News24

Face-off at Free State University

2011-08-17 22:53

Bloemfontein - Chaos broke out at the University of the Free State's Bloemfontein campus on Wednesday, after about 800 people - believed to be mostly ANCYL members - stormed the main building.

The group, who had been bussed in to the campus, protested against the fact that no political activities by outside groups will be allowed on the campus during the university's SRC elections.

They also demanded that the rector, Professor Jonathan Jansen, be fired. 

Free State chair of Sasco (SA Student Congress) Manyene Lesapo said: "He [Jansen] has burned political structures on campus."

Calling him a "coconut", they bemoaned the fact that they had co-operated with him in the past.

Police intervened when white students and protesters, armed with sticks and stones and singing Kill the boer, faced off over pamphlets that the group had scattered all over the campus.

The white students were stopped from cleaning up the pamphlets strewn in front of the main building.

Free State ANC Youth League chair, Kgotso Morapela, leading the protest, at one stage had to calm a small group of protesters after being interrupted with "Ag shurrup" (Oh shut up), shouted by a student looking on.

Moments before the interruption, Morapela acknowledged the protest was illegal.

Thuggish behaviour

Jansen said the university was worried about "thuggish behaviour" by outside groups invading the campus.

"An urgent interdict has been obtained and any further invasions by outside groups will lead to arrest."

Dean of students Rudi Buys said the election for a student representative council continues.

Buys said lectures were not interrupted by the fracas.

"Everything continues as normal."

The university said police had arrested about 150 people.

Approached for comment, two students said they were not sure what was going on.

"Those people, we do not know them," they said, adding "They do not belong here."

They felt the new SRC election process had been "fine" and "fair".

Another student felt Jansen had done his best to get rid of racism and sort out "political activism".

He said before Jansen arrived there was constant trouble at Kovsies.

“Now these things happen. This is tragic,” he said, adding that he did not know any of the protesters.

 

Comments
  • Lestor - 2011-08-17 23:04

    "The white students were stopped from cleaning up the pamphlets strewn in front of the main building." So its not enough to litter all over the place they have to stop people cleaning up after them?

      Risen Ape - 2011-08-17 23:28

      I can't figure out what the ANCYL is doing on a university campus. It's not as if they're known for their intellectual abilities.

      Gomez - 2011-08-17 23:55

      The ANC must be so proud..They cant stuuuuuudie but they can protessst at least....

      za101 - 2011-08-18 00:07

      these white students should start singing the national anthem

      John Wilderness - 2011-08-18 03:45

      @Rendier - the youtube personality - Obviously you going to blame all of this on anybody who is b;ack in your path. You refuse to notice that there are millions of black people trying to tread a narrow path between allaying white fears and meeting black expectation but of course idiotic remnants of destructive, verwoedian, apartheid supporters like always will just look at one side of things.

      Warslat - 2011-08-18 03:50

      Interesting how News24 doesn't hesitate to mention when people, particularly offenders are white but never mentions colour when referring to blacks. This article is just one of many. Whites are mentioned twice...I don't see the word black even mentioned. "Police intervened when white students and protesters" "The white students were stopped from cleaning up the pamphlets strewn in front of the main building."

      Netherlands - 2011-08-18 04:32

      YEP.... and the actions of the ANCYL, has "BROUGHT THE STUDENTS OF UFS TOGETHER, EVEN CLOSER" "FORTUNATELY NO RACISM WAS DISHED OUT AT THE SAID MEETING" Man.... I seriously get a "WARM FUZZY feeling when I see two POLITICALLY OPPOSING GROUPS "GETTING TOGETHER".... I think ALL those students and SH!T STIRRERS should wear their "SUNNIES" today.... as their FUTURE LOOKS RATHER BRIGHT ... ROFLMAO!!!!

      Met - 2011-08-18 05:26

      Making a contribution in an area for which Africa is well known- littering and destruction !

      daaivark - 2011-08-18 07:17

      Warslat. You need to read more. Your comment is completely inaccurate.

      York Hunt - 2011-08-18 07:53

      @Warslat. I want to echo Warslat's sentiment. White people are quickly identified and vilified by the media. However, when perpetrators are BLACK, particularly with brutal farm murders, their race is NEVER mentioned. BIAS and DISCRIMINATION. Plain and simple! NEWS24 we demand an explanation!

      McDaNife - 2011-08-18 07:55

      What the hell is the ancyl doing at the campus. That is the reason you have so many drop outs yet get these plush jobs.

      York Hunt - 2011-08-18 08:03

      @Daaivark. You're not in a popularity contest are you? Look in the mirror and read my screen name, really fast. Repeat.

      Krush - 2011-08-18 08:22

      @Rendier - been watching your videos for a while. They are completely factual and true. I wish you were able to receive a larger platform so more people could hear you.

      Karin - 2011-08-18 09:17

      @ Warslat - because we have to tippi toe oh so carefully in case we just maybe "offend" any other race exept white!!!!!

      greatgodpan - 2011-08-18 11:44

      @john wilderness....so from your comments i take it you condone shipping in mobs to cause a riot..........are you in anyway affiliated to the nazi party?

      Warslat - 2011-08-18 13:03

      @ Daaivark, Not sure quite what it is but I get the feeling the vast majority are with me on this one. Perhaps it's you who should be doing a little reading. For someone who's so quick to tell others how wrong they are, you very seldomly offer anything further to a discussion...just a simple put down and run away. Really get the feeling you're not nearly as knowledgeable as you think you are.

      The Observer - 2011-08-18 13:20

      daaivark. hehehehehe, you stepped in it big time. K@k comment, I fully agree with Watslat , I have mentioned the same a couple of times as well. Warslat - So true.

      StaalBurgher - 2011-08-18 13:47

      @daaivark, what I don't get is how you don't realise you are condoning people like "manyati" by continuing to try and deny the reasons for the problems we have.

      Gungets Tuft - 2011-08-18 14:10

      @Manyati - make sure that by the time olf Julius Melanoma becomes president that you have a visa and an airfare to come and see me bow. Make sure you know where the light switch is too ....

      Neil - 2011-08-18 14:44

      The quickest way to disperse of protesters is to send a few american pit bull terriers in their direction. Office phoned me one morning because of a few strikers vandalizing the office property and guess what I did. Went home, put the 4 pit bulls on the back of the bakkie and went to the office.. Needless to say they were off the property in less than 30 seconds. Then only did the police intervene. Act like an animal and get treated like one.

      Neil - 2011-08-18 14:45

      Btw, I have actually lost count on the amount of Malema posters I have spat on.

      Neil - 2011-08-18 14:51

      @Manyati: And both my comments were directed at you!

      Wonderboy - 2011-08-18 15:35

      At least a few bus loads of ANCYL supporters can claim that they have now been to university. I hope they will at least be able to spell 'UNIVERSITY'

      Other Justin - 2011-08-18 16:36

      @manyati - Shame, how does it feel to be a sheep, baaaaaa, baaaaaaa.......Eish I laaaaaaaaaaave Juliaaaaaaaaaas...........Shame dude, does it hurt when you have to try and think for yourself instead of having old single brain cell Malema think for you? Your talk is very militant, what are you struggling for or against? Free this, free that, so you can sit on your fat hole instead of bettering yourself like your fellow South Africans at the UFS? I pity you and your friends, because the students at UFS will be living well with a good education and a good job because they took the time to better themselves while you throw stones and wait for Julius "the tendertrepreneur" Malema to become president, you will be sitting in your shack, because you have no interest to better your life.....

  • Macho Mike - 2011-08-17 23:09

    Eish, Malema's Woodwork Puppets are just like Malema himself - violent, disruptive and against any form of democracy.

      Met - 2011-08-18 05:48

      The one in the picture- he still has part of the branch in his hand

      DEVILS SON - 2011-08-18 06:55

      the anc is pro racism

      croix - 2011-08-18 08:38

      @Met - good chirp. ROFLMAO!

      Optimus-Prime - 2011-08-18 11:29

      wow, there are like no under tones of racism in any of these comments, hey?

  • EuropeanAfrican - 2011-08-17 23:11

    What more can you expect from ANCYL members? They are as thick as concrete and have the common sense of peanuts. What an embarrassment they have become. Imagine how they will protest once their beloved leader gets jailed for corruption!

      Bill - 2011-08-18 00:25

      Please don't insult peanuts! lol

      Netherlands - 2011-08-18 04:27

      When I was at Uni, you had to have a Student Card, whyich you had to present when asked... if not, you were kicked off campus. Did the ANCYL have Student Cards? What was their purpose on the Campus, OTHER THAN CAUSING CHAOS?

  • Anton - 2011-08-17 23:16

    ooooooh the ANCYL can be so praaaud of their puppets

  • veld66 - 2011-08-17 23:21

    Just close down the University........enough is enough

      grant9 - 2011-08-18 02:25

      Just close down the ANCYL.....enough is enough

      LBS - 2011-08-18 16:37

      Bring in the Afriform youth league!

  • struth - 2011-08-17 23:23

    ANCYL THUGS = THUGERRY To be expected. They will stop at nothing to destabilise the country and neighbouring states. It is time people to make a stand against these thugs. They arrived and invaded the campus illegally. They had no business there except to cause mayhem. Clearly the ANCYL is at war with the ANC.

      croix - 2011-08-18 08:49

      Just goes to show - if you allow a fat-lipped moron to shout the odds at every occasion, from every possible forum, to his even more moronic and entirely senseless followers, then we get this type of destructive actions. Their credo is: "If we cannot have it, nobody can!" The ANC should have reigned in its war-mongering Brat a looong time ago! But then, behind this chaos - a lot of stealing can be done?

  • Poor White - 2011-08-17 23:26

    It is the closest the ANCYL got to an education. Bet now their CV's read that they attended the UFS. ANCYL has made this country a laugh-a-minute comedy and it does not help having the clowns in government.

      Met - 2011-08-18 05:41

      Now they will all pass the lie detector test when asked if they were REALLY at university

      geewiz - 2011-08-18 12:21

      Brilliantly put, Met!

  • struth - 2011-08-17 23:36

    It is time the coconuts stood up to these thugs. Give them a taste of their own medicine and let the dice fall where it should fall. Provocation in the extreme meets with extreme reaction. Enough is enough!

  • Yoni - 2011-08-17 23:39

    Sounds more like a Vuis-Off...

  • Illuminus - 2011-08-17 23:42

    Multiculturalism at its finest.

  • Charles Kane - 2011-08-17 23:50

    Eeesh! sadly this is the closest ANCYL members will ever come to an education. ANCYL exploits poor and uneducated youth with empty promises - they are vultures and a sad indictment of our democracy. Any black man who calls another black man a "coconut" has not escaped his own personal racial prison, for if you have to resort to black identity as your defense in every argument, you actually have no argument... respect to Biko but times have changed and these rowdy children should be disciplined. Instead they are employed as canon fodder by ruthlessly ambitious political gangsters. I weep for my continent.

      Shadoz - 2011-08-18 13:08

      i think they are calling us coconuts

  • Stephen - 2011-08-18 00:11

    Wow. This really shows the liberal media in a bad light. Black people stood in a public place and sang 'kill the boer', and no where in the article are they referred to as racist blacks. Why is it only when white people do something to black people is it racist, but they can say whatever they want, murder and rape us, but they are never racist? The media is racist...

      Boiling Frog - 2011-08-18 02:01

      One has to wonder, firstly, what they were doing there in the first place as they are an independent organization having nothing to do with the University and why they are meddling in the election for a student representative council. This smacks of pure race baiting (ie. singing of their songs ) and to label Prof Jansen as a coconut is about as baffling as our current dumbed down Education system.

      John Wilderness - 2011-08-18 03:49

      After you long supported the NATS which created this mess you now want to wash your hands of it. Sorry but for decades most white people around the world warned you apartheid supporters of this kind confusion that apartheid rule will eventually culminate in but you did not want to listen. Your bed is made so sleep in it.

      Met - 2011-08-18 05:46

      Wilderness- Did you hit the repeat button? Comments are often removed here while a blogger here, has a name ,when translated, means "kill the boer" That is tolerated?

      Godesha - 2011-08-18 06:57

      @John Wilderness. Stop with the copying and pasting already and think of something else to say. I am getting really bored at reading your same stupid comment over and over.

      Goose - 2011-08-18 08:21

      Blatant provocation and completely racist behaviour by the YL. As you say though, they are portrayed as the poor victims again.

      daaivark - 2011-08-18 08:46

      Oh crap. Use that vacuum on your shoulders.

      AllHoliday - 2011-08-18 09:29

      Spot on Stephen! @John Wilderness, Just get over it - you must be an ANCYL member, now read carefully and PLEASE try to comprehend: APARTHEID IS OVER AND NOT ALL WHITES HAVE SUPPORTED THE NATS. Now hopefully you can read the article with an open mind and see exactly what is happening!! This is racism in the purest form - this so-called protest is just an excuse to start racial conflict. O! and then they can blame the white students - so typicla!

      StaalBurgher - 2011-08-18 13:51

      @John Wilderness - If you are saying the ANC and its Youth League should be allowed to destroy and discriminate all it means is that the underlying reasons for Apartheid are being justified. In the fullness of time we will therefore return to it. You are digging your own grave with such smug vindictiveness.

      Asmal_Kuhn - 2011-08-18 16:49

      John Wilderness, you're a complete blame-shifting idiot. Nobody liked that NATS but it's becoming clearer by the day why they had to keep the animals in a cage.

  • Amy May - 2011-08-18 00:22

    History is repeating itself...

      Mad Hatter - 2011-08-18 08:31

      No , people are just predictable

  • PinkAndProud - 2011-08-18 00:56

    ANCYL = nothing but lower class scum.

      grant9 - 2011-08-18 03:06

      You are giving 'scum' a bad name.

  • Candice - 2011-08-18 01:01

    Let them fight if they want to fight, lets see where thet get to. Us the coconutS are studying overseas and we will come back and run the country once they have realised that nationalisation does not work and that corruption does not pay. LONG LIVE THE COCONUTS

      Mike-O - 2011-08-18 06:08

      And this pinky will support you all the way.

      radarblip - 2011-08-18 06:39

      and so will this honky:)

      Lab-Rat - 2011-08-18 08:55

      And so will this soutie.

      DEVILS SON - 2011-08-18 13:47

      and so will this ballbag

  • IntuiSlaya - 2011-08-18 01:09

    You gotta feel for the ANCYL Members, being on a university campus, they must have felt so intimidated and useless that all they could think of doing was revert to 'survival mode' and protest. Just imagine their thoughts, 'Ah, what are we protesting now?', 'Dunno, just toyi-toyi and move your mouth to appear as we know what we are saying'!!!

  • braveinternetguy - 2011-08-18 01:19

    The ANCYL should perhaps consider picking fights with someone their own size, lest they be snotklapped to oblivion...

  • deemer - 2011-08-18 01:25

    itz a political world out there why not have politics during student life

      grant9 - 2011-08-18 04:55

      I would have thought that the answer was obvious. Universities are supposed to be places of learning - if studdents want to get involved in politics, let them do it off campus.

      Smaal - 2011-08-18 07:49

      ..... why not, because by African standards it entails having a lot of babies for “The Struggle” instead of actually studying and making something of yourself. The last thing this country needs is corrupt thieving students playing politics, throwing trash all over the place, burning things, breaking things and intimidating decent people..... oh wait....

      deemer - 2011-08-18 08:27

      u dnt knw watz goin on internally...they are makin up an image but the internal structures have not changed AT ALL.we witness it day in day out

      Grant - 2011-08-18 08:49

      Jansen got rid of political parties in the SRC elections to put a stop to certain parties trashing the campus after elections cause they did not win. He did the right thing by banning all political party backing on campus, students were being attacked by small mobs associated with said certain parties. That never made the news, did anyone hear of the female student who were threatened with rape and death cause of these isolated mobs? No. Jansen is the best thing for UFS, and he has the best interests of UFS in mind all the time, even if it means no political influence on campus.

  • deemer - 2011-08-18 01:42

    the best universities in the country have politics on campus,what is so special about this one...yes the illegal strike was not necessary.

      deemer - 2011-08-18 08:53

      check the university standings n u wil c wer it lies and yes political structures r present in ol those above it...doesnt make sense 2me

      Robbie - 2011-08-18 13:51

      It's because taxpayer pay for students to be at varsity through subsidies. We taxpayers demand that students study and get their degrees before they embark on political careers!

      derikbench - 2011-08-18 15:38

      Those Universities are the best despite campus politics, not because of it. I was at RAU / UJ, and SASCO students messed up that campus quite bad. It is the brilliant lecturers, res students and other decent, educated students that ensures that the UJ doesn't go under completely. Politics add nothing to our nation but corruption, tenderpreneurs and racial polarising.

  • Chillibean - 2011-08-18 03:17

    .......... when there's chaos and corruption at the top - there's normally violence at the bottom.

  • Clinton - 2011-08-18 04:33

    Guys, time to face facts things are not going to get better, and one day like me you are going to get tired of complaining about it and just leave SA all together. I'm in NZ now, it's way more expensive but you have a far better quality of life here, and you earn a lot more than back home. There is crime, it's everywhere of course but there is hardly any "evil crime" that SA is so famous for. So c'mon guys do it for your children, make plans for a better life... elsewhere

      Spaffy - 2011-08-18 08:47

      Not everyone has the means to just up and leave, and personally if I could, I wouldn't. It's my country too.

      Gibbonater - 2011-08-18 09:33

      The problem is once all the whites leave the blacks will follow wanting wek because we are hungry. They love to be around whites becuase we provide.

  • Lewsi - 2011-08-18 05:06

    I suppose its the first time anyone from the ANCYL has ever set foot on a varsity campus......'F'for woodwork and all....

  • Trevor - 2011-08-18 05:19

    ANCYL=Nazi's

      Mad Hatter - 2011-08-18 08:21

      National Socialists

  • ChrisW - 2011-08-18 05:23

    Yhe ANCYL behaviour and disrespect for the law, which the ANC drive thru parliament, will help the eventual disintegration of the ANC alliance ....hopefully

  • michael.ferraris - 2011-08-18 05:26

    so glad that I transferred to Rhodes University!

  • Trevor - 2011-08-18 05:33

    ANCYL=Zoo

  • Trevor - 2011-08-18 05:42

    17 years later, all these kids were around 2-3 years old, born into the "New SA" but, now it's Blacks attacking Whites...all the signs of SA=Zimbabwe..ANCYL has NO respect for anything but then again they are SA future and they have a great leader to aspire to, JULIUS MALEMA, biggest IDIOT/Racist in the Village!

  • Mike-O - 2011-08-18 05:54

    @wilderness - I hope you are such a frequent commentator on Australian websites regarding the Aboriginals and the asylum seekers. Stop calling every white person a NAT supporter, you have no idea what is going on in SA. You tell people they have created the mess and have washed their hands off it, but you are the one in Australia.

  • munchkin.ross - 2011-08-18 05:58

    Sue the ancl for vandalism.

  • hollochris - 2011-08-18 06:00

    the feral masses strike again...

  • Chris - 2011-08-18 06:09

    Is the ANCYL taking guidance from the ZANU-PF's 'Brown-Shirts'?

  • majordad.007 - 2011-08-18 06:23

    What did campus security do at the entrance. STOP or we will film you. CCTV is an excellent opportunity to get pics of undesireables. Circulate them on a National Database, instill the three strikes and then terminate all health possibilities on NHI, remove any opportunity on the Housing List, remove all benefits of being an ordered member of society. The Campus must have a one push-button connection to the local SAPF for immediate intervention to remove unwanted

  • Roy - 2011-08-18 06:26

    These rubbish black protesters should all have chased off the campus and should be prevented from ever going to the Free State University again. People like them and like those on strike all over the country,are only there to cause destruction to a system.

  • dotty_01 - 2011-08-18 06:49

    no wonder whites are racist.

      nick - 2011-08-18 06:58

      yes and loving it these animals should be shot 99% of them bussed in doesn't even attend any university they still struggling to pass woodwork they were promised a banana and yellow t-shirt to go for a ride

  • Cristina - 2011-08-18 06:59

    I mean really!!!...is the ANCYL on drugs or what??!!!!!!!! bunch of freaking idoits, the whole lot of them!!!!!!!!! my bloods boiling with such behaviour!!!! DARN!!!

      wv - 2011-08-18 12:43

      This is built into their race

  • ChumScrubber - 2011-08-18 07:00

    I'm sick to death of these destructive useless people. Somethings gonna explode soon, a human can only tolerate so much.

  • Jamesons - 2011-08-18 07:14

    I think the United nations need to take hold of this country because our goverment cant.

  • Carl - 2011-08-18 07:16

    Do they do woodwork there now?

  • Jamesons - 2011-08-18 07:16

    I am starting to realize why apartheid was created.

  • ChumScrubber - 2011-08-18 07:17

    This sort of thing seems to be the only contribution black people are making to "their" country, nothing positive, all negative. Littering, promoting racial intolerance, striking, stealing the government coffers dry, burning, breaking etc etc. Its all they seem to be doing. Any examples of black people trying to make our country a better place (besides words)?

  • bensid - 2011-08-18 07:23

    Typical example of the modern day ANC youth ,there actions are fueled by malema's toxic tongue .Julius Malema deserves all the credit .

  • so mouse - 2011-08-18 07:23

    ANCYL, idiots. They only got big mouths cause they know they are protected, but as a matter of fact, they are cowards, cause they only come in groups. And it's obvious that this protest was sponsered and planned by ANCYL. Most of the protesters are proberbly workless, uneducated people collected from the street and paid a small fee just to go there. ANCYL = DARK AFRICA

  • Monjaro - 2011-08-18 07:26

    So which one of these groups was racist this time around? Or was it racist of the white students to pick up the litter that the ANCYL had strewn all over the university campus... I'm confused! In fact, using the term ANCYL and university in the same sentence appears to be an oxymoron to me...

  • Jamesons - 2011-08-18 07:29

    Make Cape town ungovernable, Make Universities ungovernable, make the ANC ungovernable, hec - lets make the coutry ungovernable and nationalize twitter. thats what the ANCYL are doing.

  • Jou Ma - 2011-08-18 07:32

    The only way they'll ever get into varsity grounds. It made them feel a lot "cleverer" Rise of the Planet of the Apes!

  • Sabsi - 2011-08-18 07:33

    See, that's what Malema is teaching them... Poor South Africa!

  • Iggie - 2011-08-18 07:35

    Are JM's thugs busy again!!!! brainless lot, idiots!!!!!!!!!!!!!

      Ockert - 2011-08-18 14:38

      Jacob Zumas Gestapo and "Hitler" youth.

  • jjacgilbert - 2011-08-18 07:38

    Is this an "African thing" only asking.

      daaivark - 2011-08-18 08:52

      You and your offensive remarks, so clumsily disguised with your cowardly "kust asking" disclaimer. Voice an opinion and actually own up to it.

      daaivark - 2011-08-18 08:52

      sorry, "just".

      Ockert - 2011-08-18 14:40

      @daaivark - why do you feel offended ?

  • Smaal - 2011-08-18 07:45

    I’ve been in and seen a few situations like this. Strange that when the police step in it is to stop people from interfering with their brothers. These people are left to run wild and do what they do best and descent people are made the villains. Funny how these “people” are allowed to intimidate, destroy and basically “take over” and institution like this to politicize it for obvious reasons. Making everyone who is NOT part of “them” feel unwelcome, afraid and even drive them out while demanding free branded condoms in all dorm rooms. These same aholes then cry foul when it is suggested that and independent Afrikaans institution be build that is based on specific morals, ethics and believe standards. Then again it makes sense when you know that government needs standards to remain low if not being made lower.

  • Ian - 2011-08-18 07:46

    I just have one question for the ancyl, while the students on campus were going about there business of studying, attending lectures etc, what were you clowns doing? Clearly you were not at school, college or any other form of higher education institution, so what exactly is your purpose, how do you intend to contribute to our society and economy? Please answer me or are you just going to call me racist? What a sorry bunch of oxygen wasters you are