:52

    I think we should start a facebook group where everyone tries to paint a copy of it ;-)

      Mewik - 2012-05-21 15:05

      It's already on Wikipedia. As are most things in the free world.

  • Carlito - 2012-05-21 14:55

    Bwaahahahaha attack on African morals next they are going to say Father Chrismas must lose weight

      Loo - 2012-05-21 15:10

      Bwahahahahahahaha made my day that LOL

  • Nosiphom - 2012-05-21 14:57

    Using all government (taxpayer's money) to protect the Prez. If the FPB classifies it it simple means it may still be displayed, but only the specified age group may be allowed to view it???

      Loo - 2012-05-21 15:12

      Wait .. theres still about another 100 regulatory bodies to get involved .. you just wait and see mate :). None of them will pass on this ,,, free seminar, free food not even to mention the fact finding missions they can now go on.

      Mewik - 2012-05-21 16:20

      Prawn cocktails in shot glasses!! They LOVE those!! Trips to Germany to interview the buyer, trip to Dubai on the way back to get their opinion on Germans. The list goes on and on and on.

  • Kabelo - 2012-05-21 15:01

    Zuma dnt forget the secrecy of information bill

      Mewik - 2012-05-21 15:24

      No need for it, the majority of this country is too thick to process information given to them anyway. They just have to play the race card whenever something upsets them.

  • revaro.winkler - 2012-05-21 15:04

    all these people thats saying and enjoying zuma being made a mockery is just dump what message is it giving the world we live in south africa disrespecting the president is not a way of life damn these european capitalist just being disrespectful

      Mike - 2012-05-21 15:08

      Oh please you cry baby nobody respects Zuma why should they?

      Mewik - 2012-05-21 15:20

      European Capitalists....LOL. You mean white South Africans I assume? Europeans didn't paint the picture, a South African did. You obviously have no idea what the world already thinks of SA do you? Surprised they let you out from under your rock for long enough to post on News24. While you're out do some research. Have a look at genocidewatch as well, that's why the world has no faith in this country. It's already been written off.

      Sag871218 - 2012-05-21 16:42

      May you be forgiven for your stupidity. it pains me to think you could actually be black,like i am. when i see comments such as yours i wouldn't mind not associating myself with your kind. you have actually made a mockery of many black ppl with this comment. goes for all your other friends who will never take responsibility for their actions n always blame the europeans.

      IcemanGP - 2012-05-21 19:57

      @Sag, have a bells. I'd get you one, but Unfortunately I'm an unemployed white.

  • Michaele - 2012-05-21 15:04

    The assessment = "dick+head"

  • revaro.winkler - 2012-05-21 15:05

    a racist joke is what you call this

  • gregory.jurgens - 2012-05-21 15:05

    They will obviously clasify it. They have no option but to buckle to the whims of a dictator.

      gregory.jurgens - 2012-05-21 15:32

      Thanks Johnny . Obviously a ANC ploy to contort the law to suit themselves. Hopefully they won't succeed, and embarrass themselves further.

  • danny.levin.351 - 2012-05-21 15:05

    Does not anyone of them have more important things to do? besides, the photos is now on THOUSANDS of computers and servers. How on earth are they going to stop it circulating? Not to mention that the painting is now the private porperty of the buyer who is not South African and obviously doesn't gove a rat's-@ss about what Ali baba and his 40 thieves think of HIS painting. he can do with it as he pleases...

      thulani.zondi.7 - 2012-05-21 15:21

      The judgement tommorrow will pave the way for zuma to sue for defamation and degrading. These guy will pay arm and the leg if zuma wins this case. This case will also impact to zapiro cartoon about zuma.

  • Schmee - 2012-05-21 15:07

    LOL maybe it's okay for men to look at tits but heaven forbid that women know what a penis looks like.

  • Phumi - 2012-05-21 15:08

    We as Africans should react the same way as the Arab or Muslim community would if this was the picture of Prophet Mohammed! When it comes to issues of , dignity and culture we should throw the constitution out of the window and be directed by our own subconsciese period!

      Michaele - 2012-05-21 15:21

      How can you compare a bigamist with illegitimate children who is possibly a rapist, to Prophet Mohammed...Just shows one thing .... die liggies brand maar niemand is by die huis nie

      danny.levin.351 - 2012-05-21 15:31

      Wow Phumi, you are saying that Africans know no better way to deal with people expressing things that are not to their liking then by using wanton violence? Here I was thinking that Africans are in the majority nice people and are dtermined to really create a better life for all... I refuse to believe that All "Africans" (as you call black South Africans obviously) are ready to take the example from groups that are know for: Disrespect and victimization of women, including mutilation of their bodies. Oppressing their own people and murdering thousands of them if they see it as needed to maintain their reign of power.denying their citizens even the most basic rights. Surely you and the rest of your "African" brethen intend to be better than this?

      eil33nn - 2012-05-21 15:38

      Are you comparing the Prophet Mohammed to Pres Jacob Zuma? NOW THAT is blasphemy

      mike.bester1 - 2012-05-21 16:59

      Small piepie for a black man,thats all i can say!

  • Mewik - 2012-05-21 15:08

    I'm going to draw a penis and request that they send a team to come and classify it. Ill even make them tea and coffee.

  • Phumi - 2012-05-21 15:10

    We as Africans should react the same way as the Arab or Muslim community would if this was the picture of Prophet Mohammed! When it comes to issues of morality , dignity and culture we should throw the constitution out of the window and be directed by our own subconsience period

      Mewik - 2012-05-21 15:12

      Well the difference is one is a prophet or god, the other is an elected official serving a limited term in office. Try to compare apples to apples next time. PS: your sub conscious is something you aren't aware of. Again apples and apples please.

      Christian J Denyschen - 2012-05-21 15:16

      zuma is no Mohammed!

      vernon.samuel.7 - 2012-05-21 15:27

      Well done Phumi. Turn the argument from a racial one to a religious one :-)

      eil33nn - 2012-05-21 15:41

      Are you comparing the Prophet Mohammed to Pres Jacob Zuma? NOW THAT is blasphemy. Blasphemy is the act of insulting or showing contempt or lack of reverence for a religious deity or the irreverence towards religious or holy persons or things

  • Sigil - 2012-05-21 15:10

    Why didn't they do this to Ayanda Mabulu?

      danny.levin.351 - 2012-05-21 15:44

      Sigil, I had a look at Ayanda's painting. not only it depicts Zoomer as having a Winkie that needs a crutch, but look at the depiction of Tutu... Off course the ANC, Zoomer and the rest of the "Africans" said nothing, what can they do, call a black South African racist?

      Mewik - 2012-05-21 15:58

      Brett Murray should file a charge of discrimination against Zuma and the ANC officials that branded him a racist, once Zuma's court case is thrown out. They had grounds to go to court by saying it offended his dignity, but now that the race card has been played they no longer have a case and Brett can easily argue that he is being discriminated against based on his race and use the lack of charges against Ayanda Mabulu's to support his claims.

  • thulani.zondi.7 - 2012-05-21 15:11

    People here are quick to judge others harshly. How many people here have secrete love affairs while married to your spouses? How many people here are using the service of prostitute to satisfy their sexual appetite? How many people here are still in the closet hiding their sexual orientation, living a lie? At least zuma is honest with us. We know that he is a polygamist. How many men here are not paying for their children maintenance? The statistics are not looking good.

      vernon.samuel.7 - 2012-05-21 15:18

      Of course the difference is that many of those men are not the president of this country. Representing 50 million people on the world stage. Supposedly a beacon of morality and integrity to the people. And, of course, being paid handsomely by the taxpayers.

      gregory.jurgens - 2012-05-21 15:18

      You can't justify deviant behavior no matter how many people do it. The biggest deviants become complacent and get caught, as with Zuma.

      eil33nn - 2012-05-21 15:44

      I can honestly say i have never cheated, never paid for sex, i am very straight and i have no children that need maintenance payments... Does that give me a free pass to pass judgement - I THINK NOT?

      thulani.zondi.7 - 2012-05-21 15:50

      Polygamy is allowed in south africa. The customary marriage is allowed in sa. Our constitution guarantee everyone the right to practice one culture and religion. The zulu traditionalists have a right to co exist with us. We as south african people must have tolerance. Zuma is a zulu traditionalist. he must be allowed to practice his culture without any inteferance whatsoever. We are diverse people of south africa let us tolerate one another.

      eil33nn - 2012-05-21 16:25

      Yes Thulani, the have the right to co exist with us. Polygamy is actually outlawed by our common law. If they want to get married traditionally, i say, good for them. But i am sorry for the wife that has to share her man.

      vernon.samuel.7 - 2012-05-21 18:34

      Fair enough, polygamy is legal. But should JZ not lead by example and with due concern for the citizens. Considering that transport and accomodation for his wives are provided by the government, should he not reason that he is putting undue pressure on the fiscus? Furthermore, he is also known for his extra-marital affairs. How is that justified by culture and tradition? Especially in a country where rape is prevalent, our president is sending out a message to young boys that promiscuity is ok. To me that is irresponsible of him.

  • Msika - 2012-05-21 15:12

    Should perhaps go and add a "spear" on that statue at Church square in pta. Would that be regarded as art or insult?

      Christian J Denyschen - 2012-05-21 15:21

      nope just vandalism.

  • danny.levin.351 - 2012-05-21 15:15

    In the US they still laugh about Bill Clinton and Monika Lewinski. it goes with the territory. if you want to be Prez and F@ck around be prepared to live with the fallout...

      Bless Boswell - 2012-05-21 15:34

      Absolutely!

      Alan - 2012-05-21 15:41

      Whhahaa - what did Allan Boesak and Divine Brown have in common? They both blew their Grant!

  • lebogang.molefo - 2012-05-21 15:16

    Why not assess this painting??? http://www.worldart.co.za/news/article.asp?ID=95

      eil33nn - 2012-05-21 15:45

      Because no in in that painting is acting like a child throwing a tantrum...

      IcemanGP - 2012-05-21 19:42

      Because most people that have negative comments are too blind to see anything else. We are a nation of oppressed sheep.

  • Nelisiwe - 2012-05-21 15:17

    i really dont understand what the president is doing wrong cos other man they cheat on their wives with bomakhwapheni to make matters worse they buy bomahosha.so realy what the big deal cos he is not playing arround with the woman but giving them a stable home and life.

      Bless Boswell - 2012-05-21 15:33

      Not playing around? What about the young woman he had sex with who claimed rape? What about Irvin Khozas daughter who fell pregnant? These happened when he was married to 2 or 3 of his present wives. Sleeping with someone who is not your wife can be construed as adultery in a civilized society. Or are we not a civilized society? The man is promiscuous. Not fit to govern.

      Calamiteez - 2012-05-21 15:49

      LOL, serious. Again derz da factor of respecting ada ppls culture, I seriously think here dis person Murray ridiculed and spit on Zulu kingdom and what dey stand for. Polygamy it's not a sin according to our culture, If Murray envies us so much, y is he not joining us den, nd stop hating!

      Mewik - 2012-05-21 16:25

      People are missing the point, the painting is not directly stating that he's a womaniser and attacking him in his personal capacity. It states he is using that penis to screw the entire nation, in his political capacity.

      eil33nn - 2012-05-21 16:29

      @Calamiteez, Did he say it was Pres Zuma in the picture - NO. Did he say it was a black man - NO. Did he say it was a Zulu man - NO. But if the shoe fits and you feel the need to be offended by a white africans work, be then offended that i drafted finacial statements today... Can you see that the one has nothing to do with the other?

  • johnny.neto - 2012-05-21 15:17

    "The Film and Publications Act, Act No 65 of 1996, as amended, requires all films, games, and publications to be classified by the Film and Publications Board (“FPB”), before they may be distributed (including to sell, hire out or offer or keep for sale or hire." This comes straight off their website. Seems they have no legal jurisdiction over "Art" specifically as it is not covered in terms of the Act.

      nettie.potgieter.5 - 2012-05-21 15:34

      The way things are going know this oaa can be describe as a soapy or drama.

  • nettie.potgieter.5 - 2012-05-21 15:18

    ??????????????????????

  • siyadyosiba - 2012-05-21 15:19

    I hope they find it improper and violating his right to dignity so that the tables turn. We will see if Murray can taste the medicine when the full might of the law is heading for his head.

      gregory.jurgens - 2012-05-21 15:22

      Are you talking about the same laws that don't apply to the Zuma family of rogues.

      neels.swart.7 - 2012-05-21 15:32

      What happened to the law with the arms deal

  • ettienne.hattingh - 2012-05-21 15:20

    This thing is just dragging on and on and on.. Cry me a freaking river. Build a bridge.

  • Loyiso - 2012-05-21 15:22

    Lol! !

  • KeenanMag - 2012-05-21 15:27

    Let's all draw pictures and paint paitings of Jacob Zuma in protest of this action of the ANC, and watch them try to take all our Freedoms of Expression away!

      mkhonza.sabelo1 - 2012-05-21 15:47

      Gud idea Keenan when can we meet al start by painting ur naked machine n publish it 2moro on fb. Give me time n place

      Melusi - 2012-05-21 15:52

      When enjoying whatever freedom as enshrined in the Bill of Rights you do not infringe on other peoples right. You have a right to safe water but when u cant get it you cant forcibly take it from me, no. JZ has rights and morals like anyone else. Use your head